Re: Jordan Reed Gets Contract Exetension
 

^^ nailed it Joe.

Side note, Mosses and Long fit this description. They are now going to be key pieces in keeping it that way

Re: Jordan Reed Gets Contract Exetension
 

great news

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1143517]As I noted in the Josh Norman thread, SM has taken the scattershot approach from previous years and morphed it into a single purpose build model - Build for consistent success with tough talented "football players" and championships will follow. To do so, focus on growing your own to grow the right culture so it passes from locker room to locker room.

As demonstrated by the extensions to Reed, Williams, and Kerrigan, soon enough, we won't need to sign older players who will "help create the right culture" (like we did last year with Knighton & Goldson and in previous years like Ryan Clark & others) b/c the young guys will [I]have[/I] the right mindset and the "right culture" will already exist.

As GM, BA (with Shanahan admittedly) found some talented, tough "football players": Reed, T. Williams, Kerrigan, Morris, Paul, Breeland (and possibly Moses, Long, Murphy).
The problem was they weren't necessarily [I]aiming[/I] for the mindset or building around it. They just got talented guys who happened to have that mindset.

Scotty McC has a coherent vision for the [I]long term [/I]viability of this team as a winner. Conversely, as coach, Gruden [I]should[/I] be solely focused on winning [I]next[/I] year (not for job-security reasons, but because, as coach, that's where his focus should be).[/quote]


great insight....well said

Re: Jordan Reed Gets Contract Exetension
 

Love it.

He has been practicing all off season blocking CBs without holding.

He is going to be great.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1143514]Was there ever a contract you liked? Scot don't got to show you no stinkin' details. The deal is done.

One word: Schweet![/quote]

Thank you Einstein

How did the Culliver, Hatcher, Roberts, contracts work out ?

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[quote=Irrefutable;1143526]Thank you Einstein

How did the Culliver, Hatcher, Roberts, contracts work out ?[/quote]

I think Hatcher and Roberts were pre-McLovin.

Plus, the Culliver contract was awesome. Tons of potential upside (that didn't work out) and a get out of jail free card for the team.

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a little too early for my liking. reed has proved 2 things since he has been in DC.
1. he is a beast( when healthy)
2. he is injury prone
if the skins are going to make cousins "prove" he isnt a fluke, then why not reed?

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Reed's ability to produce has never been in question, just his ability to stay on the field which he did last year. Big difference between giving a TE big money and a QB too. His prove it year was last year.

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5 concussions in the past 5 years. I think 4 have been documented, 1 highly suspected but not reported.

I love what Reed brings but 22 mil guaranteed is a big investment for his injury history.

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There's risk with everyone, it's football folks. If we don't pay him someone else does next year.

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[quote=over the mountain;1143548]5 concussions in the past 5 years. I think 4 have been documented, 1 highly suspected but not reported.

I love what Reed brings but 22 mil guaranteed is a big investment for his injury history.[/quote]

I think one skill Reed learn which contributed highly to his "breakout" was how to properly protect his body. Knowing when to fight for extra yards, when to go down, when to go out of bounds, knowing when to put your head down, etc....this is part of that maturing process. I noticed he is playing smarter, more efficient. Hopefully the nagging injuries is behind the kid.

I think locking up Reed gets him at a cheaper price for now. Happy with the signing.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1143526]Thank you Einstein

How did the Culliver, Hatcher, Roberts, contracts work out ?[/quote]

They worked out like they should, they had an upside for the player if he performed, and an exit for the team if he didn't. In those three cases we took the exit, and our cap is still capable of picking up Norman when he came available.

I don't get when people think you can't write well constructed big contracts.

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[quote=over the mountain;1143548]5 concussions in the past 5 years. I think 4 have been documented, 1 highly suspected but not reported.

I love what Reed brings but 22 mil guaranteed is a big investment for his injury history.[/quote]

I am guessing that some or maybe even a lot of the guaranted money is roster bonus guarantees. But either way, we wanted to keep him on the team and they got it done. It's gotta be a good thing.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1143526]How did the Culliver, Hatcher, Roberts, contracts work out ?[/quote]

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1143555]They worked out like they should, they had an upside for the player if he performed, and an exit for the team if he didn't. In those three cases we took the exit, and our cap is still capable of picking up Norman when he came available.[/quote]

Irrefutably refuted.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1143556]I am guessing that some or maybe even a lot of the guaranted money is roster bonus guarantees. But either way, we wanted to keep him on the team and they got it done. It's gotta be a good thing.[/quote]

I like it the deal, I would have done it myself bc hes an amazing talent. to use a baseball term, he is +2 WAR imo. But I feel like this is uncharted waters. Long term deal w approx 50% guaranteed for a 25 year old guy with as many concussions as Wes Welker ... it scares me. His long term health and cap ramifications.

Safety wise, I actively worry about him during games like I did w RG3.