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[QUOTE=skins052bgr8]Which directions are the Raiders going with a QB, I am surprised they have not shown a interest in Ramsey?[/QUOTE]

I think the rumor mill is that they may bring back Kerry Collins.......but then again, the Raiders change every day on what they are going to do at QB. You're right though, no interest in Ramsey from what I've heard.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]From the GangGreen Board......

[b]WFAN Rumor about Abraham[/b]
The Jets have traded Abraham to the Redskins for Patrick Ramsey, 2nd round pick this year, first round pick next year.

[b]THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED[/b][/QUOTE]

If true, I will be pissed. That is just aweful. :vomit:

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That is way too much. I hope to god that isn't true. But, given Dannys view of the draft and how un-important draft picks are, it is possible.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]From the GangGreen Board......

[b]WFAN Rumor about Abraham[/b]
The Jets have traded Abraham to the Redskins for Patrick Ramsey, 2nd round pick this year, first round pick next year.

[b]THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED[/b][/QUOTE]


It's nonesense, a caller called up the FAN and said that he heard a rumor that we were clearing up another 13 mil in cap to trade Ramsey and our second this year, and our first next year for Abraham.

And you wonder how rumors get started? :doh:

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Well, with Brees going to the Saints and Culpepper going to the Dolphins, I wonder how all that is going to affect the draft and Ramsey's chances of getting traded.

The Jets are now in prime position to get Cutler or Leinert. But, they've already got Pennington. If I were the Jets I would trade down or pick up LT Ferguson. They need some protection for whomever is going to be playing under center. Right now, their line is pathetic.

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[QUOTE=offiss]It's nonesense, a caller called up the FAN and said that he heard a rumor that we were clearing up another 13 mil in cap to trade Ramsey and our second this year, and our first next year for Abraham.

And you wonder how rumors get started? :doh:[/QUOTE]

were you the caller...you sly dog?

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Well, with Brees going to the Saints and Culpepper going to the Dolphins, I wonder how all that is going to affect the draft and Ramsey's chances of getting traded.[/QUOTE]

This improves the Jets chances of moving up in the draft to get Leinart if they want him. The key is in how they regard Ramsey. If they think he has a real upside, they can use their number one for D'Brick.

I can't imagine Ramsey being interested in a signing a new deal with the Jets that does not indicate that they seriously want him as something more than a backup or stopgap while they get Cutler or someone else ready.

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i would think people would want brick first. a QB is only going to be as good as your o-line lets him or her be.

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[QUOTE=PWNED]i would think people would want brick first. a QB is only going to be as good as your o-line lets him or her be.[/QUOTE]

Not to mention they lost Randy Thomas to us a few years ago, they cut Mawae, and they let RT Kareem McKenzie go to the Giants last season. Who exactly do they plan to have at OL?

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transformers.

theyre more than meets the eye you know.

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From a Jets' message board...

NBC 4 of Wash D.C. -George Michaels reports Jet's deal to send Abraham to Washington is "100% bogus". He said the Redskins lost interest when they signed A.Carter. He said he was told this by the Redskins front office.

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I think Michaels is right. I couldn't really understand why we would bring Abraham onboard now.

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KFFL: Miami released Gus to avoid paying a roster bonus.

Before Culpepper and Brees came on the market, they had Ramsey in their sights.

Backing up Culpepper could turn into a starting role for Patrick. The Dolphins might part with a five or a six to acquire the last year of his contract.

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without gus, the phins are suddenly back in the market.

abraham for a 2nd and a 1st is total BS, NO ONE would even conider that deal. he'll be released sooner or later (they can't franchise him again after this year).

not to mention it'd kill our cap and possibly cost us the ability to fill our remaining holes (and JA isn't the world's best guy either).

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[QUOTE=Huddle]KFFL: Miami released Gus to avoid paying a roster bonus.

Before Culpepper and Brees came on the market, they had Ramsey in their sights.

Backing up Culpepper could turn into a starting role for Patrick. The Dolphins might part with a five or a six to acquire the last year of his contract.[/QUOTE]

What's the status on Daunte's health? Will he be ready for opening day? For that matte, what about the Bengals and Carson Palmer?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]What's the status on Daunte's health? Will he be ready for opening day? For that matte, what about the Bengals and Carson Palmer?[/QUOTE]

The Vikings wouldn't let the Fins examine him before the trade but the deal is contingent upon him passing a physical.

