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[quote=jsarno;437349]If I get it, I'll be sure to post it somehow...although I said that about my wife's new camry and have yet to take a picture of it.[/quote]
how big are you? i had a 325, and at 6'2", that car was way too small for a bigger guy.

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Hey J, this is a little off topic, but not really. I am looking into this as my next vehicle.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KecmtQ60Ic]YouTube - Roadfly.com - 2008 Lexus IS-F from NAIAS[/url]

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;437353]not really, they are both German and have similar parts.. [B]it's like Acura is to Honda as BMW is to VW..[/B][/QUOTE]

No, Acura to Honda is not equal to BMW to VW. Honda and Acura have the same parent companies, while BMW and VW have different parent companies. A correct correlation would be Acura is to Honda what Audi is to VW.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;437377]Hey J, this is a little off topic, but not really. I am looking into this as my next vehicle.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KecmtQ60Ic]YouTube - Roadfly.com - 2008 Lexus IS-F from NAIAS[/url][/QUOTE]

Awesome car. Gotta get some pics up here if/when you get it. :D

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[quote=cpayne5;437413]Awesome car. Gotta get some pics up here if/when you get it. :D[/quote]

Shit, I got to sell the EVO first.

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I would like to defend New Mexico and El Paso. If you are any kind of outdoors men, New Mexico is for you. It isn't all desert, I live about a 2 hour drive from beautiful mountains. If you love skiing and snow boarding, NM is awesome. You like camping and fishing, NM is great! Hunting ? Everywhere. I live and go to school in Las Cruces and the cost living is cheap and schooling is cheap. You can buy a nice 4 bedroom house for 150,000. Juarez is close and fun. Bit of a drug war going on, but hey that's not going to stop me from rooting on the US women against Mexico! Anyway, the only bad thing is, like jsarno said, is that you have to travel long distances to get anywhere.

As far ad El Paso being high in crime, that inst accurate at all.
"The National Crime Prevention Council ranked El Paso as one of "Six Safer Cities" across the nation. In 2001, Money Magazine ranked El Paso as the 3rd safest city with a population of over 500,000 in the US. In the same category, the Christian Science Monitor rated El Paso No. 1 in 1999."
[url=http://www.elpaso.org/relocation.asp]El Paso Relocation[/url]

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[QUOTE=NM Redskin;437546]I would like to defend New Mexico and El Paso. If you are any kind of outdoors men, New Mexico is for you. It isn't all desert, I live about a 2 hour drive from beautiful mountains. If you love skiing and snow boarding, NM is awesome. You like camping and fishing, NM is great! Hunting ? Everywhere. I live and go to school in Las Cruces and the cost living is cheap and schooling is cheap. You can buy a nice 4 bedroom house for 150,000. Juarez is close and fun. Bit of a drug war going on, but hey that's not going to stop me from rooting on the US women against Mexico! Anyway, the only bad thing is, like jsarno said, is that you have to travel long distances to get anywhere.

As far ad El Paso being high in crime, that inst accurate at all.
"The National Crime Prevention Council ranked El Paso as one of "Six Safer Cities" across the nation. In 2001, Money Magazine ranked El Paso as the 3rd safest city with a population of over 500,000 in the US. In the same category, the Christian Science Monitor rated El Paso No. 1 in 1999."
[url=http://www.elpaso.org/relocation.asp]El Paso Relocation[/url][/QUOTE]

Those numbers are a little unfair, because there is NOTHING outside of El Paso, while normal big cities have suburbs which means more people to inflate the numbers. For instance, Baltmore, Maryland has a similar population, but if you add in all the surrounding areas there are A LOT more people to do crime...by triple I'd wager. I lived in Billerica, MA which is 15 minutes northwest of Boston. If I went into Boston and committed a crime, their rate would go up even though I am not from there. There are NO towns outside of El Paso, it's in the middle of nowhere. So those numbers are not legit.
This is also the wrong time to be defending El Paso considering it's neighbor (juarez, mexico as you pointed out) just had 450 murders recently.
There is a reason people have bars on their windows, and it's not cause it's a safe city. Everyone that lives in these areas are fully aware of El Paso's issues...I know A LOT of people that live in Cruces simply cause they can't stand to live in El Paso due to crime. This is one time the numbers do not add up.

