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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;312192]Sounds like KFC.

I feel bloated just watching those commercials.[/QUOTE]

Remember when KFC did an add campaign about how there stuff was all "low carb". I just thought that was hilarious. Wanna bet some ad guy got a bonus for that one?

Hi we're KFC - no carbs in fried chicken so don't worry! What? The eight cups of fat in one drumstick? No worries!!! It's not carbs!!! Yeah!!

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[QUOTE=firstdown;312142]they state this "its citizens had the most potential years of life lost due to circulatory and respiratory diseases as well as diabetes" which is due to over weight which Americia has one of the biggest problems. They say our health care is failing. It seems as they only looked at raw numbers and did not figure in weight and those issue. Not a good source.[/QUOTE]

Well I haven't read the study in detail (neither have you), for me the most interesting thing - and believe me this is not the first place this has been suggested - is that America spends more now than any country in the history of the world on health care and still ranks lower then other countries in many categories.

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;312283]Well I haven't read the study in detail (neither have you), for me the most interesting thing - and believe me this is not the first place this has been suggested - is that America spends more now than any country in the history of the world on health care and still ranks lower then other countries in many categories.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I didn't think the study revealed anything new. People have known for quite some time that we Americans don't get the most bang for our health care buck. But, I think it is fair to say that America's unprecedented weight problems are a major factor in driving up every American's health care expenditures. I would like to see a study that compares the U.S. to other developed countries and somehow takes into account our record obesity rates.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;312291]Honestly, I didn't think the study revealed anything new. People have known for quite some time that we Americans don't get the most bang for our health care buck. But, I think it is fair to say that America's unprecedented weight problems are a major factor in driving up every American's health care expenditures. I would like to see a study that compares the U.S. to other developed countries and somehow takes into account our record obesity rates.[/quote]

You are so politically correct SGG. Where ya been? I thought maybe somebody shot the sheriff but missed the deputy....?

Really you are correct America's weight problems are a giant snowball effect in the healthcare system.....that gets passed along to ALL that CAN afford healthcare.

The unfurtunate folks (which sucks) that also get's passed along to the folks that pay for healthcare.

Premiums continue to increace and benefits get cut, it's a no win for the average working man.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;312191]Who is it that offers the Lard-bowl? It's like a full bowl of mashed potato's, fried mystery meat, other asundry items in the Trans-fat Bonanza.[/QUOTE]

A failure pile in a sadness bowl.

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[quote=Hog1;312191]Who is it that offers the Lard-bowl? It's like a full bowl of mashed potato's, fried mystery meat, other asundry items in the Trans-fat Bonanza.[/quote]

Stop by your local KFC and you'll find out, they might be kind and even through in a biscuit.......just to make sure those arteries our good and clogged up.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;312301]You are so politically correct SGG. Where ya been? I thought maybe somebody shot the sheriff but missed the deputy....?
[/QUOTE]

Hey Skinsfan_nn. I've been real busy lately finishing my final exams, sending papers to the State Bar, and I just bought my first house. Needless to say, I haven't had time to do much of anything fun (e.g., post a lot on thewarpath)!

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;312318]Hey Skinsfan_nn. I've been real busy lately finishing my final exams, sending papers to the State Bar, and I just bought my first house. Needless to say, I haven't had time to do much of anything fun (e.g., post a lot on thewarpath)![/quote]


Great Man! Good luck & Congrads!

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The answer to the health care crisis: single payer healthcare.

[URL="http://www.grahamazon.com/sp/"]Single-Payer: Answers and Facts about Health Care for All[/URL]

The animated version is a good overview.

Only political candidate to support if you want everyone covered fairly and efficiently, and believe that health care is a right for everyone?

Dennis Kucinich!

[URL="http://www.kucinich.us"]Kucinich for President 2008[/URL]

[URL="http://kucinich.us/issues/universalhealth.php"]Universal Health Care | Kucinich for President 2008[/URL]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]Dennis Kucinich is the only Presidential Candidate with a plan for a Universal Single Payer, NOT FOR PROFIT Healthcare system. [/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]MEDICARE FOR ALL[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]The plan in embodied in [URL="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.R.676:"][COLOR=#990066]HR 676[/COLOR] [/URL]the Conyers-Kucinich bill, written by Dennis Kucinich & John Conyers[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]The plan covers all healthcare needs, including dental care, mental care, vision care, prescription drugs, and long-term care - at NO extra cost![/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]Kucinich's plan, HR 676, is supported by 78 Members of Congress, 250 Union Locals, and 14,000 physicians and is endorsed by the New Hampshire Democratic Party. [/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]
[CENTER][I]"Health care is an essential safeguard of human life and dignity and there is an obligation for society to ensure that every person be able to realize this right." [/I]
Cardinal Joseph Bernardin, Chicago Archdiocese


