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I really don't want to get started on this thread.

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[quote=12thMan;344795]I don't. What has Champ won with Denver? Don't get me wrong, Champ is arguably the best CB in the game, but I like the way our secondary looks this year. I doubt we could afford Taylor, Landry and Champ back there.[/quote]


how about consecutive pro bowl bids year after year, covering recievers in a tougher conference.

if portis doesnt come through for us this year i will look at him as a bust. yeah hes clever and funny and thats why we all like him, but get serious man perform out there....

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;345052]Either way they should give him the ball 500 times this year and next ([B]assuming he makes it to next year[/B]).[/quote]Don't worry, 500 carries is an excellent way to end a RB's career right on the spot.

Since I guess that's your goal or something.

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[quote=chrisl4064;345084]how about consecutive pro bowl bids year after year, covering recievers in a tougher conference.

if portis doesnt come through for us this year i will look at him as a bust. yeah hes clever and funny and thats why we all like him, but get serious man perform out there....[/quote]

For the life of me, I don't know how you would consider Portis a bust.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;345043]Having the power to lock a hyperbolic Portis thread: Priceless

(but I won't)[/QUOTE]
That's 'cause you don't have the guts to...c'mon, lock it...you won't do it ;)

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[quote=chrisl4064;345084]how about consecutive pro bowl bids year after year, covering recievers in a tougher conference.

if portis doesnt come through for us this year i will look at him as a bust. yeah hes clever and funny and thats why we all like him, but get serious man perform out there....[/quote]

Yeah Portis is a bust... All he did was set the frachises single season rushing record, (1315) and most 100 yard games (9) record his first season here (which was at that point in his career the LEAST amount of yard he had gained in a season) And sure we rode him into the playoffs in 05 but those 5 consecutive 100 yard games to get us there was an abberation. Yup hes a bust all right....:pffff:

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I was pretty upset with this trade from jump street. Any back is great in Denver...I thought he was too slight for the ground and pound...and Champ Bailey and a PICK!...I was scratching my head, but keeping the faith. Now I remember why I was pissed. I was hoping they'd get LaMont Jordan who was being shopped by the Jets at that time. Big fast and mean and would have loved to been behind this line as opposed to the Raidassss.
PEACE

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[QUOTE=44Dive;345276]I was pretty upset with this trade from jump street. [/QUOTE]

Hey you and me both...I never thought FOX should have let Johnny Depp go for Grieco :)

Seriously though, CP is going to prove a lot, A LOT, of people wrong this year.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;344828]didn't we go over this, and over this, and over this? Bailey did not want to play here. and Portis speaks the truth about him and injuries. he had better get healthy, because no one can help their team from the trainers table. and that makes them expendable[/QUOTE]

Bailey didn't want to play here? Who says? Money talks and if the money was right he'd still be a Skin today. Instead, we have lost a Hall of Fame corner back to bookend Darrell Green and are down a high draft pick whose impact we would will never know and have a mediocre running back whose only real highlite was his first carry as a Skin...an 80 yard skamper to the end zone. After that? In the mean time Phillip Rivers and Trent Green were terrified of throwing the ball anywhere near Champ. Let us face facts...Portis is jovial and fun while Champ is stuck on himself...but Champ is going to the Hall and Portis is going somewhere other than DC next season. And what is with you amature psychologists perporting to understand what makes this man tick? Fact is, he has brought up an issue...an issue on the verge of a destraction on the verge of creating a running back controversy which could divide feelings. He is motivating himself? How by sitting out practice while Betts and others are busting their humps? GET OUT! He should be gone. We paid a high price for this man...he should be flattered...and that should be enough to motivate him...that Gibbs and company thought he was worth a Hall of Famer and a pick. Hey CP...get bent.

