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A team can't win the Super Bowl in September (Cowboys) but they can sure make it difficult to win (Eagles).

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[quote=#56fanatic;358404]exactly!! my point from another thread last week. Everyone wants to make excuses about why we lose. Good teams win the games they should win, and if the teams Dallas has beaten end up as crappy teams, well, the did what they should have. Dominated them. Cant say the same for us can we??[/quote]Dallas may be downright scary if their defense catches up to their offense. Regarding good teams, they get on a roll by winning games they should, protecting their home field, and stealing a few against superior teams. Want to know how many winning streaks the Skins have had during Gibbs 2.0? Four total:

2004: none
2005: two - 3 game streak to open and 5 game streak to close the season
2006: one - 2 game streak (Houston & Jacksonville)
2007: one - 2 game streak to open this season

During the same period, we've endured [B]nine[/B] losing streaks. We are in year 4 of Gibbs 2.0. Gibbs has had final say on player personnel, and The Danny has granted his every wish in assembling the most expensive coaching staff in history. It is time for this highly paid staff to put up or shut up, starting next week against Detroit. That is a home game against another potential playoff rival that you MUST win if you're a serious post-season contender.

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[quote=SouperMeister;358439]Dallas may be downright scary if their defense catches up to their offense. [/quote]

Exactly, and after week 4 Dallas defense has leap-frogged to #7 in total defense in the NFL. After being 25th in week 1, I'd like to think that the defense is improving at a nice pace.

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[quote=TheBigD;358411]WOW, you know what, this site is great. Not because of some people praising Dallas, don't get me wrong. I mean I can only imagine how hard it is to say what paulskinsfan just said coming form a Redskins fan. I am a member of Cowboys discussion boards, and let me tell you, there might be few of them who will say the Redskins are good when they are 4-0, but most of them won't. There are far more intelligent FOOTBALL fans here than any other site I have been too.[/quote]


That's why I come here ,nothing wrong with being a homer just be honest and these guys usally are.:)

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[quote=Giantone;358443]That's why I come here ,nothing wrong with being a homer just be honest and these guys usally are.:)[/quote]

Speaking of the Giants, I've always fellt they are one of these teams they could finish dead last or win the whole division.

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While I think Dallas is good, I still want to see them play a decent team. I don't see anyone in their upcoming schedule besides the Pats, and even that won't be a good gauge of how good they are.

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The combined records of Dallas' opponents over the first four weeks is 3-13. How does this not come up more often? In none of the commentary, none of the power rankings, football shows, nobody mentions it.

I'm not saying the Cowboys are terrible, but they have yet to be really tested when their opponents are a combined 3-13. Yes, they have won the games they are supposed to win, which is an excellent start and certainly something the Skins haven't managed to do. But before we hand over the Lombardi trophy and crown Dallas the next dynasty, let's wait until they play a competitive football team.

They do have one hell of a weak schedule this season and I would say will be a playoff contender for sure. Besides the always hard to predict NFC East matchups, the only other quality team they play is NE in week 6.

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yea dallas is pretty much torching opposing teams right now. haven't they scored over 30 points in all their games so far ? we still havent even hit the 21 points mark yet, but like everyone says its still early in the season so we'll see what happens.

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[quote=SouperMeister;358439]Dallas may be downright scary if their defense catches up to their offense. Regarding good teams, they get on a roll by winning games they should, protecting their home field, and stealing a few against superior teams. Want to know how many winning streaks the Skins have had during Gibbs 2.0? Four total:

2004: none
2005: two - 3 game streak to open and 5 game streak to close the season
2006: one - 2 game streak (Houston & Jacksonville)
2007: one - 2 game streak to open this season

During the same period, we've endured [B]nine[/B] losing streaks. We are in year 4 of Gibbs 2.0. Gibbs has had final say on player personnel, and The Danny has granted his every wish in assembling the most expensive coaching staff in history. It is time for this highly paid staff to put up or shut up, starting next week against Detroit. That is a home game against another potential playoff rival that you MUST win if you're a serious post-season contender.[/quote]

