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birdz4gibbs 01-07-2008 11:34 AM

Re: What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?
 
for me i would look into the OL, WR ,LB ,DE or even bring in a few more DT,s in but i like some of the guys we have that have stepped up for us.to me the offense is still the real issue here and the continuing developement of jason campbell as our future QB.
it doesn,t have to be in any order but i would sign one here and there in FA with the right $ and draft all over the board,move around and get your needs early rounds and late rounds and possible trades if it makes sense otherwise don,t do it all unless it makes sense for the long haul. continued stability and continuity is key here for us to continue to show progress......wait and see....

i would also look at team speed overall we need it bad..

Redskins_P 01-07-2008 11:43 AM

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In no particular order, I think we need the following:

O-line depth -- Stephon Heyer is a nice start. But now we need at least 2 or 3 more young guys to groom.

WR - ARE, and Moss are good, but I think we need one more reliable pass catcher. If it was up to me, it would be a tall receiver with good hands. He doesn't have to be a burner.

CB - Even if Springs comes back, I think we still need one more just in case Rogers isn't ready.

D-line - Golston, Monty, Carter aren't going anywhere. I think they'll restructure Griffin and Daniels. But I think we should draft a pass rush specialist and maybe one more tackle in case Griff gets injured.

K/P - I think both Suisham and Frost needs some competition in training camp.

#56fanatic 01-07-2008 11:48 AM

Re: What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?
 
i dont know that we could cut springs with Carlos not being able to play until mid season. Definately DL help, also LB help with Rocky probably out all next year. definately need some safety help, whether its FA or draft. although, Dougherty played very well the last few weeks and i believe he will make a bigger stride during the offseason.

changes - offensively - hopefully we can keep Al Saunders and have Jason able to run the entire playbook next year. This offense is on the verge of breaking out. the 3rd year in his scheme is when the changes are dramatic.

defensively - hopefully we can get back to the aggessive attacking D we used the last month or so for an entire season. I think we are much better when we are forcing the issue than we are playing the cover 2 we employed earlier in the year.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-07-2008 11:51 AM

Re: What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?
 
Cut Brunell (sorry we need the space) and Lloyd. Nab in FA or the draft: a #3 WR, 2 young O-linemen who will be able to start, a DE, and a DB (either a CB or a SS).

RiggoDrill 01-07-2008 11:57 AM

Re: What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?
 
#1 Get rid of Vinny and all the other posers and hangers about and hire an actual GM (with football knowledge and experience) who will then:

- get a #1 receiver so Moss can be #2 (where he really belongs) and ARE can go to the slot (where he really belongs)
- get someone who can put real pressure on the QB to help out Carter
- draft a right tackle who can step in immediately and play (does one exist in the draft?)
- draft a big back (in the Gerald Riggs mold) who can be a consistent short yardage/goal line player and who can provide a change of pace in the middle of the field

rscalder 01-07-2008 12:01 PM

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;402998]We should cut Griffin, Brunnel, Fabini, Daniels, Springs, and Wade. We should sign Corey Williams of Greenbay, and Jared Allen. We should draft the best corner we can and concentrate on the O-line. If we can trade Wade, and Lloyd that would be great, but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]


I think we need to keep Fabini for depth. I think he has played well in place of R. Thomas and he can come in if needed. I still think Springs is our best corner, I would re-open the restructure talks. Why not pay our only real corner. Get rid of Wade if Jansen can play again. Obviously Heyer can start for Jansen if needed but why not keep Wade as a back up. Drafting O-line depth is still a necessity.

I agree with Daniels, Brunnell and Lloyd, but maybe we could also get Griffin to re-structure for D-Line depth behind Montgomery and Golstin.

Just my thoughts. It sucks we are talking about this instead of Dallas.

skinsfan69 01-07-2008 12:09 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;403256]Someone like a Derrick Harvey?[/quote]

I'm not sure if he's big enough to be a 4-3 end. I think he's only 260lbs. He looks like he fits in well as an outside backer in a 3-4. But I'm sure he still has alot of growing to do. I remember he just abused Ohio State last year so I'm sold on him. Plus he's a local DC guy. It would be a great fit. But I think I'd rather have Chris Long. Long is just like his father. Mean, nasty and he brings an attitude.

