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Heart? I didn't hear one player bad mouth their team, teammates, or the coaches. There is room for hope.

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There's plenty of crappy teams who don't bad mouth each other. I did hear on the radio that a lot of fingers are being pointed Holdman's way as being out of position.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;229243]There's plenty of crappy teams who don't bad mouth each other. I did hear on the radio that a lot of fingers are being pointed Holdman's way as being out of position.[/quote]

is that the players and coaches saying that or the hosts and callers?

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I think we're done because of our schedule, and the fact that other teams in our division are better than us (we get no free passes in our diision, even at home).

The key problem is the D. Last year, we were all like, hey, if we socre 21 points, we win. Not this year. What in the world happened? 160+ yards to the Titans on the ground? Long drive after long drive against a rookie QB? No TOs? The offense is a work in progress. I think Brunell is done, and that we need to see Campbell, at the very least so we can find out if we even have a QB there. But the D is fundamentally messed up. You cannot win without defense. That is a rule in all sports. And, sad to say, we have no defense. We look like a practice squad out there, the way teams easily mve the ball up and down the field on us. It's pathetic.

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[quote=Tom-Tom;229237]I'd like to think of myself as "cautiosly optomistic". if we go to Indy and "run the ball" we'll win the game. Am I making this too simple?[/quote]

We will & we'll beat indy, that's my gut feeling. Read T. Boswell in the WP today, he quotes a couple anonymous players who say we need to get back to running. Gibbs will direct Al to do so.

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[quote=dall-assblows;229245]is that the players and coaches saying that or the hosts and callers?[/quote]

It was a few players on condition of anonymity.

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AS much as I want to beat Indy, it make no REAL difference as we are not going to be a threat to any serious contender. I don't want to make a show of anything. I want to be a THREAT or be making moves to accomplish that. Time to accept what is, and plan to make repairs so we can be proud of the Skins and NOT feel like this. Evaluate what we have, who produces, who does not, and get a game plan for the offseason to execute the necessary changes. Something we have not done well lately.............execute. GET THE FUTURE STARTED (as the present sucks) get JC in the game, right after the bye

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As Dandy Don used to sing on Monday night Football.

'Turn out the lights, the party's over'.

This season is history, start Campbell now, we need to see if he can play and 10 games should tell us. Playoffs again in 2008 is possible. This year and next are long gone.

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There is a small light of optimism inside of me that does believe that the Skins will get it together and make this works.... a very small part.....

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2-4 is pretty damn bleak. Especially the way the game went yesterday. However, it's really not time to throw in the towel just yet...

With 10 games left, and the bye week, the team can make the necessary adjustments to turn this train around. No one will disagree that the talent is there, as that seems to be a running theme among the threads. Is Brunell the answer? Not sure, but if I had the option between a veteran QB who has been successful vs. a 2nd year kid vs. a journeyman 2nd string, I'll take the Vet. While 2-4 seems like a huge hole to get out of, it ain't over til it's over.

The defense has to really step up and be more disciplined. Travis Henry should never ever have the type of day he had against a good defense. Springs needs to come back desperately, but I'm not sure that's enough to turn the D ship around.

Indy coming off a bye week will only make matters worse, as they are rested and ready. Their run offense is starting to come around, and Stokley should be healed and added to their stellar air attack. Their defense is vulnerable, and hopefully Al Saunders will take advantage of it.

Bottom line is the Skins will limp into the bye week with a lot on their plate in terms of things they need to do in order to right the ship. But, if there's one man I'd want to be there, it's Joe Gibbs. I still trust him to get his act together and get these guys running on the same page. The talent is there, and the execution, while stagnant yesterday, has been seen this year. These players, and this coaching staff, really needs to dig deep and show us fans that they want to bring home a winner.

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But, if there's one man I'd want to be there, it's Joe Gibbs. I still trust him to get his act together and get these guys running on the same page.

YAY!! TRUST IN GIBBS!!!!!!!!!! :)

.. (I'm trying..)

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is it possible? yes. is it likely? no.

god it's going to be a long season

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i certainly agree on it being a long season. it felt really long last year when the Skins were 5-6. while i don't expect a miracle, stranger things have happened.

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[quote=Randoid Jenkins;228837]rogers is a #2 corner at best[/quote]

I coud NOT agree more. I cannot STAND that guy. GET RID OF HIM. He sits back and waits for the O receiver to come to him. He doesn't go for the ball, he doesn't try to intercept.. he just sits and lets the o guy decide what he's doing then he tries to tackle the guy... GRRRRRRRR! GET RID OF HIM!

