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[quote=Coff;1088520]There are plenty of elite QBs who didn't look elite after their first two years. Brees and Rogers come to mind, both of whom have won a Super Bowl in the past five years.

That being said, not being an "elite" QB is no reason to get rid of a guy. Stability and consistency are equally important. Eli Manning and Joe Flacco are not elite QBs by any means, yet they have won three of the past seven Super Bowls.[/quote]

Steve Young.

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[quote=mredskins;1088466]honestly i nthe JAX game thta seemed like what they were doing with RGIII. then he got hurt.

I believe SS was saying RGIII need a cupcake game to get back on track, I really think that was the game.

The problem is none of this means jack if you can't stay healthy and IMO that is Griffin's number one problem.[/quote]

Bingo, and the funny thing is that Griffin was doing that in his rookie season. Do I think that Griffin can be for Washington what Wilson is for Luck? Yes, do I think he will be? I am not so sure anymore.

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"Show me a running QB, and I'll show you a loser." - RG2 and RG3.

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RG3 was able to elevate this team his rookie year. Optimism was in the air. Hr risked his body changing the momentum and inspiring his teammates. A lot of the big hits he took his rookie year came at times when the team needed inspiration. That's how I interpret his running. He always runs when the team stalls and are not able to do anything or seem to be in a funk.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1088491]No offense, but McNabb has never had the type of defense that Seattle is sporting. That accounts for a LOT. It's huge advantage. Wilson didn't need to take 1 snap in order to win the Super Bowl. Think about that. Didn't even need one offensive snap to win that game. Wilson is going to be good until the legs begin to go. (via age or injuries)





This. In fact, Seattle took a bunch of stuff from the Redskins that they use with Wilson. It's still not going to be a good long term plan.[/quote]

They already got one ring, and are clearly a dominant team.

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The blueprint is to protect your QB regardless if it's RG3 or Kirk neither can excel with the trenches the way they are. The skills players are there we have one of the best talented offenses with the worst o-line in the league period. J.Gruden and BA have to fix that ASAP.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1088555]They already got one ring, and are clearly a dominant team.[/quote]

Not sure anybody is arguing against that. There biggest issues they face are with the salary cap in the next couple of years. They have to pay Russell and Okung big time money so it'll be interesting to see. If they draft well, they'll continue the dominance, if not, they'll taper off.

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/yearly/]Seattle Seahawks Salary Caps by Year[/url]

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So my take on all this is, yeah RG3 "could" do what he does best, use his legs, etc. except for the fact that he has no clue how to do it without putting himself at risk. I don't care what some people say, he injured himself on an awesome athletic play in which he used awkward body mechanics that combined with shit luck, ended in him landing wrong. There are so many plays where he sacrifices his body to try to make a big play, not just by taking unnecessary hits but also by diving/falling/running/throwing in awkward ways. These plays are often fun to watch because it's absolutely brilliant athleticism, but they put him at risk.

Watching Wilson, he uses his athleticism, but not to the point where he sacrifices his body or put himself at risk for injury. So, can Robert learn to do the same? That's the real question. I worry that he gets so caught up in his game that he forgets about protecting himself, and that may be part of what makes him electrifying ~ when he looses himself in the game.

Ultimately, I'm still in the camp of [I]being a pocket passer is a necessary skill in this league for a QB to have lasting success[/I]. He needs a line, though. This team really needed a line before selling the farm for our Franchise QB IMO, it may be too late, but I hope RG3 comes back and makes me look like a chump for doubting him.

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[quote=WillH;1088561]So my take on all this is, yeah RG3 "could" do what he does best, use his legs, etc. except for the fact that he has no clue how to do it without putting himself at risk. I don't care what some people say, he injured himself on an awesome athletic play in which he used awkward body mechanics that combined with shit luck, ended in him landing wrong. There are so many plays where he sacrifices his body to try to make a big play, not just by taking unnecessary hits but also by diving/falling/running/throwing in awkward ways. These plays are often fun to watch because it's absolutely brilliant athleticism, but they put him at risk.

Watching Wilson, he uses his athleticism, but not to the point where he sacrifices his body or put himself at risk for injury. So, can Robert learn to do the same? That's the real question. I worry that he gets so caught up in his game that he forgets about protecting himself, and that may be part of what makes him electrifying ~ when he looses himself in the game.

Ultimately, I'm still in the camp of [I]being a pocket passer is a necessary skill in this league for a QB to have lasting success[/I]. He needs a line, though. This team really needed a line before selling the farm for our Franchise QB IMO, it may be too late, but I hope RG3 comes back and makes me look like a chump for doubting him.[/quote]


When the team plays better RG3 wont have to sacrifice his body. The Redskins always start off dead until RG3 starts his athleticism.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1088547]"Show me a running QB, and I'll show you a loser." - RG2 and RG3.[/quote]

Well I guess Wilson is a loser then.. :yeahright:

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1088563]When the team plays better RG3 wont have to sacrifice his body. The Redskins always start off dead until RG3 starts his athleticism.[/quote]

Actually on the play when he got hurt, all he had to do was throw the ball early when Jackson broke open. If he had done that then there was no reason be a hero.

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I think the argument about the Seattle team being well rounded and highly competitive as a reason for Wilson being elite is valid. Wilson's development was aided not hindered and thus helping him develop the confidence and leadership skills that have vaulted him into his position. If he was here he wouldn't have had the success he has had in Seattle but I also have no doubt that if we had the Wilson of last year and this year we are a middle of the road team instead of on pace for the same 3-13 record as last year.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1088592]I think the argument about the Seattle team being well rounded and highly competitive as a reason for Wilson being elite is valid. Wilson's development was aided not hindered and thus helping him develop the confidence and leadership skills that have vaulted him into his position. If he was here he wouldn't have had the success he has had in Seattle but I also have no doubt that if we had the Wilson of last year and this year we are a middle of the road team instead of on pace for the same 3-13 record as last year.[/quote]

Yeah dont know about that, if anything the Seattle offense is the one that benefited from Wilson's confidence and leadership. Go back to Wilson college career, his leadership and confidence been there-it was defining factor of why he went as high as he did in the draft.

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With Russell Wilson, [I]a star is born[/I], though he won't stay [I]young forever[/I]. If Griffin could stay healthy, he could [I]run this town[/I]. People may [I]hate[/I], but what both RG3 and RW have in common is that they are [I]so ambitious[/I]. I mean, you probably don't need the [I]reminder[/I], but back in 2012 we were saying [I]a star is born[/I]. But now we're [I]off that[/I] and [I]onto the next one[/I]

[I]What we talkin' about[/I] We talking about Russell Wilson The Blueprint (jersey #) 3

[I]thank you[/I]

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Nas > Jay Z