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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330518]ps. Do you thing the Chargers made a good trade in the 2001 draft? Vick or L.T? With hindsight being 20/20 that sure isn’t to tough.lol[/QUOTE]

I think everyone felt that they made the wise choice even after they made it. No hindsight needed.
Like i have said a million times before, Vick is overrated. Always has been...but apparently he will no longer be. :D

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Chargers got the better part of that deal easily. Even back in 2001 when they made it. I thought it was a great deal for San Diego. San Diego has a knack for making good deals. (example: 2004 Eli for Rivers)

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Who do you go after: The guy who does coke in his basement, the guy who sells coke to a few clients, or the person who supplies the whole city with coke? Vick can't sing on anyone becuase he happens to be the person they want! He's at the top.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330517]Absolutely agree...by the way it was me that made the black heart comment.
It really angers me. I haven't been this pissed at a peice of news in a long time.
I hope he never gets to play football again...and if he does, I hope everyone boos him every time he touches the ball.[/QUOTE]

Sorry about that jsarno. Your black heart comment rang true to me. I just edited it to give you props for the comment.:food-smil

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330530]Sorry about that jsarno. Your black heart comment rang true to me. I just edited it to give you props for the comment.:food-smil[/QUOTE]

It's no big deal, just wanted to make you aware of it.
I think we are both pretty appauled at Vick and his actions. It's a shame the country doesn't have stiffer penalties for things like this. Who knows, maybe we'll see a "Vick" law in the future.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330527]Chargers got the better part of that deal easily. Even back in 2001 when they made it. I thought it was a great deal for San Diego. San Diego has a knack for making good deals. (example: 2004 Eli for Rivers)[/QUOTE]

True. They have been doing pretty good with there personnel lately. Let’s see if Turner can make it all work this year. The Chargers have kind of been my “step child” team since the Rams left. I pull for them as long as there not playing the Redskins.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330527]Chargers got the better part of that deal easily. Even back in 2001 when they made it. I thought it was a great deal for San Diego. San Diego has a knack for making good deals. (example: 2004 Eli for Rivers)[/QUOTE]

Only recently...they weren't exactly smart in the late 80's and throughout the 90's.

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330538]True. They have been doing pretty good with there personnel lately. Let’s see if Turner can make it all work this year. The Chargers have kind of been my “step child” team since the Rams left. I pull for them as long as there not playing the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

I especially am pulling for them now that they got embarassed by the patriots. I hate the patriots, and the chargers are a class team and orginization.

It doesn't hurt that I have a few Norv Turner autographed items and need him to be successful to cash in! :D

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"Riggo44: ps. Do you thing the Chargers made a good trade in the 2001 draft? Vick or L.T? With hindsight being 20/20 that sure isn’t to tough.lol"

In addition to the trade you mention, and as I said previously in this thread, they kicked Matt Schaub to the curb earlier this year which now really looks bad. Now Joey Harrington may be the one to take over as QB and that isn't a good thing. Good luck Dirty Birds.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330535]It's no big deal, just wanted to make you aware of it.
I think we are both pretty appauled at Vick and his actions. It's a shame the country doesn't have stiffer penalties for things like this. Who knows, maybe we'll see a "Vick" law in the future.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully this will shed so much light on the subject and bring such stiffer laws. That the ignorant people out there that take part in dog fights will see that animal cruelty just isn’t right.

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It is ridiculous how many people I have heard stating how they don’t consider this issue a big deal (sorry Clinton P.). Says a lot about our society I guess.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330540]I especially am pulling for them now that they got embarassed by the patriots. I hate the patriots, and the chargers are a class team and orginization.