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;229309]I coud NOT agree more. I cannot STAND that guy. GET RID OF HIM. He sits back and waits for the O receiver to come to him. He doesn't go for the ball, he doesn't try to intercept.. he just sits and lets the o guy decide what he's doing then he tries to tackle the guy... GRRRRRRRR! GET RID OF HIM![/QUOTE]

That and even when he does jump the route he can't catch...

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I don't know about Rogers. If anything, he's been playing decent and at least is good against the run. He's had a couple of bonehead plays, but that's better than most of the corners in the league can say.

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I think Rogers is a decent cover guy as long as a great one is on the other side and you have 2 guys who can cover/make plays on the ball over the top. There was a lot more help for corners in the passing game last year before they signed a linebacker to play strong safety...

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Remember the Chargers! 0-4 in 1992, finished 11-5 with a playoff win

Season is far from over

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If we drop to 2-5 next week the season is pretty much done for me. If that happens and we don't get Campbell ready to play after the bye, I'll really be scratching my head. The season hinges on beating the Colts.

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[quote=TAFKAS;229398]Remember the Chargers! 0-4 in 1992, finished 11-5 with a playoff win

Season is far from over[/quote]

Excellent example but, then they showed signs of a change and we, show no such drive. I read an artivcle that said Snyder was meddling in team affairs again, and THAT aint good....

I think the best chance we have to win ANYTIME in the near future is Joe Gibbs and his staff...maybe there are a few smaller assisitant coaches that could change places (hint, hint), but if Joe or mr. Saunders goes, we are fucked. Royally. Wanna end up like the raiders are now? Old head coach, has noting left in him, no TRUE team talent, and NOT A FUCKING WIN YET! And they probably wont get one ANY time this year till sum1 gives em 1....

I think we just have to believe in Joe....and get rid of some of the slackers...if we lose the next 3-5 games....its time to say fuck this season and look to the future and find out what's up with JC NOW!

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[quote=Mattyk72;229402]If we drop to 2-5 next week the season is pretty much done for me. If that happens and we don't get Campbell ready to play after the bye, I'll really be scratching my head. The season hinges on beating the Colts.[/quote]


Thats about the exact way I feel about the enitre situation. To say that the season is salvagable if Indy beats us is ludicrous( not the rapper)
. We definitly need to look ahead to the future and prepare as best we can for it....

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;229415]Excellent example but, then they showed signs of a change and we, show no such drive. I read an artivcle that said Snyder was meddling in team affairs again, and THAT aint good....

I think the best chance we have to win ANYTIME in the near future is Joe Gibbs and his staff...maybe there are a few smaller assisitant coaches that could change places (hint, hint), but if Joe or mr. Saunders goes, we are fucked. Royally. Wanna end up like the raiders are now? Old head coach, has noting left in him, no TRUE team talent, and NOT A FUCKING WIN YET! And they probably wont get one ANY time this year till sum1 gives em 1....

I think we just have to believe in Joe....and get rid of some of the slackers...if we lose the next 3-5 games....its time to say fuck this season and look to the future and find out what's up with JC NOW![/quote]

... What I saw yesterday.... it's over, IF we don't regroup and get our acts together.... :(

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;229415]Excellent example but, then they showed signs of a change and we, show no such drive. I read an artivcle that said Snyder was meddling in team affairs again, and THAT aint good....[/quote]

I'd love to see this article and who wrote it.

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[quote=hesscl34;229424]... What I saw yesterday.... it's over, IF we don't regroup and get our acts together.... :([/quote]

Regrouping isnt the word.....maybe, REVITALIZING a dead defense and our "run heavy oh wait fuck that, let Brunell just HOCK it offense"

What i saw yesterday made me sick...truly...i threw up it hurt so much.....

:censored::censored:

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i think its on the main page on the top left corner where the news articles are....its in the bottom of one of the top 4...

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WASHINGTON - Washington coach Joe Gibbs is in the bunker mode.

Stealing a passage from Ben Franklin’s motto of “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately,” Gibbs lamented the entire team was responsible for the 25-22 loss to previously-winless Tennessee on Sunday down to the parking attendants who let the Titans bus into FedEx Field.

The offense was practically non-existent over the final three quarters after taking a 14-0 on its first two possessions. The defense let a rookie quarterback beat them in the final minutes. Special teams permitted a blocked punt for a a safety.

Sounds like predecessor coach Norv Turner talking about all three phases and that’s not a good thing.

