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[QUOTE=Defensewins;419342]He is doing everything himself. All interviews at his house. Some HC candidates are sleeping in his guest house.
Mr. Smootsmack - are you saying he is not involved in every aspect of the decision making of football operations?[/QUOTE]

Of course he's involved. He should be involved. But meetings at his house are nothing new and not a big deal. Would you prefer they be at your house?

And it's not like these are one on one meetings. Cerrato is there, other members of the ownership group are there.

I don't know. I really don't see him being involved with the interviews can be seen as a negative. Imagine the backlash if after a coach is selected Snyder said "I have nothing to say. I stayed out of it" "What? You're the owner of the damn team and you're not involved??? Go back to Johnny Rockets!"

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Snyder is always going to have his hand in things, like it or not. To what degree he does or has in the past nobody really knows. I guess it's just convenient to assume he's at fault for everything.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;419348]Snyder is always going to have his hand in things, like it or not. To what degree he does or has in the past nobody really knows. I guess it's just convenient to assume he's at fault for everything.[/QUOTE]

Are there any owners that don't have their hands in team affairs?

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;419349]Are there any owners that don't have their hands in team affairs?[/quote]

True.

I know if I owned a team I would be involved. How about everyone else?

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Any owner should be involved, but finding common sense in his actions is not exactly easy. Maybe there is a grand plan that is eluding the mass majority of us, but more and more it looks like DS doesn't know what he's doing. I don't really care who the next coach is going to be. I know they'll have one and I'll root for the team, but this disorganized mess is making it hard to get too excited.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;419348]Snyder is always going to have his hand in things, like it or not. To what degree he does or has in the past nobody really knows. I guess it's just convenient to assume he's at fault for everything.[/QUOTE]

Then they should put up a picture of Snyder with the slogan, "The buck doesn't stop here."
Because nobody knows who is calling the shots or taking ultimate responsibility.
So you are saying there is no leadership it is run by committee?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;419350]True.

I know if I owned a team I would be involved. How about everyone else?[/QUOTE]

I would be neck-deep in team affairs. I would almost totally defer to the "experts" when it comes to player acquisition and cap matters. However, I would want total control over the makeup of the coaching staff (though I would listen to others about the coach's abilities).

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[quote=texasskinsfan;419341]I must admit that I do like some of the things Dan Snyder has done in the community he lives in, it's hard not to appriciate that.

But getting down to football he is not a very good owner. What has this team won in the time he has been the owner? We've had three playoff appreances and that's it. Two of those three came in the four years Gibbs came back. Joe again has left the team in much better shape than he found it. I'm sure that Dan has his reasons for taking so long to hire a HC but still there must be something wrong with his approach in all of this that has keep him for hiring someone by now or that has made others say I don't want the job. It might be that no other coach wants to work for him other as the HC other than Fassal. Tell me that Meeks or Spags is not a much better choice than Fassal and Gregg Williams certainly was. The truth is The Washington Redskins have not been worth a damn under the ownership of Dan Synder and that's just that. I hope he sells the team soon. Because we as fans will never celebrate another world title with the team under Dan and his flunky Vinny C. Jack Kent Cook didn't agree with a lot of things Joe Gibbs wanted to do when Joe worked for Cook but he did so and things turned out pretty damn good I'd say, four Super Bowl trips and three Lombardi trophies to show for it.
Dan should have listen to Gibbs and hired Williams and things would have turned out much better for the team. It's truly a shame that this team is probably going to be around mediocore or worse with all of the talent it has just because the owner can't or want listen to the man who got this team back into the playoff 2 out of 4 years after being out of the league for 12 years and as I said earlier he has left the team in far better shape than he found it. It's a sad, sad time for the team and the fans.

But I've been pulling for the Skins for to long now to turn away so I'll just hope that things turn out well no matter who Dan hire as the HC.

So no I wouldn't want to be the guy hired as head coach after the OC and DC have been put in place. Because I would feel like I didn't have any control or the respect of the other coaches or the players.[/quote]
Dang we let GW go and I guess or SB went right out the door with him. How do you know if we are better off with GW by his record as a head coach?

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[quote=Defensewins;419370]Then they should put up a picture of Snyder with the slogan, "The buck doesn't stop here."
Because nobody knows who is calling the shots or taking ultimate responsibility.
So you are saying there is no leadership it is run by committee?[/quote]

I'm just saying we don't know that he's calling ALL of the shots as you say.