AMEN! We can't be losing to the Lions and Giants at home.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;358454]While I think Dallas is good, I still want to see them play a decent team. I don't see anyone in their upcoming schedule besides the Pats, and even that won't be a good gauge of how good they are.[/QUOTE]But the problem is if they're playing all these supposedly crappy teams they have a good chance to end up with a great record and homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.
As Giggity pointed out, they could conceivably start the season out by going 6-1 or even 7-0 before their bye week. If the NFC is really filled with so many crap teams then starting out in that fashion will surely put them at the top of the conference.
Granted, just because they start out hot it doesn't mean that they'll end the season on the same kind of tear, but I just don't get how you can discount 4 straight beat downs. Are you going to tell me the Pats aren't really that good because so far they've only beat the Jets, Chargers (the Norv-version), and the Bills?
What's more important: Who they beat or How they beat them? I'd have to say it's how they beat them.

(obviously the injury bug can strike and a team can quickly crash back to Earth, rendering all this moot)

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[quote=TheBigD;358411]WOW, you know what, this site is great. Not because of some people praising Dallas, don't get me wrong. I mean I can only imagine how hard it is to say what paulskinsfan just said coming form a Redskins fan. I am a member of Cowboys discussion boards, and let me tell you, there might be few of them who will say the Redskins are good when they are 4-0, but most of them won't. There are far more intelligent FOOTBALL fans here than any other site I have been too.[/quote]


We love the Skins, but we also love the game. I would also say the cowboys currently look a lot better than Green Bay right now. I was most impressed with the Chicago win and think if they win over New England, that would remove all questions about who is the best in the NFC.

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[quote=mheisig;358456]The combined records of Dallas' opponents over the first four weeks is 3-13. How does this not come up more often? In none of the commentary, none of the power rankings, football shows, nobody mentions it. [/quote]

When Dallas played the Giants they were 0-0 and when they played the Bears they were 1-1 and only the Dolphins and Rams had losing records of 0-1 and 0-3 respectively. If the Giants, Dolphins, Bears, and Rams (hypothetically) win their next 3 or 4 games, how is that going helping Dallas?

[quote=mheisig;358456]
They do have one hell of a weak schedule this season and I would say will be a playoff contender for sure. Besides the always hard to predict NFC East matchups, the only other quality team they play is NE in week 6. [/quote]

LOL, they have the same schedule as the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles except for two games I believe. All the Cowboys fans, before the Giants game, were saying that the Redskins have an easy schedule and could go 5-0. Given that the Redskins play at NE and Dallas plays them at home, but you still have to play the game.

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[quote=TheBigD;358469]When Dallas played the Giants they were 0-0 and when they played the Bears they were 1-1 and only the Dolphins and Rams had losing records of 0-1 and 0-3 respectively. If the Giants, Dolphins, Bears, and Rams (hypothetically) win their next 3 or 4 games, how is that going helping Dallas?



LOL, they have the same schedule as the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles except for two games I believe. All the Cowboys fans, before the Giants game, were saying that the Redskins have an easy schedule and could go 5-0. Given that the Redskins play at NE and Dallas plays them at home, but you still have to play the game.[/quote]

That's the bottom line, you have to play the game. Three weeks ago, many of us here probably would have thought the Lions were pushovers, not so now. These boys are going to throwing the ball left and right.

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[quote=12thMan;358470]That's the bottom line, you have to play the game. Three weeks ago, many of us here probably would have thought the Lions were pushovers, not so now. These boys are going to throwing the ball left and right.[/quote]

Amen,

Any given sunday....heck the Browns could win against Baltimore (I hate Clevland, now that Dallas has their pick, they are winning games).

I don't think the Redskins are worried about them throwing, the D is much better now. The problem is can the offense socre enough points to win the game.

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[quote=paulskinsfan;358252]Hey man, you think Im happy about this? Who is better than Dallas in the NFC right now?[/quote]Seattle. Tampa. Probably us. Maybe even GB, idk.

Dallas' offense is top notch. I missed bad on my projection of them. However, that defense is what we thought they were.

Their most impressive victory was probably their ten point home win over the Giants. Sorry, our eight point victory over Philadelphia is more impressive.

I must admit that at the time, I was incredibly impressed with their victory over the Bears. However, until the Bears find their running game, they aren't going to beat anyone now.