[/CENTER]

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;312291]Honestly, I didn't think the study revealed anything new. People have known for quite some time that we Americans don't get the most bang for our health care buck. But, I think it is fair to say that America's unprecedented weight problems are a major factor in driving up every American's health care expenditures. I would like to see a study that compares the U.S. to other developed countries and somehow takes into account our record obesity rates.[/quote]
I cannot agree with that statement. I would have to see a real study on the issue which factors in all aspects of health and insurance. For example if my family has a history of high blood preasure, colestoral, heart problems, diabetes etc... and I smoke, eat high fat foods, drink every night, don't exercise, over weight, doctors can spend all they want trying to keep me healthy but all will fail at some point. This has to be taken into consideration when determining if we have a failing system. I agree there are area that need some work but the system as a whole is not broken.

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[quote=Oakland Red;312438]The answer to the health care crisis: single payer healthcare.

[URL="http://www.grahamazon.com/sp/"]Single-Payer: Answers and Facts about Health Care for All[/URL]

The animated version is a good overview.

Only political candidate to support if you want everyone covered fairly and efficiently, and believe that health care is a right for everyone?

Dennis Kucinich!

[URL="http://www.kucinich.us"]Kucinich for President 2008[/URL]

[URL="http://kucinich.us/issues/universalhealth.php"]Universal Health Care | Kucinich for President 2008[/URL]
[LEFT][B][COLOR=#0000cc]Dennis Kucinich is the only Presidential Candidate with a plan for a Universal Single Payer, NOT FOR PROFIT Healthcare system. [/COLOR][/B]

[B][COLOR=#0000cc]MEDICARE FOR ALL[/COLOR][/B]


[B][COLOR=#0000cc]The plan in embodied in [URL="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.R.676:"][COLOR=#990066]HR 676[/COLOR] [/URL]the Conyers-Kucinich bill, written by Dennis Kucinich & John Conyers[/COLOR][/B]


[B][COLOR=#0000cc]The plan covers all healthcare needs, including dental care, mental care, vision care, prescription drugs, and long-term care - at NO extra cost![/COLOR][/B]


[B][COLOR=#0000cc]Kucinich's plan, HR 676, is supported by 78 Members of Congress, 250 Union Locals, and 14,000 physicians and is endorsed by the New Hampshire Democratic Party. [/COLOR][/B][/LEFT]


[CENTER][I]"Health care is an essential safeguard of human life and dignity and there is an obligation for society to ensure that every person be able to realize this right." [/I]

Cardinal Joseph Bernardin, Chicago Archdiocese[/CENTER]


[/quote]

I love the line "At no extra cost!" And, its endorsed by the New Hampshire Democratic Party! Sweet Fancy Moses.

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i love how people look at party affiliation, and dismiss new ideas before reading or learning the plan

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[quote=dmek25;312663]i love how people look at party affiliation, and dismiss new ideas before reading or learning the plan[/quote]

I love that too. The important thing is that the program does in fact cost not a penny more than what is already spent on healthcare.

The difference? Cutting out the insurance companies - they use up 33% approximately of all health care costs. That savings means, for one thing, that 18,000 people will no longer need to die in the United States every year due to lack of health insurance, and bankruptcies will decline dramatically.

This is the future, it is only a question of how soon we get there.

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First off nothing is provide at no extra cost because it has a cost to provide the coverage unless the doctors agree to provide those services for free. Second can anyone come up with any goverment program that has not cost more than what they said it would. Someone mentioned that the insurance Co. use up 33% of the health care cost so that means that the goverment is going to run the system for less? I doupt that. If its past come every election polititcians will run on promisses of getting new things covered and that won't drive prices up. So how much is everyone will to pay for this health ins. 15%, 20% tax increase. We all hear that 40 million Americans do not have health ins and its implyed that they cant afford coverage which is only a half truth. How many of these are younger people who just don't feel they need coverage because they are young and healthy maybe 10 to 15 million? How many of these people decide just to risk it and go out and buy a new car or a bigger house and just don't buy health ins.? 10 million or so. So now we are down to maybe 10 to 20 million people and we want to risk our entire health program on such a few. Lets fix what we have and move on. I don'r care if this is a Dem. or Rep. idea.

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[quote=Oakland Red;312704]I love that too. The important thing is that the program does in fact cost not a penny more than what is already spent on healthcare.

