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[QUOTE=Blue Star;264560]there both are causing distractions but ones produced and the other has well regressed

the 10 million dollar signing bonus of TO came with 70+ catches, 12 TDs, and 1000+ yards with two games missed worked out ok, could of been better.

the 10 million dollar signing bonus of archuleta got you blow coverage, missed tackles, 1 pass defended, and 1 sack and a hitter for special teams, which worked out terrible.[/QUOTE]

It hurts because he's right...

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[QUOTE=Bill B;264564]don't forget the one punt that was blocked because he blew an assignment![/QUOTE]

Are you talking about the blocked FG? I think that was Jason Witten.

Maybe I'm confused...

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[quote=mheisig;264573]Are you talking about the blocked FG? I think that was Jason Witten.

Maybe I'm confused...[/quote]

No I was referring to the coverage missed by Archuletta against the Panthers....
"The first blocked punt came near the end of the half. [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/420650"][COLOR=#001a79]Adam Seward[/COLOR][/URL] got a hand on [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396807"][COLOR=#001a79]Derrick Frost[/COLOR][/URL] 's attempt, setting up a 51-yard field goal by [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1379"][COLOR=#001a79]John Kasay[/COLOR][/URL] that gave Carolina a 6-3 lead."
[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20061126_CAR@WAS]NFL.com - Carolina at Washington Game Recap[/url]

Seward was Archulettas responsibility on the punt.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;264568]Hows that liquored up kicker FA acquisition doing for you guys. Wait.. I just remembered.[/quote]

Dallas cuts losers quick.

How many touchdowns does Brandon Llyod have along with spectacular catches that made Washington sign him?

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I think Arch may have been screwed, but there has to be some concrete reason. He mentions in the article he thinks he knows what it is or was, but doesn't elaborate. I have a new theory about Arch and I'm not sure if anybody said this yet. I think the guy could be a prime suspect if you were doing an investigation into who is using undetectable steroids such as HGH in the NFL. The NFL steroid poilicy has been a joke forever, but over the last year and a half the heat has officially been turned on. It's not so hot that guys aren't using, but I would bet many have stopped juicing because the time was right for them. In Arch's case he was going to get a big payday. So he stopd using and his elite speed completely vanishes. That's the one thing I noticed about him that seemed strange. He looked pretty slow and remember this guy at one time was really really nfl fast. How does that happen and don't tell me it's his stiff hips. Just a theory, but the guy has always been a workout warrior and that is a word that means buyer beware. Those are the types of players who have a history of a complete drop off in play and ability. Just a theory, but I can't understand how someone can get so bad so fast in the middle of their prime. It doesn't make scientific sense unless it's all about science in the first place and the guy has been hooked up with the right kind of trainer if you know what I mean.

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[quote=Bill B;264578]No I was referring to the coverage missed by Archuletta against the Panthers....
"The first blocked punt came near the end of the half. [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/420650"][COLOR=#001a79]Adam Seward[/COLOR][/URL] got a hand on [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396807"][COLOR=#001a79]Derrick Frost[/COLOR][/URL] 's attempt, setting up a 51-yard field goal by [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1379"][COLOR=#001a79]John Kasay[/COLOR][/URL] that gave Carolina a 6-3 lead."
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20061126_CAR@WAS"]NFL.com - Carolina at Washington Game Recap[/URL]

Seward was Archulettas responsibility on the punt.[/quote]

I thought he was using sarcasm. Witten never should be blocking on a FG since hes not a good blocker at all.

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[quote=Bill B;264578]No I was referring to the coverage missed by Archuletta against the Panthers....
"The first blocked punt came near the end of the half. [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/420650"][COLOR=#001a79]Adam Seward[/COLOR][/URL] got a hand on [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396807"][COLOR=#001a79]Derrick Frost[/COLOR][/URL] 's attempt, setting up a 51-yard field goal by [URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1379"][COLOR=#001a79]John Kasay[/COLOR][/URL] that gave Carolina a 6-3 lead."
[URL="http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap/NFL_20061126_CAR@WAS"]NFL.com - Carolina at Washington Game Recap[/URL]

Seward was Archulettas responsibility on the punt.[/quote]On Comcast after that game, Sellers took responsibility for that play. Who was realy at fault? I dont like to go back and watch those types of plays over again, they were hard enough to watch when they happen.

