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wolfeskins 11-20-2009 03:47 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;627926]If we're going to trade someone why not Fred Davis? If he can produce he could conceivably get us more than Cooley what with him being 4 years younger. And Davis hasn't established himself with the organization or community the way Cooley has.

Would prefer that we just keep them both though[/quote]


bingo!! i agree 100%. keep both but if the need to trade one should ever arise, then trade davis instead of cooley.

The Goat 11-20-2009 04:36 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
Props to F. Davis for coming through in fine fashion. I think he only gets better moving forward and especially more explosive.

...looking ahead the HC/OC HAVE to find a way to utilize 2 TE sets, otherwise we are literally wasting a large portion of our talent on offense.

GoSkins! 11-20-2009 04:57 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=GTripp0012;628000]I think having two effective TEs will greatly speed up the improvement on the line personally. Unless there was a high second rounder floating around out there, I'd just keep them both.[/quote]

Why give up a guy we got, and presumably hit on, with a second round pick for a second round pick?

If we could trade him for a legit tackle/guard and a second round pick, then it would make sense. Otherwise, we would be trading him for a chance to get someone with similar ability and less experience.

mlmdub130 11-20-2009 05:12 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=GoSkins!;628023][B]Why give up a guy we got[/B], and presumably hit on, with a second round pick for a second round pick?

If we could trade him for a legit tackle/guard and a second round pick, then it would make sense. Otherwise, [B]we would be trading him for a chance[/B] to get someone with similar ability and less experience.[/quote]

exactly!

we always say build from the draft now everyone wants to ship off one of the only guys who has panned out over the past 10 years, and from what davis is showing he looks legit too, nothing like have a double te set you can throw out of

itvnetop 11-20-2009 05:48 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
Which reminds me... if Davis continues to produce throughout the season, can we get a BFD avatar?! I've been waiting to display one since he was drafted!

SmootSmack 11-20-2009 06:00 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=itvnetop;628036]Which reminds me... if Davis continues to produce throughout the season, can we get a BFD avatar?! I've been waiting to display one since he was drafted![/quote]

Where have you been the last couple of weeks. Did you go on vacation or something?

ethat001 11-20-2009 06:01 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
WHY would you trade Davis? Come on - a good YOUNG TE on a cheap rookie contract? Clearly you keep Davis and trade Cooley (the more expensive version). Even if Davis isn't as good, having another draft pick on the o-line would be worth more to the team than keeping one of these TE's on the bench for 50% of the game.

I've said it before - I'm a big fan of trading older veterans in their prime (ONLY if we get good value):
1) Chris Cooley
2) Andre Carter
3) Santana Moss/Randel El -- but we wouldn't get good value

All the above are in their prime, would cost a lot and may be able to demand good draft picks (probably not 1st rounder, but 2nd rounders?). Then draft O-line (LT/RT,C), QB, OLB and RB if any good ones are available. maybe CB and MLB too.

itvnetop 11-20-2009 06:24 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;628039]Where have you been the last couple of weeks. Did you go on vacation or something?[/quote]

Hehe... naw, just work and busy weekends with music. I will be here on Cowboys' game day, though!

Longtimefan 11-20-2009 06:40 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
Nice to see Fred taking advantage of his opportunity. I always felt he could get the job done, but playing behind a pro-bowler he just didn't get a lot of chances. Will be interesting to see how he's utilized once Cooley returns.

Eknox 11-20-2009 08:40 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=ethat001;628040]WHY would you trade Davis? Come on - a good YOUNG TE on a cheap rookie contract? Clearly you keep Davis and trade Cooley (the more expensive version). Even if Davis isn't as good, having another draft pick on the o-line would be worth more to the team than keeping one of these TE's on the bench for 50% of the game.

I've said it before - I'm a big fan of trading older veterans in their prime (ONLY if we get good value):
1) Chris Cooley
2) Andre Carter
3) Santana Moss/Randel El -- but we wouldn't get good value

All the above are in their prime, would cost a lot and may be able to demand good draft picks (probably not 1st rounder, but 2nd rounders?). Then draft O-line (LT/RT,C), QB, OLB and RB if any good ones are available. maybe CB and MLB too.[/quote]
I hate to say it, but you make a good point. I don't know about being able to get a draft picks that matches the production of the players, and I don't see anyone trading for ARE..

rbanerjee23 11-20-2009 09:32 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
if you're really his little brother, tell him to hang on to the ball, he's got a ton of talent and if he just hangs on to the ball.

mlmdub130 11-20-2009 09:36 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;628084]if you're really his little brother, tell him to hang on to the ball, he's got a ton of talent and if he just hangs on to the ball.[/quote]

and tell him next time he hears "tight end reverse" in a huddle to call a timeout immediatly

Zerohero 11-20-2009 10:04 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
[quote=hooskins;627891]Im in the minority, but I say we ship off Cooley, beside he is the only Redskin that has any trade value. And we rebuild from there on.

I am expecting a bunch of angry responds lol.[/quote]

Not here, i like Cooley but it's not like he makes us much better. If we can get some value why not.

FRPLG 11-20-2009 10:12 PM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
No way on trading him unless it's a blow away offer...and thats true or any player. I some had a nice 1st rounder they could ship us we'd have to consider it. But I'd rather keep the quality offensive players we have since we don't have many.

skins89moss 11-21-2009 02:28 AM

Re: lil bro (#86FD) showing his worth...
 
Why trade a player you drafted in the 3rd round and gave up a pick to draft him. The Redskins developed him and now you think its time to trade him after we finally have a probowl TE. Who was our last pro bowl TE before Cooley? They dont grow on trees so why not hve 1 pro Bowler in Cooley and a up and coming good player to go with him in Davis. This is responding to Hooskins about trading Cooley.


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