If you are a hunter, yes the outdoors in New Mexico is perfect for you.
ps- Ruidoso is not a great mountain...I like going up there, but often times (like this year) there just isn't enough snow there. You have to drive beyond Santa Fe (like Taos) to get to a good mountain. It's fun if you're not used to good mountains.
I actually like Cruces. Not a bad town. There is a lot more to do there. I like Northern New Mexico too. If you haven't been to Carlsbad, you can't really comment on it. Carlsbad is THE hottest town in all of New Mexico too. It rivals Phoenix during the summer...usually we are only 5 degrees less.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;437377]Hey J, this is a little off topic, but not really. I am looking into this as my next vehicle.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KecmtQ60Ic]YouTube - Roadfly.com - 2008 Lexus IS-F from NAIAS[/url][/QUOTE]

Holy crap dude, that car STARTS at 56k doesn't it? If I had that kind of money, I'd be driving a vette.
Nice car, that's for sure, but that's waaaaay out of my price range.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;437372]how big are you? i had a 325, and at 6'2", that car was way too small for a bigger guy.[/QUOTE]

I'm about 5'10" 250.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;437660]Those numbers are a little unfair, because there is NOTHING outside of El Paso, while normal big cities have suburbs which means more people to inflate the numbers. [/QUOTE]

I pretty much totally disagree with you. Combined with Juarez, Mexico, the metropolitan area forms the largest population center on any international border in the world. About 2.2 million live in the area, with 700,000 residents in El Paso.

El Paso looks dirty and is poor, so I think it gets a bad rap. But that doesn't mean that it's riddled with crime.

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[QUOTE=NM Redskin;437732]I pretty much totally disagree with you. Combined with Juarez, Mexico, the metropolitan area forms the largest population center on any international border in the world. About 2.2 million live in the area, with 700,000 residents in El Paso.

El Paso looks dirty and is poor, so I think it gets a bad rap. But that doesn't mean that it's riddled with crime.[/QUOTE]

According the 2006 US Census, El Paso had 609,415 residents.
[url=http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/us-cities-largest-2007.html]City Mayors: Largest US cities 2007[/url]
you have to scroll down a little, but the top cities are listed.
Keep in mind those are counted as ONLY those that live within those city limits. For instance, Boston does not count Cambridge, or DC does not count Arlington.
You might be thinking of El Paso COUNTY that has 700,000 or so population, and seeing the size of El Paso county makes you realize how few people are there outside of the city.

I agree with you about Juarez making the area very populated, but you are talking about another country, and with the passports that are required to travel back and forth, that cuts down random visits.
Also, if an illegal alien, or non US resident makes a criminal act, it doesn't go against El Paso, it will go against his own country. I was told that by someone who worked in those statistics, not sure if it's accurate, but it makes sense.

Here is a map of El Paso, and people can see for themselves that it's in the middle of nowhere:
[url=http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=el+paso&state=tx&zipcode=]Map of El Paso, TX by MapQuest[/url]

I know we are going to disagree. But there is an actual reason El Paso has a bad rap, and it's not unjustified.
Again I ask you, why do SOOOO many houses have bars on the windows?

By the way, are you a hunter?

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[quote=cpayne5;437412]No, Acura to Honda is not equal to BMW to VW. Honda and Acura have the same parent companies, while BMW and VW have different parent companies. A correct correlation would be Acura is to Honda what Audi is to VW.[/quote]

What I mean is that German cars are German .. VW, Auid, BMW..etc... it's all the same.

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;437808]What I mean is that German cars are German .. VW, Auid, BMW..etc... it's all the same.[/QUOTE]

Not to cause a stir, but does that mean, Chevy / Ford / Dodge / Cadillac / Pontiac / Buick etc are all the same too??

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[quote=jsarno;437821]Not to cause a stir, but does that mean, Chevy / Ford / Dodge / Cadillac / Pontiac / Buick etc are all the same too??[/quote]

German cars are are very similar in parts, as are the ones above. When it comes to fixing them (German cars) it's just not that different between VW, Audi, BMW..etc.