My guess is Cerrato has a pretty big say in things.

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I seem to recall the whole negotiation with the Bears LB that Snyder hot for this last offseason. I remember hearing Snyder negotiating with the guy in a bar with out Gibbs or any of the defensive coaches aware or consulted in any way about if they even wnated him. This is an example of Snyder getting too involved over his head.

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So many people have suggested that Mr. Snyder should just stand down, have no say in football matters, just let others run the team and he just sign the checks. Well, it's not going to happen. I'll be one of the first to admit the man has made some mistakes in his decision making, but whose perfect here? We all make mistakes, but to repeatedly point out his mistakes would cause one to wonder if he has any strengths'.

I do know one thing, if I pay $800mil for a sports franchise, I'm going to have some say as to how things are done. I may not always be right, and I may be critized, but that's the nature of the beast when you're in a position open to public scrunity.

Things weren't always coming up roses with Cooke, Bethard and Gibbs during the time when the team enjoyed success on a sustained basis either, but the key to it all was the team won games. It was also during a time when every household didn't have a computer, and so much propaganda spread through the various media outlets on a 24/7 cycle. I pray that I will live to see the day when Mr.Snyder finally gets it right, and the team will get back to winning on a consistent basis, however, until that day comes there will without a doubt be more threads like this one and the Snyder bashing will continue.

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I think you guys take things to such extremes. I am not advocating Mr. Snyder turn into a marsh mellow and just sign the checks. For eight years Snyder has done it his way and it has not worked. I would like see him be humble enough try something diffrent. Bring in a strong GM and let him call the player personnel shots with Snyder in an advisory role of course. But the Gm and HC should get the final say so. Then lets see what happens. It hasn't been tried. What is so wrong with trying something new?
It works for the other highly successful teams in the NFL, it might work for us?

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I hate to play the IF game.. But...
IF the Giants had lost against GB 3 weeks ago do you think we'd already have a coach in place since he was obviously waiting on Spagnuolo?
IF we had a coach in place do you think we'd care so much about Cerrato being named EVP?
IF we had a coach in place 3 weeks ago and Cerrato was named EVP would we still be talking about Snyder's meddling ways?

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;419404]It works for the other highly successful teams in the NFL, it might work for us?[/QUOTE]

Hiring a GM might work for us, but so might the current arrangement. Jerry Jones, as owner, has done quite well lately even though he is just as involved in team affairs as Dan Snyder.

I'm still convinced that most of our woes are attributable to our inability to find a quality quarterback. If JC develops into an above average QB, I think most of our woes will fall by the wayside.

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I don't have a problem with the Redskins structure or Danny's involvement. My concern is that Vinny may not be qualified for his job and he is the only person who has not been made accountable for the results of the team since Snyder has owned the team. Maybe this promotion for Vinny will finally make him accountable...if they win he stays and if they lose he goes. That's what it comes down to for me...I know Snyder will always be involved but if Vinny is going to be his right hand man then he needs to be judged on results only just like every other person Snyder has hired & fired.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;419414]Hiring a GM might work for us, but so might the current arrangement. Jerry Jones, as owner, has done quite well lately even though he is just as involved in team affairs as Dan Snyder.

I'm still convinced that most of our woes are attributable to our inability to find a quality quarterback. If JC develops into an above average QB, I think most of our woes will fall by the wayside.[/QUOTE]


And Jerry Jones is not constantly being bashed for the way he does things; Why? because his team wins. The reason Snyder takes the heat is because his teams have not been winners on a consistent basis. If the Redskins were winning [the way fans like to see them win] all of this talk about Snyder would be an afterthought.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;419152]As for Williams deserving it: He HAD been a good lieutenant. He did a fine job with the resources at hand. More importantly, last year, after a horrible prior year, Williams was willing to come in and, essentially, tear up the prior year's play book, stop forcing a system that wasn't necessarily suited to his players, and adapt so that, rather than his brilliance, the players abilities shined through. In other words, Williams as coach showed some essential growth by adapting to his players rather than having his players adapt (totally) to him. As a result, his coaching improved.

