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[quote=Giantone]I never said you "did'nt" have wepond just not the same ones and I noticed that people are still ignoring the learning factor of the O .
Cooly is the same as Gonzo ???????????? Ahhhh NO .

Portis to Holmes ...ahhhh NO to that to .

Over the last two years Brunell can't touch Green .

Last year no but I will give you the recieving core this year .[/quote]

And i guess you suppose that Sammy Parker, Dante Hall, and Eddie Kennison are all better than Moss, Randle El, and Lloyd. HAHAHAHA Just admit that you are scared.

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[quote=Giantone]I never said you "did'nt" have wepond just not the same ones and I noticed that people are still ignoring the learning factor of the O .
Cooly is the same as Gonzo ???????????? Ahhhh NO .

Portis to Holmes ...ahhhh NO to that to .

Over the last two years Brunell can't touch Green .

Last year no but I will give you the recieving core this year .[/quote]

Yep. Cooley is the same as Gonzo. Gonzo is on the tail end of his prime and Cooley is just entering his.

2005 Washington Redskins 16 16 7177410.93276044
2005 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 78 90511.63929045

Compare those stats. Cooley had only 110 yards less than Gonzo AND 5 more TDs. Let's also remember that Gonzo is their PRIMARY receiver because they have no one else. Cooley shared receptions with the second leading receiver in the league.

Brunell AGAIN is far superior to Green.

2005Washington Redskins161545426257.730506.7278231027/21336985.92005Kansas City Chiefs161650731762.540147.9260171032/204511190.1
Get all the yards you want, but TDs are where it counts. Also, playoff wins are where it counts. I won't deny that Brunell is HIGHLY ineffective when he's hurt, but Green couldn't hold Brunell's johnson when he's healthy.

And let's not even get started on the Portis and Holmes thing. It's ALMOST comparing apples to oranges because Holmes is like Gonzo, on his way out of his prime and Portis is just entering his. The jury is still out on that one, but you would have to come up with a pretty good argument to convince me that Holmes was/is better than Portis if Portis keeps up his current production.

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[quote=Giantone]I never said you "did'nt" have wepond just not the same ones and I noticed that people are still ignoring the learning factor of the O .
Cooly is the same as Gonzo ???????????? Ahhhh NO .

Portis to Holmes ...ahhhh NO to that to .

Over the last two years Brunell can't touch Green .

Last year no but I will give you the recieving core this year .[/quote]

Whoa, wait! Are we talking real football or Madden 2k5? If this is a video game discussion then I'm sorry, I misunderstood.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Yep. Cooley is the same as Gonzo. Gonzo is on the tail end of his prime and Cooley is just entering his.

2005 Washington Redskins 16 16 7177410.93276044
2005 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 78 90511.63929045

Compare those stats. Cooley had only 110 yards less than Gonzo AND 5 more TDs. Let's also remember that Gonzo is their PRIMARY receiver because they have no one else. Cooley shared receptions with the second leading receiver in the league.

Brunell AGAIN is far superior to Green.

2005Washington Redskins161545426257.730506.7278231027/21336985.92005Kansas City Chiefs161650731762.540147.9260171032/204511190.1
Get all the yards you want, but TDs are where it counts. Also, playoff wins are where it counts. I won't deny that Brunell is HIGHLY ineffective when he's hurt, but Green couldn't hold Brunell's johnson when he's healthy.

And let's not even get started on the Portis and Holmes thing. It's ALMOST comparing apples to oranges because Holmes is like Gonzo, on his way out of his prime and Portis is just entering his. The jury is still out on that one, but you would have to come up with a pretty good argument to convince me that Holmes was/is better than Portis if Portis keeps up his current production.[/quote]

Word up TMC i was gunna do have the same argument but im really tired and i havent got any coffee yet

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[quote=Giantone]I never said you "did'nt" have wepond just not the same ones and I noticed that people are still ignoring the learning factor of the O .
Cooly is the same as Gonzo ???????????? Ahhhh NO .

