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[quote=Schneed10;371864]Because our secret is out. Our offense is now so transparent. It got absolutely shut down two weeks in a row by the Cardinals and Patriots. We scored 21 on the Cards, but that's only because Warner turned it over and gave us a short field. Hell, one of those TDs was a defensive TD. Both teams applied blitz pressure up the middle and chased Campbell out of the pocket as an unhealthy Rabach and Fabini can't hold up in there. We only run to one side of the field, which makes us so much easier to defend. I still like our defense, even with Rogers hurt, so we'll be in games. But we're going to struggle to score.[/quote]

Good post, and I am sure the coaches know that. Real question is can we do anything significant to our offense? Especially with the Oline injuries.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;371859]Yes we did beat them. Barely. McNabb missed a wide open Curtis on the goaline that would have tied the game. McNabb played terrible. It looks like he is coming around and is getting healthy. I would not expect him to play that bad again. When Philly comes down here it's going to go down to the wire.[/QUOTE]

Why should the Eagles get some credit for barely losing to some teams, while we don't get credit for beating the Eagles by more than a touchdown. And, McNabb didn't miss a wide open Curtis on the goaline. Curtis got his ass handed to him by Laron Landry. Moreover, even if Curtis had caught that ball, it would not have been a tied game. Curtis was hit by Landry at the 3 yard line, not in the end zone. Even assuming McNabb got the ball back and scored a TD, they would have had to convert for 2 to tie the game.

But, I think you are right and when Philly comes to D.C., it is going to be a good, close game. In fact Philly could beat us (on any given Sunday). But, I still don't think they are a good team.

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So I told a friend of mine that the Redskins were going to the playoffs. He laughed, so I challenged him to a bet. If we go, I get to shave his head into a mohawk. If we don't go, he gets to shave my head in whatever fashion he so pleases. Keep in mind, we're lawyers and clients do not want to see their counsel wearing a mohawk.

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I said yes, but that all depends on the next two weeks. If we don't win the next two weeks I am going to change to NO. But I truely beleive we will win the next two weeks.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan242;371880]I said yes, but that all depends on the next two weeks. If we don't win the next two weeks I am going to change to NO. But I truely beleive we will win the next two weeks.[/QUOTE]

I think that, sadly, we will lose one of the next two games. We should win both, but nothing is guaranteed. But, we will likely win a game or two we shouldn't win.

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Certainly if they play Collins and let Al run the offense
If ever get a chance to play fantasy, look at the qb before you pick a wide receiver
Moss and Welker play with a qb

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371639]I understand why there is a lot of gloom and doom sentiment around here. I would have to be a blind optimist to think that we don't have some serious problems. The running game is the worst we've seen in years, the passing game has sputtered, we've lost Jansen and Rogers for the season, Thomas might not come back until mid-December, we barely beat Miami and Arizona, and we got demolished by the Patriots.

With all that being said, I strongly believe that this team will make the playoffs and here is why. Yes, the defense got demolished by the Patriots, but what defense wouldn't? The defense is stout and, with the emergence of Rocky McIntosh and the additions of guys like Laron Landry, London Fletcher, and even David Macklin, this defense will return to form next week. The offensive line is really banged up, but I cannot help but think that time itself and Buges' coaching up will help [I]improve [/I]things (even if the O-line doesn't become a source of strength). Portis, Moss and Betts, IMO, are not the Hall of Famers we want them to be, but they are too good to continue playing like they have. Does anyone really think Portis, Moss, and Betts can play any worse? Jason Campbell is young and has just 14 starts under his belt and [I]should[/I] improve with time. Finally, after this Sunday we [I]should[/I] be 5-3 in a weak NFC with a schedule that isn't a cakewalk, but isn't exactly tough.

So, my question to you is, will the Redskins make the playoffs this season?[/QUOTE]

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Yes.

That makes 59 real fans...40 who need to find a new team and 8 Patriots fans. :D

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371878]So I told a friend of mine that the Redskins were going to the playoffs. He laughed, so I challenged him to a bet. If we go, I get to shave his head into a mohawk. If we don't go, he gets to shave my head in whatever fashion he so pleases. [B]Keep in mind, we're lawyers[/B] and clients do not want to see their counsel wearing a mohawk.[/quote]


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.


Don't worry, you'll win this one.

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We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in Dallas,
we shall fight on the grass and on the turf,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Stadium , whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight against the Giants ,
we shall fight against Da Bears,
we shall fight in the New Sombrero and in the Meadowlands,
we shall fight in the Metrodome;
we shall never surrender!