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-07-2008 12:13 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;403610]I'm not sure if he's big enough to be a 4-3 end. I think he's only 260lbs. He looks like he fits in well as an outside backer in a 3-4. But I'm sure he still has alot of growing to do. I remember he just abused Ohio State last year so I'm sold on him. Plus he's a local DC guy. It would be a great fit. But I think I'd rather have Chris Long. Long is just like his father. Mean, nasty and he brings an attitude.[/quote]


Carter is only 256

SFREDSKIN 01-07-2008 12:18 PM

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And DeMarcus Ware is 252.

JoeRedskin 01-07-2008 12:33 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;403596]Cut Brunell (sorry we need the space) and Lloyd. Nab in FA or the draft: a #3 WR, 2 young O-linemen who will be able to start, a DE, and a DB (either a CB or a SS).[/QUOTE]

Hire SGG as the GM.

hail_2_da_skins 01-07-2008 12:37 PM

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The Redskins should concentrate on getting the best players available. They specifically need to upgrade the following positions; offensive line, defensive line and wide receiver.

SFREDSKIN 01-07-2008 01:11 PM

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If you guys read JLC's blog carefully you will see that our first 2 picks will be DE and CB, also don't be surprised if a RB (big) is picked. I seriously think Alexander will be converted to G and he'll be a stud pulling G.

Defensewins 01-07-2008 01:18 PM

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If there is a position that needs a change, a breath of fresh air, we need to get rid of Snyder's guy Vinny Cerrato and bring a new guy. Before Gibbs came back, nobody personified the mismanagement of personnel and money during those years more then than Vinne Cerrato. Plus our team perfomred terribly on the field during that time.
We need a good, strong GM that can work with Gibbs to fill out our roster and get us away fronm this game of having to renegotiate our veterans deals because we are constantly over the salary cap. Stop the madness.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-07-2008 01:27 PM

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Here we go again... :doh:

NOW we know it's the offseason.

MTK 01-07-2008 01:35 PM

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It was only a matter of time.

skinsfan69 01-07-2008 02:05 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;403616]And DeMarcus Ware is 252.[/quote]

But Ware plays outside in a 3-4. I don't think Ware would be as effective if he's in a 4-3.

skinsfan69 01-07-2008 02:07 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;403613]Carter is only 256[/quote]

That's what I mean. We don't need another smallish DE.

SFREDSKIN 01-07-2008 02:17 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;403684]That's what I mean. We don't need another smallish DE.[/QUOTE]

Ok, you want beef and a player who was signed as FA and keeps improving every year. Tommy Kelly DE Raiders 6'6" 300lbs, the only drawback was that he had serious knee injury and got knocked out for the season. I would look at him.

JoeRedskin 01-07-2008 02:18 PM

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What we really need to do is sign some CFL player and announce it as the first signing of the off-season. Then, we can debate the efficacy of signing CFL players when we have such glaring needs at other spots. Eventually, we can turn it into a flame war and lock this thread down.

Paintrain 01-07-2008 02:20 PM

Re: What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?
 
Additions-Lance Briggs (only major addition), a starter and depth at CB (move Springs to FS and Landry back to SS), youth at DT, depth at DE, depth at G.. I'd love to add a Chad Johnson or another LEGIT #1 WR but not at what it will likely cost..

Subtractions-Brunell, Lloyd, Frost and Shiusham if upgrades are available.

mheisig 01-07-2008 03:20 PM

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These threads always serve as notice that the modern football fan is WAY too influenced by fantasy football.

"We need to sign Chad Johnson and Randy Moss as our #1 and #2 guys, then trade Portis for Tomlinson. Then get Lance Briggs, Brian Urlacher and Shawn Merrimen as LBs. Resurrect Ronnie Lot, draft Champ Bailey's illegitimate but talented child and then sign Lavar Arrington and Lawrence Taylor as well.

After that we'll draft an offensive line that are all identical clones of the Patriots offensive line. Then we'll take Peyton Mannings brain and stick it in Jason Campbells head.

That's the formula for a Super Bowl! Redskins FTW LOLZ!!!1!"

Defensewins 01-07-2008 03:39 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;403653]It was only a matter of time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;403650]Here we go again... :doh:

NOW we know it's the offseason.[/QUOTE]

I did not realize this thread was limited to changes only Matty72 and TMC agree with.

