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[QUOTE=Winskins]Haha, I MUST SAY, nice name change on the thread. Props on whoever put thought that one up.[/QUOTE]

Thank you

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Man its a done deal apperently...... i just hope it doesn't bite us in the Ass, as I look at it this is his last chance to play in the NFL and colect so I hope he gets it.....

And yeah like 1 of you said fans tend to forget if TO comes to dallas and scores 15 tds like he did in Philly no body would remmember his offense to the star, hey a lot of fans don't remmember or don't care now sicne we're split 50 - 50 on should he or should he be a cowboy.

..... Changing subject I hear a lot of comments about Archuleta his a good player my question is don't you agree you overpay him I mean making him the highest paid safety in the league is a bit much. That's the only thing for me he isn't even close to Reed, Roy, Taylor, Dawkins, Brown, Polamalu, Wilson, Sanders league this will hurth future contracts.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Man its a done deal apperently...... i just hope it doesn't bite us in the Ass, as I look at it this is his last chance to play in the NFL and colect so I hope he gets it.....

And yeah like 1 of you said fans tend to forget if TO comes to dallas and scores 15 tds like he did in Philly no body would remmember his offense to the star, hey a lot of fans don't remmember or don't care now sicne we're split 50 - 50 on should he or should he be a cowboy.

..... Changing subject I hear a lot of comments about Archuleta his a good player my question is don't you agree you overpay him I mean making him the highest paid safety in the league is a bit much. That's the only thing for me he isn't even close to Reed, Roy, Taylor, Dawkins, Brown, Polamalu, Wilson, Sanders league this will hurth future contracts.[/QUOTE]

he is close to a lot of the guys you just mentioned. he's a big hitter. he is overpaid, but whatever, its too late to change that now.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Man its a done deal apperently...... i just hope it doesn't bite us in the Ass, as I look at it this is his last chance to play in the NFL and colect so I hope he gets it.....

And yeah like 1 of you said fans tend to forget if TO comes to dallas and scores 15 tds like he did in Philly no body would remmember his offense to the star, hey a lot of fans don't remmember or don't care now sicne we're split 50 - 50 on should he or should he be a cowboy.

..... Changing subject I hear a lot of comments about Archuleta his a good player my question is don't you agree you overpay him I mean making him the highest paid safety in the league is a bit much. That's the only thing for me he isn't even close to Reed, Roy, Taylor, Dawkins, Brown, Polamalu, Wilson, Sanders league this will hurth future contracts.[/QUOTE]

Wooo, hold on and wait a Menudo. Hey don't try to sneak in here and change the TO/cowboys enjoyment. Let me brush off what you said because it's GONNA hurt us (like in the FUTURE, like we all know it was gonna hurt us every year).

But going back to TO/Cowboys, damn that was a match made in H E L L. To understate it a little, it will be interesting to see what kind of relationship he and Parcells will have, especially with the "little" blowup that happened last year (?) with Antonio Bryant. Bryant's behavior that was reported wasn't close to being half as bad as Owens... can't wait for the drama. I don't see Owens changing his behavior one bit and I don't see Parcells being able to put up with that behavior. Let's see who bends first, if they even do.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Man its a done deal apperently...... i just hope it doesn't bite us in the Ass, as I look at it this is his last chance to play in the NFL and colect so I hope he gets it.....

And yeah like 1 of you said fans tend to forget if TO comes to dallas and scores 15 tds like he did in Philly no body would remmember his offense to the star, hey a lot of fans don't remmember or don't care now sicne we're split 50 - 50 on should he or should he be a cowboy.

..... Changing subject I hear a lot of comments about Archuleta his a good player my question is don't you agree you overpay him I mean making him the highest paid safety in the league is a bit much. That's the only thing for me he isn't even close to Reed, Roy, Taylor, Dawkins, Brown, Polamalu, Wilson, Sanders league this will hurth future contracts.[/QUOTE]

D'Boyz, here is why Archuleta is a great value for the Skins and why TO is a disaster for Dallas (at any price): Archuleta improves his team and TO will hurt his.