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[quote=44Dive;345281]Bailey didn't want to play here? Who says? Money talks and if the money was right he'd still be a Skin today. Instead, we have lost a Hall of Fame corner back to bookend Darrell Green and are down a high draft pick whose impact we would will never know and have a mediocre running back whose only real highlite was his first carry as a Skin...an 80 yard skamper to the end zone. After that? In the mean time Phillip Rivers and Trent Green were terrified of throwing the ball anywhere near Champ. Let us face facts...Portis is jovial and fun while Champ is stuck on himself...but Champ is going to the Hall and Portis is going somewhere other than DC next season. And what is with you amature psychologists perporting to understand what makes this man tick? Fact is, he has brought up an issue...an issue on the verge of a destraction on the verge of creating a running back controversy which could divide feelings. He is motivating himself? How by sitting out practice while Betts and others are busting their humps? GET OUT! He should be gone. We paid a high price for this man...he should be flattered...and that should be enough to motivate him...that Gibbs and company thought he was worth a Hall of Famer and a pick. Hey CP...get bent.[/quote]

Mediocre RB? C'mon bro, come back down to earth for a moment.

Funny that you're accusing people of being amateur psychologists, yet just before that you proceeded to give your amateur diagnosis of how CP ticks and that he's gone after this year... and that Champ would have stayed for the money. So I guess it's worth asking where did you get your PhD from?

Trust me, he wasn't coming back for the money. There are rumors that he needed to get out of town for personal reasons. Draw your own conclusions.

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Redskins are 13-1 when that bum rushes for over 100 yards.

It's ridiculous to question the man's desire. Maybe people should start to pay attention to what he does when he's on the field and doesn't have the ball in his hands. Watch him block, watch him run after a defender after a turnover (the reason he got hurt last summer). Pay some effin attention to what he does, instead of bitching about his sense of humor, his costumes, and a trade that happened three years ago.















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(Champ definitely wanted out)[/SIZE]

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[QUOTE=44Dive;345276]I was pretty upset with this trade from jump street. Any back is great in Denver...I thought he was too slight for the ground and pound...and Champ Bailey and a PICK!...I was scratching my head, but keeping the faith. Now I remember why I was pissed. I was hoping they'd get LaMont Jordan who was being shopped by the Jets at that time. Big fast and mean and would have loved to been behind this line as opposed to the Raidassss.
PEACE[/QUOTE]

Ummm, are you serious?
Lamont Jordan????
Jordan has had (count em) 1 1000+ yard season, and that was just barely at 1025 yards. (his second best season is only 479 yards BTW) Also, since he has become a starter, he averages only 3.8 yards per carry...that's awful!

Fact is, when Portis is healthy, he's a top 5-7 back!

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[quote=SmootSmack;345285]It's ridiculous to question the man's desire. Maybe people should start to pay attention to what he does when he's on the field and doesn't have the ball in his hands. Watch him block, watch him run after a defender after a turnover (the reason he got hurt last summer). Pay some effin attention to what he does, instead of bitching about his sense of humor, his costumes, and a trade that happened three years ago.[/quote]

A effing Men! I don't get why so many people look for a reason to hate one of the most talented all around tailbacks in the game.

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Well, since we're busting out the stats for Portis, I thought this was pretty interesting:

Since Portis has been here, it always seemed to me that he hasn't really put up the yardage against NFC East opponents, especially when we're playing away. So I thought I'd look it up. Turns out, I was right...

Going back to 2004, Portis has played a total of seven games away against Dallas, Philly and the G-strings. His average? 55 yards per game. Only once has rushed for over 100 yards against an NFC East rival outside of Fed Ex Field -- at Philly in 2005 (27 carries, 112 yards). Through 15 games in total in the NFC East, he averages a very modest 73 yards per game.

Now I'm not saying Portis wasn't worth it. He's a hell of a player, and it's hard to imagine what might have been without him. But if I had a critique of Portis, it would be this -- How he stacks up and performs against our biggest rivals in six of the most pivotal games of the year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;345097]Don't worry, 500 carries is an excellent way to end a RB's career right on the spot.