SmootSmack 01-07-2008 03:50 PM

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That is emphatically not true! I have to agree with the moves as well :)

Seriously though, a new GM is not going to come in and overrule Snyder and Gibbs on their philosophy of how to run the franchise. Gibbs, Snyder, and Cerrato have shown that they can work together and with their scouting team to find unheralded players that can be developed into solid to good to great Redskins and keep our key players when we want to. Whether we have to restructure or not, so what? We keep hearing people complain about the cap every year, but every year we're ok.

rk3025 01-07-2008 03:51 PM

Re: What Changes Should We Make Going Into 08?
 
Chris Long is a Top pick and will be 'long' gone by our 21st pick
Groves
Blake
Jackson
Campbell
work them out for draft day

QUOTE=skinsfan69;403610]I'm not sure if he's big enough to be a 4-3 end. I think he's only 260lbs. He looks like he fits in well as an outside backer in a 3-4. But I'm sure he still has alot of growing to do. I remember he just abused Ohio State last year so I'm sold on him. Plus he's a local DC guy. It would be a great fit. But I think I'd rather have Chris Long. Long is just like his father. Mean, nasty and he brings an attitude.[/QUOTE]

Drift Reality 01-07-2008 03:55 PM

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I think a lot of the contributions in this thread are tactically focused. That is good, but I'd start with an over-arching strategy. I think traditionally our strategy has been focused on acquiring players in their prime for above-market value while often times neglecting homegrown talent.

I think Gibbs has helped changed the thinking here and I'd like to see a continuance of this trend.

I think our strategy needs to continue to place increasing emphasis on using the draft and acquiring young talent who can learn within the system while using free agency in a very targeted fashion to bring in a player who fits our system and fills a need (not necessarily the biggest name out there) - who we can acquire at or below market value.

Using this strategic approach I would identify the following weaknesses in our personnel in '08:

[B]1. Youth along the offensive line[/B] - We have a quality, veteran line, but a number of our top-line starters are maturing and probably have a remaining shelf-life of 2-3 years. I think we need to look at bringing in 2 talented offensive linemen - one interior lineman and one tackle. Because I believe we have the coaching in place to develop talent in this unit, I would argue here that we should use the draft as opposed to FA to acquire depth in this area. A top-tier guard can be found in the 2nd or 3rd round. Starting guards can normally be found on day 2. Top-tier tackles are normally found on day 1 however but I don't believe this is as much of an area of need as guard.

[B]2. Youth at linebacker[/B] - Two of our starting linebackers probably have a shelf-life of 2 years. We have one quality youth linebacker who is coming off serious knee surgery and one other possible starter (Blades). It would be great to bring in one young, promising outside backer. [I]I would actually argue against Briggs because we would have to pay above-market value for him.[/I] I think we could get a guy like Dansby for near market value. Quality linebackers can be found on day 2 of the draft, which is something we should consider.

[B]3. A starting DE[/B] - Phillip Daniels has certainly played well throughout his tenure here but I think we really could bring in a top-tier end and turn this position into a real strength for us. Justin Smith or Jared Allen would be good top-tier acquisitions for us here. Using a day 1 pick here might not be a bad idea if we can't bring in a top-tier FA. Most top-tier ends come on day 1 in the draft.

[B]4. 4th Cornerback[/B] - I think not only do we need to retain Sean Springs, but I would like to see us bring in a quality fourth corner back. When Rogers went out and Torrence stepped in, we saw what a liability having a sub-par nickel back was for our defense. Historically, top-tier corners have been acquired with 1st round picks. If there is an opportunity with our 1st I think it might be worth consideration but I believe there are other areas of greater need that we should consider using with our 1st rounder.

[B]5. Wide Receiver[/B] - I believe we should retain Caldwell and give him an opportunity to compete for a starting role. At the same time, I think we should consider using FA or a day 2 pick to target a large wide receiver who could also compete, along with Espy and whoever we choose to bring back, for a a WR spot on our team.

To sum it all up, I would look at FA to fill the following positions: DE, LB, possibly WR.

I would use day 1 of our draft to look at DE, CB or T while I would focus on day 2 on LB, WR, and G.

Drift Reality 01-07-2008 04:00 PM

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Incidentally, I think conjecture about specific moves or specific picks is all a shot in the dark.