Archuleta is part of the reason why the Skins will improve their record over 2K6 and TO is a big part of the reason why Dallas will have a worse record.

Leopards don't change their spots. BTW, at 33, the overwhelming probability is that TOs best games and seasons are in the past.

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[QUOTE=warriorzpath]Wooo, hold on and wait a Menudo.[/QUOTE]

Thas some funny shit

The bryant thing was 2 years ago and I guess TO and Parcell have sit down and talk a lot (not that it matters hey is TO) again We all don't know what's going to be the result of this we all are at limbo.

Hey a lot of TO teamates in philly wanted him back so I really don't know ..... Im just holding my breath.

But with the Archuleta thing I'm sorry he isn't in the same league as the guys a mentione before if he where he still be a Ram you don't let your star players hit FA

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i think TO will help you fags in the short term. And he will be the final straw that helps The Tuna retire next year after you don't make the playoffs. maybe we will let you have one of our assistants as your head coach in 2007. I'll think about it.

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]D'Boyz, here is why Archuleta is a great value for the Skins and why TO is a disaster for Dallas (at any price): Archuleta improves his team and TO will hurt his.

Archuleta is part of the reason why the Skins will improve their record over 2K6 and TO is a big part of the reason why Dallas will have a worse record.

Leopards don't change their spots. BTW, at 33, the overwhelming probability is that TOs best games and seasons are in the past.[/QUOTE]


Again I didn't say Archuleta was a bad pic for you guys I said you overpaid the guy.

Or in your mind his the best Safety out there in the whole NFL. I don't think so

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Again I didn't say Archuleta was a bad pic for you guys I said you overpaid the guy.

Or in your mind his the best Safety out there in the whole NFL. I don't think so[/QUOTE]

I never said he was the best anything. I will even stipulate that TO is one of the best receivers and Arch is not anywhere close to being in TO's class as a player. However, Arch is a better value because of the impact on the team.

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[QUOTE=Monksdown][b]i think TO will help you fags in the short term[/b]. And he will be the final straw that helps The Tuna retire next year after you don't make the playoffs. maybe we will let you have one of our assistants as your head coach in 2007. I'll think about it.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]But with the Archuleta thing I'm sorry he isn't in the same league as the guys a mentione before if he where he still be a Ram you don't let your star players hit FA[/QUOTE]

I can't agree, there are a lot of stars in free agency. There is a handful on the redskins I can think of right now. Griffin, Washington, Springs, Randle-El, Archuleta.

Hey, I guess nobody lets their stars go... like Terrell Owens. And I bet there is an argument somewhere about what is a star and why they are released and so on... but I won't discuss, that's a judgment thing. Matter of fact this is a judgment thing... let me get off of this.

Anywayz, do you think that it would be overpaying a star wideout with (major) behavior issues which would possibly destroy a whole team? I know Jones is a gambling man, but his whole team? Cuz that's the risk the Cowboys are taking on.

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OK is he worth the Highest salary for a safety in the History of the NFL. or not if not you overpaid. Simple is he worth the top 5? what has he done to deserve that raise thats my question?

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i think this year is one of those years where basically everything done in FA you kind of have to throw out the window. this wont be the norm for the future years, its all a result of the CBA agreement. whether AA is worth top 5 safety money, possibly, but was he worth top safety money in nfl historY? probably not, but like i said before just remember that the cba caused a lot of crazy deals to get done. i mean those deals for bentley and hutchinson are INSANE.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]OK is he worth the Highest salary for a safety in the History of the NFL. or not if not you overpaid. Simple is he worth the top 5? what has he done to deserve that raise thats my question?[/QUOTE]

If Arch makes the TEAM better and his play is part of the equation that results in a better WL record, his price is more than worth it. Conversely, TO is expensive at any price because of the probabilty his impact on the team will be a gigantic negative.