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choking on a splinter

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;264581]I think Arch may have been screwed, but there has to be some concrete reason. He mentions in the article he thinks he knows what it is or was, but doesn't elaborate. I have a new theory about Arch and I'm not sure if anybody said this yet. I think the guy could be a prime suspect if you were doing an investigation into who is using undetectable steroids such as HGH in the NFL. The NFL steroid poilicy has been a joke forever, but over the last year and a half the heat has officially been turned on. It's not so hot that guys aren't using, but I would bet many have stopped juicing because the time was right for them. In Arch's case he was going to get a big payday. So he stopd using and his elite speed completely vanishes. That's the one thing I noticed about him that seemed strange. He looked pretty slow and remember this guy at one time was really really nfl fast. How does that happen and don't tell me it's his stiff hips. Just a theory, but the guy has always been a workout warrior and that is a word that means buyer beware. Those are the types of players who have a history of a complete drop off in play and ability. Just a theory, but I can't understand how someone can get so bad so fast in the middle of their prime. It doesn't make scientific sense unless it's all about science in the first place and the guy has been hooked up with the right kind of trainer if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

No way, what happened was he slept with Greg Williams' wife. That's why he was benched. I don't have any evidence or anything, but it sure would explain a lot.

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[QUOTE=Blue Star;264582]I thought he was using sarcasm. Witten never should be blocking on a FG since hes not a good blocker at all.[/QUOTE]

Well he was. And Troy Vincent blew by him because Witten was too busy celebrating his big catch the play before. Leading to the blocked FG attempted by Vanderjagt. And the Skins go on to win the game.

But that's not really relevant here since that wasn't what Bill B was referring to.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;264583]On Comcast after that game, Sellers took responsibility for that play. Who was realy at fault? I dont like to go back and watch those types of plays over again, they were hard enough to watch when they happen.[/quote]

I thought Archie was but not worth going into - Archie will be gone after this season IMO - what sucks is once we cut him the 08 dead cap is going to have $7 million just because of him - I guess there will be more contract restructuring in 08 to deal with the cap.

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[quote=12thMan;264489]Why does it seem like he makes it a point to send a message to the stars though? That's just the feeling I get. It's almost like he want's everyone to know who's in charge.

These guys just want to play football.[/quote]



DING DING DING!!! WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS!!!

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[QUOTE=mheisig;264387]AA proved his worth early on: pretty useless. I have no question he doesn't belong on this team, but once again we have a disgruntled player leaving the organization pissed off.

What the hell is with the management of this team that we seem to have more pissed players up and leave or get fired than any other team I'm aware of? Is it just because I follow the Redskins a lot closer than other teams, or does this team genuinely screw people over season after season?

I'm not arguing that AA should play or that he's good, I'm just wondering in general why these situations happen so freakin' often to this team.[/QUOTE]

It happens all around the NFL. You just notice it more because you pay closer attention to the Redskins

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[quote=Blue Star;264579]Dallas cuts losers quick.

How many touchdowns does Brandon Llyod have along with spectacular catches that made Washington sign him?[/quote]

245

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[quote=Blue Star;264579]Dallas cuts losers quick.

How many touchdowns does Brandon Llyod have along with spectacular catches that made Washington sign him?[/quote]

Blue Star are you sure that you are not a closet 'Skins fan. I have been reading your post and you have better knowledge of the Redskins than you do the Cowboys. If you stay on here a wee bit longer I think that we can get you converted

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[QUOTE=12thMan;264489]Why does it seem like he makes it a point to send a message to the stars though? That's just the feeling I get. It's almost like he want's everyone to know who's in charge.

These guys just want to play football.[/QUOTE]

But a lot of coaches do that. Parcells used to do it to Simms (from what I recall). If Williams starts chewing out Anthony Montgomery then the general feeling is "ok, whatever. He's just chewing out the rookie" But if he starts laying into someone the caliber of Griff, suddenly others would (should) stand up and take notice.

