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[quote=Defensewins;410592]Nothing sells more and markets better than winning. Winning playoff games and winning Super Bowls markets better than changing Coaches and being mediocre. The Patriots are proof of that. The TV commercial ad time during the New York Giants vs New England Patriots regular season finale was the highest ever for a regular season game. The 30 second commercials were selling for close to Superbowl money.[/quote]

Please tell that to Dan Snyder, he's perfectly happy hiring idiot coaches and making money off the fans anyways, no matter how shitty the product on the field is he knows the fans will always support the team and buy everything up regarding the team.

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[QUOTE=mooby;410594]Please tell that to Dan Snyder, he's perfectly happy hiring idiot coaches and making money off the fans anyways, no matter how shitty the product on the field is he knows the fans will always support the team and buy everything up regarding the team.[/QUOTE]But isn't that our fault?
It would take a [B]huge[/B] price increase or talent decrease to get me to stop paying for tickets to games.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;410596]But isn't that our fault?[/quote]


It really is but do you think things will change? Most of the fans that are on the internet and are saying they are gonna stop buying everything up only represent a small portion of the fanbase. Honestly I wish the fans would change and say, hey you know what Jim Fassel is an idiot hire, we don't like that so we aren't gonna support the team and buy shit up like we used to until you grow some smarts and do the right thing regardless of whether or not you like the man, but that might not happen. I hope it happens but i'm not holding my breath. Until fans stop buying everything Dan Snyder sells and his marketing isn't working anymore he's not gonna change.

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OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.

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[quote=Schneed10;410602]OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.[/quote]

I just don't get how he has less football knowledge and feeling for the game than some of the people on this site..haha...GW IS THE BEST CHOICE..DO IT!!!

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[quote=mooby;410601]It really is but do you think things will change? Most of the fans that are on the internet and are saying they are gonna stop buying everything up only represent a small portion of the fanbase. Honestly I wish the fans would change and say, hey you know what Jim Fassel is an idiot hire, we don't like that so we aren't gonna support the team and buy shit up like we used to until you grow some smarts and do the right thing regardless of whether or not you like the man, but that might not happen. I hope it happens but i'm not holding my breath. Until fans stop buying everything Dan Snyder sells and his marketing isn't working anymore he's not gonna change.[/quote]


Mooby - unfortunately even if fans stopped going to games it would take many years for the season ticket contracts to expire before a "fan revolt" could take effect. I believe all Redskin season tickets have 5 year contracts on them, so fans could just not give up tickets next year in response to Synders decision making or lack thereof.

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If there's ONE thing you can't criticize Dan Snyder, it's for trying to win. He tries. Hard. He'll shell out huge signing bonuses to get any player, he'll go more cash over cap than any owner in the league, he'll shatter the league's salary structure just to sign a key assistant coach, and he'll fly to any city at 12:01 am on the first day of free agency to land a key free agent.

He always TRIES. The effort cannot be questioned. The decision-making is where he deserves scrutiny. He rightly allowed Gibbs to call the shots, and consequently we've begun building something. Now the question is whether he's just going back to his old ways.

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[quote=Schneed10;410602]OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.[/quote]
i will say this......snyder just needs to pick the man he wants to do the job...he shouldnt pick williams because of the fans or the players because all he will do if the team struggles next year is say i told you so and then fire GW.....he will then bring in cowher for 10 mil a year and we will totally rebuild. so whoever he picks it needs to be who he wants so we can build a winning franchise and stop all this flip flopping

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Take a deep breath here folks.

Danny Boy has succeeded in creating a media frenzy about his new head coach. That focuses the spotlight on him and what he's doing/thinking/saying/not saying... And that's what this kind of thing is all about for him. There has to be "sizzle" associated with all of this. If he can hire a "sizzling" - read "surprising" - HC, that's fine. If not, he has to manufacture "sizzle" and that's what he's done.

Someone asked why the media don't take him on. Well, the local media doesn't dare do that because he'll take vengeance on them. One reporter for a local TV station was banned from using the indoor studio facilities at Redskins HQS for a year and had to do all of his reports from the parking lot. That kind of set the tone for local guys being nasty to Danny Boy.

