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skinsfaninok 10-02-2023 09:35 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
4 Weeks in and this offense is already MUCH BETTER than Turner ever had them playing.

2 Games of 30 or more points and 3 games of at least 20+.

Last yr we barely sniffed 30 in any game.

I love what I'm seeing but would like BROB to run more

punch it in 10-02-2023 09:41 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1347195]4 Weeks in and this offense is already MUCH BETTER than Turner ever had them playing.

2 Games of 30 or more points and 3 games of at least 20+.

Last yr we barely sniffed 30 in any game.

I love what I'm seeing but would like BROB to run more[/QUOTE]


Yeah i feel like if we were putting up 30 spots last few years we would have won a ton of games. Now the D is giving up 30 spots. One of these weeks both units will show up for the same game. Hopefully Thursday.

sdskinsfan2001 10-02-2023 10:46 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
[quote=punch it in;1347197]Yeah i feel like if we were putting up 30 spots last few years we would have won a ton of games. Now the D is giving up 30 spots. One of these weeks both units will show up for the same game. Hopefully Thursday.[/quote]

The Bears aren't good, so the D should look great.

AnonEmouse 10-02-2023 11:27 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
For all the moaning, we're a damn sight better team than we were this time last year. And probably going to get better.

jamf 10-02-2023 11:58 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
I like how EB has adjusted the game plan to work for Howell.
It's clear Howell is lost sitting in the pocket waiting for plays to develop.

The game plan adjustment at halftime in Denver was perfect. Ran the ball down their throats.

My gripe is the soft run we do to the right behind Cosmi. Seems like a delay which only gives the defense time to react. I'd like to see more downhill runs.

davy 10-03-2023 08:33 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
[quote=jamf;1347222]I like how EB has adjusted the game plan to work for Howell.
It's clear Howell is lost sitting in the pocket waiting for plays to develop.

The game plan adjustment at halftime in Denver was perfect. Ran the ball down their throats.

[B]My gripe is the soft run we do to the right behind Cosmi. Seems like a delay which only gives the defense time to react. I'd like to see more downhill runs.[/B][/quote]

Amen to this, hate that play.

Not as much as I hate going empty backfield when it's not an obvious passing down, again gives the defense the advantage.

Worst of all though was Logan Thomas running the sneak for a second time. He barely made it first time on about 5th effort and we run it again with predictable outcome.

:rant:

Chief X_Phackter 10-03-2023 08:49 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
I'd rather have LT run the QB sneak than Sam. Anyway, the 2nd one was a no play because of a false, and they got the 1st down anyway on their way to a TD.

Honestly, I wish every team would start running the "tush push". Force the league to ban it. It's the dumbest play in football right now - it's not even a football play. It's bad rugby...

davy 10-03-2023 09:09 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
While on the subject of QB sneaks...

"Every study of quarterback sneaks that’s been conducted has proved they are significantly more successful than other short-yardage plays.

ESPN research from 2017 showed that every NFL team had a higher conversion rate on quarterback sneaks than on other short-yardage plays.

Pro Football Focus research from February showed that quarterback sneaks are 13 percent more successful than other types of runs from the opposing 1-yard line, and 20 percent more successful than other third-and-1 or fourth-and-1 plays.

Football Outsiders research from 2016 showed that quarterback sneaks are more successful than every other type of play on third down and fourth down.

Advanced Football Analytics research from 2011 showed that a QB sneak on third-and-2 is more likely to be successful than a running back carry on third-and-1.

The Wall Street Journal reported in October that every quarterback in the league with at least 10 career sneak attempts has a success rate of 75 percent or better.

A 2015 Yale research paper stated that QB sneak attempts are worth nearly twice as much as non-sneaks by a metric called estimated points added.

Universally, these studies give QB sneaks a success rate between 70 and 90 percent.

Nothing else in football has a 70 to 90 percent success rate!"

:)

MTK 10-06-2023 04:14 PM

Re: The EB Effect
 
Time to start questioning EB just a bit? He’s getting Sam killed out there, another 5 sacks last night. 51 attempts for Sam last night, like WTF?

Did he study under the Spurrier school of QB protection?


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Chief X_Phackter 10-06-2023 04:20 PM

Re: The EB Effect
 
No way, he's our next Head Coach, haven't you heard?

skinsfan69 10-06-2023 04:23 PM

Re: The EB Effect
 
Not a fan. Slightly better than Turner.

That Guy 10-08-2023 02:20 PM

Re: The EB Effect
 
I would like to have a talk with him about the pass/run ratio. I don't know how many other teams go 55 passes to 6 runs in a game... actually, I do, it's zero.

SFREDSKIN 10-19-2023 10:33 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
Schlereth has a good take.

[url]https://www.audacy.com/thefandc/sports/washington-commanders/mark-schlereth-hammers-analytics-math-never-made-a-tackle?utm_campaign=www.audacy.com%252Fthefandc&utm_content=1697673832&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=WJFK-FM&fbclid=IwAR04-L32YdBtjWXb9wPMVR1VYd-GgLLaepBjeoUizzua13d9vZnsLKv6oas_aem_Ae7xMHjILlKLtDue1FyC-DgLSU0WBA0y1Gfy7SFnRmQupjGdag_C8KlxhQmjsnvB-fM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lnxa0yxlszt206z96j[/url]

davy 10-23-2023 10:05 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
[quote=davy;1347362]Amen to this, hate that play.

[B]Not as much as I hate going empty backfield when it's not an obvious passing down, again gives the defense the advantage.[/B]

Worst of all though was Logan Thomas running the sneak for a second time. He barely made it first time on about 5th effort and we run it again with predictable outcome.

:rant:[/quote]

He did it again!

First down run gains 6 yards, second and 4 he goes empty backfield and surprise surprise it's another sack.

:banghead:

SFREDSKIN 10-23-2023 10:48 AM

Re: The EB Effect
 
Atrocious run blocking and play calling have been the main issue. Last year with a shitty line and BRob coming back from being shot ran the ball way better. This year BRob either gains one yard or no gain. If he gets 5 yards, next play it's a pass. Keep running the fucking ball and make manageable.

Time to shuffle players on the line. Replace Gates, Wylie and Jay Leno.


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