It doesn't hurt that I have a few Norv Turner autographed items and need him to be successful to cash in! :D[/QUOTE]

Nice, I hate the Patriots too. So I guess we fell the same way about a few things.(Besides Tony Stewart that is);)
I hope you get to cash in on your Turner sig's as well.:laughing-

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330543]I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully this will shed so much light on the subject and bring such stiffer laws. That the ignorant people out there that take part in dog fights will see that animal cruelty just isn’t right.[/QUOTE]

I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330550]Nice, I hate the Patriots too. So I guess we fell the same way about a few things.(Besides Tony Stewart that is);)
I hope you get to cash in on your Turner sig's as well.:laughing-[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I still need to work on you about Stewart. LOL. :D

We have actually fallen on similar sides of the argument on several occasions.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330551]I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.[/QUOTE]


Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace

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[quote=jsarno;330551]I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.[/quote]
Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.

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[QUOTE=Riggo44;330557]Yea I love my camp fires and BBQ. Maybe you should start one. I would be on board. lol

I'm off to lunch. peace[/QUOTE]

If I had a clue how to make that group profitable, then I would.
I firmly believe that God put animals on this earth for us to eat...deer included. I do not condone hunting deer if you only want his antlers. You should hunt him to eat him only.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;330561]Oh, you mean the PETA that picked up 20 some dogs from a shelter uthanized them in a van after telling the shelter they would find them homes. Then they dump them in a dumpster. Thats a good idea.[/QUOTE]


REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?

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Couple of things:
1. I read in one of the Vick related articles that the Feds have a 95% conviction rate on their indictments. (Scooter Libby, Enron Execs - rich, powerful, connected and in jail on federal indictments).

2. The Virginia federal circuit is politely known as the "Rocket Docket" - No dicking around there. The trial will begin by December or January '08.

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[quote=jsarno;330566]REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?[/quote]
I will find a link but PETA's home head quarters is here in the Tidewater area so they make the News often. It was two worker who went to get these dogs at a shelter that was over run with dogs and they offered to help. The reason the shelter was over run was because they do not uthanize any animals. PETA offered to help and told the shelter they would find them homes and not uthanize the dogs. On the way back the workers stopped an uthanized most if not all of the dogs and dumped them in a dumpster behind a business. The business discovered the dogs and the cops came and traced it back to PETA. The two employess where charged with some type of crimes I think one was unthanizing dogs and not lic to do it. PETA head quarters acted as they had no idea it had happened but most people feel thet they did because who gave the employees the uthanization stuff and didn't they inquire to what happened to the dogs.

Just last week a PETA worker got caught stealing a hunting dog. She found the dog walking down the road and picked it up and there was no problem with that. She then removed the dogs collar and a tracking devise for locating the dog. I think a cop stop her and noticed the dog which she was trying to hide and he noticed the markings. It was the sheriffs dog and then she was asked about the dogs collar and stuff and she said that it did not have one. Well they tracked it down and found it sitting beside the locator and then found her finger prints. This one has not gone to trial and what she was doing was stealling the dog because they think hunters do not care for their dogs. Oh, they use the dogs for hunting which they also do not like.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;330455]I don't think you understood at all what GibbsisGod was trying to say. No one is discrediting the value of human life. But allegations against Vick have nothing to do with sending an army to war. It was an inappropriate and irrelevant analogy. Then your second post was about the FBI and CIA being scum. Not a good start.[/QUOTE]


its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330566]REALLY? I didn't hear anything about this...why would they do that?
Do you have a link?[/QUOTE]

[url=http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=125329&ran=7944]ARTICLE: DEA investigating PETA over euthanasia drug training (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)[/url]

[url=http://www.fbresearch.org/Journalists/Releases/PeTALeadin.htm]FBR - Education about Animal Research[/url]

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[quote=jsarno;330551]I wish PETA wasn't so damn gay, cause they have good ideals, they just go crazy over dumb things some times.
I'd love to start a less abrasive group for the ethical treatment of animals without being a tree hugger, and someone that thinks that they shouldn't eat cows.[/quote]

I'm with you on PETA, I hate being on the same side as them because they are wackos and more of a political fringe group than a group that really cares for animals.

