Re: Denial of free speech @ games?
 

Despite all of these measures, some offensive signs were smuggled through security. Therefore, I think it may be time for Snyder to consider instituting random strip-searches of fans to put a stop to the offensive practice of smuggling signs into the stadium.

The P.G. County police know more about this type of thing than Snyder's rent-a-cops, so he might want to consider enlisting their help in this effort.

From a facilities point-of-view, the sign police could just set up rows of sanitized porta-potties near the turnstiles. This would provide a private, clean, and safe environment the fans who are strip-searched.

I'm not suggesting that any significant number of fans should be strip-searched. That would be ridiculous! Of course, no premium seat ticket-holders should be searched - they are the most loyal fans and they pay too much for their seats to be delayed at the stadium entrances. And only one percent or less of the people in the cheap seats should be asked to step into a porta-potty to be strip-searched. Fewer still should be asked to drop their drawers and bend over for a more thorough search for possible offensive signage hidden on their bodies.

This should provide a safer and more enjoyable stadium experience for the vast majority of fans who are not detained by police and strip-searched prior the game.

Re: Denial of free speech @ games?
 

Some felt the crackdown on sign display. many of which were not offensive in any way, is one way to discourage the polarization of discontent being exbibited by fans against management.

While many of the signs had nothing to do with disconted fans, the idea is in furtherence of times to come in the event the team does not improve, and the chorus gets louder with more and more people becoming involved. It could be considered as a way of staving off future situations they deem problematic. Therefore the simplest way to deal with something that might become even more embarassing in the future is to just ban all signs.

The Little Emporer has no clothes but he still runs a tight ship. Imagine the thought of how far we could proceed in an effort to attach signs or decals to Metro Buses, that would truly be interesting to witness if it were ever permissable.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;617183]Despite all of these measures, some offensive signs were smuggled through security. Therefore, I think it may be time for Snyder to consider instituting random strip-searches of fans to put a stop to the offensive practice of smuggling signs into the stadium.

The P.G. County police know more about this type of thing than Snyder's rent-a-cops, so he might want to consider enlisting their help in this effort.

From a facilities point-of-view, the sign police could just set up rows of sanitized porta-potties near the turnstiles. This would provide a private, clean, and safe environment the fans who are strip-searched.

I'm not suggesting that any significant number of fans should be strip-searched. That would be ridiculous! [B]Of course, no premium seat ticket-holders should be searched - they are the most loyal fans and they pay too much for their seats to be delayed at the stadium entrances.[/B] And only one percent or less of the people in the cheap seats would be asked to step into a porta-potty to be strip-searched. Fewer still would be asked to drop their drawers and bend over for a more thorough search for possible offensive signage hidden on their bodies.

This should provide a safer and more enjoyable stadium experience for the vast majority of fans who are not detained by police and strip-searched prior the game.[/quote]

Wait a minute. So you're saying that those who do not pay for premium seating are not as loyal of fans as the ones who do? Dan, Vinny, is that you? First of all, if I was going to a Redskins game and the cops wanted to strip search me for no reason, then they had better obtain a warrant. Implementing strip searches is against one's rights without reasonable cause.

Re: Denial of free speech @ games?
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;617183]Despite all of these measures, some offensive signs were smuggled through security. Therefore,[B][I] I think it may be time for Snyder to consider instituting random strip-searches of fans to put a stop to the offensive practice of smuggling signs into the stadium.[/I][/B]
The P.G. County police know more about this type of thing than Snyder's rent-a-cops, so he might want to consider enlisting their help in this effort.

From a facilities point-of-view, the sign police could just set up rows of sanitized porta-potties near the turnstiles. This would provide a private, clean, and safe environment the fans who are strip-searched.

I'm not suggesting that any significant number of fans should be strip-searched. That would be ridiculous! Of course, no premium seat ticket-holders should be searched - they are the most loyal fans and they pay too much for their seats to be delayed at the stadium entrances. And only one percent or less of the people in the cheap seats should be asked to step into a porta-potty to be strip-searched. Fewer still should be asked to drop their drawers and bend over for a more thorough search for possible offensive signage hidden on their bodies.

This should provide a safer and more enjoyable stadium experience for the vast majority of fans who are not detained by police and strip-searched prior the game.[/quote]

Strip search fans? Are you kidding??

