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Lakers in trade talks to get Garnett Oh man would this be great!

[url=http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers26jun26,1,6107504.story?coll=la-headlines-sports]Sign Up[/url] I think Kobe would finally shut his hole if the Lakers could actually make this happen. I love Lamar Odom. But Kevin G. and Kobe together would be awesome.

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Here is a link to the ESPN article. [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2916217]ESPN - Report: Lakers, Wolves in Garnett talks - NBA[/url]

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[quote=Riggo44;321297]Lakers in trade talks to get Garnett Oh man would this be great!

[URL="http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers26jun26,1,6107504.story?coll=la-headlines-sports"]Sign Up[/URL] I think Kobe would finally shut his hole if the Lakers could actually make this happen. I love Lamar Odom. But Kevin G. and Kobe together would be awesome.[/quote]

Yeah just heard about that on SC. They say it is a possible 4 way trade with T-Wolves, Lakers, Pacers and Celtics.

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[QUOTE=hooskins;321320]Yeah just heard about that on SC. They say it is a possible 4 way trade with T-Wolves, Lakers, Pacers and Celtics.[/QUOTE]

Do you know how the Celts and Pacers are involved?

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[QUOTE=jsarno;321331]Do you know how the Celts and Pacers are involved?[/QUOTE]

Trade discussions initially involved the Lakers, Wolves, Pacers and a fourth team, and sources told ESPN and ESPN.com that that team was the Celtics. They would have gotten Jermaine O'Neal from the Pacers and sent young players to the Wolves. The Lakers would have gotten Garnett, while the Pacers would have landed Los Angeles forward Lamar Odom and center Andrew Bynum. Minnesota would also have acquired at least one of the teams' draft picks, possibly Boston's No. 5 in Thursday's draft

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;321367]Trade discussions initially involved the Lakers, Wolves, Pacers and a fourth team, and sources told ESPN and ESPN.com that that team was the Celtics. They would have gotten Jermaine O'Neal from the Pacers and sent young players to the Wolves. The Lakers would have gotten Garnett, while the Pacers would have landed Los Angeles forward Lamar Odom and center Andrew Bynum. Minnesota would also have acquired at least one of the teams' draft picks, possibly Boston's No. 5 in Thursday's draft[/QUOTE]

That would be a great deal for the Celts...have there been any more talks about this?

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Latest is the Celtics are backing out of the deal now

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[quote=SmootSmack;321415]Latest is the Celtics are backing out of the deal now[/quote]

Yeah heard that on the way back, on the road. Seems like they wouldnt get what they want, and the T-wolves might not have even gone with the "deal" because they basically get the Celtics shit.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;320751]I am not on the wizards bandwagon yet...I think this year was more of a fluke than of great things to come.[/QUOTE]

This was the third consecutive year they made the playoffs. What's the fluke?

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;321469]This was the third consecutive year they made the playoffs. What's the fluke?[/QUOTE]


Point is, people seem to think they are 1 piece away from winning it all, I think they are one peice away from having a high lottery pick. Case in point, you were 4-12 in the final 16 games. I understand injuries play a factor, but 4-12???? (2-8 in the last 10)
In case you didn't notice, they have gone from 45 wins, to 42, to 41. The last two years they exited the playoffs first round.

ps- to me, if you are .500 or barely .500, I don't consider you a playoff caliber team...just fresh meat for the first place teams to feast on.

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I think it was on rome is burning, but they were talking about it would a more possible and intelligent deal if they just cut out the pacers and then the trade would go as follows:
Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the Celtics #5 pick
LA gets Garnett and maybe a crap contract from the celtics
Boston gets Odom, Bynum, and the waste of space known as Kwame Brown.

this would probably work out for all the teams pretty well but as a Lakers fan the main thing the team really needs is a reliable high end point guard maybe like Chauncy Billups.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;321724]Point is, people seem to think they are 1 piece away from winning it all, I think they are one peice away from having a high lottery pick. Case in point, you were 4-12 in the final 16 games. I understand injuries play a factor, but 4-12???? (2-8 in the last 10)
In case you didn't notice, they have gone from 45 wins, to 42, to 41. The last two years they exited the playoffs first round.

ps- to me, if you are .500 or barely .500, I don't consider you a playoff caliber team...just fresh meat for the first place teams to feast on.[/QUOTE]

I disagree with you Jsarno. Clearly this is a team that is running in place to an extent, but I don't know how anyone can conclude that the addition of an impact big man wouldn't make them relevant in the East. Detroit is done, Miami is entering a rebuilding period, and Cleveland is a team we have always competed with. Toronto is on the up but I'm not scared of them yet.

If you argument is that the Wizards are "only" the loss of their two best players away from being a lottery team I would agree.....but come on, I'm not even going to bother explaining why that's a bad argument.

The bottomline is the Wizards, who have not enjoyed any sustained success in my entire lifetime, and I know this because I have been following ｔｈｅｍ for as long as I can remember, have a built a team around a legit superstar, a legit allstar, and a solid group of reserves and roleplayers. Nobody is saying they are going to win the championship next year, but I don't know how you can conclude that there is anything flukish about them when they have been consistent for three years and if anything have underachieved.

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;321750]I disagree with you Jsarno. Clearly this is a team that is running in place to an extent, but I don't know how anyone can conclude that the addition of an impact big man wouldn't make them relevant in the East. Detroit is done, Miami is entering a rebuilding period, and Cleveland is a team we have always competed with. Toronto is on the up but I'm not scared of them yet. [/quote]

Detroit is not done, nor is Miami...that's just wishful thinking. Toronto is up and coming, and you can not compare with Cleveland.

[quote]If you argument is that the Wizards are "only" the loss of their two best players away from being a lottery team I would agree.....but come on, I'm not even going to bother explaining why that's a bad argument. [/quote]

I didn't say 2. They are 1 injury away from being a lottery pick. ANY team that loses their best two players are going down. I am saying that the Wizards even losing their 2nd best player is no longer close to a playoff team.

[quote]The bottomline is the Wizards, who have not enjoyed any sustained success in my entire lifetime, and I know this because I have been following ｔｈｅｍ for as long as I can remember, have a built a team around a legit superstar, a legit allstar, and a solid group of reserves and roleplayers. Nobody is saying they are going to win the championship next year, but I don't know how you can conclude that there is anything flukish about them when they have been consistent for three years and if anything have underachieved.[/QUOTE]

They have been consistantly average for 3 years and they have what you already mentioned. (although I will argue to the end that you have a horrible bench, not a solid group, which is also why I feel that adding one player won't cut it...KG is a PF, so who would be the center? Jamison?)

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For those who care, here is the latest on the Kobe scenario,

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2927333]ESPN - Kobe says he apologized to Lakers' Kupchak - NBA[/url]

Like I expected it looks like he's back pedaling a bit.