As for the national media, they don't call BS on Danny Boy much anymore because it isn't all that newsworthy anymore.

As long as people are talking about this coaching search, that's good from Danny Boy's point of view. So keep it up folks.

Smootsmack gets angry with me when I say nasty things about Danny Boy and his need to have his ego stroked. This thread sounds to me a bit as if some others here are also thinking that Danny Boy and Vinnie are not certified football geniuses. Welcome to the dark side, folks.

For those who really think Jim Fassel is a bad idea for this team, take solace. There are plenty of worse candidates out there without coaching jobs. I don't think Fassel would be a great hire, but he's not nearly as bad a choice as some others would be.

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has this been verified? or just another one of the dumb rumors out there? remember how bad the giants offense was when Fassel was there? it down right stank. and Tiki Barber became an all pro AFTER Fassel left. just say no to J.F.

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[quote=Schneed10;410602]OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.[/quote]

Schneed - I agree with you on Synders lack of football knowledge but as far as Synder and his desire to accumulate wealth - I know people who have worked for the guy and money is extremely imporatant to the guy and runs through his decision making on pretty much everything first and foremost. Case in point: People have mocked him for the Six Flags purchase when he actually did not purchase the company for the ongoing operations - he purchased Six Flags for the underlying real estate. Synder does not care one lick about family entertainment that Six Flags used to be known for - alll he cares about with Six Flags is how much capital appreciation the Real Estate is providing. The Redskins are no different - if they were not churning out millions in earnings every year he would be taking a different approach to reverse its trend. I am not trying to criticize Synder as a businessman - in fact I think most of his business making decisions are pretty descent - I am just disappointed Synder does not learn from the likes of a Bob Kraft and go out and get tried and true GM to run the football operations.

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[quote=Schneed10;410602]OK people, chill on the Dan Snyder just wants to make money conspiracy theory. He's not effing around with coaches and free agents just to make more money. The answer is much more simple than that: he just doesn't understand football well enough.

He brought Gibbs in and gave him total control over personnel decisions. Two out of those four years, Gibbs took a very low-key approach to free agency. And during those years, we didn't have any coaching turnover. Amazingly, despite the relative stability, the team made a boatload of money!

Change does not lead to more revenue. Marketing (extremeskins, alternate uniforms, expanding the stadium, Redskins Radio, etcetera) makes more money. He's not thinking of bringing in Fassel to make more money. He's considering Fassel because he feels it's possible he'll be a better HC than GW.

He's in it to win it. If he picks Fassel, it shows he has no clue. If he picks GW, it shows that he's learning.[/quote]
Well your last statement is based off of nothing at this point because we do not know what is going on behind closed doors. Maybe GW wants to make total changes in the team other than the D which is his. We just do not know what is going on so we cannot say one is better than the other without knowing what actually facts. I can understand why people want to see the coach named but to draw all these conclusion about Snyder at this point is just not fair.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;410617]Take a deep breath here folks.

Danny Boy has succeeded in creating a media frenzy about his new head coach. That focuses the spotlight on him and what he's doing/thinking/saying/not saying... And that's what this kind of thing is all about for him. There has to be "sizzle" associated with all of this. If he can hire a "sizzling" - read "surprising" - HC, that's fine. If not, he has to manufacture "sizzle" and that's what he's done.

Someone asked why the media don't take him on. Well, the local media doesn't dare do that because he'll take vengeance on them. One reporter for a local TV station was banned from using the indoor studio facilities at Redskins HQS for a year and had to do all of his reports from the parking lot. That kind of set the tone for local guys being nasty to Danny Boy.

As for the national media, they don't call BS on Danny Boy much anymore because it isn't all that newsworthy anymore.

As long as people are talking about this coaching search, that's good from Danny Boy's point of view. So keep it up folks.

Smootsmack gets angry with me when I say nasty things about Danny Boy and his need to have his ego stroked. This thread sounds to me a bit as if some others here are also thinking that Danny Boy and Vinnie are not certified football geniuses. Welcome to the dark side, folks.

