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[quote=30gut;923976]Yeah, only because he lacks versatility which is very important for an OL in my eyes.
I see him as an average center but he can only play center.
He's not passable at OG even for a short stint and most of our other interior OL can play center: Chester, Lichtensteiger, LeRib, Gettis[/quote]

That's an interesting take on Monty and probably not a bad idea.

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surprised Lee didnt make the cut.

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These guys have the Skins O-line ranked 10th in the league, i thought the O-line was not real good last year but i love lists!!!! Eli was sacked the most but got the ring.

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 OFFENSIVE LINES[/url]

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;924835]These guys have the Skins O-line ranked 10th in the league, i thought the O-line was not real good last year but i love lists!!!! Eli was sacked the most but got the ring.

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 OFFENSIVE LINES[/url][/quote]

10th in [I][B]run blocking[/B][/I] (the ZBS certainly helps the OL as a unit play better then the indiviual lineman)
15th in pass protection

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Let's hope Jamaal Brown holds up this year. He's due to have a good year. After trading a 3rd round pick for him two years ago, he's due for a solid season.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;924835]These guys have the Skins O-line ranked 10th in the league, i thought the O-line was not real good last year but i love lists!!!! Eli was sacked the most but got the ring.

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2011 OFFENSIVE LINES[/url][/quote]

Really interesting numbers. At the end they break down success per location of run play, and percentage of runs at each spot. Interesting numbers throughout, especially that we were #2 at rushing up the middle. Pretty good stuff.

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Undrafted rookie CB Chase Minnifield (knee) will reportedly open training camp on the active/PUP list.

Although Minnifield underwent microfracture surgery over the winter, this still comes as a bit of surprise in that the former Virginia star shined while participating fully in June minicamp. The Redskins are building in roster flexibility with the option to leave Minnifield on reserve/PUP for the first six games. RB Tristan Davis (undisclosed) is also expected to open camp on the PUP list.

[url]https://twitter.com/ESPNRadio980/status/225353675579719681[/url]

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7526/chase-minnifield]Chase Minnifield - Washington Redskins - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;925203]Undrafted rookie CB Chase Minnifield (knee) will reportedly open training camp on the active/PUP list.

Although Minnifield underwent microfracture surgery over the winter, this still comes as a bit of surprise in that the former Virginia star shined while participating fully in June minicamp. The Redskins are building in roster flexibility with the option to leave Minnifield on reserve/PUP for the first six games. RB Tristan Davis (undisclosed) is also expected to open camp on the PUP list.

[url]https://twitter.com/ESPNRadio980/status/225353675579719681[/url]

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7526/chase-minnifield]Chase Minnifield - Washington Redskins - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url][/quote]

You know, by the sound of it, it sounds like the Redskins are pretty much saying that Minnifield will make the roster, if they want to treat him by putting him on the PUP list.

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Is Minnifield being moved to OL?

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[quote=SmootSmack;925216]Is Minnifield being moved to OL?[/quote]

Lol Shanny likes em small, give him a shot!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;924944]Really interesting numbers. At the end they break down success per location of run play, and percentage of runs at each spot. Interesting numbers throughout, especially that we were #2 at rushing up the middle. Pretty good stuff.[/quote]

my question with those numbers, if we were so great in the middle, why were our percentages so low going to it? Draws, pitch and cuts? We have zero power game in the middle...I think the numbers prop up the oline nicely, but not buying it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;925216]Is Minnifield being moved to OL?[/quote]

Ha, clicked on the wrong thread, meant to be in the "Open Competitions" thread.

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[quote=Chico23231;925227]my question with those numbers, if we were so great in the middle, why were our percentages so low going to it? Draws, pitch and cuts? We have zero power game in the middle...I think the numbers prop up the oline nicely, but not buying it.[/quote]

It looks like we tried to spread the ball to the ends more than most teams. I am sure others can look at the numbers and align them to the reality, but overall, I think our line was better than most fans perception of it, and that given another year of familiarity, they will not be seen as our top weakness. (Safeties probably will claim that)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;925213]You know, by the sound of it, it sounds like the Redskins are pretty much saying that Minnifield will make the roster, if they want to treat him by putting him on the PUP list.[/quote]

Not to continue a conversation meant for another thread, but they also put Tristan Davis of the PUP list and I'm not really sure he will end up being kept...

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[quote=Chico23231;925227]my question with those numbers, if we were so great in the middle, why were our percentages so low going to it? Draws, pitch and cuts? We have zero power game in the middle...I think the numbers prop up the oline nicely, but not buying it.[/quote]I agree.
We almost never run inside the OGs and I would wager the statistical success isn't but rather combination of the ZBS+RB vision produced cutback lanes.
I was saying before the statistical success of our OL is a result of the ZBS.