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MTK 02-27-2008 11:06 AM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=Schneed10;426617]It's tough to believe that simply because I can't recall the last time I saw a post from you giving praise to the team of any sort.

You may think positive things about the team, but since you don't seem to post them, you come across very negative.[/quote]

He did say he loved the selection of Zorn as HC, but that's about the only positive thing I can find looking at his last 50 posts or so.

SkinsFanSince91 02-27-2008 11:12 AM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;426328]It'd be an easier pill to swallow if it was an unrestricted free agency move...but it wasn't. It was a trade, a bad trade. The only solace we can take, I suppose, is that the Niners wasted the picks.[/QUOTE]

Can anyone be a nerd real quick and research who the 49ers got at those picks, so we can see how much the FO messed up by going with Lloyd over draft picks.

That Guy 02-27-2008 11:28 AM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=SkinsFanSince91;426623]Can anyone be a nerd real quick and research who the 49ers got at those picks, so we can see how much the FO messed up by going with Lloyd over draft picks.[/quote]

the 11$mill, wasted roster spot, and waste cap/time isn't enough?

skinsfan69 02-27-2008 11:31 AM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=QBall;426587]I guess so. Can't really fault Gibbs for the move. We came so close in 05' and needed offense. The guy looked good in SF but who really knew what type of headcase Lloyd really was.

Although I do think that giving draft picks away for right now players is not a good strategy. Think we're shying away from that but who knows with this draft.

Is there anyone on the board you envision us trading up for?[/quote]

If the FO had done their homework they would've known he was a bad locker room guy. I remember reading about Lloyd in a fantasy football magazine and it was saying how he ( and Kevan Barlow) were HATED by all of the veterans that were on SF. It said that he was more worried about his dread locks and music career rather than playing football. Now if I can pick this out of a magazine then I'm sure our FO can pick up the phone and ask around. Don't ya think?? But hey, that's all in the past and he's a gone so let's move forward.

I'd prefer that we don't pick any wr's in the first two rounds. DE and guard would be my first two choices. It looks like we can and should make a move for Hackett. He's put up some big numbers when he's healthy so maybe he'll come here and take the next step. But only for the right price.

skinsfan69 02-27-2008 11:33 AM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=That Guy;426625]the 11$mill, wasted roster spot, and waste cap/time isn't enough?[/quote]

LOL!!! I kind of agree with you. I don't ever want to talk about this bum again. One of the worst moves ever by the FO.

saden1 02-27-2008 11:54 AM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Gentlemen, let the Lloyd bashing continue. The thread is all about him after all.

freddyg12 02-27-2008 12:10 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=skinsfan69;426626][B]If the FO had done their homework[/B] they would've known he was a bad locker room guy. I remember reading about Lloyd in a fantasy football magazine and it was saying how he ( and Kevan Barlow) were HATED by all of the veterans that were on SF. It said that he was more worried about his dread locks and music career rather than playing football. Now if I can pick this out of a magazine then I'm sure our FO can pick up the phone and ask around. Don't ya think?? But hey, that's all in the past and he's a gone so let's move forward.

I'd prefer that we don't pick any wr's in the first two rounds. DE and guard would be my first two choices. It looks like we can and should make a move for Hackett. He's put up some big numbers when he's healthy so maybe he'll come here and take the next step. But only for the right price.[/quote]

Interesting "talking points" from Kornheiser & Wilbon on Loyd. Pay attention to what Wilbon says early on; that people in the front office said no to signing Loyd.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/03/21/VI2007032101985.html]Talking Points -- Today's hot Sports Topics with The Post's Tony Kornheiser, Michael Wilbon and Sports Editor Cindy Boren. - washingtonpost.com[/url]

MTK 02-27-2008 12:15 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Did Tony say that Snyder signed Stubblefield? C'mon Tony do your homework. We signed Stubby in 1998, that didn't happen on Snyder's watch.

rickmmrr 02-27-2008 12:18 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=Soup's Uncle;426610]My Name is B-Lloyd
I got cut today
Gonna go to a new team
& it'll be okay
Runnin shitty routes
& sittin on da pine
You may think I care
but I don't mind