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[quote=TAFKAS;264614]But a lot of coaches do that. Parcells used to do it to Simms (from what I recall). If Williams starts chewing out Anthony Montgomery then the general feeling is "ok, whatever. He's just chewing out the rookie" But if he starts laying into someone the caliber of Griff, suddenly others would (should) stand up and take notice.[/quote]


Naw, I'm not talking about chewing someone out, pe se. That's cool, and maybe they need more of that Redskins Park. In fact, if they were even chewing AA out maybe he would at least know where he stood with all of this.

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[quote=celts32;264565]He's right in a way...if the coaching staff has really been ignoring him like he says then that's pretty childish. Just look him in the eye like a man and tell him why he is not playing. I mean they have half a season of documented proof why he was benched. There was just no need for the childish were not talking to you attitude. Either way he's gone...it's just a matter of how they do it and how big the cap hit is.[/quote]

what in the world are you talking about? childish? come on you can't be serious! do want GW to sit AA down, give him some milk and cookies and then explain to him why it is he's not playing?
if your told over and over and over and over how to play your assignment but you continually screw your assignment up, then your going to be benched. there is no reason for an explanation. the proof is in the pudding.

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[quote=djnemo65;264587]No way, what happened was he slept with Greg Williams' wife. That's why he was benched. I don't have any evidence or anything, but it sure would explain a lot.[/quote]

Best theory I've seen offered yet.

JLC's interview/story today on WashPost offers more explanation, though I'm sure 90% of the people in this thread are just going to say "happy trails loser!!111" and discount the whole thing.

The bottom line for Arch is, he feels that he has been blackballed here, and that because of it, his career is going to suffer for it. I know most here would probably relish that thought, but I think it sucks, reflects poorly on our organization, and will come back and bite us in the ass (if this kind of karma hasn't already).

The article also adds further validation to my earlier claim that the current players on the team are quite aware of how Arch is getting screwed and aren't really happy with it, either.

This is NOT how you run a class organization.

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[quote=wolfeskins;264618]what in the world are you talking about? childish? come on you can't be serious! do want GW to sit AA down, give him some milk and cookies and then explain to him why it is he's not playing?
if your told over and over and over and over how to play your assignment but you continually screw your assignment up, then your going to be benched. there is no reason for an explanation. the proof is in the pudding.[/quote]

I don't see any evidence that he was told "over and over and over" anything. But I'm sure AA is just flat out lying, and our esteemed, even-tempered, player's coach GGrilliamss is just taking the high road.

[quote=WashPost story]
Archuleta said he would prefer that coaches tell him he needed to improve his pass coverage or that his overall play has been poor, rather than be ignored. The coaches pulled him out of the starting lineup during a practice about two months ago, without giving him a reason, according to team sources who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity regarding Archuleta's status with the franchise.

Archuleta said he has felt like an outcast since. "They haven't said anything to me," Archuleta said of the defensive staff.
Archuleta said he did have a 10-minute meeting with Coach Joe Gibbs around the time of his benching, but he has had no recent conversations with Gregg Williams, assistant head coach-defense.

"I talked to Coach Gibbs briefly, and he told me to keep busting my butt and to fight through it, which is fair," Archuleta said. "He pulled me in to try to boost my confidence earlier in the season, which I appreciated."
[/quote]

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[quote=dgack;264626]I don't see any evidence that he was told "over and over and over" anything. But I'm sure AA is just flat out lying, and our esteemed, even-tempered, player's coach GGrilliamss is just taking the high road.[/quote]



uummm....it's called practice.

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[quote=dgack;264622]Best theory I've seen offered yet.

JLC's interview/story today on WashPost offers more explanation, though I'm sure 90% of the people in this thread are just going to say "happy trails loser!!111" and discount the whole thing.

The bottom line for Arch is, he feels that he has been blackballed here, and that because of it, his career is going to suffer for it. I know most here would probably relish that thought, but I think it sucks, reflects poorly on our organization, and will come back and bite us in the ass (if this kind of karma hasn't already).

[B]The article also adds further validation to my earlier claim that the current players on the team are quite aware of how Arch is getting screwed and aren't really happy with it, either. [/B]

This is NOT how you run a class organization.[/quote]

But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?