For those who really think Jim Fassel is a bad idea for this team, take solace. There are plenty of worse candidates out there without coaching jobs. I don't think Fassel would be a great hire, but he's not nearly as bad a choice as some others would be.[/quote]

Can you please explain to me the financial incentive behind creating a "buzz" about your head coaching hire?

The Redskins sell out their stadium every year, so "buzz" does not sell you any additional tickets. The coach doesn't wear a number, so coaching buzz doesn't help you sell jerseys. As the fans "buzz" about the coach, they don't check Danny's websites, they check with the insiders like JLC, Jay Glazer, Mortensen, King, etcetera. So the only websites that get a boost are media-run and don't belong to The Danny.

Danny is a great businessman, but apparently you are not. I just love this conspiracy theory about the "buzz" being profitable. It's a myth.

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We will not win until Snyder sells the team. Believe it! See you guys in 2010. That is when he will probably sell the team and I will return to Washington Redskins as being my favorite football team. Until that I will only watch football to see all of the teams. This freaking pathetic.

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[quote=mooby;410594]Please tell that to Dan Snyder, he's perfectly happy hiring idiot coaches and making money off the fans anyways, no matter how shitty the product on the field is he knows the fans will always support the team and buy everything up regarding the team.[/quote]
Well I guess Gibbs, GW and Saunders are on that idiot coaching list.

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[quote=firstdown;410623]Well your last statement is based off of nothing at this point because we do not know what is going on behind closed doors. Maybe GW wants to make total changes in the team other than the D which is his. We just do not know what is going on so we cannot say one is better than the other without knowing what actually facts. I can understand why people want to see the coach named but to draw all these conclusion about Snyder at this point is just not fair.[/quote]

Fair point. There could be circumstances, of which I'm not aware, that would make Fassel a better choice than GW. But if that were the case, it would be upsetting either way. Because even if Fassel is the better choice, it still means we're starting over, yet again, and Fassel will have to coach a group of players that really wanted GW.

Right decision or not, Fassel is going to cause a rift in the locker room. These players want GW. If they don't get him, I can see many of them getting very jaded.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;410626]We will not win until Snyder sells the team. Believe it! See you guys in 2010. That is when he will probably sell the team and I will return to Washington Redskins as being my favorite football team. Until that I will only watch football to see all of the teams. This freaking pathetic.[/quote]
By, see you in 2 years.

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im sure gibbs had no idea when he retired this would happen.....he probably would have just stayed on and take a bobby bowden role....and let the coordinators run it all

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Schneed:

I didn't say that Danny Boy created this "buzz" to make money. I said he did it to stroke his ego.

He also happens to be very interested in making money on the Redskins, but that's not why he finds ways to get himself positioned at the center of the stories about hiring coaches and signing flashy free agents. He does that for ego-strokes.

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Looking over Fassel's record, I see only one above average year. 2000, he went 12-4. (He went 10-5-1 once, and 10-6. Both times losing first-round Wild Card games.)

He was 25-33 at Utah.

There's a reason he hasn't been a head coach since 2003. Think of all the coaching vacancies since then...and he hasn't received a sniff from anyone, outside of Synder.

If not Gregg Williams, then pick an up-and-coming assistant. Fassel ain't the guy. The players are firmly on Greggy's side. Any other choice is a signal that the next few years will be about rebuilding a new identity. Continuity will be destroyed.

Just my humble opinion.

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[QUOTE=Bill B;410578][/B]


Schneed, nice post - I think what people have to consider with Dan Synder is that his decisions are first and foremost made due to monetary considerations above all else. Bringing in a new coaching regime is all about marketing to Synder - retaining Gregg Williams or promoting from within would probably result in better on field results, but this is boring and does not create the "buzz" that a new big name coach can. Just like signing big name free agents, constant turnover is part of Dan Synder's marketing scheme.[/QUOTE]

I think you are completely off base with this. Snyder wants to win. He seems destined to be terrible at it but he wants to win. I don't think money has much to do with it at all. If it did he wouldn't spend twice what every other team does on coaching salaries and go 50% more than everyone else on cash over cap.