Portis to Holmes ...ahhhh NO to that to .

Over the last two years Brunell can't touch Green .

Last year no but I will give you the recieving core this year .[/quote]

You know what, I can't wait til the redskins play the giants. I believe that gibbs and company will be working overtime to avenge the only division loss last year. And honestly, I think the only reason you are talking sh*t ( or trying to anyway) is that you look at the skins offense and are more than a little worried because you see the same thing I see: an offense that was good enough last year to make and win in the playoffs, which got a whole lot better with wideout playmakers and offensive guru Saunders.

But don't worry, it will be all over soon enough (after the redskins wax the giants in both games).

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[quote=Giantone]Not a shot but I just don't think you guys have the same wepons as KC.Saunders needs a big back and noway is Burnell Trent Green.Saunders playoff record is also suspect .He did beat all the NFL East teams last season but one (lol).I just think that the'll be to much to learn in a new O for him to help the Skins .[/quote]They did not bring Saunders in to change the entire play book. They brought him in to enhance the playbook and give the skins some new looks. Why would the Skins change the entire O when what we had (which I will admit was inefective at times) a good O last year. Saunders will add plays here and there and will add some different looks to the plays already in the play book.

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Right. Giantone, I welcome any fan who wants to come here and have an informative discussion, but before you go spouting off at the mouth, put some facts behind it.

Just like anyone, I'll give credit where it's due and I'll readily admit the division is the Skins or Giants to lose. The Giants need more of a receiving threat and I think it'll take a season or two before Sinorice gets up to speed. Plaxico is alright, but he really does take plays off and whines like a little girl when the ball is thrown poorly. Eli will probably stay at the same production this year and Tiki will have another monster year.

Defense-wise, I think Arrington will make some big plays which will make you forget about the TRULY dumbass plays that he'll make most of the year. Pierce will be a monster again. Strahan is on the way out, another year older, another year slower, but he'll still be better then your average DE. Osi's year was a fluke I think due to the pressure put on by Strahan. I doubt he repeats again this year, but I still put them as the top DE duo in the division. The defensive line is still suspect and the CBs look to possibly have improved with the subtraction of Will Allen and signing of Sam Madison. For the Giants sake, I hope Madison isn't one of those old "Skins" signings where they signed a huge contract for a vet on the downslide (a la Bruce Smith).

Speaking purely objectively about the Redskins, the receiving corps as a whole instantly became better than any of them in the NFC East. Moss, second leading receiver in the league, Lloyd had comparatively big numbers for a TOTALLY shitty 49ers team. We all know about Randle El, and his numbers don't even speak to what he'll bring to the table because he played for a run-first team. Randle El instantly gives the Skins a dangerous return man and a trick play threat. Receiving-wise, I think the Giants are second behind the Skins with Shockey as a receiver and the Cowboys a VERY close third because we all know how good TO is (even though he has NO supporting cast). The Redskins offensive line will again be dominant in the running game, and basically the Skins will go as far as Brunell takes them. If he stays healthy, I can realistically see a 13-3 record or better. The defense has been elite the past two years and the Skins signed a number of playmakers on that side.

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Nicely done TMC.......it shouldn't be long now before Giantone responds by calling you "a ass" or making some stupid joke like asking you if he can substitute a shake for his coke.

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Thanks guys. I just get fired up when people come in and make sweeping statements without any type of evidence. I mean if you want to go on stats, go on stats and back them up. But don't just be like, "Cooley is no Gonzo." because instantly that's going to bring the question, "Why not?" which requires some proof and Cooley has only been in this league two years and is putting up almost the same numbers as Gonzo and not even being the featured receiver. Gonzo is THE only receiver on that team. Kennison is just the neighborhood whore and if Hall were that good, he'd be more than just a return man pretending he's a WR.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21]Nicely done TMC.......it shouldn't be long now before Giantone responds by calling you "a ass" or making some stupid joke like asking you if he can substitute a shake for his coke.[/quote]

haha ya or say whatever or something about how our receivers suck and we are biast skins fans.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Thanks guys. I just get fired up when people come in and make sweeping statements without any type of evidence. I mean if you want to go on stats, go on stats and back them up. But don't just be like, "Cooley is no Gonzo." because instantly that's going to bring the question, "Why not?" which requires some proof and Cooley has only been in this league two years and is putting up almost the same numbers as Gonzo and not even being the featured receiver. Gonzo is THE only receiver on that team. Kennison is just the neighborhood whore and if Hall were that good, he'd be more than just a return man pretending he's a WR.[/quote]