There is a group that already exists that is more mainstream and truly focus on animal well-being without being nut-jobs...The Humane Society of the U.S. They are heavily involved in the Vick issue, lobbying the NFL and Arthur Blank, (Falcons & Home Depot owner) to have Vick suspended.

[URL="http://www.hsus.org/"]The Humane Society of the United States[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T[/QUOTE]

I still don't think you get it. It seems like you're trying to antagonize for the sake of antagonizing.

I mean, it's like when the Redskins lose a game and everyone gets pissed we all know that grand scheme it's not a big deal when people are dying senselessly every day. But it's not relevant to the immediate discussion of the Redskins. To the immediate discussion of Vick and his alleged mistreatment of dogs and his future in the league, the AIDS epidemic in South Africa (as an example) doesn't really seem to fit.

And I still don't know what the CIA has to do with all this

And leave PSUSKINSFAN21 alone

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T[/quote]
Like I posted earlier you need to take your political stuff over to the parking lot as this is not the place for it. Why not start thread in the parking lot section and explain to us what the CIA did to the black panthers.

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[quote=724Skinsfan;330434]What's the over/under for how long before we hear the conviction and follo-up sentencing? I say 18 months before conviction/sentencing.[/quote]

I'll take the Under. I heard on Mike & Mike this morning that the Federal Court in Richmond, VA moves its caseload faster than any other Fed Court in the U.S. Greenberg mentioned he spoke with an attorney familiar with the Federal system and estimated the trial starting in Oct. / Nov. 2007.

This link is from the Virginian Pilot, today. Vick and his cohorts have their bond hearing and arraignment on July 26th.

[URL="http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=128669&ran=140367&tref=po"]ARTICLE: First court date set for Michael Vick in dogfighting case (The Virginian-Pilot - HamptonRoads.com/PilotOnline.com)[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! [/quote]

What makes one life more important than another?
For Instance, does someone that is severely mentally retarded not deserve the same rights as someone who is "normal"? You may argue that "well he's human, so yes". While I would agree yes is the answer, but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human? Is it the brain function? Or are you just more interested in the specific race? Cause there are plenty of dogs that are more intelligent than humans.
While I do not treat my Basset Hounds better than myself, they are definitely like my children, and I love them as such, and give them a great life. I do not feel this is wrong in any way, nor should I apologize for it.

[quote]it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!?[/quote]

Well those are valid issues, however if you look at the title of this thread, this thread is about how Vick treated his dogs. As such, you should expect to hear about animal cruelty and people for or against it. This is not a post about homelessness...feel free to start a thread in the parking lot to discuss these issues and I'm sure many of us here will be right there to discuss it with you.

[quote]we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc.[/quote]

While I do not do this, I do not get upset at people who do. It's their money and can use it in any manner they wish. Not that I am judging, but if they spent $700 on a dog, well, that's better than going to Vegas and giving it away on the black jack table. Not that I'm against gambling either...hell I love roulette.

[quote]i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world[/quote]

As I am sure they would love to ship you somewhere where you're not allowed to speak your mind, but oddly enough, we live in America and people are free here.

[quote].....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....[/quote]

Start a thread on what they did. I'd like to hear it, cause as far as my limited knowledge goes on the black panthers, they were not a great group of people. Maybe you could teach us a thing or two.

[quote]like the AIN'T[/QUOTE]

the word "ain't", is actually a legitamate english word. It's now in dictionaries.

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330584]its not just the war buddy, its the way we treat dogs as equal and sometimes better than humans!! it sickens me how we get up in arms when something like this happens, but what about darfur? hell what about the homeless and less fortunate living here in america!?!? we put dogs in $500 spas, buy $200 dollar outfits etc. i just wish i could ship some of these peta people across the ocean to see what life is really like for most of world....and i have 3 dogs so its not about me hating dogs at all........
.....and after what the CIA did to the black panthers, how can i believe anything those scumbags say (sorry if there is grammer or spelling errors Mr. PSUSKINSFAN21, i'm on summer break and i could give a rats ass for a spelling check, just like most of the other people on this site from what i read) this AIN'T english 101.....like the AIN'T[/quote]

So at any point do you plan on offering a single piece of intelligent discussion on anything football related? Just curious.