The difference? Cutting out the insurance companies - they use up 33% approximately of all health care costs. That savings means, for one thing, that 18,000 people will no longer need to die in the United States every year due to lack of health insurance, and bankruptcies will decline dramatically.

This is the future, it is only a question of how soon we get there.[/quote]
If you read that stuff closer you will see little things thrown in to make things look worse as in the how they mention bankruptcies. If you read they say medical bills and dept. Well last time I check dept was allways a big reason people went bankrupt and they just slide that in to make the numbers higher. They also talked about a lady who injured her arm in an accident 5 years ago and was denied coverage because of prexsisting condition. I would also like to know the rest of that story because that makes no sense at all and is a very poor example. If you have health ins. like they said she did you can move it to another co. and they cannot not underwrite pre exsisting conditions. I know this for a fact as I just switched health ins. and my daughter had racked up 50 or so thousand in med bills which they could not underwrite against because we had prior ins. They also seem to skip around any real numbers to the cost of this program. They use a guy who owns a business and cannot afford to pay his $400 per month ins. but they some how think that he could afford to pay for his and his 4 emp. under this new plan. Huh! If I had time I could find more errors or lake of information about this plan and wanting us Americans to give our goverment control of around 10% of our economy for them to control and run like a well oil machine just like Social Security. As I said bad idea no matter what party is in control.

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Michael Moore's next target: the next Pit Pirates' BBQ event.






This idiot will just continue to get more and more insane just to try to stay in the spotlight of those who are even more insane than he is because they believe the crap that spews out of his mouth.

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[quote=Buster;313375]Michael Moore's next target: the next Pit Pirates' BBQ event.






This idiot will just continue to get more and more insane just to try to stay in the spotlight of those who are even more insane than he is because they believe the crap that spews out of his mouth.[/quote]
Not sure if its true but I heard he made more off his last movie than Haliburton has made off the war. Again I heard thatnot sure if its even close.

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[quote=Buster;313375]Michael Moore's next target: the next Pit Pirates' BBQ event.






This idiot will just continue to get more and more insane just to try to stay in the spotlight of those who are even more insane than he is because they believe the crap that spews out of his mouth.[/quote]
this is sad to say, but i believe more of what comes out of Michael Moore's mouth then i do our president

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[quote=firstdown;313398]Not sure if its true but I heard he made more off his last movie than Haliburton has made off the war. Again I heard thatnot sure if its even close.[/quote]
i would guess that VP Dick Chaney would never let this happen. its always about someone else, never about these bumbling idiots that are running this country

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I take back all the bad things I ever said about Britain's National Health:

[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=abrbOGFfldl0&refer=uk]Bloomberg.com: U.K.[/url]

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A Letter from Michael Moore: 'Sicko' is Socko in Cannes!

May 23rd, 2007

Friends,

Well, as you may have read by now, our premiere of "Sicko" at the Cannes Film Festival has been an overwhelming success. The 2,000 people inside the Lumiere Theater were alternately in tears and laughing during the two-hour film -- and when it was over, they gave it a standing ovation that seemed to go on for nearly 15 minutes! Many came up to me and said (and critics seem to agree) that this is my best film yet. I don't know about that, and it seems weird to compare any of these movies in the first place. But I do feel safe in saying that I am very, very happy with this film and I can't wait to show it to you when it opens on June 29th.

Cannes is a crazy place. There are film lovers here from nearly every country in the world. And then there are the people in "show business." These dark forces have virtually ruined this art form (invented by the French and nurtured to brilliance by the country I call home). There are so many bad, awful films now and less and less people are going to the movies. Many who run Hollywood believe that the American people are too stupid to enjoy a film that respects their intelligence.

At the press screening for "Sicko," the Wall Street Journal reported that hardened reporters and critics wept. Even those who have been harsh to me in the past, or who have not agreed with my politics, were moved. Aside from my stated desire that "Sicko" ignite a fire for free, universal health care (and a larger wish that we, as Americans, do a better job of treating each other with a true sense of solidarity and respect), I continue to hope that I can make a contribution to the art of cinema and give people a good reason to get out of the house for a few hours.

At my festival press conference, the only negative word came from the Canadians. Two critics didn't like all the nice things I said about their health care system. Yes, Canadian health care has its flaws, but when I asked the two critics if they would exchange their health care cards for mine, they said "No!" Of course they wouldn't. Canadians live longer than we do and their infant mortality is not as high as ours. Their system is underfunded because their leaders have been trying to push for more American-style health care.