LOL: "Kennison is just the neighborhood whore and if Hall were that good, he'd be more than just a return man pretending he's a WR"..........nice

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I think all of us have a little homer in them, but I try to keep the Haterade to a minimum. The NFC East WILL be the most competitive conference in the league without a doubt and one key injury here or there could put a team in the basement for good.

For a quick review:

Washington Redskins - Just to elaborate a little bit more on the team, the offensive line has two of the best tackles in the game, one of the best guards, an improved center and let's hope Dockery continues to improve. The defensive line is beast with Griffin in the middle. I have this feeling Montgomery will be in a heavy rotation by the middle of the year.

Philadelphia Eagles - They worry me the most. They had a great draft and got some really great players. They might not be great this year, but give that line some time to gel and they'll be good (but fortunately for the rest of the division McNabb has only a few years left in him). Brown will continue to improve and be a pretty decent player. Basically, the Eagles season will hinge on if Reid wants to be a dumbass or not. It's ALL coaching this year.

Dallas Cowboys - Time will only tell if the offensive line will return healthy from those serious injuries it had. Both running backs are average at best and TO is the only WR of any quality on the team. Witten will again be one of their most reliable receiving threats with TO being double teamed. Just like Strahan and McNabb, Bledsoe is another year older and another year slower. The Cowboys REALLY should have invested in a QB unless they think Henson has improved enough in NFL Europe. The defense will be above average next year, but nothing special. Their defense is the most overhyped part of their team.

I've already elaborated on the Giants, so we'll leave it at that.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21]LOL: "Kennison is just the neighborhood whore and if Hall were that good, he'd be more than just a return man pretending he's a WR"..........nice[/quote]

Dude, I'm not even kidding. He has tattoos of all the teams that he's played for. That's like a slut getting a guy's name tattooed on her arm for every guy that's slung it to her.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I think all of us have a little homer in them, but I try to keep the Haterade to a minimum. The NFC East WILL be the most competitive conference in the league without a doubt and one key injury here or there could put a team in the basement for good.

For a quick review:

Washington Redskins - Just to elaborate a little bit more on the team, the offensive line has two of the best tackles in the game, one of the best guards, an improved center and let's hope Dockery continues to improve. The defensive line is beast with Griffin in the middle. I have this feeling Montgomery will be in a heavy rotation by the middle of the year.

Philadelphia Eagles - They worry me the most. They had a great draft and got some really great players. They might not be great this year, but give that line some time to gel and they'll be good (but fortunately for the rest of the division McNabb has only a few years left in him). Brown will continue to improve and be a pretty decent player. Basically, the Eagles season will hinge on if Reid wants to be a dumbass or not. It's ALL coaching this year.

Dallas Cowboys - Time will only tell if the offensive line will return healthy from those serious injuries it had. Both running backs are average at best and TO is the only WR of any quality on the team. Witten will again be one of their most reliable receiving threats with TO being double teamed. Just like Strahan and McNabb, Bledsoe is another year older and another year slower. The Cowboys REALLY should have invested in a QB unless they think Henson has improved enough in NFL Europe. The defense will be above average next year, but nothing special. Their defense is the most overhyped part of their team.