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[QUOTE=Bill B;410611]Mooby - unfortunately even if fans stopped going to games it would take many years for the season ticket contracts to expire before a "fan revolt" could take effect. I believe all Redskin season tickets have 5 year contracts on them, so fans could just not give up tickets next year in response to Synders decision making or lack thereof.[/QUOTE]

That's not right at all. My tickets renew evey year. I believe some people have contracts but most people do not.

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[quote=firstdown;410630]Well I guess Gibbs, GW and Saunders are on that idiot coaching list.[/quote]

You gotta be pretty stupid if you think I associate them with people like Jim Fassel. Snyder was probably gonna offer the job to Fassel in 2004 but then Gibbs came along and Snyder was like, hey, lightbulb, the greatest coach in Redskins' history came back and said he would like to coach the team again, that's obviously a better hire because A. the fans love him, B. he's the greatest coach in Skins' history, and C. he knows what he's doing so I can trust him with everything football related. Jim Fassel is an idiot and it's been proven, Gibbs is a winner and he got two assistants that even though they may not have been good head coaches, they know what they are doing on offense and defense. What happened all the pre-Gibbs years? Was that a success? Dan Snyder still made money off the team despite the fact that we usually had a shitty record, because that's what he's best at, is making money. The guy's a marketing genius, not a football genius.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;410651]Schneed:

I didn't say that Danny Boy created this "buzz" to make money. I said he did it to stroke his ego.

He also happens to be very interested in making money on the Redskins, but that's not why he finds ways to get himself positioned at the center of the stories about hiring coaches and signing flashy free agents. He does that for ego-strokes.[/quote]

OK that's better than saying he does it to make money, and I can't rule you out as being right on that point. But to me the guy is about two things:

1) Making a ton of money
2) Trying to win games

The two goals are not exclusive of each other. Though to have as much success in business as he's had, he certainly would have a huge ego. I don't think he's manufacturing buzz on purpose just for ego reasons, I think he's just taking time to decide between Fassel and GW because he wants the guy who he thinks will win. Nevermind whether he knows what he's doing or not.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;410624]Can you please explain to me the financial incentive behind creating a "buzz" about your head coaching hire?

The Redskins sell out their stadium every year, so "buzz" does not sell you any additional tickets. The coach doesn't wear a number, so coaching buzz doesn't help you sell jerseys. As the fans "buzz" about the coach, they don't check Danny's websites, they check with the insiders like JLC, Jay Glazer, Mortensen, King, etcetera. So the only websites that get a boost are media-run and don't belong to The Danny.

Danny is a great businessman, but apparently you are not. I just love this conspiracy theory about the "buzz" being profitable. It's a myth.[/QUOTE]

The Danny makes money by, well, look on the pages of this website. There's an ad for Redskins Sugar Pourer, $19.95. Sugar pourer's make money; buzz does not. Buzz sells newspapers.

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[quote=mooby;410670]You gotta be pretty stupid if you think I associate them with people like Jim Fassel. Snyder was probably gonna offer the job to Fassel in 2004 but then Gibbs came along and Snyder was like, hey, lightbulb, the greatest coach in Redskins' history came back and said he would like to coach the team again, that's obviously a better hire because A. the fans love him, B. he's the greatest coach in Skins' history, and C. he knows what he's doing so I can trust him with everything football related. [B]Jim Fassel is an idiot and it's been proven, Gibbs is a winner [/B]and he got two assistants that even though they may not have been good head coaches, they know what they are doing on offense and defense. What happened all the pre-Gibbs years? Was that a success? Dan Snyder still made money off the team despite the fact that we usually had a shitty record, because that's what he's best at, is making money. The guy's a marketing genius, not a football genius.[/quote]

First let me just say- I do not want Fassel as our head coach.