As for Snyder and William not getting along with people, or with each other: IMO, Snyder has NOT shown this ability to subordinate his will. Marty may have gutted the team and lost five, he then turned the team around and made a solid run. Even though Marty was turning things around from camp Norv, Snyder, in your words, "was uncomfortable". Why? B/c Marty was running the show, not Little Danny. Now, again, faced with a coach who had shown the ability to adapt to his talent and who had the backing of his players - Danny essentially is unable to subordinate his will to that of the "football man".

Bottom line - Danny, as Jerry Jones and Al Davis, wants to run the show. It's his property and he's the one who payed millions for it, but, until he has success, he will catch hell.

Part of the problem with his obsession to succeed is that it appears to be a need to succeed [I]his way[/I]. "His way" has not been a success, and, because of its lack of success, he has little credibility w/ fans or the national press when continues to pursue it.

B/c I am a fan, I hope he succeeds - not b/c I wish any particular goodwill to Little Danny, but b/c I am sick of my team being mediocre.[/quote]

Awesome post, good points in the parallel between Marty & GW.

One footnote to add, it's interesting to look back at Spurrier's time here w/regards to personel. All those journeymen gators came here, and I would doubt that was coincidence. Spurrier at least had a lot of input. So, while marty was canned maybe because he had too much control, the danny has shown signs of giving in to the people he hires. Maybe this time around he's really giving Vinny a lot of authority.

I think you're right overall, but we're still learning danny's "way" just as he is.

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[QUOTE=celts32;419429]I don't have a problem with the Redskins structure or Danny's involvement. My concern is that Vinny may not be qualified for his job and he is the only person who has not been made accountable for the results of the team since Snyder has owned the team. Maybe this promotion for Vinny will finally make him accountable...if they win he stays and if they lose he goes. That's what it comes down to for me...I know Snyder will always be involved but if Vinny is going to be his right hand man then he needs to be judged on results only just like every other person Snyder has hired & fired.[/QUOTE]

This year will be a clearer picture as to what Vinny can do for us. In seasons past, it wasn't always clear as to who was actually controlling personnel. At times we didn't always know to give Gibbs or Vinny credit. Likewise, we didn't know to blame Gibbs or Vinny. We always assumed Gibbs made the right moves and Vinny the wrong ones. Maybe that's because it's so easy to blame VC. Still, as things stands for ol' Vinny now, it's all up to him. If we make some very bad choices in player personnel this year, we can sure as the world blame VC.

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Simply put, Daniel Snyder is the Franchise Terminator
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He's running the Skins like Skynet and were not going to be safe until someone like John Conner unseats him. Somebody safe us!

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[quote=Longtimefan;419433]And Jerry Jones is not constantly being bashed for the way he does things; Why? because his team wins. The reason Snyder takes the heat is because his teams have not been winners on a consistent basis. If the Redskins were winning [the way fans like to see them win] all of this talk about Snyder would be an afterthought.[/quote]

One of the reasons, or maybe, THE reason his team has had winning seasons 3 of the last 5 years is he hired a football guy & gave him a lot of authority - the tuna. JJ has mellowed a lot too & has learned from his mistakes.

Don't forget he's been on the job 10 years longer than danny & is a couple decades+ older. The Danny will mellow & learn too. Either that or sell!!

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;419435]This year will be a clearer picture as to what Vinny can do for us. In seasons past, it wasn't always clear as to who was actually controlling personnel. At times we didn't always know to give Gibbs or Vinny credit. Likewise, we didn't know to blame Gibbs or Vinny. We always assumed Gibbs made the right moves and Vinny the wrong ones. Maybe that's because it's so easy to blame VC. Still, as things stands for ol' Vinny now, it's all up to him. If we make some very bad choices in player personnel this year, we can sure as the world blame VC.[/QUOTE]

True but it's not just the Gibbs years, save for when Marty fired him Vinny has had some level of input every year in what has been a pretty mediocre tenure. Many people have been hired and fired since then...I would just like Dan to hold Vinny to the same level of expectations that he holds everyone else. I think the perception is that he's not because he has survived every coaching change without ever getting a finger pointed at him.

