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Cleveland did fire Chud after one year and got a little backlash

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Why cut RG3? Let the new head coach decide what to do with him.

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I for some reason cannot see RGIII getting traded or released.

Fact is guy only played 5 or 6 games this season to say he gets coaches fired would be stretching it. One of those games he didn't even fully play. Instead of a coach that focuses on QB play or says they do how bout one thats gonna bring the beef on the offensive line? and a defensive coordinator that is as close to gregg williams as we can get without offering shit loads of money to make him our head coach like WE SHOULD OF after Joe Gibbs 2.0. We need someone on defense thats like that dude in Any Given Sunday you're afraid the guy is gonna suit up and go after you himself. If we don't revamp that line though Nobody not Robert, not Colt, Kirk, Tom Brady, Jameis Winston, whoever is gonna be successful.

Better yet why not give both of them one more year..this way you don't have to deal with all the contract BS.

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If Gruden is to survive, he needs a DC like Todd Bowles or Rod Marinelli. Both of this guys have proven to do more with less.

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Dallas' defense is still horrible, as I've been saying all season. Let's go get someone legit. Bowles, for instance...

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I have a few thoughts.

1) The reason RG III had to be taken out was not his poor play, but his throwing his teammates under the bus after a loss and (as before), not taking enough responsibility for the loss. A quarterback has to be able to say he screwed up sometimes (even if he didn't) to show he has his teammates' back.

2) All of our QBs have regressed behind this line. RG3 hasn't got his mechanics back since his injury and seems to be playing scared. Cousins started out well, but it was obvious his confidence eventually disintegrated. Colt McCoy also seems to be undergoing the same trend. I have to think this may be due to the offensive line, as I can't imagine we would have the bad luck to have 3 QBs with the same case of nerves with a semi-passable line. I'd say we've seen flashes of talent from at least 2 of the QBs. If we could hold onto them and focus on getting OL help, we may find that at least one of them works well behind a (reasonable) offensive line.

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[quote=SirLK26;1098442]Dallas' defense is still horrible, as I've been saying all season. Let's go get someone legit. Bowles, for instance...[/quote]

Didn't he sign an extension earlier this year?

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1098449]Didn't he sign an extension earlier this year?[/quote]

<sigh> Yep, through 2017.

Okay, someone like Bowles then. I want a guy with a proven track record of good defenses. Not someone like Haslett who's never had a lot of success.

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Keep Gruden...he's only a rookie HC.....trade RG3 for whatever he's worth...if Allen stays as GM he needs to take a studious look at the roster and upgrade what needs to be upgraded....

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Dallas is winning because of romo Dez and Murray not because of their defense. It's still ranked like 23 or something. Skins need a complete rebuild. What's the worst that's gonna happen?? We already suck ass anyway so it doesn't matter.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1098376]Jim Harbaugh isn't coming to Washington, y in the hell would anyone come to this shit hole. Honestly I think gruden is done and we Keep rg3 because Dan is too stubborn. And what gm do u guys want?[/quote]

I would love to have Ozzie Newsome or Ron Wolf.....or throw money at Bobby Beathard.....

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......just a question ,what was Joe Gibbs record his first year as a head coach ?



8-8 after going 0-5 to start

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[quote=Giantone;1098469]......just a question ,what was Joe Gibbs record his first year as a head coach ?



8-8 after going 0-5 to start[/quote]

Good point but the difference between Jay and Joe is that Joe's team got better as the year went on. I have literally seen no improvement from week one to now, maybe even a decline.

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[quote=mredskins;1098470]Good point but the difference between Jay and Joe is that Joe's team got better as the year went on. I have literally seen no improvement from week one to now, maybe even a decline.[/quote]



I agree ,Joe did have a different team and different people evaluating talent for and with him I think that is the big problem.A coach any coach needs to have time to get his team together ,I don't think Gruden has had that chance yet .I watch that whole game yesterday and there were many players who looked like crap on different plays .Colt was getting killed and when RGIII came in he was getting hit also ,Gruden is coaching with what he has .

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Continuing the revolving door at HC is just plain stupid but stupid seems to be the trademark of this organization. If anything needs gutted its the players. The only player the Skins should even consider a must keep is Kerrigan the rest of these guys are no account bums.