Dallas can have their five and oh start, and then we can wait and watch while New England waxes them in two weeks.

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[quote=GiantsSuck703;358297]Why is Romo better? is it because he puts up big numbers. Romo is a good QB, but the season is four games long, hell Matt Schaub is having a great season, does that mean the Texans are going to the Superbowl. You obviously dont understand something, big numbers doesnt always equal superbowl wins. Roethlisberger never throws for a ton of TD or yards, but guess what hes got a superbowl ring, Dan Marino put up huge numbers and after today(thanks to Brett Favre) really has nothing to show for it, big numbers mean nothing if you cant hold the ball on a field goal attempt when your team needs you the most, give Romo some more games before you jump on his crotch, he was pretty bad in the games leading up to the playoffs last year, so give it some time.[/quote]Are you saying Roethlisberger is better than Marino?

You sir have earned your punch in the face.

:boxing:

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[quote=skinsfan69;358312]I never said they were great. I just said they are beating the teams they are suppose to beat. We lost to the Giants at home blowing a big lead.[/quote]Wasn't New York a much better team, defensively especially, when they beat us as opposed to when Dallas put up a 45 spot on them?

Yes, Dallas' offense is better than ours, but if New York had been as awful against the run and pass in Week 3 as they were in Week 1, that game probably wouldn't have been close.

I said that Dallas' win over the Bears in Chicago was really freakin impressive, but as it gets farther in the rear view mirror, it's already starting to look like a game they should have won.

I think the Giants will beat the Cowboys the next time they play. With all the pub Romo is getting, I think a lot of people are underrating the job Eli has been doing. Hell, I think a lot of people on here are underrating Eli...and he just put together a hell of a game on our home field to beat us.

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Thats what I was doing when Romo dropped that gimme field goal snap last year

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[quote=mheisig;358456]The combined records of Dallas' opponents over the first four weeks is 3-13. How does this not come up more often? In none of the commentary, none of the power rankings, football shows, nobody mentions it.

I'm not saying the Cowboys are terrible, but they have yet to be really tested when their opponents are a combined 3-13. Yes, they have won the games they are supposed to win, which is an excellent start and certainly something the Skins haven't managed to do. But before we hand over the Lombardi trophy and crown Dallas the next dynasty, let's wait until they play a competitive football team.

They do have one hell of a weak schedule this season and I would say will be a playoff contender for sure. Besides the always hard to predict NFC East matchups, the only other quality team they play is NE in week 6.[/quote]


we basically have the same schedule as they do. Funny how our schedule is interprited as tough on this site.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;358463]But the problem is if they're playing all these supposedly crappy teams they have a good chance to end up with a great record and homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.
As Giggity pointed out, they could conceivably start the season out by going 6-1 or even 7-0 before their bye week. If the NFC is really filled with so many crap teams then starting out in that fashion will surely put them at the top of the conference.
Granted, just because they start out hot it doesn't mean that they'll end the season on the same kind of tear, but I just don't get how you can discount 4 straight beat downs. Are you going to tell me the Pats aren't really that good because so far they've only beat the Jets, Chargers (the Norv-version), and the Bills?
What's more important: Who they beat or How they beat them? I'd have to say it's how they beat them.

(obviously the injury bug can strike and a team can quickly crash back to Earth, rendering all this moot)[/quote]

I don't know. If the COWBOYS had played that schedule I'd feel a lot more certain how for-real they are. I would have loved to have seen them versus the Jets and Chargers.

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[quote=Redskin;358478]Thats what I was doing when Romo dropped that gimme field goal snap last year[/quote]

Yeah me too, when Betts got tripped up on 4th and goal! Right after the Giants went on a 24-0 run in the second half.

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Unfortunately, the Cowboys do look for real. Their offense is somewhat scary, the way its can score so quickly. The Redskins better start scoring in the 20s and 30s to hang with the Cowboys, Packers and Patriots.

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[quote=GTripp0012;358475]Wasn't New York a much better team, defensively especially, when they beat us as opposed to when Dallas put up a 45 spot on them?

Yes, Dallas' offense is better than ours, but if New York had been as awful against the run and pass in Week 3 as they were in Week 1, that game probably wouldn't have been close.

