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Just curious - Who were the players taken with the picks we traded to get Campbell?

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;310903]i got a man crush on campbell, i think he has a chance to be great but im surprised noone has talked about the glitch in his delivery, he seems to hold to ball low so when he wants to throw it he has to bring his arm significantly back before it can start to move forward . . . ive compared his throwing motion to peyton and others and he does hold the ball low causing vital split seconds to be lost in bringing the ball back and up . .

i know there has been a few WP articles about it too . .

go skins![/QUOTE]


I don't put a lot of stock into throwing motion so long as the QB can be accurate, guy's who are unconevtional with their throwing motion usually have compensated for whatever problem may arise from it in other areas of their game. I liken it to a hitch or a lot of movement in a baseball swing they usually find a way to get the bat in the right position just before they need to start swinging.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;310906]Just curious - Who were the players taken with the picks we traded to get Campbell?[/quote]


jay cutler and they traded the other one to the rams i think

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[quote=over the mountain;310903]i got a man crush on campbell, i think he has a chance to be great but im surprised noone has talked about the glitch in his delivery, he seems to hold to ball low so when he wants to throw it he has to bring his arm significantly back before it can start to move forward . . . ive compared his throwing motion to peyton and others and he does hold the ball low causing vital split seconds to be lost in bringing the ball back and up . .

i know there has been a few WP articles about it too . .

go skins![/quote]

Very good point. Hopefully once we get to see him in Training Camp his delivery will be much improved if not totaly fixed. The one thing that does minimize this problem is his tremendous arm strength. Even though his release is not a quick as you would like, his velocity usually makes up for it....Yes I am an enternal optimist:)

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campbell will throw for 3000 yards and have 22 to 25 tds this year and only 7 to 10picks

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is that prediction based on anything? i foresee a big year by the running game, trying to bring Campbell along slowly. and keep our defense off the field

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[quote=dmek25;310929]is that prediction based on anything? i foresee a big year by the running game, trying to bring Campbell along slowly. and keep our defense off the field[/quote]


santana returining to his 05 form and lloyd stepping up

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[quote=offiss;310907]I don't put a lot of stock into throwing motion so long as the QB can be accurate, guy's who are unconevtional with their throwing motion usually have compensated for whatever problem may arise from it in other areas of their game. I liken it to a hitch or a lot of movement in a baseball swing they usually find a way to get the bat in the right position just before they need to start swinging.[/quote]

I agree, it's relatively meaningless.

Favre has a huge winding throwing motion, he's had a pretty good career. I know he's thrown a lot of INTs lately but that's not due to the throwing motion, that's from being reckless and desperate.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;310951]I agree, it's relatively meaningless.

Favre has a huge winding throwing motion, he's had a pretty good career. I know he's thrown a lot of INTs lately but that's not due to the throwing motion, that's from being reckless and desperate.[/QUOTE]

Two words: Bernie Kosar (he was my favorite)

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[quote=Schneed10;310951]I agree, it's relatively meaningless.

Favre has a huge winding throwing motion, he's had a pretty good career. I know he's thrown a lot of INTs lately but that's not due to the throwing motion, that's from being reckless and desperate.[/quote]


thank you schneed

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[quote=JoeRedskin;310906]Just curious - Who were the players taken with the picks we traded to get Campbell?[/quote]
2005 rd 3: Karl Paymah, cb - Broncos
2006 rd 1: Manny Lawson, olb - 49ers
2006 rd 4: Brandon Marshall, wr - Broncos

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310919]campbell will throw for 3000 yards and have 22 to 25 tds this year and only 7 to 10picks[/quote]

pray he doesn't get hurt...

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[quote=hesscl34;310990]pray he doesn't get hurt...[/quote]


i am baby i am

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[B][COLOR="Red"][/COLOR][/B] im glad that there still players that want to put in work! i think he will have a GREAT year bcus of what he show last yr wit lil time to prepare now that he is gettin his timmin down wit his recievers n makin his release shorter n quicker WOOOOOO sky is tha limit wit him, i think if our RB r on point jus let him run tha offense like Rivers did wit SD nothin big nice n controlled but we need our RB to be great then he will feel comfortable

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I think one of the things that a lot of people forget is that in 2005, we were firing on all cylinders in the run game, Santana was unguardable in single coverage, and Cooley was a reception machine, but our offense still sputtered in the end, badly. While it might be all on MB, which I think could easily be the case, IMO we are going to need very solid production from either BL or ARE or both next year to be successful. Thinking that they have any sort of track record to do so is a bit of a reach. I would definitely argue that we can be effective offensively without big contributions from our second and third receivers before arguing that ARE and BL are anything more than below average as numbers 2 and 3. However, if we did get a REAL #2, ARE is a fine #3 and BL an excellent #4. I think that is what the "we need a possession WR" camp is trying to point out as well as the fact that we struggle in the red zone where bigger targets are generally more effective. Plus there is the fact that it would really open things up for Cooley and Santana. What we really need is the ability to utilize the skill players that we already have without them getting gameplanned out by opposing defensive coordinators, which is exactly what happened at the end of 2005.

In the end, I think we could use an upgrade at #2 WR or JC needs to play well enough to negate the fact that we don't have top end depth at the WR position ala Donovan McNabb. (Or the Saunders offense needs to go back to the KC days, but I'm afraid we don't quite have the OL talent or TE depth to be a clone of those teams' virtually receiverless offenses.)

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[quote=ThaGoldenEra;311038] im glad that there still players that want to put in work! i think he will have a GREAT year bcus of what he show last yr wit lil time to prepare now that he is gettin his timmin down wit his recievers n makin his release shorter n quicker WOOOOOO sky is tha limit wit him, i think if our RB r on point jus let him run tha offense like Rivers did wit SD nothin big nice n controlled but we need our RB to be great then he will feel comfortable[/quote]


i am too

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I know it's early, but hey it sure beats hearing that Campbell is struggling and looking like crap!

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[quote=Mattyk72;311230]I know it's early, but hey it sure beats hearing that Campbell is struggling and looking like crap![/quote]


sure does