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make sure the you capitalize "History of the NFL." And lets forget about the inherent relativity in determining the value of the dollar. Ya know, $1 today is $1 yesterday and all. Come on dude. The value of a Dan Snyder $1 is alot less than a Ram $1. Because we have more of them. Money doesnt establish value. The buyer's demand establishes value.

Good lord, are we on the Gold Standard still?

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]If Arch makes the TEAM better and his play is part of the equation that results in a better WL record, his price is more than worth it. Conversely, TO is expensive at any price because of the probabilty his impact on the team will be a gigantic negative.[/QUOTE]

i agree. this is why i dont see why anyone wuld want his gigantic contract because unless your team is just a player away frmo super bowl contention, you dont get him. hes a hired gun, nothing more.

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[QUOTE=Monksdown]

Good lord, are we on the Gold Standard still?[/QUOTE]

Only because Jack Kemp never became President. ;-)

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]OK is he worth the Highest salary for a safety in the History of the NFL. or not if not you overpaid. Simple is he worth the top 5? what has he done to deserve that raise thats my question?[/QUOTE]

Ok overpaying a safety that may hurt the team in the future (conceding to your opinion for the point of this argument) that upgrades a position at the very least .... OR ..... taking on a bipolar (now conceding to my opinion) wr that may destroy an entire team... it happened with the only 2 teams he has been with before and stirred up a team that he never was a teammate of (Ravens). Now that's not overpaying, that's priceless.

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MSNBC has weighed in:

[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11822170/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11822170/[/url]


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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]MSNBC has weighed in:

[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11822170/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11822170/[/url]


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Cool good, see that makes it three good sources...lol its not a rumor anymore

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[QUOTE=hooskins]Cool good, see that makes it three good sources...lol its not a rumor anymore[/QUOTE]

Yeah, glad to see your reputation on here is still intact. :)

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]OK is he worth the Highest salary for a safety in the History of the NFL. or not if not you overpaid. Simple is he worth the top 5? what has he done to deserve that raise thats my question?[/QUOTE]

Well, I know what he hasn't done. He hasn't gotten burned twice on deep TD passes in the final few minutes of a huge Monday night rivalry game at home in front of a viewing audience of millions, thereby costing his team the game...........so I guess I'm comfortable with him making more money than some other so-called elite safeties out there.

Oh, and Roger Stauback never got paid as much as Joey Harrington..........does that mean Joey Harrington is a better QB? Time value of money......makes the whole "History of the NFL" comment a little ridiculous.

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Remember during ast year's training camp when Reid yelled at TO and TO said something to the effect of "Is your last name Owens? Only my mother talks to me that way." Given Parcells jolly nature, especially during training camp, I wonder how long he can restrain himself from vocalizing his displeasure at TO.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan]Remember during ast year's training camp when Reid yelled at TO and TO said something to the effect of "Is your last name Owens? Only my mother talks to me that way." Given Parcells jolly nature, especially during training camp, I wonder how long he can restrain himself from vocalizing his displeasure at TO.[/QUOTE]

That is a very good point, I really either Parcells with have to soften(which wont happen) or TO is going to eurupt. I can not wait till Cowboys training camp!!!

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan]Remember during ast year's training camp when Reid yelled at TO and TO said something to the effect of "Is your last name Owens? Only my mother talks to me that way." Given Parcells jolly nature, especially during training camp, I wonder how long he can restrain himself from vocalizing his displeasure at TO.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind just how well Bledsoe and KJ got along. Combine that with how neither TO or Bledsoe are known for being real stoic.

This is going to be so fun to watch. I can't wait. I'm really looking forward to seeing Dallas visit Philly. Eagles fans don't know how to treat Santa with respect. They're going to have a freaking riot on their hands.

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ESPECIALLY if TO does well.

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]MSNBC has weighed in:

[url="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11822170/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11822170/[/url]


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yep..thats it.

haha.