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[quote=Longtimefan;419433]And Jerry Jones is not constantly being bashed for the way he does things; Why? because his team wins. The reason Snyder takes the heat is because his teams have not been winners on a consistent basis. If the Redskins were winning [the way fans like to see them win] all of this talk about Snyder would be an afterthought.[/quote]

This has been discussed in other threads recently but in this decade the Cowboys aren't significantly better than the Redskins regarding wins and losses, and they haven't won a playoff game in forever either. Jones won back in the day with JJ, who let's face it had a great eye for talent and was mainly responsible for their success.

I honestly don't think the disdain for Snyder will ever completely go away. It comes and goes, but it seems whenever there's an opportunity to pounce, people jump all over him.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;419441]One of the reasons, or maybe, THE reason his team has had winning seasons 3 of the last 5 years is he hired a football guy & gave him a lot of authority - the tuna. JJ has mellowed a lot too & has learned from his mistakes.

Don't forget he's been on the job 10 years longer than danny & is a couple decades+ older. The Danny will mellow & learn too. Either that or sell!![/QUOTE]


You make a good point, sometimes I think we forget just how young Snyder is, and he's learning on the fly. He has had three playoff apearences in the eight yrs. he's owned the team, that's more than some owners can boast that have been owners' much longer than he has.

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[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/02/other_names.html]Other Names - Redskins Insider[/url]

It seems the only candidate left is the one that is going to be selected by default.

This is just Fasseltastic!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;419451]This has been discussed in other threads recently but in this decade the Cowboys aren't significantly better than the Redskins regarding wins and losses, and they haven't won a playoff game in forever either. Jones won back in the day with JJ, who let's face it had a great eye for talent and was mainly responsible for their success.

I honestly don't think the disdain for Snyder will ever completely go away. It comes and goes, but it seems whenever there's an opportunity to pounce, people jump all over him.[/QUOTE]


I agree Matty, and just can't help but wonder why Snyder takes so much blame for the way he operates when in reality it's so simular to the way JJ run the Cowboys.

You're probably correct when it comes to the disdain for Snyder though, and every now and then it apears to be open season.

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Is it true Snyder was pissed at Williams becuase he never told Joe Gibbs about the 10 men on the field thing when Sean Taylor died?As I understand it he feels if the head coach did'nt trust him no one can.

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;419465]I agree Matty, and just can't help but wonder why Snyder takes so much blame for the way he operates when in reality it's so simular to the way JJ run the Cowboys.

You're probably correct when it comes to the disdain for Snyder though, and every now and then it apears to be open season.[/QUOTE]

There are two huge differences between Jerry Jones and Snyder:

1) JERRY Jones has won several Super Bowls; Mr. Snyder in 8 years still has to buy tickets to go to one.
2) Mr. Jones comes from a huge football background. He was a star Rb out of High school and received multiple scholarship offers to play at major NCAA Div I schools. He ended up at U of Arkansas with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer.
Mr. Snyder has never been on or around any organized major football team.
Even his high school team that he was not on (B.C.C.) is perennially a terrible team. So I do not understand why he thinks he has the knowledge to be the final say in all player operations? He has proven over the last eight years he is not football savvy.

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I'm not sure he's losing respect, but I do believe he clearly miscalculated the coaching situation. i'm not one to criticize Snyder, mostly because I think he listened to what his coaches told him they needed (ie- why i so hard on the coaches). At this point, we erred in signing coordinators ahead of the head coach, and I think Snyder knows it. live and learn- I think he'll get it right soon. not a fan of Vinny- at all.

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Chris Berman expresses my feelings on the Redskins coaching search
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnC8BtNBNLo]YouTube - Chris Berman Goes Crazy[/url]

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;419483]There are two huge differences between Jerry Jones and Snyder:

1) JERRY Jones has won several Super Bowls; Mr. Snyder in 8 years still has to buy tickets to go to one.
2) Mr. Jones comes from a huge football background. He was a star Rb out of High school and received multiple scholarship offers to play at major NCAA Div I schools. He ended up at U of Arkansas with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer.
Mr. Snyder has never been on or around any organized major football team.
Even his high school team that he was not on (B.C.C.) is perennially a terrible team. So I do not understand why he thinks he has the knowledge to be the final say in all player operations? He has proven over the last eight years he is not football savvy.[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't argue with one single thing you said, but when ownership was transfered form the Cooke Foundation and Daniel Snyder asumed ownership, there was no criteria established that the new owner had to have a football background, or any previous association with the world of sports. Had that been the case, then perhaps Snyder would not have been able to purchase the team. Snyder is what he is, and unfortunately he's what we have to live with unless he decides to sell the team.