-B. Lloyd[/QUOTE]

That's funny as hell.

freddyg12 02-27-2008 12:38 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=Mattyk72;426646]Did Tony say that Snyder signed Stubblefield? C'mon Tony do your homework. We signed Stubby in 1998, that didn't happen on Snyder's watch.[/quote]

good catch, that was in the ownerless year when John Cooke was runnin things sorta, right?

otherwise, this bit was quite revealing about the decision making at Redskin Park. Wilbon said after Gibbs retired that in several instances the team would've been better off if they'd listened to V. Cerrato. Wonder if this was one of those cases.

SkinsFanSince91 02-27-2008 12:45 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=saden1;426480]I can't stop weeping :doh:[/QUOTE]

If you weep, weep only because we lost draft picks for that clown.

Soup's Uncle 02-27-2008 12:45 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
We should start (or just do it on this thread) a Brandon Lloyd sayonara rap series. I think it'd be hotter than Chris Cooley's wife.

skinsfan69 02-27-2008 01:11 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=Mattyk72;426646]Did Tony say that Snyder signed Stubblefield? C'mon Tony do your homework. We signed Stubby in 1998, that didn't happen on Snyder's watch.[/quote]

He did say that. Bad. That was a John Cooke & Charley Casserly move. I think they signed Dan W. that same year.

skinsfan69 02-27-2008 01:16 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=freddyg12;426643]Interesting "talking points" from Kornheiser & Wilbon on Loyd. Pay attention to what Wilbon says early on; that people in the front office said no to signing Loyd.

[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/03/21/VI2007032101985.html"]Talking Points -- Today's hot Sports Topics with The Post's Tony Kornheiser, Michael Wilbon and Sports Editor Cindy Boren. - washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]

Thanks for posting. So I guess the scouts did their jobs. Vinny, Snyder and Gibbs simply did not listen. Very surprising since Joe is so high on bringing character guys in. Lesson learned. The hard way.

irish 02-27-2008 01:25 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;426622]He did say he loved the selection of Zorn as HC, but that's about the only positive thing I can find looking at his last 50 posts or so.[/QUOTE]

I do love the selection of the Zornato and I believe I gave props to the great job Todd Collins did in saving the season.

SC Skins Fan 02-27-2008 01:28 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=skinsfan69;426664]He did say that. Bad. That was a John Cooke & Charley Casserly move. I think they signed Dan W. that same year.[/quote]

The Wilkinson move was a trade too (did that involve a first rounder? So long ago), but he was actually somewhat productive in Washington for a few years.

firstdown 02-27-2008 01:28 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
The coaches and FO assesment of BL was as bad as his play.

SC Skins Fan 02-27-2008 01:32 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=firstdown;426671]The coaches and FO assesment of BL was as bad as his play.[/quote]

Not that Redskins Warpath should be held to the same level of scrutiny, but the drumbeat on here was pretty loud too ... almost unanimously positive if you go back and look.

SmootSmack 02-27-2008 01:42 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;426666]Thanks for posting. So I guess the scouts did their jobs. Vinny, Snyder and Gibbs simply did not listen. Very surprising since Joe is so high on bringing character guys in. Lesson learned. The hard way.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget Saunders. He was very high on this move.

SmootSmack 02-27-2008 01:44 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;426626]If the FO had done their homework they would've known he was a bad locker room guy. I remember reading about Lloyd in a fantasy football magazine and it was saying how he ( and Kevan Barlow) were HATED by all of the veterans that were on SF. It said that he was more worried about his dread locks and music career rather than playing football. Now if I can pick this out of a magazine then I'm sure our FO can pick up the phone and ask around. Don't ya think?? But hey, that's all in the past and he's a gone so let's move forward.

