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[quote=JoeRedskin;706629]Sorry, this is a true Snyderrato. Shanahan and Allen came in and said - "Here's how we're playing the game. I am the coach, he's the GM and [I]we[/I] decide what's best for the team. The inmates are no longer running the asylum. Get on board with that [I]now[/I]." Who's to say Haynesworth wouldn't be a kick ass NT if he tried? Guess we will never know.

As for trading AH, F that. AH wanted to pull a Cutler on Shanahan and Shanny said "Nope."

I got nooooo problems with how Shanahan has handled it. Coaches rule, Players drool.[/quote]

I'm sorry but I am not OK on how Shanahan has handled this. Unless, he pulls a great trade (i.e.: AH for Mankins, or AH for Jamal Brown, etc., etc.) nothing is going to help us this season. Shit, at least a 3rd rounder could have gotten us a player in this year's draft.

If this is not resolved, at least the team can fine AH and try to get some of their money back. Otherwise, even if his fat ass sits on a bench, that does nothing positive for the team.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;706632]i thought reid and JLC were just making all those rumors up. i guess all those reports were true after all...[/quote]

"Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. "

This is a bad dream, hopefully...

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[ridiculous trade talk]AH for CJ[/ridiculous trade talk]

Not real surprised and still not real worried. This is the nail in AH's very large coffin in my eyes which means nothing to anyone. If Mako can get healthy, we have talent at DE and can still put a very good defense on the field.

The only person this really hurts is AH. The Redskins will continue to move forward and he will cave before they do. He is not going anywhere without very good compensation and will slowly pay back some of that cash in fines until he realizes it or pays it all back at once to get out of town quicker.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

Shanny tried like hell to trade him before and during the draft. Can't blame him for wanting fair value.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

We were 4-12 with AH last year in a 4-3, can we do worse without him in a 3-4??

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

From Darnell Docketts twitter:

That's why I tell yall I'm nothing like these dudes, for a 100millon my ass will play 4-3, 3-4 5-9, 4-8, and still whip ass! #PAYME 42 minutes ago via UberTwitter

LOL. Maybe AH will read the reactions and get his head on right...

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

Trade him to the Rams and let him enjoy a 3-13 season.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

IF this is how this is going to go, I hope Snyder gives him the Coles treatment. Tell him he's gonna buy him a flat screen and his ass can sit at home and watch the games. If its going to be like this, let him sit out the season, and get fined out the ying yang. Unless we get value for him, there's no point to trade him. Without a cap right now, there is no savings for cutting him. Good, I hope he sits out, and losses all sorts of money. I had no problems with him skipping the voluntary workouts, training on his own. He showed up the first day, informed the team, and ya know what, I may not agree with it, but I had no problems with it.... but now, he's just a pure f--- up. Seriously, I can't believe that....

If we're not gonna get value for him, then forget it. There is no point in trading him. I'd rather have him sit out the season than trade him to some random team for a third round pick.

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[quote=Mattyk;706637]Shanny tried like hell to trade him before and during the draft. Can't blame him for wanting fair value.[/quote]

Agreed, I just feel that if he was cleaning up the mess from the previous FO, a better value would have been getting a draft pick for this year's draft, than anything we can get now at this point. I am hoping that the team finds a trade partner, and they can get either a player or fair value in draft picks...but I just don't see that happening.


[quote=Mattyk;706638]We were 4-12 with AH last year in a 4-3, can we do worse without him in a 3-4??[/quote]

Well last year's defense with a better offense would be better.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;706614]I just hate this whole thing. Seriously, think of the worst thing that could possibly happen to you and then ask yourself if you'd take forty million dollars for it...99% of us would at least CONSIDER it. BUT THIS IS HIS JOB.

[B]He became the highest paid defensive player in history and then wants to jump ship because things are different. What a bitch.[/B][/quote]
This

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[quote=Lotus;706641]Trade him to the Rams and let him enjoy a 3-13 season.[/quote]

Or the Bills or the Chiefs.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

[quote=JoeRedskin;706629]Sorry, this is a true Snyderrato. Shanahan and Allen came in and said - "Here's how we're playing the game. I am the coach, he's the GM and [I]we[/I] decide what's best for the team. The inmates are no longer running the asylum. Get on board with that [I]now[/I]." Who's to say Haynesworth wouldn't be a kick ass NT if he tried? Guess we will never know.

As for trading AH, F that. AH wanted to pull a Cutler on Shanahan and Shanny said "Nope."

I got nooooo problems with how Shanahan has handled it. Coaches rule, Players drool.[/quote]


Shanny doesn't lose Joe, Snyder does, so SHanny can do whatever he wants. This is Snyder's wakeup call and he alone will eat the money. It is a hard lesson for him, but the man deserves it to be honest. In the end Shanny does need to trade AH, even if just for a 1-3 round draft pick(s). Like the housing market, you can't expect to get a fair deal with such an overpriced asset. Snyder was a total dumbass for paying the man $100 million. Not even Lawrence Taylor in his prime was worth that kind of money!!!

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No New news here.. We all saw this coming. I hope we trade this loser, IDK what we can get for him but atleast this problem will be out of our locker room. I'm about to burn my AH jersey as we speak.

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[quote=Ruhskins;706644]Agreed, I just feel that if he was cleaning up the mess from the previous FO, a better value would have been getting a draft pick for this year's draft, than anything we can get now at this point. I am hoping that the team finds a trade partner, and they can get either a player or fair value in draft picks...but I just don't see that happening.




Well last year's defense with a better offense would be better.[/quote]

Simple point is no player is above the team. F big Al. Either get on board or get the F out.

Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;706647]Shanny doesn't lose Joe, Snyder does. This is Snyder's wakeup call and he alone will eat the money. It is a hard lesson for him, but the man deserves it to be honest. In the end Shanny does need to trade AH, even if just for a 1-3 round draft pick(s). Like the housing market, you can't expect to get a fair deal with such an overpriced asset. Snyder was a total dumbass for paying the man $100 million. Not even Lawrence Taylor in his prime was worth that kind of money!!![/quote]

Shanny will lose if the defense sucks and the team sucks, because his move to the 3-4 will be brought into question.


Anyway, anybody know what the monetary fines are for players that hold out from mandatory camp and the regular season? Hell, at least we would get some money back.