The rest of the week has been good and I am now on my way back to the U.S. The New York Post reported Sunday that the Bush administration, in addition to going after me for filming scenes in or near Cuba, may now go after the 9/11 rescue workers I took with me to get the medical care they were denied by our own government. I couldn't make up irony like this if I wanted to, and I will do whatever is necessary to defend the human right of these true American heroes to receive the medical attention they deserve.......

......I will soon have a special section of my website devoted to "Sicko." Until then, we'll move forward toward our June 29th release date. Hope to see you all there that weekend!

Yours,
Michael Moore

[URL="http://www.michaelmoore.com/"]MichaelMoore.com[/URL]

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[quote=dmek25;313402]i would guess that VP Dick Chaney would never let this happen. its always about someone else, never about these bumbling idiots that are running this country[/quote]
NO its was about the person who this thread was about and his movie. In his first movie he talked about Haliburton's profits but he was the one raking in the money. Even people who he had in the movie have denounced what he implied that they said as being wrong. I'm all for someone speaking their mind but it would be nice if they stuck to the facts and not trumped up stuff.

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trumped up stuff? like wmd? and there is no way Moore made the amount of money on his movie, that haliburton has enjoyed during this no bid war.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;314016]like wmd?[/QUOTE]

So this was trumped up? Oh I guess every country on the UN security council as well as just about every expert in the filed was in on this charade then. Listen everyone....EVRYONE....thought they had WMDs. Dems, Reps, dogs, cats, mice... and guess what? They did. They didn't have the nuclear precursors like everyone thought but they have caches of mustard(ps?) gas as well as delivery systems. Oh but that doesn't get widespread media coverage does it.

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it gets my gall that the main perpetrator basically got put on the back burner

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FOX News on Michael Moore's "Sicko": "[B]brilliant and uplifting"[/B]

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273875,00.html]FOXNews.com - 'Sicko' Shows Michael Moore's Maturity as a Filmmaker - Celebrity Gossip | Entertainment News | Arts And Entertainment[/url]


Wall Street Journal on "Sicko":

[url=http://michaelmoore.com/words/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=9819]MichaelMoore.com : Michael Moore's 'SiCKO' Receives Healthy Response at Premiere[/url]

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An opposing viewpoint from Kyle Smith:

[URL="http://blogs.nypost.com/movies/archives/2007/06/kyle_smith_on_m.html#more"]Movies[/URL]

And, Democrats not ready to embrace Moore' prescription:

[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-movie22jun22,0,5962985.story?coll=la-home-center]'Sicko' leaves top Democrats ill at ease - Los Angeles Times[/url]

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I went to see this yesterday. You can't help but walk away feeling that our system needs some serious help. I know that nobody's system is perfect, and yes Moore is giving us a one sided view, but it still doesn't change my thinking that healthcare should not be handled by private industry. When companies are profiting from providing care for others, I think that's a seriously flawed system. Greed corrupts everything, and it's clearly corrupted our healthcare system.

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He's a jackass, always has been, always will be. EVERYTHING can be better, no matter what it is, so he makes money off of telling people that things need to be better, but is nowhere to be found when things actually need to be fixed. Not to mention the fact that he lied left and right in that Farenheit 911. (for those that saw that, you really need to see farenhype 911)
I'm sure this has already been said, but his ass should be in jail for going to cuba. He broke the law ON FILM. Throw the book at him boys!

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;311772]He's Cashing in on other people's pain for his own gain and not really shineing a light.

Did you not know HMOs were F'ing all of us?
Did you not know Big CEOs were F'ing their companies?
Did you not know crazy people can legaly get guns in America?

He shed no light he filmed and cashed in on people's pain.

peace[/QUOTE]

yeah..but...have you SEEN any of his movies?

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I just paid my water bill. Now, water is the most basic of human needs, so if healthcare is a "right" and should be "paid for by the government" ("free" to the less economically astute among us) then surely water should be as well. Ditto food, heat, and in certain areas AC (we can't have grandma falling over from heatstroke). Sex is a basic human need or "right". I expect Hillary to do something about that as soon as she is elected. Well, not her personally, but perhaps a voucher for the Bunny Ranch or something. Those greedy prostitutes, making money off of a basic human necessity. [B]Down with hos and HMOs[/B]. And these constant Bear attacks. I am so sick of these constant Bear attacks.

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[QUOTE=dblanch66;325474]yeah..but...have you SEEN any of his movies?[/QUOTE]

I did see Columbine (forgot the actual name) and farenheit 911, both I saw for free cause my friend had it...I would never give money to that jackass. There is no doubt he has no intentions of helping people. He is more interested in twisting things and making a slew of money. But hey, if you want to give money away to see lies and a person twist issues, more power to you.

