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[quote=GMScud;806048]Interesting.....

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-loses-bin-laden-bounce-romney-on-the-move-among-gop-contenders/2011/06/06/AGT5wiKH_print.html"]Obama loses bin Laden bounce; Romney on the move among GOP contenders - The Washington Post[/URL][/quote]Great minds think alike, I was just going to post a similar article.

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Whoever can get the "independent" vote wins...Romney has a huge Obamacare problem. He came in third place in the primaries in 2008 and his record on job creation is a disaster. He will be Gore 2.0 candidate.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806082]It is you who must observe and not infer....my "furious" two line post was really tongue in check to show all politicans make mistakes, and all I assumed was that you voted for Obama, based on the content of your posts. And if you respond honestly, I'll bet I'm correct in my assumption.

And just to be fair, I'll throw this out, I voted for McCain in 2008.[/quote]


You've mentioned me being "liberal left" in other posts before. Also, you can tell by the content of my posts? You mean like these?

(dissing Obama)
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/42464-1500-still-missing-100s-dead-floods-2.html#post805847[/url]

(dissing Obama)
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/42514-war-drugs-cant-won-according-global-3.html#post805737[/url]

(smashing on two democratic politicians)
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/debating-with-the-enemy/42552-hes-a-weiner.html#post805945[/url]


So what part of that content has you thinking that I'm a Obama supporter? Is it the other posts where I rail on the GOP? So you totally ignore the posts slamming the other side and focus on my slamming the GOP. Turning the blind eye just for sake of waving your elephant/donkey flag around to go along with the crowd isn't my thing.

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There is nothing wrong with supporting and voting for Obama. Don't mind SS33 for he is a dedicated GOP minion and a bashful Obama hater. Given the choice between voting for Obama and sacrificing his first child he would choose the latter.

Lord Obama will rise to lead us once more.

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[quote=NC_Skins;806108]So you totally ignore the posts slamming the other side and focus on my slamming the GOP. Turning the blind eye just for sake of waving your elephant/donkey flag around to go along with the crowd isn't my thing.[/quote]Par for the course with you, a quote/link here, a quote/link there that doesn't address the issue or prove/refute anything, then some name-calling or letting everyone know how much wiser you are than anyone with an opposing view.

But that being said, what I infer from your posts is that you believe Obama's positions aren't left enough. AND....you still didn't answer the question. Take a cue from saden, catch a deep breath, and admit you voted for Obama. It's OK.

And of course my friend saden is as eloquent as always. What he fails to mention is, politcally, he and I essentially are opposite sides of the same coin (in a football sense, we're normally in agreement). A while back there was a thread where you answered political questions and were graphed in one of four quadrants (don't have time to go back to find the thread). He and I were in the exact same spot on opposite sides of the graph.

And again for clarification, I'm an un-bashful Obama policy hater. :food-smil

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806083]Great minds think alike, I was just going to post a similar article.[/quote]

I wouldn't pay too much attention to any of these polls - good or bad. If the economy starts to tick up a little, you'll see his numbers jump up again. So it's really just a snapshot of where people are at that particular moment.

Secondly, I think when the debates really get rolling we'll see how the public feels about Mitt Romney. Bin laden bounce or not, Obama has the advantage on foreign policy and national security.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806139][B]Par for the course with you, a quote/link here, a quote/link there that doesn't address the issue or prove/refute anything, then some name-calling or letting everyone know how much wiser you are than anyone with an opposing view. [/B]
But that being said, what I infer from your posts is that you believe Obama's positions aren't left enough. AND....you still didn't answer the question. Take a cue from saden, catch a deep breath, and admit you voted for Obama. It's OK.

And of course my friend saden is as eloquent as always. What he fails to mention is, politcally, he and I essentially are opposite sides of the same coin (in a football sense, we're normally in agreement). A while back there was a thread where you answered political questions and were graphed in one of four quadrants (don't have time to go back to find the thread). He and I were in the exact same spot on opposite sides of the graph.

