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[quote=wilsowilso;716207]Devin Thomas is one of the least fluid skill players I have ever seen in my life.

His route running is atrocious and he has about a fifteen inch vertical.

He has some amazing physical gifts, but he just isn't an NFL caliber football player. IMO.

Also I'm fairly convinced his football IQ is borderline short bus level.[/quote]


Tell us how you really feel about the guy! :)

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Kelly is done. I just hate the fact the 38 yr old grey beard Galloway may be our slot

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Does anyone think Vonnie Holliday will fit into the defensive line equation? I haven't seen his name mentioned in the thread anywhere and I know Shanahan likes him. I guess the questions would be do you release a younger player in his favor, or will coaches feel at his age there's a place for him in the rotation. Could also depend on just how many D/L they decide to keep.

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[quote=Longtimefan;716253]Does anyone think Vonnie Holliday will fit into the defensive line equation? I haven't seen his name mentioned in the thread anywhere and I know Shanahan likes him. I guess the questions would be do you release a younger player in his favor, or will coaches feel at his age there's a place for him in the rotation. Could also depend on just how many D/L they decide to keep.[/quote]

Shanny has spoken well of VH. I would have to think he has a decent chance to make the final 53 for depth.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;694708][U][B]Offense[/B][/U]
[B]QB [/B]- [COLOR=navy]McNabb [/COLOR]- [COLOR=navy]Grossman [/COLOR]- Brennan
[B]RB [/B]- Portis - [COLOR=navy]Johnson [/COLOR]- [COLOR=navy]Parker[/COLOR]
[B]FB [/B]- Sellers - [COLOR=darkred]Morris[/COLOR]

[B]WR [/B]- Moss - Thomas - Kelly - Mitchell - [COLOR=darkred]Austin[/COLOR]
[B]TE [/B]- Cooley - Davis - [COLOR=navy]Ryan [/COLOR]

[B]LT [/B]- [COLOR=darkred]T.[/COLOR] [COLOR=darkred]Williams [/COLOR]- S. Heyer
[B]LG [/B]- Dockery - E. Williams/Rinehart
[B]C [/B]- Rabach - [COLOR=darkred]Cook[/COLOR]
[B]RG [/B]- BMW - [COLOR=navy]Lichtensteiger[/COLOR]
[B]RT [/B]- [COLOR=navy]Hicks [/COLOR]- [COLOR=darkred]Capers[/COLOR]

[I]Total: 26[/I]

[U][B]Defense[/B][/U]
[B]DE [/B]- Haynesworth - [COLOR=blue][COLOR=navy]Petterson [/COLOR]
[/COLOR][B]NT [/B]- [COLOR=navy]Kemo [/COLOR]-[COLOR=blue] [COLOR=navy]A. Bryant[/COLOR][/COLOR] - [COLOR=navy]H. Green[/COLOR]
[B]DE [/B]- [COLOR=navy]Carrikier [/COLOR]- Golston

[B]ROLB [/B]- Orakpo - Alexander
[B]LOLB [/B]- Wilson - Jarmon
[B]ILB [/B]- Fletcher - Blades - Henson
[B]ILB [/B]- McIntosh - [COLOR=darkred]Riley [/COLOR]

[B]CB [/B]- Hall - Barnes - Tryon
[B]CB [/B]- Rogers - [COLOR=navy]Buchanan [/COLOR]
[B]FS [/B]- Landry - Moore
[B]SS [/B]- Doughty - Horton

[I]Total: 25[/I]

[U][B]Special Teams[/B][/U]
[B]K - [/B]Gano
[B]P [/B]- [COLOR=navy]Bidwell[/COLOR]
[B]LS [/B]- [COLOR=navy]Warm Body[/COLOR]

[B]KR [/B]- [COLOR=darkred]Austin[/COLOR]
[B]PR [/B]- [COLOR=navy]Buchanan [/COLOR]

[I]Total: 3[/I]

[I][B]Total Overall:[/B][/I] 54
Yes I realize theres 54 but I can't decide who to cut. Candidates to me include Henson, Bryant - Peterson - or Green, and Tryon

[COLOR=darkred]Red [/COLOR]- Indicates Rookie
[COLOR=navy]Blue [/COLOR][I]- [/I]Free Agent Aquisition[/quote]

You know, I'm just not sure that Warm Body will make it. He seems a lukewarm candidate, but if there is no other long snapper on the roster I guess he would stay.

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Thomas steps it up. RI

Posted at 1:41 PM ET, 08/ 1/2010
Thomas makes a move in the WR battle

With Malcolm Kelly sidelined Sunday morning because of a sore hamstring, Devin Thomas made a move in the wide receiver race at Redskins Park.