So yea, like I said earlier were going to the playoffs.

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I'm in shock after last weeks game. I have never seen a Redskin team look so helpless and lost in my entire life............

I voted yes but have to do some serious thinking about this team............

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I voted no as of right now. 10-6 and we are probably in. I'm not sure we can win 6 more games. Besides believing that the skins will win every week, i've got to look at our team from an unbiased point of view. Are we better than the boys and gmen in our own division? No, not right now. Are we that much better than the eagles? No.

We can't score points. We can't win w/out scoring points. I can go on about our D and how much they are improved, which is true, but our offense leaves them on the field too long.

We do have a good chance but it's hard for me to say yes right now. We need to get the O fixed immediately.

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[quote=Buster;371888]Yes.

That makes 59 real fans...40 who need to find a new team and 8 Patriots fans. :D[/quote]

Uhh, make that 58, I voted yes, but remember where my roots lie.

I like you guys, but not that much!

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;371903]Uhh, make that 58, I voted yes, but remember where my roots lie.

I like you guys, but not that much![/QUOTE]

You're like Darth Vader, on the outside you're pure evil, but there is still good in you. I know that, one day, you will come to the Burgundy and Gold side of the force. :woot:

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371912]You're like Darth Vader, on the outside you're pure evil, but there is still good in you. I know that, one day, you will come to the Burgundy and Gold side of the force. :woot:[/quote]

You think a guy that used to throw darts at a John Riggins poster when he was younger can even make that leap?

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371849]They can't score on offense, their defense isn't good, they've got a losing record, and I just don't think they are a good team anymore. I do not necessarily think they are a bad team (I overstated things), but they are not a good team.

But, if as you say, Philly is not a bad team that has had tough losses, why do you think that we won't make the playoffs? After all, we have a winning record, we beat the Eagles (a supposedly average team) by more than a touchdown, we had two tough losses, and we got blown out or beaten badly in just one game against the best team in the league.[/quote]

Let's just throw out who we have to play and focus on our team. Just by watching the last three games I can see in the teams play that we are just not good enough.

We have a good, but not great defense and a bad offense and a somewhat shaky and unproven kicker. That does not = a playoff team to me. And even if we somehow sneak in it's going to be one and done.

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We will make the playoffs......even if it's with a wildcard.

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[quote=skinsfan69;371827]So how can you be so sure we are going to even make it to 9-7?? We have to play Dallas twice. That could very well be two L's.[/quote]Well, we are a better than average football team, so we [I]deserve[/I] to make it to 9 wins. With a little luck, we can get 11.

Deserving only gets you so fair, but I can't predict as to have an unfair world.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371849]They can't score on offense, their defense isn't good, they've got a losing record, and I just don't think they are a good team anymore. I do not necessarily think they are a bad team (I overstated things), but they are not a good team.

But, if as you say, Philly is not a bad team that has had tough losses, why do you think that we won't make the playoffs? After all, we have a winning record, we beat the Eagles (a supposedly average team) by more than a touchdown, we had two tough losses, and we got blown out or beaten badly in just one game against the best team in the league.[/quote]What brings you to think that Philly isn't at least average? Their record is average. They've scored more points than they've given up. They have a really good offense (not sure what you mean by "[URL="http://www.nfl.com/standings"]can't score[/URL]" as they average 20 pts per game. That's league average, and they are way more efficient that that to make up for a bend but dont break D) and a "meh" defense. That's better than average, is it not?

They have been pretty bad in the red zone, but historically McNabb has been a good Red Zone passer, so I would expect that trend to stop.

I think we are a better team than Philly, but their skill and ours seem to be right in the same area.

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Probably not. Here's how I see the rest of the season.

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9-7 won't cut it. Here's your playoff teams:

Dallas
Green Bay
New Orleans
Seattle
New York
Tampa Bay

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[quote=Buster;371888]Yes.

That makes 59 real fans...40 who need to find a new team and 8 Patriots fans. :D[/quote]

Reason number 437 why your opinions posted here are rendered meaningless by blind faith.

If you're always coming down on the optimistic side, how can your opinions possibly be considered valid? They're rife with bias.

There's what you WANT to happen, and then there's what you THINK will happen. There's a difference.

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They will make the playoffs only because the rest of the NFC is very weak. The Cowboys, Packers, Panthers and Seahawks are going to win their perspective divisions. The Giants look like the front runner for the first wild card position. That means the Skins are competing against the Lions, Vikings, Tampa Bay and Cardinals for the final wildcard. The Skins have already beaten the Vikings and Cardinals.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;371936]Probably not. Here's how I see the rest of the season.


