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[quote=Redskins_P;1109704]Let's also not forget the impact Bill Callahan can make on our current line. Maybe some good coaching is all they need?[/quote]

And hopefully he does a better job at developing our young players.

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Can't fix the entire team in one year. Hopefully these positions are addressed in the draft and undrafted free agents.

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I would like Goldson from tampa hay!. Two year contract 6M. Draft Amos to study under him for two years then promote him to starter.

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[quote=Chico23231;1109649]Good morning folks, as the dust settles from free agency and as I peruse our roster I see 2 gaping holes at starting spots still on vacant on the team. Right tackle and free safety positions have been severe problems for way too long on this team and with the remaining market available its wont be solved be this method.

The draft is thin at Free, but at Tackle there are many versatile players available in the college ranks, but none seem talented enough for a top 5 pick.

I would still keep my eye on Goldson in Tampa to see if he will be released. While Im not a huge fan, he is talented enough to start and be productive in this league on a 1 year deal. Stevie Brown has connections here, he is another I would at least bring in to gauge interest.

Right Tackle, Barksdale is still available and probably the most talented free agent left. Where above I would settle for Goldson as talented enough to still be productive, I dont see it in Barksdale with what his price is gonna command. I think we need to spend at least our 2nd round pick on Right Tackle.


[B]Its frustrating for the last 5 years we seem to have the same discussions for these same damn positions. Whats your plan at these starting spots for 2015?[/B][/quote]

the last line is as true as truth can be!!!

Has SM been a trader in the past, or has his drafts tended to be the picks he goes in with. I could see him being the kind of guy that knows the position each of his draft picks is at and him knowing exactly what/who he wants there.

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[quote=44Deezel;1109650]Sure, an upgrade at Right Tackle is needed, but the 82 Hogs couldn't block for our starting QB. Bad QBs get sacked behind any line.

See Jason Campbell. Constantly under pressure, O-line blamed incessantly. Insert Todd Collins (not exactly a future hall of famer) and the pressure miraculously goes away.

The Line will play better when there's a capable QB behind them.
[/quote]

check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/2014-Top-Moments-Griffin-III-Helu-Escape-Vikings/30e8790c-ba63-480e-87ea-27abc7098b89]2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings[/url]

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1109742]I would like Goldson from tampa hay!. Two year contract 6M. Draft Amos to study under him for two years then promote him to starter.[/quote]

I would rather eat clam chowder directly off of a public bathroom floor than pay Dashon Goldson 3 million dollars a year.

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[quote=Skins4L;1109961]check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/2014-Top-Moments-Griffin-III-Helu-Escape-Vikings/30e8790c-ba63-480e-87ea-27abc7098b89]2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings[/url][/quote]


looks like he ran back too far, beyond where the OL was supposed to set on that play. there was a pocket there, he was just 10 feet behind it.

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[quote=That Guy;1109963]looks like he ran back too far, beyond where the OL was supposed to set on that play. there was a pocket there, he was just 10 feet behind it.[/quote]

RG3 immediately took a 3 step drop out of shotgun.

Who knows if the play was designed to be a 3 step drop out of shotgun. i dont. I do know it must be frustrating to be a tackle, you block for a 3-5 step drop perfectly but your QB decided to take a 10 step drop, fans blame you for the sack anyway.

i imagine every D coord just tells his edge rushers to go wide and up the field 10 yards, dont worry the QB will be there.

- it looks like a busted screen play

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he actually took a 5 step drop out of shotgun, i'm pretty sure that's not normal.

to be fair, compton got completely manhandled too. it is what it is i guess.

Re: Right Tackle and Free Safety
 

[quote=Skins4L;1109961]check out this play. watch how Everson Griffin and Anthony Barr pretend like our Oline is invisible. dude has to make a highlight play just to dump it off on a checkdown? right side is garbage. period. nothing to do with qb.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/media-gallery/videos/2014-Top-Moments-Griffin-III-Helu-Escape-Vikings/30e8790c-ba63-480e-87ea-27abc7098b89]2014 Top Moments: Griffin III, Helu Escape Vikings[/url][/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/02/rg3-took-sacks-last-season-at-a-historic-rate/]RG3 took sacks last season at a historic rate | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Yea right. Doesn't have a darn thing to do with our QB huh.

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[quote=Schneed10;1109668]I think succumbing to the natural tendency to solve every roster spot in the first season is how you get yourself into trouble. Scot McCloughan has laid out a clear vision for the kind of player he wants on this team: eats sleeps breathes football, bigger is better though not the end all be all, has an incredible passion inside to be great, build from the trenches out, etc.

The last thing you want to do is bastardize that vision just because you have a need. I wouldn't just pick up the next best safety or RT to fill a hole. I would accept that in 2015 we're going to have a hole or two.

I would stay McCloughan's course. Continue bringing in free agents for visits. Continue to interview them and assess their inner passion and inner drive. Continue watching tape until I get a headache. And continue calling their high school coaches to get a sense of their character.

And if after doing all that I still haven't found a FS or RT who I think is a diamond in the rough, then I roll with Compton and Phillip Thomas.

The goal is not to make the playoffs this year. The goal is to win a Super Bowl sometime in the intermediate future.[/quote]


Yes but tackle is a really, really bad place to have a hole. Especially on a team that is trying to find out who their future QB is.

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I noticed a whole lot of nearly immediate interior pressure last year as well. Hard to blame the QB when they are getting hit as soon as they look up. We need more than just a RT.

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We have basically been the laughing stock of the NFL for the last 20 years. People are blaming RG3 for that like the rest of the team was great watch the film he's not the only one to blame. I can wait a little longer give this guy a line then we can talk. This is my opinion and you ain't changing it.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1109984]We have basically been the laughing stock of the NFL for the last 20 years. People are blaming RG3 for that like the rest of the team was great watch the film he's not the only one to blame. I can wait a little longer give this guy a line then we can talk. This is my opinion and you ain't changing it.[/quote]

Going from "nothing to do with the QB" to "he's not the only one to blame" is a change in opinion and a more accurate statement of what happened last year.

The line can get better. It is average to below average. It isn't terrible. I believe the biggest improvement the line has to make as a unit is power blocking on short yardage. We were pure crap this year picking up 1st downs on the ground. Hopefully as we get bigger, this will improve.

Almost every talking head who played for the skins, from Colt Brennan to Cooley, to Brian Mitchell preaches that sacks are 50/50 on the line and the QB. In fairness, Brunell is the outlier. It isn't QB or line, it is QB and line.

SM didn't think it was the unit in the most dire situation based on where he has spent money so far.

If the line is god awful, how do you explain Kirk Cousin's incredibly low sack rate compared to RG3 and Colt?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1109962][B]I would rather eat clam chowder directly off of a public bathroom floor[/B] than pay Dashon Goldson 3 million dollars a year.[/quote]

I've done that. It's not as great as it sounds.