Thomas had his second strong practice in as many days. His nifty catch on a go route, against tight coverage, was the highlight of 11-on-11 drills. Thomas, who may be battling Kelly for a spot on the opening 53-man roster, demonstrated improved concentration overall.

Coach Mike Shanahan noticed.

"Nice catch he had, especially on that big go route," Shanahan said. "He's had a couple good days."

Thomas and Kelly began camp near the bottom of the wideout depth chart. They have a lot of work to do if they hope to earn a first-team job, and Thomas has shown some encouraging signs recently. "Every time they come on the field, they're being evaluated," Shanahan said. "He's had a couple good days in a row. He's made big plays. That's what we're trying to see."

Joey Galloway and Roydell Williams opened camp listed at the co-starters at the X receiver, or split end, position. Santana Moss, still the Redskins' top wideout after all these years, is the starter at the Z position, of flanker.

But Galloway is 38 and has a total of 20 catches the last two seasons. Roydell Williams has been out of football the past two seasons. The Redskins wideout corp hasn't impressed.

"He's got to compete everyday and he's got to win a position," Shanahan said of Thomas. "He's got to be better than the guys that are in front of him consistently. That's how you win a position.

"The last couple days, he's done just that. He went out there, he's made some plays. It's a combination of everything. Just not the passing game but the running game, too. Just going out there, everything."

Kelly sat out after aggravating his hamstring injury. "He's much improved from the last couple days," Shanahan said.

Shanahan also confirmed that Albert Haynesworth was sidelined because of his lingering knee soreness. The all-pro defensive lineman did not take the conditioning test he must pass before Shanahan will permit him to practice. He is expected to be tested for a third time Monday morning before practice.

"There's not change from yesterday," Shanahan said. "Still sore. Irritated. Getting treated. Working."

When Shanahan reviews the running back depth chart, he sees three veterans who are almost interchangeable, although Clinton Portis has received most of the first-team reps. Larry Johnson and Willie Parker definitely are in the mix for prominent roles with the team.

Further down the running back depth chart, rookie Keiland Williams is fourth and second-year player Ryan Torain is fifth. Torain has impressed the past two days.

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Any word on Vincent Jackson? Can we somehow get him to D.C?

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;716279]Thomas steps it up. RI

Posted at 1:41 PM ET, 08/ 1/2010
Thomas makes a move in the WR battle

With Malcolm Kelly sidelined Sunday morning because of a sore hamstring, Devin Thomas made a move in the wide receiver race at Redskins Park.

Thomas had his second strong practice in as many days. His nifty catch on a go route, against tight coverage, was the highlight of 11-on-11 drills. Thomas, who may be battling Kelly for a spot on the opening 53-man roster, demonstrated improved concentration overall.

Coach Mike Shanahan noticed.

"Nice catch he had, especially on that big go route," Shanahan said. "He's had a couple good days."

Thomas and Kelly began camp near the bottom of the wideout depth chart. They have a lot of work to do if they hope to earn a first-team job, and Thomas has shown some encouraging signs recently. "Every time they come on the field, they're being evaluated," Shanahan said. "He's had a couple good days in a row. He's made big plays. That's what we're trying to see."

Joey Galloway and Roydell Williams opened camp listed at the co-starters at the X receiver, or split end, position. Santana Moss, still the Redskins' top wideout after all these years, is the starter at the Z position, of flanker.

But Galloway is 38 and has a total of 20 catches the last two seasons. Roydell Williams has been out of football the past two seasons. The Redskins wideout corp hasn't impressed.

"He's got to compete everyday and he's got to win a position," Shanahan said of Thomas. "He's got to be better than the guys that are in front of him consistently. That's how you win a position.

"The last couple days, he's done just that. He went out there, he's made some plays. It's a combination of everything. Just not the passing game but the running game, too. Just going out there, everything."

Kelly sat out after aggravating his hamstring injury. "He's much improved from the last couple days," Shanahan said.

Shanahan also confirmed that Albert Haynesworth was sidelined because of his lingering knee soreness. The all-pro defensive lineman did not take the conditioning test he must pass before Shanahan will permit him to practice. He is expected to be tested for a third time Monday morning before practice.

"There's not change from yesterday," Shanahan said. "Still sore. Irritated. Getting treated. Working."

When Shanahan reviews the running back depth chart, he sees three veterans who are almost interchangeable, although Clinton Portis has received most of the first-team reps. Larry Johnson and Willie Parker definitely are in the mix for prominent roles with the team.

Further down the running back depth chart, rookie Keiland Williams is fourth and second-year player Ryan Torain is fifth. Torain has impressed the past two days.[/quote]

That's encouraging news relative to Thomas. He must do more than just show flashes, he needs to stay healthy and consistent.