Washington travels to unbeaten Indianapolis on Sunday. Chances are that’s a loss as the Redskins enter the bye 2-5. The season looks trashed even if the team won’t admit it.

“You can’t, at 2-4, think this thing is a lost cause,” quarterback Mark Brunell said, “because the second you do that you’re in trouble.”

Mark — there’s trouble in the capital city. It starts with T and that stands for taxes (sorry, local version). The team isn’t making the playoffs barring a dramatic turnaround. Brunell could be headed into retirement with Gibbs on his heels.

The whispers around the team say owner Dan Snyder is meddling again. Telling coaches they’re not worth their big salaries. That really bodes badly because if the owner gets his paws on the helm the franchise will surely crash and burn.

The faces of players in the locker room revealed all. It was more than frustration. It was resignation. They’ve seen potential fade quickly in the past. After six games, the team is what it is and there’s no help coming.

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Mr. Snyder, as much as I lovge you buddy, saty the FUCK out of matteers that you are a dunce in...just sign the checks and pray like the rest of us....

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;229402]If we drop to 2-5 next week the season is pretty much done for me. If that happens and we don't get Campbell ready to play after the bye, I'll really be scratching my head. The season hinges on beating the Colts.[/QUOTE]

It's pretty bleak when the season hinges on beating arguably one of the best football teams of that past few years and somehow figuring out how to stop one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game.

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If Danny is meddling, we should get the villagers together and take our torches and pitchforks over the Redskins Park and lynch him. That said, I doubt he's dumb enough to meddle again.

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[quote=Mattyk72;229402]If we drop to 2-5 next week the season is pretty much done for me. If that happens and we don't get Campbell ready to play after the bye, I'll really be scratching my head. The season hinges on beating the Colts.[/quote]Well, no, the season hinges on a huge surge after the bye. Win or lose here vs. Indy, the disappointment of this start will be a distant memory come Dallas week post-bye.

A win would go a long way to shutting some people up around the league and here though. But I think its the least crucial game remaining on the schedule.

We were 5-6 last year so 2-5 could easily become 5-6 if not 6-5, if the defense plays like a NFL defense finally.

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"I view Washington as a threat, everybody has them in the coffin, but I know Joe Gibbs, he'll get them back."

Bill Parcells press conference today.

Indy can't stop the run.

You have CP.

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Neither Could the Titans! HAILfrom MCUSA!

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No the season is not over. We all know we never expected to beet the Colts. Now we have too. So if we beet the colts, we are right back in it.

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its not over till we have 7 loses and untill then we still got a chance.. stop all this negative attitude>> yes brunell sucks and i Hate him but gibbs will be gibbs and he has turned a team around before.. Yes we have a tough schedule but lets take it one game at a time and see if the skins cant get a wild card spot....MAybe im beeing way to optimistic but fu*& that its not over till its over and we can still do this, granted we neeed a mircle
LETS GO GUYS LETS TURN IT AROUND AND DO SOMEHTING ITS NOT OVER YET

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[quote=Crat92;229903]Neither Could the Titans! HAILfrom MCUSA![/quote]
no offense or anything... but why don't you just put HAIL from MCUSA! in your signature...

it will prevent you from developing carpal tunnel to early...

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[quote=RobH4413;230578]no offense or anything... but why don't you just put HAIL from MCUSA! in your signature...

it will prevent you from developing carpal tunnel to early...[/quote]
I was going to say the same thing. It reads like he has teretts or something.

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some of u guys are insane. i cant believe u call yourselves fans. do u people forget we have joe gibbs. joe gibbs always finds a way to win whether its in the nfl or nascar and this season is no different. was the season over last year when we were 5-6? this week we get back to the basics and run all over the colts. Brunell has a great game cuz he knows his job is on the line. we saw te cardinals almost beat the bears last night so we can beat the colts. we know what our defense can do and i think g.williams will get it fixed. and we know what our offense can do when we run the football. i still think we have a very good team we just gotta get it together and i think we will.

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we will make the playoffs. it will happen. joe gibbs knows how to fix things.

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[quote=5RINGS;229740]"I view Washington as a threat, everybody has them in the coffin, but I know Joe Gibbs, he'll get them back."

Bill Parcells press conference today.

Indy can't stop the run.

You have CP.[/quote]

How sweet

but i sure hope so

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Well I know when the Reskins were 5-6 last season I had already put a fork in them.

I for one, do not make the same mistakes twice. If the Redskins are mathematically in it, then they always make a late season run.