.. and you love to cause a stir, don't kid yourself.

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;437855]German cars are are very similar in parts, as are the ones above. When it comes to fixing them (German cars) it's just not that different between VW, Audi, BMW..etc.

.. and you love to cause a stir, don't kid yourself.[/QUOTE]

LOL...that's not true. I just happen to cause a stir because I don't live (and never did live) in the same areas as a lot of people here. So our views are different.

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BTW- after talking to salesmen, it looks as if in order to get what I want, it will take 3 months to get it ordered / delivered. That wasn't the deal breaker...the deal breaker was when they said that I wouldn't get what I deserved for my trade cause they have to "estimate" what my trade will be worth in 3 months.
I talked to my wife, and we decided to keep the truck and more than likely in a year or two (after the truck is paid off) I will make a solid run at a Corvette.

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ZR1 will be hitting the showrooms soon, jsarno. ;)

hess - with all due respect, it's not all the same.

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;437855]German cars are are very similar in parts, as are the ones above. When it comes to fixing them (German cars) it's just not that different between VW, Audi, BMW..etc.

.. and you love to cause a stir, don't kid yourself.[/QUOTE]

What great advice. I wish I had known that when I was fixing up my 540i. I could've just put a VW clutch in there and paid half as much!

:doh:

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[quote=jsarno;437662]Holy crap dude, that car STARTS at 56k doesn't it? If I had that kind of money, I'd be driving a vette.
Nice car, that's for sure, but that's waaaaay out of my price range.[/quote]

1. I don't like Vetts (the newer designs do not impress me).
2. I am looking for Speed, luxury, 4 doors, and an automatic.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;437994]1. I don't like Vetts (the newer designs do not impress me).[/quote]

I think it's either you love em or leave em...I LOVE em. I am a Vette fanatic. The new designs are the best IMO. I always hated the flip up headlights and these new headlights are more Ferrari-esc.

[quote]2. I am looking for Speed, luxury, 4 doors, and an automatic.[/QUOTE]

Vette:
Speed - check
Luxury - check (the new ones are LOADED)
4 doors - no
automatic - could be, but that would be a sin.

I understand you'd be looking more to a family car. I do not need to do that. A vette works for me. Might as well chase the dream huh?

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;437878]ZR1 will be hitting the showrooms soon, jsarno. ;)[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah...fully aware. 600 horsepower and a top speed of over 200!!!!
Here is a link:
[url=http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/zr1/?seo=goo_|_2008_Chevy_Retention_|_IMG_Chevy_Corvette_ZR1_|_Chevrolet_Corvette_ZR1_|_chevrolet_corvette_zr1]Chevrolet | 2009 Chevy Corvette ZR1 Sport Convertible[/url]

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[quote=jsarno;438211]I think it's either you love em or leave em...I LOVE em. I am a Vette fanatic. The new designs are the best IMO. I always hated the flip up headlights and these new headlights are more Ferrari-esc.



Vette:
Speed - check
Luxury - check (the new ones are LOADED)
4 doors - no
automatic - could be, but that would be a sin.

I understand you'd be looking more to a family car. I do not need to do that. A vette works for me. Might as well chase the dream huh?[/quote]

You have to live for something.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;438234]You have to live for something.[/QUOTE]

Well, good luck...I hope you get what you want.

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[quote=jsarno;438302]Well, good luck...I hope you get what you want.[/quote]


Me too. Just to clarify things a bit though. I do not particularly like automatics. The car I have now is a stick and I love it to death. The only reason that I am looking for an automatic is because of the heavy traffic. I am sick of fighting with a stick in the stop and go traffic. That is why I am looking for some luxury as well. Recaro seats just arent enough of a creature comfort anymore. In short my body is aging beyond the race car thing. This does not change my desire to drive fast. I just want something more comfortable to do it in.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;438767]Me too. Just to clarify things a bit though. I do not particularly like automatics. The car I have now is a stick and I love it to death. The only reason that I am looking for an automatic is because of the heavy traffic. I am sick of fighting with a stick in the stop and go traffic. That is why I am looking for some luxury as well. Recaro seats just arent enough of a creature comfort anymore. In short my body is aging beyond the race car thing. This does not change my desire to drive fast. I just want something more comfortable to do it in.[/QUOTE]

I completely understand, however, I would emplore you to check out a new corvette. The luxury of the car is far underrated. Not saying you should get one due to the fact that you have a mini zoo over there, but they aren't grandpa's race car anymore. The Corvette has made huge strides in becoming a luxury sports car, and they succeeded in my opinion.