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[quote=Bill B;264633]But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?[/quote]



AA is just pissed off because he chose the skins over the bears. he really wanted to play for lovi smith but chose washington for the money. now he's not playing because he's not preforming well, so he's just fireing off at the mouth out of frustration.

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[quote=wolfeskins;264631]uummm....it's called practice.[/quote]

If that's the case, you'd certainly have anonymously-attributed quotes from other players, saying "look, while it sucks what's happening to Adam, the fact is he had horrible practices and he had every chance to make things right".

Also, aren't at least some of the practice sessions open to the press? You mean to tell me that all this berating of the highest paid safety in NFL history happened, but NOBODY saw it, or is willing to say they saw it?

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[quote=Bill B;264633]But if this is the case why would Dockery want to resign with the Skins Why did Betts resign with the Skins? I know the easy answer is big money - is that the only answer?[/quote]

Seems pretty clear to me -- Betts and Dock are offensive players who have been part of the lone bright spot this season (the running game), while Arch is a player on the defense responsible for the biggest year-to-year defensive collapse in Redskins history.

Plus, Saunders just seems like a more reasonable, even-keeled guy, whereas GGrilliamss has a rep for being a hardass and a jerk everywhere he's been, and I'm willing to bet Joe is much more involved with the guys on offense than on defense.

You can see from Adam's statements that he's clearly making a point of saying he got a "10 minute talk with Coach Gibbs" and he "appreciated that", which says to me he neither wants to offend Gibbs nor blames him directly for what's gone down.

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[quote=dgack;264636]If that's the case, you'd certainly have anonymously-attributed quotes from other players, saying "look, while it sucks what's happening to Adam, the fact is he had horrible practices and he had every chance to make things right".

Also, aren't at least some of the practice sessions open to the press? You mean to tell me that all this berating of the highest paid safety in NFL history happened, but NOBODY saw it, or is willing to say they saw it?[/quote]

it's the exact same thing that happened with lavar. lavar was constantly out of position and missing his assignments, i would imagine AA is having trouble with those very same things. if your not preforming well in practice then your not going to play on sunday.

players are not going to discuss other players lack of skill or lack of grasping the scheme to the media. they didn't do it with lavar and they wont do it with AA.

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[quote=wolfeskins;264638]players are not going to discuss other players lack of skill or lack of grasping the scheme to the media. they didn't do it with lavar and they wont do it with AA.[/quote]

Just ask Carlos what he thinks? Also I know of at least one player Springs who spoke to the media about Lavar having little to no grasp of the defensive scheme and gameplan.

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[quote=wolfeskins;264638]it's the exact same thing that happened with lavar. lavar was constantly out of position and missing his assignments, i would imagine AA is having trouble with those very same things. if your not preforming well in practice then your not going to play on sunday.

players are not going to discuss other players lack of skill or lack of grasping the scheme to the media. they didn't do it with lavar and they wont do it with AA.[/quote]

Okay, I agree with that on principle I guess, though Lavar was seen as a leader of this team and a huge part of this franchise, so badmouthing him would not be something that guys would do, but with Archuleta being a new signing and everyone knowing how it's gone down, I don't think it's the same situation.

Plus you've got this quote from an unnamed source sympathizing with Adam, saying what happened to him "isn't fair". Not that "it's unfortunate", which would imply it was his lack of skill or ability to follow directions, but "it's unfair" which seems to put blame at the feet of the coaching staff.

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[quote=wilsowilso;264640]Just ask Carlos what he thinks? Also I know of at least one player Springs who spoke to the media about Lavar having little to no grasp of the defensive scheme and gameplan.[/quote]


carlos was talking about the possibility of springs return, he also didn't say anything that springs had not already said to the media.

i do vagely(sp) remember springs commenting on lavar. not sure if it was during the season or after lavar was gone. if it was during the season then springs was going against the grain, most nfl players don't talk publicly about their teammates faults.

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[quote=dgack;264641]Okay, I agree with that on principle I guess, though Lavar was seen as a leader of this team and a huge part of this franchise, so badmouthing him would not be something that guys would do, but with Archuleta being a new signing and everyone knowing how it's gone down, I don't think it's the same situation.