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;419488]I wouldn't argue with one single thing you said, but when ownership was transfered form the Cooke Foundation and Daniel Snyder asumed ownership, there was no criteria established that the new owner had to have a football background, or any previous association with the world of sports. Had that been the case, then perhaps Snyder would not have been able to purchase the team. Snyder is what he is, and unfortunately he's what we have to live with unless he decides to sell the team.[/QUOTE]

You miss my point. I am not saying there needs to be a criteria for an owner to know about football before he buys a team. Jack Kent Cooke was not a football man either but he knew to stay clear and let the professionals do their jobs. I don't care if the Pope buys the team, I just don't want the Pope to think he can be our President and GM like Snyder thinks he can.
Snyder wants to be like Jerry Jones but he does not have the background to do it.

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Dan is a Redskin Fan FIRST and a business man second.Yes it seems as though he has [EMAIL="f@#ked"]f@#ked[/EMAIL] up but if any of us had the money and power that dan has we would be doing the same thing.Dan just wants whats best for the redskin family.Yes he should have kept greg williams but we dont know what went on behind closed doors,so thats that. Now keeping it REAL,who ever dan chooses is going to work with the talent we have and it wont be no slouch whom ever he is and you can bank on that shit,fo REAL!We dont need cower,mooch,greg,al,jimmy,spags,fassels or whoever!What we need is a young coach with vision on how this game needs to be played period,some one like that boy in pittsburg or jeff fisher,get the picture.Its going to take some time beleive that shit.My wife and myself went to our first redskin game at fedex and we had a BLAST!!!! so we now take a week of vacation to see a redskin game at home,feel me?Dan is not STUPID and dont forget that. Peace out and HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!![INDENT][quote=Skinny Tee;419060][I][COLOR=red][From JLC Insider:[/COLOR][/I]
[I][COLOR=red]NSpagnuolo and Jim Mora both pulled out on the Redskins and went on to lucrative deals elsewhere. Gregg Williams was on the verge of pulling out several times with Joe Gibbs urging him not to. Bill Cowher and Pete Carroll didn't want the job under this front office structure at all.[/COLOR][/I]

[I][COLOR=red]Looks like a highly devalued position. Hard to spin it any other way."][/COLOR][/I]

[COLOR=black]Snyder's ill repute is starting to preceed him now. Coaches are now not even dumb enough to jeopardize their advancement for the windfall of riches that awaits them here as HC.[/COLOR]

If Jim Fassel doesn't scream devalued position I don't know what does.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;419492]You miss my point. I am not saying there needs to be a criteria for an owner to know about football before he buys a team. Jack Kent Cooke was not a football man either but he knew to stay clear and let the professionals do their jobs. I don't care if the Pope buys the team, I just don't want the Pope to think he can be our President and GM like Snyder thinks he can.
Snyder wants to be like Jerry Jones but he does not have the background to do it.[/QUOTE]


Jack Kent Cooke had vast knowledge of how the professional sports world operated because he had previously owned sporting franchises', not in football but Hockey and Basketball.

Mr. Cooke was also more hands-on than many people realize. He came very close to firing Joe Gibbs at the beginning of his first tenure here, it's just that during that time, every little thing wasn't scrutinized and made public the way it is today.

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Sorry, that just didn't make sense getting these assistants before getting the HC. I mean who ever has heard of that before? Usually the HC brings in his own guys so they are on the same page and have good chemistry together. With the way it is you are forcing the HC to adapt to total strangers that might have a different vision than he does, and this might cause some future discord down the line. Snyder screwed up bigtime when he canned Marty. Marty could have gotten us to the next level. I do not think the Skins are going to get to the next level for some time now until a GM is in place and/or Snyder gets cured of his control freak problem.