Also, anyone who thinks we can get anything for Lloyd...I think you're dreaming. He is a June 1st cut along with Brunell (although they will leave under different circumstances - sort of like one honorable discharge (Brunell) and one dishonorable discharge (Lloyd))

dgreen 01-07-2008 04:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality;403779]
[B]5. Wide Receiver[/B] - I believe we should retain Caldwell and give him an opportunity to compete for a starting role. At the same time, I think we should consider using FA or a day 2 pick to target a large wide receiver who could also compete, along with Espy and whoever we choose to bring back, for a a WR spot on our team. [/QUOTE]
Nice overall post.

I couldn't disagree more, though, with giving anyone on the current roster a shot at a starting WR spot with Moss. I think they need help there.

Drift Reality 01-07-2008 04:22 PM

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[QUOTE=dgreen;403800]Nice overall post.

I couldn't disagree more, though, with giving anyone on the current roster a shot at a starting WR spot with Moss. I think they need help there.[/QUOTE]

Really? I thought ARE did a pretty solid job in there. Not an ideal solution I agree but I thought we were solid there.

I guess the other issue I see at receiver is the difficulty involved with acquiring a good receiver. It seems like so many top-pick receivers have simply not panned out. I think there are safer bets in the draft than receiver.

Defensewins 01-07-2008 04:32 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;403774]That is emphatically not true! I have to agree with the moves as well :)

Seriously though, a new GM is not going to come in and overrule Snyder and Gibbs on their philosophy of how to run the franchise. Gibbs, Snyder, and Cerrato have shown that they can work together and with their scouting team to find unheralded players that can be developed into solid to good to great Redskins and keep our key players when we want to. Whether we have to restructure or not, so what? We keep hearing people complain about the cap every year, but every year we're ok.[/QUOTE]

We can agree to disagree then.
All I said was before Gibbs arrived Cerratto and Snyder proved they were not very sucessful, see our season W-L and our salary numbers and playoff wins/appearances under the Cerratto/Snyder front office era. We consistantly had one highest payrolls and not very good W-L records. Not a good combination. How many playoff wins did we have under the Snyder/Cerratto front office?
We are fast to get rid of players that don't perform to a certain ability, why do we not rate our FO the same way?

In regards to "so what...every year we are ok" about having to restructure player contracts, again we disagree. I am not ok with the results since Snyder took over. As a life long Redskins fan I can say that.
Shawn Springs last offseason did not want to restructure his huge cap number. His number will be even bigger next year. We have a problem. When you cut or trade them it accelarates and creates even a worse cap problem. We are at the mercy of begging the players to restructure.
Plus every time we restruture a contract we make our future salary cap issues worse. I know this going to piss everyone off, but New England does not have to restructure contracts to the extent we do? Our past excesses from the FO of Snyder/Cerratto has us in the situation. Why are they not accountable?

SmootSmack 01-07-2008 04:41 PM

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You said before Gibbs arrived Cerrato and Snyder had proved they are not successful.But Gibbs is here now and it's apparent that Cerrato answers to both Gibbs and Snyder in shaping the team. And our overall philosophy of developing and retaining players has vastly improved over the past few years.

I don't know what you think would be accomplished by firing VC, other than to just fire the guy for his decisions of 7-8 years ago. Furthermore, I don't know why you think some new "GM" will just walk right in and overrule Gibbs or Snyder. You must know that's just not going to happen so long as the two are here.

dgreen 01-07-2008 04:53 PM

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality;403804]Really? I thought ARE did a pretty solid job in there. Not an ideal solution I agree but I thought we were solid there.[/quote]
I think ARE is a solid WR3. I think he did about as good as you can expect this year.

I took each team's top two WRs by receptions. Washington's WR1 and WR2 (Moss and ARE) were below league average in receptions, yards per game, plays over 40 yards, and plays over 20 yards. Only Miami had less TD receptions from their top 2 WRs. The only area they fared well was in YPC, where they were 10th.

Overall, the WRs did not produce what this offense needed. Of course, there could be other reasons for this. But, I think you have to look at the WRs and say they need help. And, of the two who are currently starting, ARE takes a back seat to Moss.

[quote]I guess the other issue I see at receiver is the difficulty involved with acquiring a good receiver. It seems like so many top-pick receivers have simply not panned out. I think there are safer bets in the draft than receiver.[/QUOTE]
True.

Personally, I wouldn't mind trading for an established receiver. Roy Williams has said he wants out. There may be others who are a little cheaper.