I've already elaborated on the Giants, so we'll leave it at that.[/quote]

I agree overall, a couple of key injuries may be the difference. Glenn is still pretty decent for the pokes, he'll burn us if ST bites, though if ST stays at home he can scare Glenn into some drops. If Dallas' O line can play like they did early last year, they'll be tough.
Philly still has a solid core roster, you just have to wonder what the real personality of the team is. Will last year's mess linger? or will McNabb & other vets take charge as the team's leaders & bring back their winning ways? Its tough to predict our division, but I wouldn't be surprised if the cellar team finishes 8-8.

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Honestly, I see the Eagles improving to 8-8 or 9-7. They'll need some time to gel and Westbrook and McNabb are their only stars left. The rest of the defense is aging. We can at least look forward to having a young(ish) team.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I think all of us have a little homer in them, but I try to keep the Haterade to a minimum. The NFC East WILL be the most competitive conference in the league without a doubt and one key injury here or there could put a team in the basement for good.

For a quick review:

Washington Redskins - Just to elaborate a little bit more on the team, the offensive line has two of the best tackles in the game, one of the best guards, an improved center and let's hope Dockery continues to improve. The defensive line is beast with Griffin in the middle. I have this feeling Montgomery will be in a heavy rotation by the middle of the year.

Philadelphia Eagles - They worry me the most. They had a great draft and got some really great players. They might not be great this year, but give that line some time to gel and they'll be good (but fortunately for the rest of the division McNabb has only a few years left in him). Brown will continue to improve and be a pretty decent player. Basically, the Eagles season will hinge on if Reid wants to be a dumbass or not. It's ALL coaching this year.

Dallas Cowboys - Time will only tell if the offensive line will return healthy from those serious injuries it had. Both running backs are average at best and TO is the only WR of any quality on the team. Witten will again be one of their most reliable receiving threats with TO being double teamed. Just like Strahan and McNabb, Bledsoe is another year older and another year slower. The Cowboys REALLY should have invested in a QB unless they think Henson has improved enough in NFL Europe. The defense will be above average next year, but nothing special. Their defense is the most overhyped part of their team.


I've already elaborated on the Giants, so we'll leave it at that.[/quote]

Good re-cap, Malc. The only thing that worries me about the Cowboys is that T.O.'s presence immediately makes life easier for Glenn and co. And one on one Glenn 'aint half bad. And we've seen what Witten can do after the catch. He's very capable!

On defense they have a couple of guys who could be dangerous too.

All in all I think all of these teams are separated by one or two games.

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Honestly, I don't see Witten run a lot after the catch. I don't know what it is about him, but he ALWAYS seems open and has loads of room to run, but he goes down like a ton of bricks. It's all good though. I give it 5-6 games before TO is a distraction. Even though this year he might play nice. We'll see.

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Anyone see Lavar's interview on Quite Frankly on ESPN. Its now on ESPN Motion check it out.

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yup, the most significant thing he said was: that he covered for gibbs. When Stephen A. Smith asked him how, he responded by saying he is still in the nfl. I guess implying that he would get himself in trouble or rock the boat by elaborating.

He needs to get off the microphone and do something with the giants before he starts talking again.

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[quote=warriorzpath]yup, the most significant thing he said was: that he covered for gibbs. When Stephen A. Smith asked him how, he responded by saying he is still in the nfl. I guess implying that he would get himself in trouble or rock the boat by elaborating.

He needs to get off the microphone and do something with the giants before he starts talking again.[/quote]

Exactly, but thats wut you get in NY a nice podium for you to say whatever you want. He really looks like crap though you think hes been hangin with Ricky Williams??

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[quote=dirthogs311]He really looks like crap though you think hes been hangin with Ricky Williams??[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing (he looks like crap) - he just doesn't seem like the same lavar before he got injured.

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[quote=dirthogs311]Exactly, but thats wut you get in NY a nice podium for you to say whatever you want.[/quote]

I know it's new york, but it's also Lavar wanting the attention, which at this point is undeserving. To me, when you start off somewhere you start off humble and then prove yourself - and THEN you can talk - but until then just work your butt off.

As a comparison, look at Ramsey handling himself so far in New York. I can always respect someone that HAS respect for others.