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[quote=skinsguy;617193]Wait a minute. So you're saying that those who do not pay for premium seating are not as loyal of fans as the ones who do? Dan, Vinny, is that you? First of all, if I was going to a Redskins game and the cops wanted to strip search me for no reason, then they had better obtain a warrant. Implementing strip searches is against one's rights without reasonable cause.[/quote]

I have a hard time believing he wasn't being sarcastic.

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[quote=Longtimefan;617198]I have a hard time believing he wasn't being sarcastic.[/quote]

I really, really, hope so! ;)

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[quote=skinsguy;617153]I don't know about that. If I tune into a game and I know that the home team is 2-4 and I am seeing that the stadium is not even half filled, then that says to me that there is something really wrong with the team. And, honestly, I really doubt that football fans of other teams are going to care if Snyder is the problem or if it's Portis. They are going to see that fans must be so fed up with the team that they don't bother even showing up to the stadium. I mean anyways, if one watches football on a regular basis, they would have to be living under a rock to not know that Daniel Snyder is not a very well liked owner amongst the Redskins fans and across the league.[/quote]

But, you're stuck with the bill dude! No matter what! Season ticket holders pay for the whole season before the season starts. And they paid to see this crap? I mean, what are they going to do? Stay home and eat the cost of their tickets? Eat the thousands of dollars that they spent on them? Or.............get some frustration out! Head on up to that stadium and let everyone know how pissed off you are! You might as well. I mean, you're stuck with the tickets. You might as well have fun with it.

Re: Denial of free speech @ games?
 

[quote=skinsguy;617193]Wait a minute. So you're saying that those who do not pay for premium seating are not as loyal of fans as the ones who do? Dan, Vinny, is that you? First of all, if I was going to a Redskins game and the cops wanted to strip search me for no reason, then they had better obtain a warrant. Implementing strip searches is against one's rights without reasonable cause.[/quote]

Loyalty = $$$

I hadn't thought of the need for warrants. Well, maybe Snyder could get a judge to provide stacks of all-purpose warrants with blank names that could be filled in by the sign police just before they drag fans to porta-potties to be strip-searched.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;617066]Do any of you here on this board know of any legal verbiage on your season ticket contracts that prohibit ticket holders from wearing, or displaying, materials that are anti-Redskins or inflammatory?[/quote]

I just read the back of my ticket to the Chiefs game... and really there was nothing on there that you can take as prohibiting ticket holders from wearing anything at all... I dont know if something different is in the season tickets contract, but nothing on this one..

Re: Denial of free speech @ games?
 

[quote=skinsguy;617193]Wait a minute. So you're saying that those who do not pay for premium seating are not as loyal of fans as the ones who do? Dan, Vinny, is that you? First of all, if I was going to a Redskins game and the cops wanted to strip search me for no reason, then they had better obtain a warrant. Implementing strip searches is against one's rights without reasonable cause.[/quote]

Reasonable cause huh? Well, lets say that they "pat you down" and feel something like poster board under your shirt. You tell them its just a back brace. And then.................well, that sounds like reasonable cause to me. :)

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[quote=Miller101;617200]But, you're stuck with the bill dude! No matter what! Season ticket holders pay for the whole season before the season starts. And they paid to see this crap? I mean, what are they going to do? Stay home and eat the cost of their tickets? Eat the thousands of dollars that they spent on them? Or.............get some frustration out! Head on up to that stadium and let everyone know how pissed off you are! You might as well. I mean, you're stuck with the tickets. You might as well have fun with it.[/quote]

Plus he enjoys the luxary of collecting interest on our money when we have to pay for out tickets in Febuary, and don't sit in a seat until September.

I'm never going to be strip-searched in any stadium, at any time.

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GD you guys are little uptight huh? He was just making a joke. Maybe a cavity search would do you some good?

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[quote=Dlyne8r;617196]Strip search fans? Are you kidding??[/quote]

Yes, strip-search them! But it wouldn't be as bad as it sounds. It would only be done in the most respectful manner, the sign police would wear latex gloves, and they would try to have female sign-police officers available to strip-search female fans whenever possible.

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I don't feel but so bad for season ticket holder because it not like we just got bad this year its been 10 now. You keep shelling out the money and now you finally decide to bitch about the team.

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[quote=cpayne5;617079]It probably has some sort of catch all that says they can throw you out for any reason they determine. By using the ticket to enter the stadium, you agree to those terms.[/quote]



I went through my season ticket material and there is nothing at all about signs or anything close. There is a Fan Code of Conduct but nothing mentioned relating to what has been done by the Skins Mgmt.