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[quote=redduke44;419495]Dan is a Redskin Fan FIRST and a business man second.Yes it seems as though he has f@#ked up but if any of us had the money and power that dan has we would be doing the same thing.Dan just wants whats best for the redskin family.Yes he should have kept greg williams but we dont know what went on behind closed doors,so thats that. Now keeping it REAL,who ever dan chooses is going to work with the talent we have and it wont be no slouch whom ever he is and you can bank on that shit,fo REAL!We dont need cower,mooch,greg,al,jimmy,spags,fassels or whoever!What we need is a young coach with vision on how this game needs to be played period,some one like that boy in pittsburg or jeff fisher,get the picture.Its going to take some time beleive that shit.My wife and myself went to our first redskin game at fedex and we had a BLAST!!!! so we now take a week of vacation to see a redskin game at home,feel me?Dan is not STUPID and dont forget that. Peace out and HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

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I can tell that you're new to the board and also to phonetics.

I respectfully regret to tell you that I did not, at anypoint during your tirade, feel you or understand you for that matter.

It seems as if the only thing we have in common is our fondness for the Redskins, here is to keeping it that way.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;419152]As for Williams deserving it: He HAD been a good lieutenant. He did a fine job with the resources at hand. [B]More importantly, last year, after a horrible prior year, Williams was willing to come in and, essentially, tear up the prior year's play book, stop forcing a system that wasn't necessarily suited to his players, and adapt so that, rather than his brilliance, the players abilities shined through. In other words, Williams as coach showed some essential growth by adapting to his players rather than having his players adapt (totally) to him. As a result, his coaching improved.[/B]

[B]Bottom line - Danny, as Jerry Jones and Al Davis, wants to run the show. It's his property and he's the one who payed millions for it, but, until he has success, he will catch hell. [/B]

Part of the problem with his obsession to succeed is that it appears to be a need to succeed [I]his way[/I]. "His way" has not been a success, and, because of its lack of success, he has little credibility w/ fans or the national press when continues to pursue it.[/QUOTE]

Damn fine points. You get a big star for that one.

Your first point is especially important. The adjustment that Williams had to go through after the disaster of 2006 is something that we may not have seen if Lil' Danny had his way. In fact, it sheds light on the mentality of Snyder hiring coordinators before getting a head coach. He wants the ability to fire them if he doesn't like what he sees.

It's something that probably ate away at Snyder during the Gibbs years. You can just tell he was feverishly biting his nails at the chance to drop the ax on both Williams and Saunders when things weren't going right.

So it all makes sense now. Hire the coordinators first, -- new head coach comes in with the understanding that he has no contol over the offensive and defensive staff leaders, -- Lil' Danny gets impatient with the offense or defense, and boom! He can fire them midseason if need be because he hired them and the coach didn't.

Sheer brilliance on the part of Dan Snyder.

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[QUOTE=redduke44;419495]Dan is a Redskin Fan FIRST and a business man second.Yes it seems as though he has [EMAIL="f@#ked"]f@#ked[/EMAIL] up but if any of us had the money and power that dan has we would be doing the same thing.Dan just wants whats best for the redskin family.Yes he should have kept greg williams but we dont know what went on behind closed doors,so thats that. Now keeping it REAL,who ever dan chooses is going to work with the talent we have and it wont be no slouch whom ever he is and you can bank on that shit,fo REAL!We dont need cower,mooch,greg,al,jimmy,spags,fassels or whoever!What we need is a young coach with vision on how this game needs to be played period,some one like that boy in pittsburg or jeff fisher,get the picture.Its going to take some time beleive that shit.My wife and myself went to our first redskin game at fedex and we had a BLAST!!!! so we now take a week of vacation to see a redskin game at home,feel me?Dan is not STUPID and dont forget that. Peace out and HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!
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Just a whisper redduke, Mike Tomlin might take exception to being refered to as "BOY".

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Russ is the only one that can fix this.

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In response to the titular question of this thread: Has Dan Snyder ever held any measurable amount of respect around the NFL? He's got a fat wallet, but not a lot else. I think that this offseason has been hugely negative for the perception of the Washington Redskins around the league. If this team doesn't start conducting business in a manner that is widely respected, they will find it harder to attract quality free agents and coaches. We can always rely on getting the player looking for a huge pay day, but that seldom benefits the team in the long run. I've honestly had this feeling lately that one day we'll be watching the draft and our first round pick will refuse to play for the 'Skins ala Eli Manning/John Elway. When/If that happens, we know we've hit rock bottom in the respect dept.

Re: Dan Snyder losing respectability?
 

[quote=belloni79;419525]Russ is the only one that can fix this.[/quote]

i do feel like he will have to bring in someone with ties to the organization to re-establish trust.