Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

[quote=wilsowilso;413159]Ha! I was making two seperate points, but I see now that it looks like I was addressing the system quarterback statement with an assault on the stats argument.[/quote]yeah...

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

Montano.

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

[QUOTE=wilsowilso;413132]Keep telling yourself Brady is a system quarterback. Don't be blinded by numbers.[/QUOTE]

I watched him play before this year. He wasnt great.

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

Elway. He got to 5 SBs and led his team to game winning TDs in big games. He had very little supporting cast.

Montana. Same as above, but had Rice, Clark, etc.

Brady. Wins a ton, but never gets the gw TD. How good would he be if Vanderjagt were his kicker?

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[url=http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2103_The_definitive_list%3A_Top_10_NFL_quarterbacks.html]Cold, Hard Football Facts.com: The definitive list: Top 10 NFL quarterbacks[/url]

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That's a really, really airtight case for Starr.

I'll still take Marino, but reading that article has definately improved my opinion of a guy who I thought was more of a system QB.

The rest of their list is meh, but I do support the Graham inclusion.

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

Id say Montana, Marino, Elway, Unitas, and Baugh in my top 5.

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever? not yet
 

He has a Great offensive line, 2 great/good recievers and one good one, a good TE, a good running back, and a very good/great defense.

Think about the situations he has been in this year, and how many current QBs would have great seasons on that same team...10 others? 15 others? That many would not set the records he did, but heres what I think..

I think there are about 15 current NFL QBs put on THAT team with a few years in their system would also be skipping the first round of the playoffs....and a couple of them would have been setting records as well.

my 2 cents

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

the most exciting ever by far is Brett Farve

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[quote=prinzeofmoval;413652]the most exciting ever by far is Brett Farve[/quote]

:food-smil I agree with you there.....

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[QUOTE=prinzeofmoval;413652]the most exciting ever by far is Brett Farve[/QUOTE]

Yeah watching Favre toss the ball up in triple coverage like he dont care is priceless.

Re: Is Tom Brady the best QB ever?
 

I have always believed that it is very difficult to compare quarterbacks from different eras. I felt the same way when people were saying that Joe Montana was arguably the best quarterback of all time.

The game has changed alot from the thirties, since Sammy Baugh introduced the forward pass to the game. Heck, it's changed a lot from the late 90's with new rules barring cb from mauling WR's, in the way Chris Dishman did and especially the way the Pats used to do.

I feel Tom Brady is the best quarterback from this era, with Peyton Manning not too far behind. I feel both of these quarterbacks could play in any system and succeed, but I'd love to see Petyon play with average WR's as Tom Brady did prior to this season. Brady made all receivers around him better than they actually were, such as Deion Branch whom has virtually disappeared since leaving the Pats.

Anyway, that is my answer, and I will always feel that way. It is the same for almost all positions, as it is very difficult to compare skilled positions of today to past eras. The easiest skill position to compare would be RB's, but it is still difficult, because defenses are much better now than before as they aren't read and react defenses like they were back in the 80's, early 90's and prior to this.

I hope this helps.