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[QUOTE=70Chip;325475]I just paid my water bill. Now, water is the most basic of human needs, so if healthcare is a "right" and should be "paid for by the government" ("free" to the less economically astute among us) then surely water should be as well. Ditto food, heat, and in certain areas AC (we can't have grandma falling over from heatstroke). Sex is a basic human need or "right". I expect Hillary to do something about that as soon as she is elected. Well, not her personally, but perhaps a voucher for the Bunny Ranch or something. Those greedy prostitutes, making money off of a basic human necessity. [B]Down with hos and HMOs[/B]. And these constant Bear attacks. I am so sick of these constant Bear attacks.[/QUOTE]

LOL...that's a great post!

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actually this is the best of all of his films that i've seen, Fahrenheit and columbine. I went to it last weekend and it got a lot of applause at the end. Moore is a very talented film maker and most people leave with an outlook of change.

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[quote=70Chip;325475]I just paid my water bill. Now, water is the most basic of human needs, so if healthcare is a "right" and should be "paid for by the government" ("free" to the less economically astute among us) then surely water should be as well. Ditto food, heat, and in certain areas AC (we can't have grandma falling over from heatstroke). Sex is a basic human need or "right". I expect Hillary to do something about that as soon as she is elected. Well, not her personally, but perhaps a voucher for the Bunny Ranch or something. Those greedy prostitutes, making money off of a basic human necessity. [B]Down with hos and HMOs[/B]. And these constant Bear attacks. I am so sick of these constant Bear attacks.[/quote]

Healthcare isn't a right but rather a basic service that a government aught to provide to it's citizens. As for your water bill, look at how much it costs you compared to other services you pay for. It's heavily subsidized by your locale. Of course nothing is ever for free, you pay for everything either via your own pocket or through taxes. So that subsidized water bill, you're paying the cost of it via the likes of property tax.


As for hos, I'm with you on that :). I dream of a day where I can say "I want sex right now, holding out on me is a violation of my civil rights."

Also, if something isn't a right can we infer that it's a privilege?

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I am what you call a paleo conservative, but with this proto fascist thing we have going on between the Federal govt and big Pharm, you can't but help to agree somewhat with the left on the health care issue. With my company, the only health care plan offered that was any good was the one offered to single folks like me. The folks with kids were stuck with a substandard plan that would still stick it to them bigtime in terms of pay taken out of the weekely paychecks. When 70% more women in America are dying in childbirth than in Europe, something is not right when we have the supposedly #1 health care system in the world.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;325551]When 70% more women in America are dying in childbirth than in Europe, something is not right when we have the supposedly #1 health care system in the world.[/QUOTE]

I don't get the point of this comment, cause our healthcare system requires immediate medical attention for those in immediate danger. So are you saying our doctors are inferior to the doctors in Europe?
What do you feel is the main reason that allegedly 70% more woman in America are dying in childbirth than in Europe?

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i love it how republicans spew the hatred towards Moore for making movies strictly for the money. but yet the oil companies gouge us everyday, and its their right to maintain as big of a profit as they seem.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;325850]i love it how republicans spew the hatred towards Moore for making movies strictly for the money. but yet the oil companies gouge us everyday, and its their right to maintain as big of a profit as they seem.[/QUOTE]


Difference there is the government can't stop free enterprise. The government will never stop businesses from making a profit unless it's a monopoly, but since all the oil companies are together, that won't happen. You're asking the government to go against what the USA stands for. Not going to happen.
We don't like the fact that the oil companies are showing record profits anymore than you do, but there is only one way to stop it! Stop it at the source. The more of us that stop using the black crack, the easier it would be to create alternative fuels. Everyone bitches about the gas prices, well what are you doing to fix it? Not only are they showing record profit, but we're showing record demand for the stuff. It's supply and demand. I for one use my motorcycle more, I'm trying my part.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;325869]Difference there is the government can't stop free enterprise. The government will never stop businesses from making a profit unless it's a monopoly, but since all the oil companies are together, that won't happen. You're asking the government to go against what the USA stands for. Not going to happen.
We don't like the fact that the oil companies are showing record profits anymore than you do, but there is only one way to stop it! Stop it at the source. The more of us that stop using the black crack, the easier it would be to create alternative fuels. Everyone bitches about the gas prices, well what are you doing to fix it? Not only are they showing record profit, but we're showing record demand for the stuff. It's supply and demand. I for one use my motorcycle more, I'm trying my part.[/QUOTE]

How is making a profitable film not free-enterprise? That's why I never understood the complaint that Michael Moore makes money off his films. If free enterprise is the most perfect system and a film maker is succesful within that system, what's the problem?