But tell me, how has it been "proven" that he is an idiot? Sure his offenses stunk in Baltimore, but he wasn't picking the personnel, Ozzie Newsome was. Was Fassel supposed to win with Kyle Boller? Or Anthony Wright? How bout the fact that they had basically no WRs? That offense was set up to fail. And that wasn't his fault. Fassel won an NFC Championship and two coach of the year awards in New York. He also developed both Elway and Simms. And when he got fired from the Giants they went 4-12, but were totally decimated by injuries that year.

I love Joe Gibbs and overall of course he is a winner, but he was 5 games under .500 during his second tenure. And I think he'd be the first to tell you that's not really cutting it. Sure, he brought stability to the organization and built a great core of players, but apparently that's right back out the window.

I could puke.

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If this were a Johnny Rockets, Six Flags, or Dick Clark Productions message board we can probably rightfully complain about Snyder only wanting to make money. Because that seems to be his main intent with those companies, to generate additional revenue streams and own multiple content distribution platforms.

That's the business side of Snyder. The Redskins are the fan side..which ultimately is his most basic problem. He's a fan with all the power to make changes. Imagine that any one of you here with all the knee-jerk posts you have every day, and then suddenly you had the power to make all those moves. That's a dangerous thing.

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[quote=mooby;410670]You gotta be pretty stupid if you think I associate them with people like Jim Fassel. Snyder was probably gonna offer the job to Fassel in 2004 but then Gibbs came along and Snyder was like, hey, lightbulb, the greatest coach in Redskins' history came back and said he would like to coach the team again, that's obviously a better hire because A. the fans love him, B. he's the greatest coach in Skins' history, and C. he knows what he's doing so I can trust him with everything football related. Jim Fassel is an idiot and it's been proven, Gibbs is a winner and he got two assistants that even though they may not have been good head coaches, they know what they are doing on offense and defense. What happened all the pre-Gibbs years? Was that a success? Dan Snyder still made money off the team despite the fact that we usually had a shitty record, because that's what he's best at, is making money. The guy's a marketing genius, not a football genius.[/quote]
You said he happy hiring idiot coaches and last I look all three I listed were coaches. Then you counter argument was about a coach that never coached for the team.

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[quote=FRPLG;410668]That's not right at all. My tickets renew evey year. I believe some people have contracts but most people do not.[/quote]

My best friends uncle has 10 tickets in differnt parts of the stadium - all of them are 5 year deals. My brother in law has 2 season tickets that are also 5 year deals as well. In fact every friend of mine that has season tickets are required to have multi-year contracts. The only ones I know of that do not are the partially restricted view seats that had a lot of complaints so Synder backed off - just my experience and knowledge of the season ticket contract thins - you are pretty lucky to get a renewal option.

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Personally I wouldn't freak if Fassel is the guy. I always thought he got a raw deal in NY. And when you look at it objectively, he's a proven head coach in this league with a winning record that got a team all the way to a Super Bowl. The same can't be said for GW.

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I'm not a big Fassel guy (and in the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a G. Williams guy either) but I'm not really understanding all of the 'sky is falling' mentality here.. Some of the common themes-

[b]"The players will revolt"[/b]-They're professionals. They will suit up and play, bottom line. There was a "revolt" when Marty got here and that turned out to be our best season for 5+ years until Gibbs came back. This is a far more talented team than the ones Marty, Spurrier OR Gibbs took over. They'll be fine.

[b]"Continuity is ruined. Back to the drawing board."[/b]-With virtually every key skill position player in place and under contract, as well as the OL and LB set, we are in great shape to maintain continuity on the field. Yes we will run different systems and JC will/may be learning yet another system. How did the system we ran last year work out for us? Now I am a believer in Saunders and think he was handcuffed by Gibbs but 15th in total offense and 18th in scoring offense isn't what I'd call impressive. Defensively we were back to the top 10 but since we have a largely veteran defense, I don't think learning a new system is going to be that huge of an adjustment.

[b]"Snyder is up to his same old tricks!"[/b]-Why do we rail against this line of thought when it comes to free agency and the newly measured approach but want to pull it back out to support our argument? I think this search is more responsible than his previous ones. He's gone the opposite route as before. He didn't 'big game fish' by trying to splash with a sexy assistant (Garrett) or a big name college coach (Carroll, Stoops, Ferentz) rather he interviewed highly regarded assistants, internally and externally. If it's Fassel, sure it's not a conventional name, but it's not a 'big name hire' like he's chased in the past.