Defensewins 01-07-2008 05:07 PM

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I agree a potential replacment for VC would never overrule Gibbs. Gibbs runs the ship and he has final say. I am fine with that. Gibbs is doing a good job of turning around the team. However back in the 80's we had Bobby Beathard, but under him we had a very good assistant Charlie Casserly and a group of scouts that were credited for fairly consisantly finding incredible hidden gems like Joe Jacoby, Monte Coleman, Darryl Grant, Jeff Bostic to name a just a few. Beathard like Gibbs today run the draft, but the guy under Gibbs (VC) has not been producing year to year. It wasn't until Gibbs arrived that it has started to change. We can respectfully disagree on this point, but VC has had his chance and I do not see any great track record. After a certain amount of time it is good to make changes when things are not working well. especially when there are other great talent evaluaters out there. It is not like VC is the only guy available. Just my humble opinion, that is all. I am not trying to be an ass about it nor do I hate VC. I just think it is time for a change. Which is the title of this thread.

SmootSmack 01-07-2008 05:15 PM

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;403852]I agree a potential replacment for VC would never overrule Gibbs. Gibbs runs the ship and he has final say. I am fine with that. Gibbs is doing a good job of turning around the team. However back in the 80's we had Bobby Beathard, but under him we had a very good assistant Charlie Casserly and a group of scouts that were credited for fairly consisantly finding incredible hidden gems like Joe Jacoby, Monte Coleman, Darryl Grant, Jeff Bostic to name a just a few. Beathard like Gibbs today run the draft, but the guy under Gibbs (VC) has not been producing year to year. It wasn't until Gibbs arrived that it has started to change. We can respectfully disagree on this point, but VC has had his chance and I do not see any great track record. After a certain amount of time it is good to make changes when things are not working well. especially when there are other great talent evaluaters out there. It is not like VC is the only guy available. Just my humble opinion, that is all. I am not trying to be an ass about it nor do I hate VC. I just think it is time for a change. Which is the title of this thread.[/QUOTE]

You know what? F your opinion. If I want your opinion I'll smack you over the head with it! :)

Kidding, just kidding. No seriously that's cool. I just don't see the benefit of firing Vinny now. If we were going to it should have been done four years ago, in my opinion.

firstdown 01-07-2008 05:21 PM

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One need people have not mentioned is the need for a new T runner. You know that kid that runs onto the field to get the kicking tee after a kick off. The kid we have now is slow and I have seen him trip and fall a few times. Ones he got confused and could not find the tee and someone else had grabed it and was gone before he knew what happened.

MTRedskinsFan 01-07-2008 06:32 PM

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Clicking on this thread my thinking was there are three changes that need to be made (O-line, pass rush, and WR) and two potential changes (CB and LB). That seems to mostly be the conventional wisdom reading all the posts, w/ some real interesting ideas mixed in. Still, I kind of see each situation a little different now.

Must see changes:

1. The o-line needs a big infusion of talent to make this offense work. Probably safe assumption Samuels, Kendall, Rabach, Thomas, JJ come back and at least start healthy. But talented depth is a must because injuries are inevitable. I would like to see a stud drafted a guard who can step into the fray if RT or Kendall go down. The sitz w/ tackle is more complicated, because JJ may be too far past prime. I'm sure coaches will know whether the draft or FA is best for a tackle, depending on Janson's status. Heyer got man-handled all day by Kearney - w/o a lot of luck and illegal substances he ain't ready.

2. I just need a pass rusher pure and simple. AC is a stud but he needs help. I don't see us adding a DT either. Our guys stop the run well and listening to GW talk about the unlimited potential in AM i think we're pretty set there. A stud DE makes the most sense to take over for P. Daniels (who should be a backup).

3. I'm already sick of talking about all the dropped passes our WR corps had this year but seriously unless we see a change in personel it will always be something talked about. ARE is most reliable I saw but is a #3 (potentially #2 if we have a real stud opposite side). I know people still love Moss - ok, keep the guy but for fuck sakes he should be the first to restructure and take a pay cut then. Hurt half the time, drops passes seems like half the time when healthy... WTF!!! Please, please, please coaches, don't put your eggs in the Santana basket again next season.
I like the idea of a big WR too because if you notice JC gets a lot of his passes up high. This has something to do w/ Cooley being his fav and most prolific target. Maybe JC "fixes" this in the offseason. Maybe not. But a big WR, w/ hands made of Krazy Glue can't be a bad thing either way.