Since I guess that's your goal or something.[/quote]

Um, no, I would want him to earn his check this year. That is what you call an exaggeration. I know that when you are 19 you think you know everything but basically the best part of you ran down your mom's leg. So study up and shut your mouth.

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[quote=SmootSmack;345285]Redskins are 13-1 when that bum rushes for over 100 yards.

It's ridiculous to question the man's desire. Maybe people should start to pay attention to what he does when he's on the field and doesn't have the ball in his hands. Watch him block, watch him run after a defender after a turnover (the reason he got hurt last summer). Pay some effin attention to what he does, instead of bitching about his sense of humor, his costumes, and a trade that happened three years ago.




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They dont' know the game. All they do is cherry pick stats and listen to some loudmouth on TV or the radio who thinks that 40 gut is their pant size.

Portis is a true baller and the best runningback on the team. Anyone who can't see that might as well stick to Madden

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;345497]Well, since we're busting out the stats for Portis, I thought this was pretty interesting:

Since Portis has been here, it always seemed to me that he hasn't really put up the yardage against NFC East opponents, especially when we're playing away. So I thought I'd look it up. Turns out, I was right...

Going back to 2004, Portis has played a total of seven games away against Dallas, Philly and the G-strings. His average? 55 yards per game. Only once has rushed for over 100 yards against an NFC East rival outside of Fed Ex Field -- at Philly in 2005 (27 carries, 112 yards). Through 15 games in total in the NFC East, he averages a very modest 73 yards per game.

Now I'm not saying Portis wasn't worth it. He's a hell of a player, and it's hard to imagine what might have been without him. But if I had a critique of Portis, it would be this -- How he stacks up and performs against our biggest rivals in six of the most pivotal games of the year.[/QUOTE]

Those are some great stats...I did not know that. That is most certainly something to be concerned about.

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[b]Portis Isn't Going Anywhere! End Of Story![/b] How in the Hell is this crap still going?

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[QUOTE=angryssg;345643][b]Portis Isn't Going Anywhere! End Of Story![/b] How in the Hell is this crap still going?[/QUOTE]

If he only plays say 8 games (like he did last year) and Betts goes over 100 regularly like he did last year, do you seriously think Portis will be here in 08?

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[quote=jsarno;345658]If he only plays say 8 games (like he did last year) and Betts goes over 100 regularly like he did last year, do you seriously think Portis will be here in 08?[/quote]

To put it simply, YES! Because if he only plays 8 games he was hurt. Springs was not released this year was he? I'm done end of story.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;345690]To put it simply, YES! Because if he only plays 8 games he was hurt. Springs was not released this year was he? I'm done end of story.[/QUOTE]

But the key there is that we didn't have any depth at CB...in fact, even injured, he was still our best CB. If Portis gets hurt, Betts is a great back up. He's no Portis, granted, but he works very well in our system.

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[quote=jsarno;345705]But the key there is that we didn't have any depth at CB...in fact, even injured, he was still our best CB. If Portis gets hurt, Betts is a great back up. He's no Portis, granted, but he works very well in our system.[/quote]


we cut portis we have no depth at RB and Grim that was gross and AMEN SS. Portis will return to form and will be here in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;345609]Um, no, I would want him to earn his check this year. That is what you call an exaggeration. I know that when you are 19 you think you know everything but basically the best part of you ran down your mom's leg. So study up and shut your mouth.[/quote]That comeback really sucked. I'm almost offended that no one called you out on it. Guess they are probably just used to it by now.

Irrelivant bickering aside, the carry limit for a running back to break down the next season seems to be consistent around 370 carries in a season. Larry Johnson just received more carries than any back in NFL history at 416 (his 2007 will demonstrate my point). 500 is way more than 416.

I'd really like to tell you that I can help your out with your verbal diahrehhea, but I really don't think there's a cure for thinking that Clinton Portis should carry the ball 500 times to "earn his check." That's just crazy talk.

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On that note, locking this thread.

Tripp and Grim....well, you know