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My uncle is an orthopedic surgeon and has spoken with some people close w/ lavar.

According to him his knee can never be 100%. He implied that most athletes of his age, w/ the severity of his injury don't rebound. Just another little tid-bit.
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also another quick question. I remember hearing a while back that he wasn't disclosing records about his surgery or something. Am I just making things up, or was there any legitimacy to that? Thanks-

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]who was the best catwoman?[/QUOTE]


Eartha Kitt had a mysterious quality..................very cat like.............and a bit more spirit of villany than the others.............

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[QUOTE=warriorzpath]yup, the most significant thing he said was: that he covered for gibbs. When Stephen A. Smith asked him how, he responded by saying he is still in the nfl. I guess implying that he would get himself in trouble or rock the boat by elaborating.

He needs to get off the microphone and do something with the giants before he starts talking again.[/QUOTE]

Next thing you will hear is that he covered for Joe Pa too :rolleyes:

Beware of the Redskin curse LaVar just ask Antonio Pierce and Fred Smoot how it all worked out last year.............

I hope we sweep dem Gints...............

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[QUOTE=warriorzpath]I know it's new york, but it's also Lavar wanting the attention, which at this point is undeserving. To me, when you start off somewhere you start off humble and then prove yourself - and THEN you can talk - but until then just work your butt off.

As a comparison, look at Ramsey handling himself so far in New York. I can always respect someone that HAS respect for others.[/QUOTE]

Ditto I have a great deal of respect for Ramsey.....and I wish him the best with the Jets.......I was glad the Jets didnt draft Matt, giving Ramsey a shot at the starting job, since he's behind the oft injured Pennington...........

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As for the Boyz.........Parcells is already tired of the media asking about T.O. said he won't answer anymore questions about him until July.........
I think that T.O. won't cross Parcells path.....but he will get on Bledsoe's case when he doesn't get the ball enough...........

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Right. Giantone, I welcome any fan who wants to come here and have an informative discussion, but before you go spouting off at the mouth, put some facts behind it.

Just like anyone, I'll give credit where it's due and I'll readily admit the division is the Skins or Giants to lose. The Giants need more of a receiving threat and I think it'll take a season or two before Sinorice gets up to speed. Plaxico is alright, but he really does take plays off and whines like a little girl when the ball is thrown poorly. Eli will probably stay at the same production this year and Tiki will have another monster year.

Defense-wise, I think Arrington will make some big plays which will make you forget about the TRULY dumbass plays that he'll make most of the year. Pierce will be a monster again. Strahan is on the way out, another year older, another year slower, but he'll still be better then your average DE. Osi's year was a fluke I think due to the pressure put on by Strahan. I doubt he repeats again this year, but I still put them as the top DE duo in the division. The defensive line is still suspect and the CBs look to possibly have improved with the subtraction of Will Allen and signing of Sam Madison. For the Giants sake, I hope Madison isn't one of those old "Skins" signings where they signed a huge contract for a vet on the downslide (a la Bruce Smith).

Speaking purely objectively about the Redskins, the receiving corps as a whole instantly became better than any of them in the NFC East. Moss, second leading receiver in the league, Lloyd had comparatively big numbers for a TOTALLY shitty 49ers team. We all know about Randle El, and his numbers don't even speak to what he'll bring to the table because he played for a run-first team. Randle El instantly gives the Skins a dangerous return man and a trick play threat. Receiving-wise, I think the Giants are second behind the Skins with Shockey as a receiver and the Cowboys a VERY close third because we all know how good TO is (even though he has NO supporting cast). The Redskins offensive line will again be dominant in the running game, and basically the Skins will go as far as Brunell takes them. If he stays healthy, I can realistically see a 13-3 record or better. The defense has been elite the past two years and the Skins signed a number of playmakers on that side.[/quote]


TMC your all mouth and no substance all you voice is opinion which is fine but don't pass it off as fact .



These are facts ....

[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12400[/url]


[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/492912[/url]

..untill Cooly puts up the consistant #'s and probowls don't open your mouth .