Plus you've got this quote from an unnamed source sympathizing with Adam, saying what happened to him "isn't fair". Not that "it's unfortunate", which would imply it was his lack of skill or ability to follow directions, but "it's unfair" which seems to put blame at the feet of the coaching staff.[/quote]


whats considered "fair" to one player might be considered "unfair" to another.

i think all of us are making to much out of this. AA feels that he needs an explanation as to why he's not playing. the redskins feel like AA should know that he has not played well and therefore has been replaced.

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[quote=wolfeskins;264643]i do vagely(sp) remember springs commenting on lavar. not sure if it was during the season or after lavar was gone. if it was during the season then springs was going against the grain, most nfl players don't talk publicly about their teammates faults.[/quote]

Yeah it was after Lavar was in NYC.

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[quote=wolfeskins;264643]most nfl players don't talk publicly about their teammates faults.[/quote]

Right, which is why I suggested we might see an anonymous retort to Arch's complaints if they were totally false.


[quote=wolfeskins;264643]i think all of us are making to much out of this.[/quote]

I think there are lots of cases where players come to a team and don't work out for one reason or another. But rarely do you see those players benched the way Arch was, unless it's a "locker room cancer" type of issue, and rarely does it seem to get as ugly as it does around here.

I don't think I'm alone in being concerned with the reputation (deserved or not) our front office is starting to get with respect to how we treat players. I don't mind the label that we try to buy all the best players; the fact that Snyder opens his wallet freely is a great thing IMO. But how we treat the guys we spend so lavishly on, when they don't exceed our wildest expectations, should be of concern.

So here's another question. Why is Lloyd still playing and Archuleta not? I'm bracing for the inevitable "have you seen the blocks Brandon throws! He plays his guts out on every down" comments, but the fact is, relative to his contract, I do not think he has played any better than Arch, and by all accounts he is not particularly well-liked or respected in the locker room, whereas we have heard nothing to that effect about Arch.

In case it's not obvious, I think GGrilliamss has horrible personal skills, and is allowing his ego to destroy his defensive unit.

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[quote=dgack;264657]Right, which is why I suggested we might see an anonymous retort to Arch's complaints if they were totally false.




I think there are lots of cases where players come to a team and don't work out for one reason or another. But rarely do you see those players benched the way Arch was, unless it's a "locker room cancer" type of issue, and rarely does it seem to get as ugly as it does around here.

I don't think I'm alone in being concerned with the reputation (deserved or not) our front office is starting to get with respect to how we treat players. I don't mind the label that we try to buy all the best players; the fact that Snyder opens his wallet freely is a great thing IMO. But how we treat the guys we spend so lavishly on, when they don't exceed our wildest expectations, should be of concern.

So here's another question. Why is Lloyd still playing and Archuleta not? I'm bracing for the inevitable "have you seen the blocks Brandon throws! He plays his guts out on every down" comments, but the fact is, relative to his contract, I do not think he has played any better than Arch, and by all accounts he is not particularly well-liked or respected in the locker room, whereas we have heard nothing to that effect about Arch.

In case it's not obvious, I think GGrilliamss has horrible personal skills, and is allowing his ego to destroy his defensive unit.[/quote]


lloyed has also been benched in favor of randel L but thats a different subject.
anyways, i dont know the answers any more than you do. i've given my opinion and you've given yours. only AA and the coaches know the real reason behind this.

never the less thanks for the good discussion. have a happy and safe new year.:food-smil

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;264463]Since when was it the coaching staffs responsibility to go to Arch and tell him what he is doing wrong? [/QUOTE]

Really? How is NOT the coaches responsibility? They are COACHES, they need to (gasp) COACH! It is 100% the responsibility to tell Arch exactly what he is doing wrong, if not, then they are not coaches, they are spectators.
I actually had a feeling this was taking place because the same mistakes were being made over and over. Everyone needs coaching...everyone!

I'm not saying he doesn't suck in our system, he did...but he deserves to be spoken with.