I'd prefer that we don't pick any wr's in the first two rounds. DE and guard would be my first two choices. It looks like we can and should make a move for Hackett. He's put up some big numbers when he's healthy so maybe he'll come here and take the next step. But only for the right price.[/QUOTE]

I think the real problem is that the Redskins knew of his problems but they thought they could change him. They were like that girl with the jerk boyfriend "I know he's an ass, but I love him and I can change him!!"

Redskins_P 02-27-2008 01:46 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=SmootSmack;426680]I think the real problem is that the Redskins knew of his problems but they thought they could change him. They were like that girl with the jerk boyfriend "I know he's an ass, but I love him and I can change him!!"[/quote]

You must be referring to YOUR girlfriend, right? ;)

calia 02-27-2008 01:50 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
What's amazing to me is that in 2 years, he made $11 million and had a whopping 23 catches to show for it. In other words, about $500,000 per catch. :doh:

GTripp0012 02-27-2008 01:52 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=SC Skins Fan;426598]I just went back to look at who was available in the 2006 draft, just for kicks, and you want to see a real kick in the groin? Check this out:

119Denver (from Washington)[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Marshall"][COLOR=#0000ff]Brandon Marshall[/COLOR][/URL]Wide receiver[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Central_Florida"][COLOR=#0000ff]UCF[/COLOR][/URL]

So Denver got Brandon Marshall with one of our picks. You know, the same Brandon Marshall that had 102 receptions for 1,325 yards and 7 tds last year. That 6-4 230 lbs. guy who is the reason the Broncos can trade Javon Walker without giving it a second thought. Another thing to keep in mind when we start getting too cavalier about trading away picks ....

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jcMZirTPaI"]YouTube - Brandon Marshall highlights[/URL][/quote]To be fair, I believe that pick was sent to Denver in the deal that brought us the pick that we used on Campbell the year before.

SmootSmack 02-27-2008 01:56 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=Redskins_P;426681]You must be referring to YOUR girlfriend, right? ;)[/QUOTE]

Of course :)

MTK 02-27-2008 01:59 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=SmootSmack;426678]Don't forget Saunders. He was very high on this move.[/quote]

I almost think that Gibbs let Saunders call that shot.

RobH4413 02-27-2008 02:10 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
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It probably shouldn't have been that tough of a call... his work ethic was pretty much a joke.


I just wish Grim21Reaper could come back and apologize to Rexi...

[quote=Rexi;203143]I'm not being a homer. Have I said, THE REDSKINS SUK THE 49ERS R 4 REALZ! No. You guys have a great thing going over there, Randle El and Moss are both good receivers. The Redskins are a lot better than the 49ers are right now. I am just saying that trading for Lloyd was a really bad move. He isn't a physical threat, he won't break tackles or fight for yards. He will just make a circus catch and jump on the ground. Also he runs poor routes and makes too many mental mistakes.[/quote]

well damn.

irish 02-27-2008 02:30 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;426688]I almost think that Gibbs let Saunders call that shot.[/QUOTE]

I dont think Gibbs let Saunders call any shots.

MTK 02-27-2008 03:08 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
All I know is Saunders was reportedly hot on Lloyd so it wouldn't shock me if Gibbs deferred to him on that decision. Especially since there were several folks in the front office strongly opposed to acquiring him.

Soup's Uncle 02-27-2008 03:46 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
dude, that video is awesome.

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-27-2008 04:03 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
OMFG! We did not cut Brandon Lloyd! He was our best reciever! I mean, the guy is the best wideout this league has seen in 20 years! HAHAHAHA.......

I saw a video a while back of B. Lloyd in SF alligator arming a pass over the middle that he was wide open for. I wanna see that again so bad. As soon as I saw it I said, "Yep, better get used to that."

Interesting fact: Lloyd has averaged 1.5 yds per game since he's been here. What production! How much did he get paid? Lol.....I thank god he's gone. Maybe he'll go to Baltimore and wreck they're shit up a little....

Vulta121 02-27-2008 04:31 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Him getting cut is the best news that I have got in 08.

GusFrerotte 02-27-2008 08:42 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Cmon now guys, Lloyd was a waste of space here. Signing him even at league minimum is still wasting a roster spot for some young kid that will be more than eager to contribute once drafted. Good riddance!!!!!!!!