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh MY, don't be fucking coming on HERE and telling ME ANY type of shit. You want consistency, you would think that Cooley has more than proven it so far. I try REALLY hard to not get fired up about football, but someone calling me out like this fucking deserves it. First off, learn how to fucking spell CoolEy, next off, where the fuck did this come from? Cooley would have made Pro Bowls in both years had he not been listed as an "H-Back". If you are all about subtance, you would know this. He's listed as a FULLBACK. Good lookin' out chief. Next off, I would think that I made it adamantly clear my point anyway. Gonzo was the FIRST RECEIVING OPTION FOR THE CHIEFS, Cooley was not. Cooley had far more TDs last year than Gonzo. Cooley also ranked just a few yards lower than the other two "Pro Bowl" candidates of this year and had just as many if not more TDs than all other TEs except for Gates, ALSO a first receiving option for San Diego.

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=rec&league=nfl&season=2&year=2005[/url]

So don't come in here and call me out on shit like that. Do not EVER fucking tell me to not open my mouth.

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LOL. What a way to start a Monday. Getting called out by a holier-than-thou Giants fan.

And Giantone, you USED to be cool.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]LOL. What a way to start a Monday. Getting called out by a holier-than-thou Giants fan.

And Giantone, you USED to be cool.[/quote]

Who called who out Rocky? Look all I said in a post is that you (the Redskins ) did'nt have the same wepons as a matter of fact I said you had the better recievers ,at no point did I attack Cooly he is no Gonzo and untill he's in the pro bowl as a tight end not some made up position like "H back"then he won't be !

Aagin take your opinion and file it ,cause nobody cares .

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[quote=Giantone]Who called who out Rocky? Look all I said in a post is that you (the Redskins ) did'nt have the same wepons as a matter of fact I said you had the better recievers ,at no point did I attack Cooly he is no Gonzo and untill he's in the pro bowl as a tight end not some made up position like "H back"then he won't be !
[B]
Aagin take your opinion and file it ,cause nobody cares.[/B][/quote]

Anybody else care what I think?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]Anybody else care what I think?[/quote]

Not really, you both are a couple of tools.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Anybody else care what I think?[/QUOTE]
You know, the funniest thing about Giantone is that everyone but his opinion is false because no facts are involved, yet his own factless opinions are the end all for this discussion. If you don't believe me, just ask him, he'll tell you.


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[quote=#56fanatic]Not really, you both are a couple of tools.[/quote]

I <3 you.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Not really, you both are a couple of tools.[/QUOTE]
In the land of tools, you're the one that every other tool shuns as just another tool.

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[quote=#56fanatic]Not really, you both are a couple of tools.[/quote]

LaVar sucks. :biggthump

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[quote=cpayne5]In the land of tools, you're the one that every other tool shuns as just another tool.[/quote]

HAHA! The venom is ever potent in here today.

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[quote=#56fanatic]Not really, you both are a couple of tools.[/quote]

Just kidding! One a serious note. KC did had the explosive offense with lesser personel. Portis I believe is a better back that Priest(which most redskin fans may agree) Our receivers are definately better. The only area of concern is the QB position. TE is a toss up. I think Cooley has as good of hands as any TE in the NFL. He lacks the experience of finding open spots on the field, which Gonzales was really good at. Back to the QB, I actually believe Brunell will be more effective this year than last, and be a little more rested towards the end of the year. That is of course, if the team picks up this offense and runs it smoothly. We have the pieces to be an AWESOME offense.

Giants - the D has upgraded, no doubt. LaVar, Madison, Demps,Uminori(whatever) another year, RW. But in the playoffs last year, it was your O that gave up. No additions there. Barber is getting older. You do have Eli, who should be better, shockey of course, plaxico, but not another good target. Moss may help later in the year, but not immediately. Toomer is getting old too. Offensive line will probably be solid.

I believe we will beat the G-mens ass twice, thats my opinion, but who really cares.