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i think the mystery candidate is wayne newton expected to make an announcement on friday..
fassel no thanks and at this point anybody could be our next coach....stay tuned should be fun to say the least..:smashfrea

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;410740]I'm not a big Fassel guy (and in the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a G. Williams guy either) but I'm not really understanding all of the 'sky is falling' mentality here.. Some of the common themes-

[b]"The players will revolt"[/b]-They're professionals. They will suit up and play, bottom line. There was a "revolt" when Marty got here and that turned out to be our best season for 5+ years until Gibbs came back. This is a far more talented team than the ones Marty, Spurrier OR Gibbs took over. They'll be fine.

[b]"Continuity is ruined. Back to the drawing board."[/b]-With virtually every key skill position player in place and under contract, as well as the OL and LB set, we are in great shape to maintain continuity on the field. Yes we will run different systems and JC will/may be learning yet another system. How did the system we ran last year work out for us? Now I am a believer in Saunders and think he was handcuffed by Gibbs but 15th in total offense and 18th in scoring offense isn't what I'd call impressive. Defensively we were back to the top 10 but since we have a largely veteran defense, I don't think learning a new system is going to be that huge of an adjustment.

[b]"Snyder is up to his same old tricks!"[/b]-Why do we rail against this line of thought when it comes to free agency and the newly measured approach but want to pull it back out to support our argument? I think this search is more responsible than his previous ones. He's gone the opposite route as before. He didn't 'big game fish' by trying to splash with a sexy assistant (Garrett) or a big name college coach (Carroll, Stoops, Ferentz) rather he interviewed highly regarded assistants, internally and externally. If it's Fassel, sure it's not a conventional name, but it's not a 'big name hire' like he's chased in the past.[/QUOTE]

Great post. You da man dog

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[quote=Bill B;410700]My best friends uncle has 10 tickets in differnt parts of the stadium - all of them are 5 year deals. My brother in law has 2 season tickets that are also 5 year deals as well. In fact every friend of mine that has season tickets are required to have multi-year contracts. The only ones I know of that do not are the partially restricted view seats that had a lot of complaints so Synder backed off - just my experience and knowledge of the season ticket contract thins - you are pretty lucky to get a renewal option.[/quote]
Mine are year to year mybrother-in-laws year to year. My buddy who let his go last year were year to year. We all get first option to renew every year.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;410746]Great post. You da man dog[/QUOTE]

I hate using logic. It makes me feel like such an outsider.

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[quote=Paintrain;410748]I hate using logic. It makes me feel like such an outsider.[/quote]

haha it does on this site. Good post though.

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Paintrain I think you made good points. There would be no player revolt, they'll adjust. But I do think changing systems is an issue. New terminology for the offense to learn, etcetera. More importantly though, I just don't see Fassel being able to replenish the team with equal minds once Saunders and Williams leave. I think the quality of our coaching overall will take a major hit.

Gregg is one of the very best defensive minds in the game. And if he leaves he'll take Jerry Gray with him. Saunders hasn't produced results in a full season yet, but we saw what it can do down the stretch. It's not so much changing of the scheme, it's the potential loss of a great staff that got us to the playoffs this year despite tons of injuries.

If we bring in Fassel but manage to keep GW and Saunders, then I'm very happy. I'm not liking that likelihood though.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;410734]Personally I wouldn't freak if Fassel is the guy. I always thought he got a raw deal in NY. And when you look at it objectively, he's a proven head coach in this league with a winning record that got a team all the way to a Super Bowl. The same can't be said for GW.[/QUOTE]

What??????

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Did someone actually suggest a player revolt? No way in hell that would happen. But the players, Gibbs, AND Snyder have all expressed a desire to maintain continuity. Bringing in a brand new coaching staff isn't continuity. Yes many of the same players will be here, but continuity will not.

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[quote=QBall;410759]What??????[/quote]

Dude, awesome post.

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