I said that Dallas' win over the Bears in Chicago was really freakin impressive, but as it gets farther in the rear view mirror, it's already starting to look like a game they should have won.

I think the Giants will beat the Cowboys the next time they play. With all the pub Romo is getting, I think a lot of people are underrating the job Eli has been doing. Hell, I think a lot of people on here are underrating Eli...and he just put together a hell of a game on our home field to beat us.[/quote]

Eli is really playing some good football right now. No question about that. Another guy that impresses me is Garcia. He's not flashy and he won't blow you away with stats. But all he seems to do is get the job done.

To me if you can win on the road against the NFC Champs then that is very impressive. Chi. is still a good team. Plus they are getting killed by injuries. It will be interesting to see how they will address the qb situation next year.

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[quote=Twilbert07;358496]Unfortunately, the Cowboys do look for real. Their offense is somewhat scary, the way its can score so quickly. The Redskins better start scoring in the 20s and 30s to hang with the Cowboys, Packers and Patriots.[/quote]

The thing is they don't even have Glenn and they are still putting up alot of points.

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Dallas is getting it done right now, I'm not trying to take anything away from them, but we're 4 games in. Anything can happen between now and week 17, that goes for the other teams that everyone is drooling over including the Patriots. There's just too much football to go to get too excited over anyone.

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They don't give out rings in September or October. Dallas is very good but it's a long haul from here. Romo could get hurt. Owens could get hurt. They may even play a team that figures out you have to cover Whitten. Lots of things can happen.

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[quote=Mattyk72;358508]Dallas is getting it done right now, I'm not trying to take anything away from them, but we're 4 games in. Anything can happen between now and week 17, that goes for the other teams that everyone is drooling over including the Patriots. There's just too much football to go to get too excited over anyone.[/quote]

Agreed. It's funny to me that everyone is blowing Dallas and New England. I've even heard an ESPN radio guy call the Pats a "perfect" football team. Meanwhile, the Colts and Packers are also undefeated, and have played better all around football against better teams. But it's much too early to put any of these teams in the Superbowl. I'll be very surprised if the Cowboys can finish the season with the same spark they've shown the last few weeks.

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Admittedly the Cowboys' success makes me nervous, but I am going to reserve my judgment. The only team they have beaten that seems like it might actually be decent this year is the Giants, and despite our loss to them last week I think we are just as good of a team if not better.

I would have said that the win over the Bears was impressive, but after seeing them fall to 1-3 after being embarrassed by the Lions I think they will be the biggest disappointment in the NFC this year.

Honestly, as always the NFC is WIDE OPEN, anyone has a chance to make it to the big game this year. It all comes down to how you play in any given week. Although the loss to the Giants was disheartening, and we ourselves have had no impressive wins this season either, I am feeling a little better about our chances to make it to the playoffs this season after this week's games. I will feel confident even if we can manage to come out of the bye and beat the Lions, Packers, and Cards. If we don't it will be tough to hold out hope, because the rest of the season is gonna be very very tough.

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[quote=Southpaw;358515]Agreed. It's funny to me that everyone is blowing Dallas and New England. I've even heard an ESPN radio guy call the Pats a "perfect" football team. Meanwhile, the Colts and Packers are also undefeated, and have played better all around football against better teams. But it's much too early to put any of these teams in the Superbowl. I'll be very surprised if the Cowboys can finish the season with the same spark they've shown the last few weeks.[/quote]Let's be honest, Dallas and New England deserve the accolades they're receiving at the quarter pole of the season. Who else would you predict for the Super Bowl at this point? That can change quickly with injuries, slumps, etc. I still say that the Skins back 7 on defense give us a fighting chance to match up against their passing attack. The fact that Owens visibly avoids Sean Taylor plays in our favor. The guy who really worries me is Whitten. I hope that we don't try to cover him with a linebacker, I like our chances better with either Taylor or Landry.

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[quote=12thMan;358444]Speaking of the Giants, I've always fellt they are one of these teams they could finish dead last or win the whole division.[/quote]


I'm very torn this year becuase I feel the same way,I want the team to win and I think they can win..........yet I hate Coughlin with a passsion and if we must lose to get a new coach then so be it!