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9-7 won't cut it. Here's your playoff teams:

Dallas
Green Bay
New Orleans
Seattle
New York
Tampa Bay[/quote]

Dude. Put down the pipe! The Skins will beat the Jets and the Bucs. I don't know about splitting with the Cowboys, that might be two losses. But I think they will rebound and take out the Giants. I'm thinking 11-5 at worst 10-6 which will still be good enough for the second wildcard.

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[quote=Schneed10;371939]Reason number 437 why your opinions posted here are rendered meaningless by blind faith.

If you're always coming down on the optimistic side, how can your opinions possibly be considered valid? They're rife with bias.

There's what you WANT to happen, and then there's what you THINK will happen. There's a difference.[/quote]

This is why your fandom is rendered invalid, it's rife with unfaithfulness. :cheeky-sm

Come down off your high horse and put your dictionary away, it's called being a true fan. If you don't root for your team to win EVERY week, even if they're 0-15 and playing the defending Super Bowl champs who need a win to make the playoffs...if you're predicting a loss and have no confidence in them, you're not as much of a fan as you think.

Sure the Jets suck and they don't have much of a chance this week, but the people who really love their team are coming to the game or sitting on their couch with their jerseys and are anxious to see a win. I did the same last week, despite the reality of records and stats and will do it every week until I die because I am a Redskins fan no matter how good or bad they are. Sometimes our team will pull out upsets and I and other Skins fans will be jumping up and down, glad we had the faith in our guys to do it, while some pessimists will have to say "glad they won, but I wasn't behind them all the way."

I love stats and numbers, it's actually what I do for a living. I can post plenty of stats and make great points with them, but come Sunday, none of them matter to be because I'm behind my team no matter what numbers, Las Vegas or the media says.

Sorry if you can't say the same.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;371934]What brings you to think that Philly isn't at least average? Their record is average. They've scored more points than they've given up. They have a really good offense (not sure what you mean by "[URL="http://www.nfl.com/standings"]can't score[/URL]" as they average 20 pts per game. That's league average, and they are way more efficient that that to make up for a bend but dont break D) and a "meh" defense. That's better than average, is it not?[/QUOTE]

The Eagles scored [U]13 points[/U] against Green Bay, which allows an average of 17 points. They scored [U]12 points[/U] against us and we're allowing an average of 20 points per game (granted that stat is skewed because of New England). They scored [U]3 points [/U]against the G-men, who allow an average of 20 points per game. They scored [U]16 points[/U] against the New York Jets, who allow an average of 26 points per game. They scored [U]16 points [/U]against Chicago, who allow an average of 23 points per game. They scored [U]23 points [/U]against the Vikings, who are allowing 20 points per game. That's [U]an average of 13 points per game[/U], when opponents have been averaging 21 points per game against those same teams. Scoring 8 fewer points per game than your opponents, is bad. 13 points per game is bad.

Granted, they torched the Lions for 50+ points, but they're not scoring a lot of points. They could rebound and they might very well beat us. But the Eagles offense has been anemic.

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I'm saying yes because I'm a fan.

However (here comes the ass-covering caveat), if Clinton Portis and the offensive line on't pull their collective heads out of their collective backsides and start running the damn ball with some ferocity, we will be lucky to win 3 more games. I say they will do it starting Sunday.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;371939]Reason number 437 why your opinions posted here are rendered meaningless by blind faith.

If you're always coming down on the optimistic side, how can your opinions possibly be considered valid? They're rife with bias.

There's what you WANT to happen, and then there's what you THINK will happen. There's a difference.[/QUOTE]

I'll freely admit that I wear burgundy and gold colored glasses. I don't think that makes my views invalid, I just think you might want to take my views with a grain of salt. Similarly, I take the debbie downers' views with a grain of salt.

I don't agree that you have to wear burgundy and gold colored glasses in order to be a fan. But, for me at least, it is hard not to see the good in our team and think, perhaps incorrectly, that we will go to the playoffs.