It would surprise me if the Dolphins would release Gus without somebody lined up to replace him.

The Bengals are looking at Jamie Martin.

The only word on Daunte's progress comes from Daunte who says he's rehabbing way ahead of schedule. I haven't read anything about Palmer.

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What is to become of Ramsey....it doesn't seem like there is much of a market for him....is he gonna be released or our we still holding out for some kind of compensation...also why couldnt we have just kept him....is Collins really any better for us...or is it just that he [Ramsey] wont shut up about starting...it seems to me he was still a goof fit for us.....maybe a bit jittery in the pocket but is Collins any better?

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dolphins and jets probably still want ramsey.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]The Vikings wouldn't let the Fins examine him before the trade but the deal is contingent upon him passing a physical.

It would surprise me if the Dolphins would release Gus without somebody lined up to replace him.

The Bengals are looking at Jamie Martin.

The only word on Daunte's progress comes from Daunte who says he's rehabbing way ahead of schedule. I haven't read anything about Palmer.[/QUOTE]

See that's what's confusing to me because apparently, from what I've heard and seen on ESPN, he won't be ready to play until around mid-October (a year after his injury). So how will he pass a physical now?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]See that's what's confusing to me because apparently, from what I've heard and seen on ESPN, he won't be ready to play until around mid-October (a year after his injury). So how will he pass a physical now?[/QUOTE]

they probably just want to bring him in and judge his recovery...

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ESPN's Clayton is still saying that the Jets' offered of a 7th round choice for Ramsey but the Skins wanted a fourth.

Abraham was last reported visiting Seattle. Atlanta is a possible landing place for him but the Jets want Shaub and Atlanta needs him.

When Culpepper can start is unknown. Miami reportedly is working only on Daunte's description of his progress.

I think Ramsey is willing to go anywhere for the final year of his contract, but he's not going to sign an extension unless it's someplace where he has a chance to start and be successful. And, without that extension, his trade value is minimal. But Miami could use him as Daunte insurance for a year.

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From the ES site...

David Elfin of the Washington Times today reported Skins involved in trade talks with Jets last night. Patrick to the Jets for a sixth plus a future (no number mentioned).

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damn, that's pretty worthless :/

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ESPN's Clayton Wed. 3/15

With the Redskins stalled in trade talks with the Jets over quarterback [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5918"][color=#0000ff]Patrick Ramsey[/color][/url], they have given Ramsey permission to visit the Bucs. Ramsey lost two teams interested in him Tuesday when the Lions signed [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4157"][color=#0000ff]Jon Kitna[/color][/url] and the Dolphins traded for [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4659"][color=#0000ff]Daunte Culpepper[/color][/url]. The Bucs are looking to replace [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4322"][color=#0000ff]Brian Griese[/color][/url] and are considering Ramsey if the trade price is right. The Redskins are asking for a fourth-round pick. The Jets offered a seventh. With most of their moves done in free agency, the Redskins have invested most of their time trying to find a team interested in giving them value for Ramsey.

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Gibbs should hold onto Ramsey and trade him during the draft. Teams may warm up to a deal and offer more then.

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If Favre does retire, should the Packers be considered an option? Or are they just going to put all their focus and energy into Rogers?

And there's talk that the Lions may let Harrington go before his bonus is due in June. That could open the Detroit door again for Ramsey

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if the lions get kitna and mccown, i'm not sure they'd spend a draft pick on ramsey.

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Kitna is signed for four years.

Since he didn't visit them. I don't think Ramsey was interested in going there.

Mike Martz has his hands full. The receivers are not the precise route runners he likes and he has to build the O line.

The Bucs might work for Ramsey. Chris Simms doesn't look like a lock and he's only signed for one year.

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Maybe someone can answer this question.

I can't figure out why the Redskins don't give Jimmy Sexton permission to contact all the teams P. Ramsey might be interested in...with the exception of our NFC East rivals.

If reports are correct, he was given permission to contact only Miami, Detroit, and the Jets. Now Clayton says he's been given permission to visit the Bucs. Why restrict him to those teams?

There must be a good reason but I haven't figured it out. Can you?

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Maybe someone can answer this question.

I can't figure out why the Redskins don't give Jimmy Sexton permission to contact all the teams P. Ramsey might be interested in...with the exception of our NFC East rivals.