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i can honestly see TO punching parcells in his big fat mouth.

and then parcells trying to eat TOs fist, not in retaliation, but because hes REALLY REALLY hungry.

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Anyone have the movie of Williams knocking TO off the star?

Please?

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Realistically, TO is smart enough to control his mouth for at least half a season. That's only if the Cowboys are winning and having a good ol' time throwing him the ball (who else can they throw the ball to?). Can't wait to see the schedule to figure out when the inevitable breakdown will begin.

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Anyone have the movie of Williams knocking TO off the star?

Please?[/QUOTE]

Actually wasn't it George Teague?

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i would have just punched TO is his f-ing dome. i dont care, penalty are not, you dont disrespect people like that.

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[b]Cowboys | Team also denies signing of Owens[/b]
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:12:17 -0800

Updating an earlier report, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Dallas Cowboys[/color][/url] have also denied a report that the team has reached an agreement with free agent WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1608/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Terrell Owens[/color][/url] (Eagles). [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Cowboys[/color][/url] spokesman Rich Dalrymple said the team has nothing planned.

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if the cowboys suck.....parcells swallows.
Id personally like to thank Jerry for this great deal. I cannot wait to see archuleta hit him.

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Look at this from the perspective of a math problem....

If Pp=Parcells history of interacting with players
If Btw=Bledsoe's history of calling out WRs and other team mates on the field and sidelines
If Tc is TOs history of interacting with coaches
If Tq is TOs history of interacting with QBs
If Tm is TOs history of interacting with the media
If Ro is Rosenhauses influence on TO
If C$ is an incentive laden contract, then....

((Pp x Tc)+(Btw x Tq)+(Tm x Ro))/C$=DALLAS SUCKS

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[QUOTE=RiggoRules]Look at this from the perspective of a math problem....

If Pp=Parcells history of interacting with players
If Btw=Bledsoe's history of calling out WRs and other team mates on the field and sidelines
If Tc is TOs history of interacting with coaches
If Tq is TOs history of interacting with QBs
If Tm is TOs history of interacting with the media
If Ro is Rosenhauses influence on TO
If C$ is an incentive laden contract, then....

((Pp x Tc)+(Btw x Tq)+(Tm x Ro))/C$=DALLAS SUCKS[/QUOTE]

The good part about this equation is- no matter what, the answer's always the same.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan]Actually wasn't it George Teague?[/QUOTE]
it was

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[QUOTE=jdockser]if the cowboys suck.....parcells swallows.
Id personally like to thank Jerry for this great deal. I cannot wait to see archuleta hit him.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure why everyone is SO happy about this move, I would have rather seen him in the AFC for sure, even though Springs covers him pretty well. Dallas has a better potential running game and TO was a fantasy machine before the Eagles shut him down. He still has mad game. Sure we signed some fast receivers too, but he is one of the best and we don't even have a 3rd CB right now.....and with Springs and Rodgers always banged up, this trade makes me more nervous than happy. Also we should have gotten more for Ramsey than a 6th rounder....so I'll curb my enthusiasm until Springs shuts his fat mouth up on game day.

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[QUOTE=SanFranSkinsFan]I'm not sure why everyone is SO happy about this move, I would have rather seen him in the AFC for sure, even though Springs covers him pretty well. [/QUOTE]

For those who understand, no explanation is necessary, for those who do not, none will suffice.

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]Thas some funny shit

The bryant thing was 2 years ago and I guess TO and Parcell have sit down and talk a lot (not that it matters hey is TO) again We all don't know what's going to be the result of this we all are at limbo.

Hey a lot of TO teamates in philly wanted him back so I really don't know ..... Im just holding my breath.

But with the Archuleta thing I'm sorry he isn't in the same league as the guys a mentione before if he where he still be a Ram you don't let your star players hit FA[/QUOTE]

wait, star players like lavar, peterson, [b]Terrel Owens[/b], brees, culpepper, abraham, law... i'm sorry, but you're just wrong there.