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I'm guessing Schneed was also picking the Bills to win SB XXVI (hey...numbers from Vegas don't lie!) and turned the game off after Denver went up 10-0 in SB XXII. :D

Let's not even bring up our 6-0 run at the end of 2005. It's years like 2005 that prove my point of it paying off to stay behind your team when standings and everyone in the world has said they're dead. The celebration at the end is so much sweeter when you're not a fairweather fan. :)

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;371942]They will make the playoffs only because the rest of the NFC is very weak. The Cowboys, Packers, Panthers and Seahawks are going to win their perspective divisions. The Giants look like the front runner for the first wild card position. That means the Skins are competing against the Lions, Vikings, Tampa Bay and Cardinals for the final wildcard. [b]The Skins have already beaten the Vikings and Cardinals.[/b][/quote]

Skins have already beaten the Lions too.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;371942]They will make the playoffs only because the rest of the NFC is very weak. The Cowboys, Packers, Panthers and Seahawks are going to win their perspective divisions. The Giants look like the front runner for the first wild card position. That means the Skins are competing against the Lions, Vikings, Tampa Bay and Cardinals for the final wildcard. The Skins have already beaten the Vikings and Cardinals.[/quote]

We don't play the Vikes until Week 16. :)

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Yes, just make sure that we beat division opponents. also our OL should be healthy again in the coming months

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;371942]They will make the playoffs only because the rest of the NFC is very weak. The Cowboys, Packers, Panthers and Seahawks are going to win their perspective divisions. The Giants look like the front runner for the first wild card position. That means the Skins are competing against the Lions, Vikings, Tampa Bay and Cardinals for the final wildcard. The Skins have already beaten the Vikings and Cardinals.[/quote]


giants will not be a wild card. they are better right than dallas right now, and of course they beat us

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[quote=bertoskins2;371992]giants will not be a wild card. they are better right than dallas right now, and of course they beat us[/quote]

Yes and Dallas beat NY, and the Giants winning streak is against all the same crappy teams that Dallas faced too. Except Washington.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;371944]Dude. Put down the pipe! The Skins will beat the Jets and the Bucs. I don't know about splitting with the Cowboys, that might be two losses. But I think they will rebound and take out the Giants. I'm thinking 11-5 at worst 10-6 which will still be good enough for the second wildcard.[/quote]

11-5, 10-6 at the worst???? More kool aid drinking/ homerism at it's best.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371949]The Eagles scored [U]13 points[/U] against Green Bay, which allows an average of 17 points. They scored [U]12 points[/U] against us and we're allowing an average of 20 points per game (granted that stat is skewed because of New England). They scored [U]3 points [/U]against the G-men, who allow an average of 20 points per game. They scored [U]16 points[/U] against the New York Jets, who allow an average of 26 points per game. They scored [U]16 points [/U]against Chicago, who allow an average of 23 points per game. They scored [U]23 points [/U]against the Vikings, who are allowing 20 points per game. That's [U]an average of 13 points per game[/U], when opponents have been averaging 21 points per game against those same teams. Scoring 8 fewer points per game than your opponents, is bad. 13 points per game is bad.

Granted, they torched the Lions for 50+ points, but they're not scoring a lot of points. They could rebound and they might very well beat us. But the Eagles offense has been anemic.[/quote]Yeah, I'm guessing the Lions game is really skewing the numbers. But is it skewing? Should we really discredit that dominance as just a bad opponent?

I don't know the answer, and I'm inclined to be on the safe side and give Philly the benefit of the doubt. If their offense was all that bad, I don't think they would have been able to do that against Detroit.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;372032]Yeah, I'm guessing the Lions game is really skewing the numbers. But is it skewing? Should we really discredit that dominance as just a bad opponent?

I don't know the answer, and I'm inclined to be on the safe side and give Philly the benefit of the doubt. If their offense was all that bad, I don't think they would have been able to do that against Detroit.[/QUOTE]

I guess I should have said the Eagles cannot score lots of points on a consistent basis. They're getting decent yardage, but, as you noted, they're not punching it in. I have a lot of respect for the Eagles and McNabb and, like us, they [I]could [/I]be explosive. But right now, they're not.

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a hesitant yes. We will have to beat the other wildcard teams

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;371915]You think a guy that used to throw darts at a John Riggins poster when he was younger can even make that leap?[/QUOTE]

OUCH! Even my avatar hurt after that comment.

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I say no. While Gibbs first run was exceptional with innovative play calling and, more importantly, halftime adjustments, I just have no faith in his abilities this time around. We all got caught up when the man returned, but now its different. He has a HUGE coaching staff, that is highly overpaid. He no longer makes the halftime adjustments, rather we go into turtle mode when we have a lead. His clock management has been dreadful. I will watch every snap of every game, and I'll scream my head off, but I no longer have faith in Joe Gibbs, and believe me it hurts to say that.

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The glass is half full. We will make the playoffs.

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We are going to the playoffs believe it!!!!