If reports are correct, he was given permission to contact only Miami, Detroit, and the Jets. Now Clayton says he's been given permission to visit the Bucs. Why restrict him to those teams?

There must be a good reason but I haven't figured it out. Can you?[/QUOTE]

the team has to ask the skins first. ramsey is the one that said no to cinncy.

the packers would probably look at mccown first if farve says no and he still hasn't signed.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]the team has to ask the skins first. ramsey is the one that said no to cinncy.

the packers would probably look at mccown first if farve says no and he still hasn't signed.[/QUOTE]

Yes. I understand that the team has to ask the Skins first. My question was: Why don't the Skins give Jimmy Sexton permission to contact other teams of his choosing? What's the disadvantage if Ramsey's agent finds a trading partner?

I haven't heard about any interest from Cincinnati. Who reported that? Do you recall?

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Yes. I understand that the team has to ask the Skins first. My question was: Why don't the Skins give Jimmy Sexton permission to contact other teams of his choosing? What's the disadvantage if Ramsey's agent finds a trading partner?

I haven't heard about any interest from Cincinnati. Who reported that? Do you recall?[/QUOTE]

KFFL, ESPN, some others... maybe it was on clayton's blog. one of the analysts said his unwillingless to go to certain teams like rebuffing marvin lewis, was slowing down the process. the skins probably haven't put any limits on sexton, its just you only hear about the teams as they actually ask.

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[QUOTE=That Guy] the skins probably haven't put any limits on sexton, its just you only hear about the teams as they actually ask.[/QUOTE]

I read that the vikings would not allow Culpepper to canvass the market. My impression is that the Redskins were doing the same with Ramsey. But maybe I'm mistaken.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]I read that the vikings would not allow Culpepper to canvass the market. My impression is that the Redskins were doing the same with Ramsey. But maybe I'm mistaken.[/QUOTE]

nah, i think its more ramsey thinking he couldn't start so he wouldn't want to go... the skins have no real reason to oppose his trade.

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[b]Bengals | Team possible landing spot for Ramsey[/b]
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:54:30 -0800

[url="http://www.kffl.com/link/130"]Randy Lange[/url], of the [url="http://www.kffl.com/link/131"]Bergen Record[/url], reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/12/nfl"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url] have been added as a possible trading partner with the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"]Washington Redskins[/url] for QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1938/nfl"]Patrick Ramsey[/url].


so now there's an official source for sure.

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miami, jets, bucs, and bengals are still interested in ramsey according to latest am980 report (10am 3/16).

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[QUOTE=That Guy][b]Bengals | Team possible landing spot for Ramsey[/b]
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:54:30 -0800

[url="http://www.kffl.com/link/130"]Randy Lange[/url], of the [url="http://www.kffl.com/link/131"]Bergen Record[/url], reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/12/nfl"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url] have been added as a possible trading partner with the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"]Washington Redskins[/url] for QB [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1938/nfl"]Patrick Ramsey[/url].


so now there's an official source for sure.[/QUOTE]

They have the weapons. Given doubt on Palmer's knee, Ramsey could do worse if he's only committed for one year.

Marvin Lewis had a good look at Patrick, so he knows what he's getting.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]nah, i think its more ramsey thinking he couldn't start so he wouldn't want to go... the skins have no real reason to oppose his trade.[/QUOTE]

Ramsey is not going to start anywhere at this point. His only hope is that he learns a new system and the starter gets hurt sometime next year. Of the teams that have been mentioned in this thread as trading partners, the Jets are his best chance of starting. He is not going to beat out Culpepper in Miami or Palmer in Cinncy. If the Jets draft a Leinart or a Young or a Cutler, there is no guarrentee that those guys would be opening day starters. He may beat out Pennington in a Preseason contest.

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[QUOTE=scowan]Ramsey is not going to start anywhere at this point. His only hope is that he learns a new system and the starter gets hurt sometime next year. Of the teams that have been mentioned in this thread as trading partners, the Jets are his best chance of starting. He is not going to beat out Culpepper in Miami or Palmer in Cinncy. If the Jets draft a Leinart or a Young or a Cutler, there is no guarrentee that those guys would be opening day starters. He may beat out Pennington in a Preseason contest.[/QUOTE]

breess daunte and palmer are all still crippled at this point. there are doubt as to any of them actually starting the season right now.

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KFFL: Detroit has signed McCown to compete with Kitna.

Goodbye, Joey