Dirtbag59 02-27-2008 08:56 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;426759]OMFG! We did not cut Brandon Lloyd! He was our best reciever! I mean, the guy is the best wideout this league has seen in 20 years! HAHAHAHA.......

I saw a video a while back of B. Lloyd in SF alligator arming a pass over the middle that he was wide open for. I wanna see that again so bad. As soon as I saw it I said, "Yep, better get used to that."

Interesting fact: Lloyd has averaged 1.5 yds per game since he's been here. What production! How much did he get paid? Lol.....I thank god he's gone. Maybe he'll go to Baltimore and wreck they're shit up a little....[/quote]

Well, I checked the thread where it was originally posted by 9erman, but the Gif has been taken down. Anyway, the great thing about this forum is it serves as a time capsule

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/11409-does-lloyds-attitude-bother-anyone.html?highlight=Brandon+LLoyd[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/11423-lloyd-trade-done.html?highlight=Brandon+LLoyd[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/11400-brandon-lloyd-vs-javon-walker.html?highlight=Brandon+LLoyd[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/11374-brandon-lloyd.html?highlight=Brandon+LLoyd[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/11404-compensation-for-lloyd.html?highlight=Brandon+LLoyd[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/11471-meet-brandon-lloyd.html?highlight=Brandon+LLoyd[/URL]

T.O.Killa 02-27-2008 09:04 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Hey, it may have already been said, aparently the Redskins are going to take the cap hit next year.

Dirtbag59 02-27-2008 09:19 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Remember always trust Dirtbag359, the guy that said that Reggie Bush would be better then Mario Williams.

[B]03-11-2006, 04:46 PM:[/B]
[quote=Dirtbag359;159203]Man I hate this thread. Now I'm starting to get a bad feeling about Lloyd. Screw you 9erman. You made me think.[/quote]

Should have listened to me back then front office, should have listened to me.

DynamiteRave 02-27-2008 09:48 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;426890]Remember always trust Dirtbag359, the guy that said that Reggie Bush would be better then Mario Williams.

[B]03-11-2006, 04:46 PM:[/B]


Should have listened to me back then front office, should have listened to me.[/quote]

Oh wise and powerful Oz aka Dirtbag359. Please predict our 1 big off-season FA acquisition!

If you're correct we shall pay you in jewels! :D

Dirtbag59 02-27-2008 10:00 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;426904]Oh wise and powerful Oz aka Dirtbag359. Please predict our 1 big off-season FA acquisition!

If you're correct we shall pay you in jewels! :D[/quote]

Ahh so you have seeked me out. I for see Vince Young becoming a pocket passer. (Oh shut up stooge, who cares if its not a FA acquisition, its still a prediction). I also foresee a 26 page "Vince Young Underrated" thread. Wait whats this, Patrick Ramsey is sitting at home, watching a green field with men running into each other.

But wait, I see a Christmas card, on the back is says, "Thanks Danny for the picks, enjoy" I can't quite read the names besides Danny.

Oh now what is this, Reggie Bush is averaging more then 4 yards per carry.

Matt Leinart is throwing with his right hand.

Hmm 2008 will be an interesting year.

SBXVII 02-27-2008 11:33 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Oh...Man....you wrote to fast Dirtbag. I missed your prediction of [B]OUR[/B] 1 big off-season move this year. Sheash. Now I'll have to wait and see.

(whisper): I heard some one let BLloyd go. He's now a FA. I think we should take him for vet min and keep the Cowpies or Eagles from getting him.

You know how this always works out for us. Our bust.....another teams gem. LOL.

SBXVII 02-27-2008 11:47 PM

Re: Redskins Release Brandon Lloyd
 
Ok guys go back to the video and look at the third clip at the bottom it looks like LSU vs Ill. Are they talking about and showing our non productive, non touchdown player BLloyd actually getting a touch down?.......as a QB? If it is then I know why he was so terrible for us.....LOL. we had him as a WR. LOL.


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