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[quote=canthetuna;358246]you wanna crown em??!!! go ahead... crown their asses!!!!![/quote]

They are who we thought they were!!

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[quote=Giantone;358533]I'm very torn this year becuase I feel the same way,I want the team to win and I think they can win..........yet I hate Coughlin with a passsion and if we must lose to get a new coach then so be it![/quote]

Let me tell you something, in times like these Coughlin is just what the doctor ordered.

If the Giants are sitting at 5-2 in a few weeks, you'll be thinking otherwise.

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[quote=hooskins;358535]They are who we thought they were!![/quote]

....and we let 'em off the hook!!! they are who we thought they were!!

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[quote=WillH;358520]Admittedly the Cowboys' success makes me nervous, but I am going to reserve my judgment. The only team they have beaten that seems like it might actually be decent this year is the Giants, and despite our loss to them last week I think we are just as good of a team if not better.

I would have said that the win over the Bears was impressive, but after seeing them fall to 1-3 after being embarrassed by the Lions I think they will be the biggest disappointment in the NFC this year.

Honestly, as always the NFC is WIDE OPEN, anyone has a chance to make it to the big game this year. It all comes down to how you play in any given week. Although the loss to the Giants was disheartening, and we ourselves have had no impressive wins this season either, I am feeling a little better about our chances to make it to the playoffs this season after this week's games. I will feel confident even if we can manage to come out of the bye and beat the Lions, Packers, and Cards. If we don't it will be tough to hold out hope, because the rest of the season is gonna be very very tough.[/quote]

Well, I am not saying that Dallas is the best team in the NFC or top 3, that is all subjective. I will say this though, the Giants beat the Redskins and Philly and Dallas beat the Giants even though they had Jacobs for half of that game. Other common opponents, Dallas beat the Dolphins in Miami by more than two TDs when the Redskins needed OT to finish them off.

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right now I just dont see how we will match up against the Cowboys, patriots, packers,even the Lions for that fact. the first few games we have played pretty much have been up in the air. the Dolphins game could have gone the oposite way.. who knows. the philly game had McNabb made some better throws to OPEN receivers would have been different. The Giants in the second half hit those receivers and moved the ball on our suposed good D. I am not convinced our D is all that good. Romo, Favre, Brady, Kitna have the weapons that will eat our secondary up. if we dont get consistant pressure on the QB we will be in trouble. and right now, the cover 3 zone crap will get eaten up by these good QBs. I pray to the football gods GW learns how to spell BLITZ again, because if we dont the Lions are going to have a field day at Fed X this weekend.

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I am very affraid of the Lions, if we beat them...then we can think about beating the cowboys. But the rivalry always gives us a shot

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The goal of every team is to make the playoffs. And the first step to that goal is to win your division. I don't care if the Cowboys are ranked higher or lower than say the Patriots or Colts.

First things first is win the division and get to the playoffs. Dallas does NOT have to beat 16 teams to get there. They just have to beat more than the other 3 team in the NFC East. Thats all. And right now they have a 1 1/2 game jump on those teams. Compare them to the Patriots all you want. Whether or not they bode well against New England does not get them to the post season.

Who cares whether are not they are the best team in the NFC right now? All that matters at this point is to get to a spot where they are the best team in the NFC East at the end of December.

Same thing goes for Washington, New York and Philly.

Then, once in the playoffs, anything can happen.

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Through 4 games it's obvious Dallas and the Packers look like the teams to beat in the NFC. They've taken care of their business and looked good along the way.

The skins need to get a "W" this week and get an impressive performance. W/ an impressive offensive/defensive performance i think we could be right there or just a step under the Pack/Boys.

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I agree that, [U]right now[/U], the Cowboys and the Packers are the teams to beat in the NFC. But, remember, it is a long season. Romo looks like the real deal right now, but he also looked like the real deal early last season.....only to look like a mediocre QB towards the end of the season.

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[quote=GTripp0012;358473]Are you saying Roethlisberger is better than Marino?

You sir have earned your punch in the face.

:boxing:[/quote]

Never said that buddy, if you would have read, I was basically stating that no matter how many yards a QB puts up, its doesnt always equal championships. And just so you know, I consider Marino the greatest QB ever