Potential changes to be seen:

1. If we lose SS then we have to get a veteran CB. I hope he restructures and stays but that's just me. Mostly healthy in '07 because he changed his conditioning so that's not as big a concern and he was f'n brilliant down the stretch. I think a bum leg held him back in Seattle, but like Gibbs says we're better defensively when he's out there. Smoot progressed a lot as did Torrence (who always seems like the fastest guy on the field). Hopefully Rogers is working himself back in late in the season and we don't have to do anything major in this dept. for at least a couple of years.

2. Maybe we go out and get a LB. Seems like this depends on the progress of Blades and KC, and whether Godfrey will commit to another year. I know we're older here but it's a solid group and bigger priorities exist within limited opportunities.

I know some folks think safety is a ? but i don't see it. Landry will be a top 3 FS next year, mark my words. He's as fast as anybody in football w/ a passion for contact, and he's turning supersmart. At SS Doughty proved worthy IMO. i get the feeling he will do anything to keep his starting position.

Side note: I totally suck at predicting draft picks/FA acquisitions so I won't even try this time. Last draft I actually thought we'd take AP (when nobody else did), trade one of our backs (probably Portis) for picks or maybe a DE. That said, I hope we at least get a stud o-lineman and pass rusher out of the draft.

chrisfx 01-07-2008 07:08 PM

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[QUOTE=Redskin Warrior;402959]Well that was a great season very proud of the Skins & Gibbs. What changes would you like to see for next season. Upgrade D-Line, O-Line & CB. Your Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Re changes for 2008:

Root for a team that has a chance at winning the NFC. Responding to those who said the Seahawks aren't a notch above the Redskins. How many times have we played in the playoffs? How many times and by how much has Seattle won? What is the Skins combined record in last three years? What is the Seahawks three year record. Please! You thought you could beat us at home? We could play that game 10 times and the Skins wouldn't win once. Give respect where respect is due.

prinzeofmoval 01-07-2008 07:27 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;403325]Calais Campbell I'm sure will get a lot of attention from us. He could be a good choice.

Why you'd want Brian Billick over Joe Gibbs is beyond me.[/QUOTE]


Billick is a great coach.he needs to stay away from the play calling but he's a great coach.The ravens problem is they put all their eggs in one basket with just a defense.They have a bunch of no name recievers,a running back one knee injury away from retirement and a quarterback that should retire.Thats not his fault.

JLee9718 01-07-2008 07:30 PM

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We need an assistant offensive line coach to work with Joe Bugel to teach the guys how to block once the ball is snapped. The O line needs to get off the ball fster. Other teams made the Seattle defense look ordinary, but we made their whole line look like all-pros. They're good, but Atlanta scored 40 some points on them, albeit in a meaningless game. Is our O line that much weaker than other teams'? We run a very poor 4th and 1 or even 4th and inches play the whole year.

SmootSmack 01-07-2008 07:34 PM

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If you're not even including playcalling in your assessment (or even if you were), I think there is simply no way anyway can say Billick is a better coach than Gibbs. As for Billick not being at fault for his lackluster offense players, if Billick was the offensive sage that he claims to be then his offenses would be able to perform at a much higher level regardless. Like maybe he could win 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs and 3 different RBs. Plus if you say that he's not to blame for offense, then would you say he's not to be credited for defense. That same defense that was the sole reason the Ravens even have a Super Bowl title.

kdogg3270 01-07-2008 07:44 PM

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the offense need to run the same plays for campbell that they run for collins. why do we have our rocket-arm quarterback throwing CHECKDOWNS all the time while weak armed Collins(granted, he knows the full playbook and did great in my opinion) taking the deep shots?..Campbell will improve in that area if we let him - and it starts in preseason..

Draft a pass rushing end. Daniels and D. Evans gotta go. sorry.
Pick up an outside LB - since McIntosh will not be ready by the start of next season and could be out for quite a while.
Possibly another CB. I like springs, but he is slowing down and it's obvious.
Get a big-bodied go-to type receiver to complement Moss & Randle El.
I'd also like to see the team revamp their offseason conditioning program. all the hamstring injures made a lot of guys miss practice and games.

basically, make the necessary additions/subtractions, and practice like there's no tomorrow.


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