And again for clarification, I'm an un-bashful Obama policy hater. :food-smil[/quote]

yeah thats a trend

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806004]Good thread, great summary. Don't discount the woman president factor. There's a large segment of the population who aren't involved in politics and vote emotionally. I believe there are a great number of women across the politcal spectrum who will vote to have a woman president.

If Bachmann does what you suggest, which she will if she gets close to the GOP nomination, a Bachmann / Huntsman ticket could be quite formidable.[/quote]

I have to tell you if Bachman can stay away from shit she doesn't know, she'll do well. I don't think for a second that she's presidential material, but few people are at the beginning of this crazy ass process. She just hired Ed Rollins to run her campaign. He's a hack and old school, but he'll keep her focused and the gaffes to a minimum.

If she makes some noise in Iowa, watch out Mittens.

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Something about Huntsman just doesn't sit right with me. Can't put my finger on it. Nothing negative or anything like that, I just want to see how he handles himself on the big stage.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806139]But that being said, what I infer from your posts is that you believe Obama's positions aren't left enough. AND....you still didn't answer the question. Take a cue from saden, catch a deep breath, and admit you voted for Obama. It's OK.[/quote]

I've not inferred his policies aren't left enough. I just said I find it ironic that Republicans are bashing Obama, when his policies are nearly identical to that of Bush.

Obama hasn't come through on any of his main campaign promises, and I'll never vote for him based off of his performance. I certainly would never vote for those idiots from the GOP either. Like I said, how people can still vote for the GOP with the state our economy is in proves that people will believe anything.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;806139]Par for the course with you, a quote/link here, a quote/link there that doesn't address the issue or prove/refute anything, then some name-calling or letting everyone know how much wiser you are than anyone with an opposing view. [/quote]

[quote=Chico23231;806141]yeah thats a trend[/quote]

Excuse me? How or where have I inferred that I'm wiser than everybody else?

As opposed to linking "facts" that aren't facts nor support anything that a person is arguing?

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[quote=12thMan;806144]Something about Huntsman just doesn't sit right with me. Can't put my finger on it. Nothing negative or anything like that, I just want to see how he handles himself on the big stage.[/quote]

The only thing I can think of is his "yeah, global warming is real but I won't and can't do anything about it" stance. He has all the political and business background, good looks, and "moderation" in his arsenal. Formidable!

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[quote=12thMan;806140]I wouldn't pay too much attention to any of these polls - good or bad. If the economy starts to tick up a little, you'll see his numbers jump up again. So it's really just a snapshot of where people are at that particular moment. [/quote]agree, way too early.

[quote]Secondly, I think when the debates really get rolling we'll see how the public feels about Mitt Romney. Bin laden bounce or not, [B]Obama has the advantage on foreign policy and national security.[/B][/quote]Not sure about an advantage, but at worst case FP & NS are even with the GOP (not necessarily in real experience, but public perception), which is a huge positive for Obama.

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[quote=NC_Skins;806149]Excuse me?[B] How or where have I inferred that I'm wiser than everybody else?[/B][/quote]

I am not going to hunt down all the posts, but lets just say a common thread through many of your "opinion" posts is that people with opinions/values different from yours just don't get "it" and are simply sheep for the slaughter.

Oh wait... I don't have to go hunting at all:

[quote=NC_Skins;806148]Obama hasn't come through on any of his main campaign promises, and I'll never vote for him based off of his performance. I certainly would never vote for those idiots from the GOP either. [B]Like I said, how people can still vote for the GOP with the state our economy is in proves that people will believe anything.[/B][/quote]

You, of course, are so much smarter, wiser and clevererer than [I]everyone[/I] who votes for the GOP, or who sides with the owners, etc., etc.

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[quote=NC_Skins;806148]Obama hasn't come through on any of his main campaign promises, and [B]I'll never vote for him based off of his performance.[/B] I certainly would never vote for those idiots from the GOP either. Like I said, how people can still vote for the GOP with the state our economy is in proves that people will believe anything.[/quote]Maybe I'm just missing your answer, but the bolded point sounds like you won't vote for him in 2012, since he had no prior Presidential performance in 2008 and you're using a future tense. You don't mention if you voted for Obama in 2008. Just wanting to clearly understand your response.