The reasons you mentioned in this post and others is why I was looking at a BMW. However, I do not have the traffic out here so the stick issue is a nonissue with me. Traffic is one of the things I miss the least about Boston.

How interested are you in the Lexus? (realistically)

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[quote=jsarno;438850]I completely understand, however, I would emplore you to check out a new corvette. The luxury of the car is far underrated. Not saying you should get one due to the fact that you have a mini zoo over there, but they aren't grandpa's race car anymore. The Corvette has made huge strides in becoming a luxury sports car, and they succeeded in my opinion.

The reasons you mentioned in this post and others is why I was looking at a BMW. However, I do not have the traffic out here so the stick issue is a nonissue with me. Traffic is one of the things I miss the least about Boston.

How interested are you in the Lexus? (realistically)[/quote]

I will probably buy it within a year or 2. If not the Lexus, then something very similar.

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I think I have reversed my thinking, cause this car caught my eye more so than any car in recent years:
[url=http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5.html]Audi of America > See All Models > Audi A5/S5[/url]

MSRP comes to a lofty 48k after it's fully loaded (manual of course, and in deep blue sea pearl), but after my trade, and negotiations I should be financing around 35 or 36 which is quite affordable.

What do you think of the A5?

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[quote=jsarno;440881]I think I have reversed my thinking, cause this car caught my eye more so than any car in recent years:
[URL="http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A5.html"]Audi of America > See All Models > Audi A5/S5[/URL]

MSRP comes to a lofty 48k after it's fully loaded (manual of course, and in deep blue sea pearl), but after my trade, and negotiations I should be financing around 35 or 36 which is quite affordable.

What do you think of the A5?[/quote]

Audis have [URL="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=audi+electrical+problems&btnG=Search"]electrical problems[/URL]. For that kind of money I would consider Infinity M.

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I've never spent more than $16K on a car and I don't intend to ever spend more than $20K (in inflation adjusted dollars) on a car no matter what my salary may be. My current vehicle is a 98 Ford Explorer, has 95K miles on it, and I intend to drive it until it dies. I just can't justify spending a lot of money on a car. But to each his own. The Audi A5 certainly looks nice.

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[QUOTE=saden1;440908]Audis have [URL="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=audi+electrical+problems&btnG=Search"]electrical problems[/URL]. For that kind of money I would consider Infinity M.[/QUOTE]

Damn it! Are there any cars out there that don't have issues?
Thanks for the link.

One of the reasons I turned my head to an Audi is because it just screamed to me "this is THE car." Have you ever just had that feeling where you saw something and said "OOOOOOOHHHHH" and you had to have it? That's what happened when I saw the A5.
Another was the fact that I had several friends and friends of friends that told me that Mercedes and BMW think their "shit don't stink." In other words, while there were no consistant issues, whenever they had issues they wouldn't seem to care and customer service lacked. But I heard that Audi tries VERY hard to please their customers.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;440923]I've never spent more than $16K on a car and I don't intend to ever spend more than $20K (in inflation adjusted dollars) on a car no matter what my salary may be. My current vehicle is a 98 Ford Explorer, has 95K miles on it, and I intend to drive it until it dies. I just can't justify spending a lot of money on a car. But to each his own. The Audi A5 certainly looks nice.[/QUOTE]

To each his own. I can certainly see why people would do that. I just vowed it would no longer be me.

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[quote=jsarno;440924]Damn it! Are there any cars out there that don't have issues?
Thanks for the link.