And somehow I doubt whether your being on summer break has any bearing on your abilities to spell properly or use proper grammar. Of course, if you are still on this site when your Junior High starts back up again (and you probably won't be), I guess you'll have the chance to prove me wrong.


And well done jsarno.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;330596]What makes one life more important than another?
For Instance, does someone that is severely mentally retarded not deserve the same rights as someone who is "normal"? You may argue that "well he's human, so yes". While I would agree yes is the answer, but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human? Is it the brain function? Or are you just more interested in the specific race? Cause there are plenty of dogs that are more intelligent than humans.
While I do not treat my Basset Hounds better than myself, they are definitely like my children, and I love them as such, and give them a great life. I do not feel this is wrong in any way, nor should I apologize for it.



Well those are valid issues, however if you look at the title of this thread, this thread is about how Vick treated his dogs. As such, you should expect to hear about animal cruelty and people for or against it. This is not a post about homelessness...feel free to start a thread in the parking lot to discuss these issues and I'm sure many of us here will be right there to discuss it with you.



While I do not do this, I do not get upset at people who do. It's their money and can use it in any manner they wish. Not that I am judging, but if they spent $700 on a dog, well, that's better than going to Vegas and giving it away on the black jack table. Not that I'm against gambling either...hell I love roulette.



As I am sure they would love to ship you somewhere where you're not allowed to speak your mind, but oddly enough, we live in America and people are free here.



Start a thread on what they did. I'd like to hear it, cause as far as my limited knowledge goes on the black panthers, they were not a great group of people. Maybe you could teach us a thing or two.



the word "ain't", is actually a legitamate english word. It's now in dictionaries.[/QUOTE]

sorry bro, i lost you after your "but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human?" are you serious?? LMFAO...i don't know..... maybe common sense. and i love my dog as much as my kid, and if someone had a gun to my kid's and dog's head and said pick....guess what, i'm buying a new dog. i've lived in three different continents in my short life(trying to make it 4 by next year) so trust me, i've been to the places of the world your talking about and even though people might not be as free there or might not have the same access to education as we do here.....they do know there is a difference between dogs and humans, one life does mean more than the other buddy, i.e you eat meat? if not you eat veggies right? they both are living things right? so how can you say dogs are in the same level as humans when we kill cows for meat and plants for veggies?!?! and "ain't" made the dictionaries? you see you learn something new everyday bro


and i'm not about to tell you how wrong you are about the black panthers.....if you really care (which i don't think you do) you can google them:argue: its all love though....at least your a skins fan!!

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330600]sorry bro, i lost you after your "but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human?" are you serious?? LMFAO...i don't know..... maybe common sense. and i love my dog as much as my kid, and if someone had a gun to my kid's and dog's head and said pick....[B][I]guess what, i'm buying a new dog.[/I][/B] i've lived in three different continents in my short life(trying to make it 4 by next year) so trust me, i've been to the places of the world your talking about and even though people might not be as free there or might not have the same access to education as we do here.....they do know there is a difference between dogs and humans, one life does mean more than the other buddy, i.e you eat meat? if not you eat veggies right? they both are living things right? so how can you say dogs are in the same level as humans when we kill cows for meat and plants for veggies?!?! and "ain't" made the dictionaries? you see you learn something new everyday bro


and i'm not about to tell you how wrong you are about the black panthers.....if you really care (which i don't think you do) you can google them:argue: its all love though....at least your a skins fan!![/quote]


I dont know why I find that line funny.