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Offense
QB - McNabb - Grossman - Brennan
RB - Portis - Johnson - Parker
FB - Sellers - Morris

WR - Moss - Thomas - Galloway - Kelly - Austin
TE - Cooley - Davis - Vickers

LT - T. Williams - S. Heyer
LG - Dockery - E. Williams
C - Rabach - Cook
RG - Hicks - Rinehart
RT - Brown - Capers

Total: 25

Defense
DE - Haynesworth - Jarmon
NT - Kemo - A. Bryant - Daniels
DE - Carrikier - Golston

ROLB - Orakpo - Wilson
LOLB - Alexander - Carter - Henson
ILB - Fletcher - Blades
ILB - McIntosh - Riley

CB - Hall - Barnes - Tryon
CB - Rogers - Buchanan
FS - Landry - Moore
SS - Doughty - Horton

Total: 25

Special Teams
K - Gano
P - Bidwell
LS - Nick Sundberg

KR - Austin
PR - Buchanan

Total: 3

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Redskins Depth Chart

Offense
Position First Team Second Team Third Team Fourth Team
WR D. Thomas M. Kelly M. Furrey
LT T. Williams W. Montgomery
LG D. Dockery E. Williams
C C. Rabach W. Montgomery
RG A. Hicks C. Rinehart
RT J. Brown S. Capers
TE C. Cooley F. Davis L. Vickers
WR S. Moss T. Austin
QB D. McNabb R. Grossman
FB M. Sellers D. Morris
RB C. Portis L. Johnson B. Westbrook

Defense
Position First Team Second Team Third Team Fourth Team
LDE A. Carriker P. Daniels J. Jarmon
NT M. Kemoeatu H. Green
RDE A. Haynesworth K. Golston
LOLB L. Alexander A. Carter
LILB L. Fletcher H.B. Blades
RILB R. McIntosh P. Riley
ROLB B. Orakpo C. Wilson
RCB C. Rogers J. Tryon
SS L. Landry C. Horton
FS K. Moore R. Doughty
LCB D. Hall P. Buchanon K. Barnes

Special Teams
Position First Team Second Team Third Team Fourth Team
PK G. Gano
P J. Bidwell
KO G. Gano
H J. Bidwell
PR T. Austin P. Buchanon
KOR D. Thomas T. Austin
PC N. Sundberg
KC N. Sundberg

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I would keep the bigger Galloway over Austin. We need tall bodies at WR. Austin has that great speedburst, but is undersized. Galloway is 38, but can contribute, not sure Austin can. Special teams maybe, but if we lose Kelly, we need to keep a tall WR.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;716318][B]I would keep the bigger Galloway over Austin. We need tall bodies at WR. Austin has that great speedburst, but is undersized[/B]. Galloway is 38, but can contribute, not sure Austin can. Special teams maybe, but if we lose Kelly, we need to keep a tall WR.[/quote]

Well I guess you need to rethink that they are both 5'11". Other than Shay, Kelly and Thomas the rest of the WR core is 6' or less. Nice to have one big go to target that is reliable, but I don't but much weight on this issue.

I put more weight on having a talented group that understands the offense, can run a precise route and make the catch consistently.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;716318]I would keep the bigger Galloway over Austin. We need tall bodies at WR. Austin has that great speedburst, but is undersized. Galloway is 38, but can contribute, not sure Austin can. Special teams maybe, but if we lose Kelly, we need to keep a tall WR.[/quote]
they're both 5'11"

Galloway contribs for a year or two and doesn't return.. Austin not really known for speed either.. maybe you got fed some bad info or are mixing players up

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[quote=tryfuhl;716375]they're both 5'11"

Galloway contribs for a year or two and doesn't return.. Austin not really known for speed either.. maybe you got fed some bad info or are mixing players up[/quote]

I think if you really want to consider a reciever tall you have to look for guys that are 6'4 and up. Thats the type of height that will really give a guy a true advantage on jump balls 6'1/6'2 seems to be average these days.

Still, did you mix up Terrance Austin with Armstrong because Austin ran a 4.38 40?
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[quote=skinsfaninok;716281]Any word on Vincent Jackson? Can we somehow get him to D.C?[/quote]

Found this this morning on redskins.com from the practice report for today.

"— POSTED Aug. 2, 2010 8:37am
NEWS: Hello everyone, just talked to my bro and he told me the coaching staff and the front office had a meeting late last night under the radar and are discussing moving on without Kelly and are exploring the possibility of a trade very soon which involves draft picks and a player....My bro told me that they would not use names in the meeting and just referred to the player as the "targeted guy"......We all know it is VJ, but until they booted out all the PR and office staff im sure they wont name names as not to get the media going........Mcnabb was present at the down low meeting but when my bro asked him if he was there to discuss the VJ trade rumors he smiled and told my bro.....No comment, they just needed his imput on some current players and he is not worried about guys not in a Redskins jersey......Thanks again bro, enjoy ya day off!"