Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1139751]I kinda disagree on RGIII having no motivation to be part of a trade. But the biggest motivation is non-football and maybe not a factor. DS has been nothing if not loyal to RGIII, and players have often shown loyalty to DS regardless of the coaching/FO mess and it may be that if the Skins deal only with teams he wants to go to, that he may pay back that loyalty by doing a deal within the framework of a trade. So maybe the Skins working with Griffins agent works up competing offers from Houston and SF,for example. If that happened the Skins might get a late pick or a player and RGIII and the other team have a mutually agreed deal in place.[/quote]

Hey RG3, its Danny here. I want to show my loyalty to you by cutting your pay significantly and then send you to Cleveland...

The agent has no reason to work with the skins for competing offers. He can just wait for him to be cut and work with whatever teams are interested to work up competing offers. There really is nothing in it for them to do it that way. If a team makes a contract offer to do a trade, then that team will make the same offer in FA, and maybe more if other teams get involved. Even if its a difference of 2 mil per year or 2.1 mil. Why not go for the extra 100k?

As I said in the previous post, I will never say anything is impossible when it comes to professional sports. But I fully expect RG3 and his agent will just give the NFL line... Its a business and we made a business decision. He is leaving town, that is pretty much guaranteed. I doubt RG3 is going to lose sleep over the skins not getting an extra 6th or 7th round pick.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[QUOTE=Skinzman;1139759]Hey RG3, its Danny here. I want to show my loyalty to you by cutting your pay significantly and then send you to Cleveland...

The agent has no reason to work with the skins for competing offers. He can just wait for him to be cut and work with whatever teams are interested to work up competing offers. There really is nothing in it for them to do it that way. If a team makes a contract offer to do a trade, then that team will make the same offer in FA, and maybe more if other teams get involved. Even if its a difference of 2 mil per year or 2.1 mil. Why not go for the extra 100k?

As I said in the previous post, I will never say anything is impossible when it comes to professional sports. But I fully expect RG3 and his agent will just give the NFL line... Its a business and we made a business decision. He is leaving town, that is pretty much guaranteed. I doubt RG3 is going to lose sleep over the skins not getting an extra 6th or 7th round pick.[/QUOTE]
They may, but your comment is not what I was saying. More so Bruce Allen and DS say we are sorry it didn't work here but we are going to try and work with you and get you where you want to be.

It may not happen but personal relationships are huge when it comes to making deals and I think DS being at RGIII's bedside after his surgery is something that RGIII will never forget.

Sent from my S6 Edge

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1139761]They may, but your comment is not what I was saying. More so Bruce Allen and DS say we are sorry it didn't work here but we are going to try and work with you and get you where you want to be.

It may not happen but personal relationships are huge when it comes to making deals and I think DS being at RGIII's bedside after his surgery is something that RGIII will never forget.

Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]

I remember when the story first broke about DS being at RG3's bedside. There were lots of comparisons to the Joe Theisman injury, etc. I remember one of the articles i read speculated that the reason why Dan Snyder had flown in to see RG3 was because his injury was considered to be "career ending", and they were hyping up the fact that DS had allegedly never flown to be with another injured player.

I thought since that day that RG3 and Snyder would always share some kind of bond. Still might be crazy but I think they figure out a way to keep him here as a backup, because it sounds like the Cousins situation has imploded...

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

if i'm RGIII, i'm not going for a trade unless the offer is better than the open market, which isn't likely.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

RGIII is GUARANTEED $16M if he's on the roster this year.

AKA it's not going to happen.

The Cousins situation will likely go down to the wire, because that's just how these things work. Neither side is going to budge until they have to.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

Toronto?
Hamilton?
Saskatchewan?

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=davy;1139773]Toronto?
Hamilton?
Saskatchewan?[/quote]

C'mon. He is going to be on an NFL roster next year.

I think he will be going into camp competing for the starting job.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1139761]They may, but your comment is not what I was saying. More so Bruce Allen and DS say we are sorry it didn't work here but we are going to try and work with you and get you where you want to be.

It may not happen but personal relationships are huge when it comes to making deals and I think DS being at RGIII's bedside after his surgery is something that RGIII will never forget.

Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]

People also don't realize that if a team approaches the Redskins about trading for RG3, it means that they are actually interested in him. So it'd be a stupid for him to flat out say no to a team that is interested in acquiring him. Even though teams know he'll be realize, some team may decide that they a.) want him and b.) don't want to have to fight over other teams for him.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

If a team was interested in RG3, why not start showing interest and talking contract now ... even though Im sure they have no real intent to do a sign and trade. I assume skins gave permission for teams to talk sign and trade w RG3s people.

Basically like early FA for RG3 .. which is a benefit to him.

my prediction - cowboys or houston. i think rg3 goes back home. i wish him the best.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=davy;1139773]Toronto?
Hamilton?
Saskatchewan?[/quote]

Eventually that's where I think he might end up. But not now. He'll get another team or two that will give him a shot. Look at some of the scrub QB's through the years that got several chances.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1139740]Houston makes the most sense to me. They have absolutely nobody at QB and they need to win now. I believe RGIII would start there and that he would help them more than anyone they could draft. I also think that the Texans' strong defense and the fact that they are located in Texas where RGIII has family and many fans would appeal to him.

I'd love to see RGIII revive his NFL career. He's a good man and he deserves another shot as an NFL starter.

p.s. It's a 3 hour drive from his hometown of Cpperas Cove, TX to Houston.[/quote]

I think Houston makes the least amount of sense just because of the offense that they run. Obrien would want a pure drop back QB, not one that struggles from the pocket. I think the Rams have the most desperate QB situation right now, Fischer has had mobile QB's in the past and that's where he'll probably end up.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1139814]I think Houston makes the least amount of sense just because of the offense that they run. Obrien would want a pure drop back QB, not one that struggles from the pocket. I think the Rams have the most desperate QB situation right now, Fischer has had mobile QB's in the past and that's where he'll probably end up.[/quote]

I agree.

When it comes to RGIII, the biggest question is not where he will play in 2016. For me the bigger question that be needs to be answered is: can RGIII develop into a successful NFL pocket passer?
If not, he will not be able to stay healthy or play well enough to keep a starting job. He will bounce around the NFL until no team wants him and plays in Canada. That makes where he plays next year pointless.

His 2012 success was in large part dependent on him being a running threat and that contradicts directly to his injury prone history and inability to take the pounding running NFL QB's take. Not to mention his terrible penchant of holding on to the ball way too long and improvising. That shit is a sack, injury and turnover waiting to happen. That shit has to stop or he will not survive in the NFL.
So doing it (being a pocket passer) all summer in practice is one thing. Doing successfully in a game is another animal and up to now he has not proven he can do it. Time will tell.
He would be better served to go to a talented team that already has a starter, like Dallas or KC or Philly and develop behind a good Qb. If thrown into a starting role, recent history (2013, 2014 and 2015) shows he is not ready.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

well reports from this year is RGIII really didn't take advantage of his time to really relearn his game this last year, so... i'd guess he's most likely to bounce around unless he finds someone that wants to run a version of zone read (until he gets hurt again and gets even slower).

patrick ramsey never got better or had a 2012 type year and he managed to hang around for over 7 years, so... i wouldn't be predicting the CFL any time soon.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=That Guy;1139846][B]well reports from this year is RGIII really didn't take advantage of his time to really relearn his game this last year,[/B] so... i'd guess he's most likely to bounce around unless he finds someone that wants to run a version of zone read (until he gets hurt again and gets even slower).

patrick ramsey never got better or had a 2012 type year and he managed to hang around for over 7 years, so... i wouldn't be predicting the CFL any time soon.[/quote]

If he didn't, that's really disappointing. I hoped, even though I know he won't be on the Skins, that the year off to heal, and learn the position as more of a pocket passer would let him come back in the league as a better QB.

Re: Predict RGIII's next team
 

[quote=skinsfan69;1139814]I think Houston makes the least amount of sense just because of the offense that they run. Obrien would want a pure drop back QB, not one that struggles from the pocket. I think the Rams have the most desperate QB situation right now, Fischer has had mobile QB's in the past and that's where he'll probably end up.[/quote]

Fisher would want him just so he can stare himself in the eye in a mirror somewhere and touch himself gently knowing he got ALL the players including the picks.