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330600]sorry bro, i lost you after your "but what makes the life of a dog any less important than a human?" are you serious?? LMFAO...i don't know..... maybe common sense. and i love my dog as much as my kid, and if someone had a gun to my kid's and dog's head and said pick....guess what, i'm buying a new dog. i've lived in three different continents in my short life(trying to make it 4 by next year) so trust me, i've been to the places of the world your talking about and even though people might not be as free there or might not have the same access to education as we do here.....they do know there is a difference between dogs and humans, one life does mean more than the other buddy, i.e you eat meat? if not you eat veggies right? they both are living things right? so how can you say dogs are in the same level as humans when we kill cows for meat and plants for veggies?!?! and "ain't" made the dictionaries? you see you learn something new everyday bro


and i'm not about to tell you how wrong you are about the black panthers.....if you really care (which i don't think you do) you can google them:argue: its all love though....at least your a skins fan!![/quote]

How old are you?

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330608]How old are you?[/QUOTE]


25 years young buddy.....for me thats a midlife crisis seeing how no guys in my family live past 50:( ......so the damn skins better do something in these next 25 years of my life, hopefully 10 superbowls and 10 league titles from liverpool fc(i know off subject):offtopic: and i can die a happy man:food-smil

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330609]25 years young buddy.....for me thats a midlife crisis seeing how no guys in my family live past 50:( ......so the damn skins better do something in these next 25 years of my life, hopefully 10 superbowls and 10 league titles from liverpool fc(i know off subject):offtopic: and i can die a happy man:food-smil[/quote]


I am only 18 so we better do something this year.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;330610]I am only 18 so we better do something this year.[/QUOTE]

well it can't be worse than the year i was 18!!

losing to the cowboys twice
jeff "i make my own plays" george under center
and norv"i can't believe i'm still here" turner coaching
mark carrier trying to look like a safety(failing miserably)
but hey at least we got to see darrell green pass the baton to champ!!
8-8 record 3rd in the nfc east:Flush: ......i remember it like it was yesterday

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i lied. sorry

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[quote=Dirty_Landry;330612]well it can't be worse than the year i was 18!!

losing to the cowboys twice
jeff "i make my own plays" george under center
and norv"i can't believe i'm still here" turner coaching
mark carrier trying to look like a safety(failing miserably)
but hey at least we got to see darrell green pass the baton to champ!!
8-8 record 3rd in the nfc east:Flush: ......i remember it like it was yesterday[/quote]


we were like 7-4 at one point in that season. Damn Jeff George.

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[quote=skinsfan69;330114]Do u think he is guilty? Personally, I think he was funding the operation. Someone had to have the $ to fund the operation. Taking care of some 60 dogs is a lot of $.[/quote]

Indicted on 3 counts! Oh my!!!!!!!! Triple threat time for Vick. Even if he beats one count, he probably won't beat them all!!!! His career is crashing as we speak. All they have to do is tie him in moneywise and he is a goner!!! Folks been saying 2-3 game suspension, but I can't see anything less than a season suspension and maybe worse. Skins is right!!! 60 pitbulls would take a load of bread to feed, train, mate, etc. I doubt his lame ass cousin would have that type of dough. Vick is going to get nailed!!!!!! The Vick bros are total morons!!!!!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;330614]we were like 7-4 at one point in that season. Damn Jeff George.[/quote]
We needed to keep Gus til we either got a better WR corp for him or landed Brad Johnson or anothe FA QB stud. Gus could have really been something if we had a WR corp back then. When the best guy you have to throw to was Westbrook, even P. Manning would be doomed!!!!!!

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There is no acceptable defense for the actions of Michael Vick. Someone mentioned Devon Boddie and why his name wasn't mentioned anywhere in the indictment, well I had wondered the exact same thing. He did however, do his best to insult the intelligence of investigators when he said the dogs found on Vick's property were planted by authorities.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;330617]We needed to keep Gus til we either got a better WR corp for him or landed Brad Johnson or anothe FA QB stud. Gus could have really been something if we had a WR corp back then. When the best guy you have to throw to was Westbrook, even P. Manning would be doomed!!!!!![/quote]


Enough with Gus Ferotte.