One of the reasons I turned my head to an Audi is because it just screamed to me "this is THE car." Have you ever just had that feeling where you saw something and said "OOOOOOOHHHHH" and you had to have it? That's what happened when I saw the A5.
Another was the fact that I had several friends and friends of friends that told me that Mercedes and BMW think their "shit don't stink." In other words, while there were no consistant issues, whenever they had issues they wouldn't seem to care and customer service lacked. But I heard that Audi tries VERY hard to please their customers.[/quote]

I know what you mean, I suppose it's all about what really looks nice to you. If it speaks to you then that's your car, go get her.

I'm an overall kind of guy, I evaluate everything with a little more emphasis on the interior and the ride. I test drove the Infinite M and that thing is a beast. As for BMW and Mercedes you're preaching to [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7S_eCA-Uw"]the choir[/URL] (watch the end).

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[QUOTE=saden1;440930]I know what you mean, I suppose it's all about what really looks nice to you. If it speaks to you then that's your car, go get her.

I'm an overall kind of guy, I evaluate everything with a little more emphasis on the interior and the ride. I test drove the Infinite M and that thing is a beast. As for BMW and Mercedes you're preaching to [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7S_eCA-Uw"]the choir[/URL] (watch the end).[/QUOTE]

I must have missed something cause I didn't see anything at the end that referred to BMW or Mercedes other than an opinionated comment about german engineering...nor did I hear anything about customer service. Did I miss something?

Those are nice cars, no doubt about it. They are a little too pricey for me after all the extras.
The Audi is actually too pricey for me too. I once said I would never consider a car over 40k unless it was the vette, but I really like the Audi. With every bell and whistle (manual though) the MSRP comes to 48,000...a little better than the Infiniti. That is definitely a great car, but I think I would have gone with the Infiniti G-37 if I did go Infiniti.

By the way here is a good look at the A5:
[yt]bNw5MVVNHb0[/yt]

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Ive been doing a lot of research on the 1 series. I think I like the look of it more than the 3 series. My heart lies with the M3...one of these days Ill get a new M3. I always think about it but its so hard to spend 60k on a car in good conscience... I thought about getting the 1 series instead of the M3. I figure the motor is the same horsepower as the old M3...and id be saving a ton of money...hell about half

Im very jealous about your mortgage payment. I live in North Jersey. I spend more per month in taxes on my house then you do for the payment. If I lived where you lived id already have my M3!!! hehe

And I saw you said you child died a few years back. If you ever posted that on here I missed it. Im sorry for your loss.

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[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;441055]Ive been doing a lot of research on the 1 series. I think I like the look of it more than the 3 series. My heart lies with the M3...one of these days Ill get a new M3. I always think about it but its so hard to spend 60k on a car in good conscience... I thought about getting the 1 series instead of the M3. I figure the motor is the same horsepower as the old M3...and id be saving a ton of money...hell about half[/quote]

If I had 60k to spend, I'd get a vette.
My good friend has an M3 convertible. White with a black top. That thing is FAST, but in the city it drives like poo. On the highway it opens up and it's quite a machine.

[quote]Im very jealous about your mortgage payment. I live in North Jersey. I spend more per month in taxes on my house then you do for the payment. If I lived where you lived id already have my M3!!! hehe[/quote]

Seriously???? You spend around 6k a year in TAXES? I'm almost afraid to tell you my taxes, but I will anyway...I pay around 500 a year. That's right, $500 a year.

[quote]And I saw you said you child died a few years back. If you ever posted that on here I missed it. Im sorry for your loss.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man. Crap happens, and there is nothing you can do. You gotta move on. No one ever said life was fair.

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Another Interesting Review:
[url=http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7812&page=2]Test-Drove the M3 and 135i - Page 2 - BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (M1 / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)[/url]

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[quote=jsarno;440924]Damn it! Are there any cars out there that don't have issues?
Thanks for the link.

One of the reasons I turned my head to an Audi is because it just screamed to me "this is THE car." Have you ever just had that feeling where you saw something and said "OOOOOOOHHHHH" and you had to have it? That's what happened when I saw the A5.
Another was the fact that I had several friends and friends of friends that told me that Mercedes and BMW think their "shit don't stink." In other words, while there were no consistant issues, whenever they had issues they wouldn't seem to care and customer service lacked. But I heard that Audi tries VERY hard to please their customers.[/quote]

My sister has an Audi and loves it. Never had one problem with it.