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redrock-skins 08-02-2005 01:02 PM

Re: Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?
 
This is a nightmare for baseball. It would have been so much easier had this been Bonds or Sheffield and not Raffy.

cpayne5 08-03-2005 09:10 AM

Re: Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?
 
Check out this article about Deion Sanders. There is a blurb in there about steroids. It shows how easy it is to flunk a steroid test.

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-ravens-deion&prov=ap&type=lgns[/url]

BDBohnzie 08-03-2005 10:01 AM

Re: Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?
 
[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-palmeiro-stanozolol&prov=ap&type=lgns[/url]

A leak from the MLB stated that Raffy's test showed the drug stanozolol, the same stuff that Ben Johnson was busted for in the 88 Olympics after his record breaking 100 meter run.

cpayne5 08-03-2005 10:08 AM

Re: Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-palmeiro-stanozolol&prov=ap&type=lgns[/url]

A leak from the MLB stated that Raffy's test showed the drug stanozolol, the same stuff that Ben Johnson was busted for in the 88 Olympics after his record breaking 100 meter run.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just read that too. You can get a prescription for it. It's name brand is Winstrol.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol[/url]

BrudLee 08-03-2005 11:59 AM

Re: Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-palmeiro-stanozolol&prov=ap&type=lgns[/url]

A leak from the MLB stated that Raffy's test showed the drug stanozolol, the same stuff that Ben Johnson was busted for in the 88 Olympics after his record breaking 100 meter run.[/QUOTE]
Two [B]BIG[/B] problems I have with this "leak":[list][*]How can the "allegedly" sealed drug tests be released to the press? That's got to be a violation of his civil rights.[*]At what point does a vehement critic of steroid users go screaming past the point of hypocrisy right into pure evil? I mean, if Palmiero denied using steroids, then got caught using a questionable supplement, then he's a hypocrite. When he gets caught using one of the most powerful (and detectable) steroids available, then what does that make him?[/list]
I'm not usually a conspiracy kind of guy, but this whole thing stinks to high heaven.

BDBohnzie 08-04-2005 09:31 AM

Re: Palmeiro, Art Monk of the MLB?
 
1) The leak got paid...period. Why else would you put someone on the line like that, unless you were going to profit from it. Major League Baseball knows all those involved with the testing, and the leak should be fired.

2) Not quite to pure evil yet. His willingness to share with Congress shows that he wants to make sure an incident like his never happens again.

What I really want to know is how much do you have to take in order for it to show up in the test? I mean, he could have taken a few pills, and if the halflife is 4 days, and it's out of your system in 6, then it's quite possible that he took them once or twice, and that was that.

I honestly do not think he was doing them before now...Will Clark doesn't seem to think the same way though, but there is history between the 2 of them. Raffy's numbers started to jump before Canseco got to Texas, and the time Jose had with him was limited. Until proven otherwise, I think this is an isolated incident, and that it will be cleared up in due time.


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