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[quote=jsarno;264660]Really? How is NOT the coaches responsibility? They are COACHES, they need to (gasp) COACH! It is 100% the responsibility to tell Arch exactly what he is doing wrong, if not, then they are not coaches, they are spectators.
I actually had a feeling this was taking place because the same mistakes were being made over and over. Everyone needs coaching...everyone!

I'm not saying he doesn't suck in our system, he did...but he deserves to be spoken with.[/quote]I answered that a couple of post after that one so before you call me out.......keep reading.

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[quote=dgack;264657]Right, which is why I suggested we might see an anonymous retort to Arch's complaints if they were totally false.




I think there are lots of cases where players come to a team and don't work out for one reason or another. But rarely do you see those players benched the way Arch was, unless it's a "locker room cancer" type of issue, and rarely does it seem to get as ugly as it does around here.

I don't think I'm alone in being concerned with the reputation (deserved or not) our front office is starting to get with respect to how we treat players. I don't mind the label that we try to buy all the best players; the fact that Snyder opens his wallet freely is a great thing IMO. But how we treat the guys we spend so lavishly on, when they don't exceed our wildest expectations, should be of concern.

So here's another question. Why is Lloyd still playing and Archuleta not? I'm bracing for the inevitable "have you seen the blocks Brandon throws! He plays his guts out on every down" comments, but the fact is, relative to his contract, I do not think he has played any better than Arch, and by all accounts he is not particularly well-liked or respected in the locker room, whereas we have heard nothing to that effect about Arch.

In case it's not obvious, I think GGrilliamss has horrible personal skills, and is allowing his ego to destroy his defensive unit.[/quote]

Exactly. The real issue isn't whether AA can cover, or does he practice well, or who hurt his feelings - forget all that crap, I could care less!

My concern is how we handle players once we consider them expendable.

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Archuleta maintains the coaches aren't talking to him, and have never explained to him why he's not playing. They don't know what to say to him. There's no way they can bring him in and chastise him for not being able to do something they knew from the beginning he could not do. There is no way anyone will ever make me believe GW didn't know beforehand the weakness in AA's game was his coverage skills. Therefore you cannot say to him I'm sitting you down because you can't cover, because that wouldn't make sense. They made a mistake with Arch, and as hard as it may be for them to admit it, that's the bottom line. Rather than admit they made a mistake with him, they chose to say nothing, and it's that nothing that's eating away at him.

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Let me put it this way:

We would need him to play coverage right now with SS out. Since he cant cover anybody, he is not seeing the field. The defense is bad enough with him on the bench. Why would we want to play a guy we know cant play??? Common sense should tell him that.

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[quote=12thMan;264663]Exactly. The real issue isn't whether AA can cover, or does he practice well, or who hurt his feelings - forget all that crap, I could care less!

My concern is how we handle players once we consider them expendable.[/quote]

Precisely -- I mean, wouldn't we be aghast if, all of the sudden, Snyder decided he had had enough of GGrilliamss and relieved him of his coaching responsibilities but put him in charge of punters or something, and just refused to talk to him about it for the better part of a work year?

On JLC's WashPost blog, there was a great comment about how when Wellington Mara died, all the players were commenting on how professionally and respectfully he always treated them. Maybe Snyder doesn't care, but right now his legacy is pretty horrible-looking. Wins, losses, and ticket prices are one issue, but how you treat professionals in your organization are another thing entirely.

Re: ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'
 

How do coaches lie to you if they do not talk with you?? Maybe they have just not told him something he wants to hear. Could it be they work with him in practice on his weaknessess without belittling him and telling him he sucks and your cover skills blow worst than what we thought, we made a evaluating mistake you are a terd in water. I also remember Lavar saying the coaches don't talk with him, and Gibbs comment that I have talked with him probably more than I have any other player in his coaching career. Whether it is arrogance or not I think players are really used to being coddled and cannot handle the hard facts that the yare not as good or underperforming. He in many people minds and talent evaluators overrated, I know he read those things why is it so difficult for him to see. I do think it is more to it though than playing talent, he has crossed somebody and I would not doubt that Arch does not know what it is but wants to play I am the victim, a hardworker and just want to improve on my weaknesses, but nobody will tell me what to work on. BOOOHOOOHOOO!!!!