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All of this bluster for an eventual H-back. Amazing.

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Lotus...he's going to be a QB...and a good one at that. It's absurd to think that he isn't going to at least get a shot.

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^ Oh, I believe he'll get a shot at QB. Then, in 2-3 years, it will become clear to him and his team that the best way that he can contribute is to switch to H-back.

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Who is Tebow better than right now out of the 32 starting QB's in the league?

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;680334]Who is Tebow better than right now out of the 32 starting QB's in the league?[/quote]

Probably no one as of today. But that's not the right question to ask right now, since everyone knows he needs a year or two to sit and learn before he can step in and start in this league. The question you ask will be best answered in one-two years.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;680334]Who is Tebow better than right now out of the 32 starting QB's in the league?[/quote]

Jamarcus Russell, Jake Delhomme, Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, maybe Trent Edwards?

I think Tebow would play better than any of these guys.

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Tebow is not better than any starting NFL QB right now. He doesn't even have the basic fundamentals of footwork down and he's not up to speed with reading NFL defenses.

This Tebow man crush continues to amaze me.

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[quote=Mattyk;680339]Tebow is not better than any starting NFL QB right now. He doesn't even have the basic fundamentals of footwork down and he's not up to speed with reading NFL defenses.

This Tebow man crush continues to amaze me.[/quote]

What are you saying then? Rookie quarterbacks have started many times for teams, especially recently. After a full offseason workout and training camps are you suggesting they don't get themselves ready for the speed of NFL defenses? Forget the fundamentals and footwork he's learning, the second he starts in the NFL he'll go back to his college instincts and pass the ball better than all those guys I mentioned.

I would rather see Tebow start the next 2 years than have Marc Bulger or Jake Delhomme on my team.

I do not think we should draft Tebow, but I'm just saying everyone is forgetting that this guy will be a "decent" NFL quarterback and nothing more. That's why he's out of the first round discussion because in the first round you try to strike the next Peyton Manning

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[quote=IrMitchell;680336]Jamarcus Russell, Jake Delhomme, Marc Bulger, Matt Hasselbeck, maybe Trent Edwards?

I think Tebow would play better than any of these guys.[/quote]

I don't follow Oakland, Cleveland, St. Louis, Seattle or Buffalo. I do follow the Skins and i believe if we are going to turn this franchise around soon unless we trade down for more picks we can't use a valuable draft pick on an experiment under our current circumstances.

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[quote=IrMitchell;680342]What are you saying then? Rookie quarterbacks have started many times for teams, especially recently. After a full offseason workout and training camps are you suggesting they don't get themselves ready for the speed of NFL defenses? Forget the fundamentals and footwork he's learning, the second he starts in the NFL he'll go back to his college instincts and pass the ball better than all those guys I mentioned.

I would rather see Tebow start the next 2 years than have Marc Bulger or Jake Delhomme on my team.

I do not think we should draft Tebow, but I'm just saying everyone is forgetting that this guy will be a "decent" NFL quarterback and nothing more. That's why he's out of the first round discussion because in the first round you try to strike the next Peyton Manning[/quote]

The question was who is Tebow better than [U]right now[/U].

If you plugged him into an NFL game right now, Tebow would simply be overmatched on a variety of levels. There's no way he's better than any starting QB or even backup right now, and he probably won't be until he's sat on a bench for a year or so.

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[quote=Mattyk;680339]Tebow is not better than any starting NFL QB right now. He doesn't even have the basic fundamentals of footwork down and he's not up to speed with reading NFL defenses.

[B]This Tebow man crush continues to amaze me.[/quote][/B]

[B]I've never seen someone with so little NFL potential get so much hype. Simply amazing. [/B]

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[quote=Mattyk;680346]The question was who is Tebow better than [U]right now[/U].

If you plugged him into an NFL game right now, Tebow would simply be overmatched on a variety of levels. There's no way he's better than any starting QB or even backup right now, and he probably won't be until he's sat on a bench for a year or so.[/quote]

Yes but right now is irrelevant. If any team drafted him he'd go through a full training camp so why ask that?
I don't think that Dez Bryant would be better than ARE [U]right now.[/U] Why? because he needs to atleast go through training camp to get his routes down. Man I don't think Russell Okung is better than any LT/RT we have [U]right now[/U]..

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[quote=skinsfan69;680348][/B]

[B]I've never seen someone with so little NFL potential get so much hype. Simply amazing. [/B][/quote]

You don't see one of the greatest college football players of all times game not translate to the pros though do you? Well maybe that's wrong, but still he deserves every second of it I think.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;680344]I don't follow Oakland, Cleveland, St. Louis, Seattle or Buffalo. I do follow the Skins and i believe if we are going to turn this franchise around soon unless we trade down for more picks we can't use a valuable draft pick on an experiment under our current circumstances.[/quote]

No doubt about it, the Redskins should not pick him. Why? Because he's reached his full potential and to change that would need to be an experiment like you said.
The more and more we discuss QB's and the #4 pick. The more I feel like we should just get Okung and have something to talk about next year when Campbell does the same thing for the 3rd year.

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The thing I find funny about the Tebow hype is if you listen to the scouts or so called experts, opinions on him vary greatly. There are some genuine concerns about his mechanics, ability to read defenses, ability to play in a pro style offense, etc. that shouldn't be brushed aside. Yet his supporters just seem to ignore all that and think his determination is going to trump all of his negatives.

Tebow isn't the first playing coming into the NFL with great intangibles. Those things can only take you so far though.

I'm really on the fence with the guy, I can't say either way where I see him in 5 years. Those that have their minds made up good or bad, are those that I tend to tune out.