Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

Ramsey, we hardly knew you. Say hello to Coles.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Controversy? How can there be a controversy? Collins is clearly superior to Brunell!

The stats don't lie. Collins has thrown just 19 interceptions in 11 seasons while Brunell, that turnover machine, has been picked 102 times in 12.[/QUOTE]


How many games has Collins started in his 11 seasons? How many passes has Collins thrown in that same time spand compared to Brunell?

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan]How many games has Collins started in his 11 seasons? How many passes has Collins thrown in that same time spand compared to Brunell?[/QUOTE]

it was a joke, flying by ;)

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

Good luck to Patrick, he will be successful in the NFL somewhere...just not New York.

So if he was traded before the deadline last year, what would have happened when Brunell got hurt in the Giants game? Could you really say that the Skins would have won with Campbell and made the playoffs? I don't know, but I'm glad they had him.

And yes, a 6th rounder is a total rip, but as I see it, its better than the nothing they would have gotten from cutting him to free the cap space anyway.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012]Good luck to Patrick, he will be successful in the NFL somewhere...just not New York.

So if he was traded before the deadline last year, what would have happened when Brunell got hurt in the Giants game? Could you really say that the Skins would have won with Campbell and made the playoffs? I don't know, but I'm glad they had him.

And yes, a 6th rounder is a total rip, but as I see it, its better than the nothing they would have gotten from cutting him to free the cap space anyway.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think a 6th rounder may be in the end worse than nothing. With a 6th rounder you have to give them at least SOME money when they sign, and lets face it, they aren't gonna make the team.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

im not so sure paul. sometimes there are gems to be had. its a crapshoot, however wouldnt the payoff be WAY greater if we were to find a gem. cooley was a 3rd round pick and we see how he turned out. granted 3rd is WAY better than 6th, but still.

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[QUOTE=paulskinsfan]Actually, I think a 6th rounder may be in the end worse than nothing. With a 6th rounder you have to give them at least SOME money when they sign, and lets face it, they aren't gonna make the team.[/QUOTE]
Paul, Tom Brady on line 1, he has a point of disagreement with you.

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We could probably package some of those later round picks to move up a bit. A 6th rounder isn't a complete waste.

What did people realistically expect when the Vikes only got a 2nd rounder for Culpepper??

Obviously the demand around the league for an inconsistent/unproven QB isn't that high, especially in a flooded QB market.

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I hear you guys on the "Tom Brady" issue, but lets be honest here, our draft evaluations haven't been exactly "stellar" in the mid to late rounds. This perplexes me, b/c Gibbs is so quick to address a problem. How can anyone look at our draft performance in the mid to late rounds the past several years and not see a problem? I mean at some point don't we question the scouting team?

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[QUOTE=Huddle]Controversy? How can there be a controversy? Collins is clearly superior to Brunell!

The stats don't lie. Collins has thrown just 19 interceptions in 11 seasons while Brunell, that turnover machine, has been picked 102 times in 12.[/QUOTE]Campbell should get the job he has never thrown an interception in the NFL.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

wasn't rypien a 6th rounder?

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[QUOTE=That Guy]wasn't rypien a 6th rounder?[/QUOTE]

Tom Brady was.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]wasn't rypien a 6th rounder?[/QUOTE]

Working on memory only... I think Rypien, Humphries and Schroeder were all fifth and sixth rounders.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

yeah, i forgot about doing what matty suggested. it might be a good idea to trade a couple of those 6th rounders and move up a bit.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Working on memory only... I think Rypien, Humphries and Schroeder were all fifth and sixth rounders.[/QUOTE]

Just check the [url="http://www.thewarpath.net/drafthistory.htm"]draft history page[/url]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Just check the [url="http://www.thewarpath.net/drafthistory.htm"]draft history page[/url][/QUOTE]

I didn't know that was there. Thanks.

So, Schroeder was a third and Humphries and Rypien were sixths.

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Also, some good players can fall that deep. In 2004, Randy Starks was supposed to be a top 15 pick, and the Titans got him in the 3rd round. Last year, the Raiders got Antaaj Hawthorne in the 6th. Sure, he tested positive for pot at the combine, but the guy was supposed to be a first rounder.

It's not like these guys got any worse as football players between the end of the college season and the draft. They just have question marks.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

watch ramsey have a pro bowl year...he will be another desmond howard...he never had anything to work with here...give hime Randle-El, Lloyd, Moss, and Patten and see what ramsey could have done with that rocket arm... best of wishes pat...welcome j campbell!!!

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[quote=Skins4Eva]watch ramsey have a pro bowl year...he will be another desmond howard...he never had anything to work with here...give hime Randle-El, Lloyd, Moss, and Patten and see what ramsey could have done with that rocket arm... best of wishes pat...welcome j campbell!!![/quote]

He would have over thrown them, thrown picks and did a tap dance in the back field.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

How come the Jets give up nothing to aquire players and recieve the whole kit and kaboodle for thiers?

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[quote=EXoffender]How come the Jets give up nothing to aquire players and recieve the whole kit and kaboodle for thiers?[/quote]

Its like an NFL welfare program for the underachieving.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[quote=EXoffender]How come the Jets give up nothing to aquire players and recieve the whole kit and kaboodle for thiers?[/quote]
cause JA is really talented (though he's also very whiny).

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

The real reason the Jets always seem to get the most out of their deals is because they are smart enough only to work with us.

Re: Ramsey to the Jets
 

[quote=Monksdown]The real reason the Jets always seem to get the most out of their deals is because they are smart enough only to work with us.[/quote]Ouch!