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[QUOTE=smoot27;456512]I know but how many times JC got sack an game?. Plus i don't blaim Rogers when you have that guy Dware and Ellis to pressure the hell out of you. And not to mention Cowboys had the 3nd best sack stats in the NFL.

Plus i saw JC against the Lions and Eagles he did good how ever this is going to be an new scheme. He did good against the Lions cause the Lions sucked . He did good against the Eagles because Eagles didn't have an pass rush at all (intill the end when we did the Redskins classic*collapsed*).


I like JC too but i had an nightmare that he'll be gone in two years. I had the same dream when Chad could be coming and the dream when we won 13-14 against Dallas. Now that dream is back i think somethings not right here.


PS: He did great against the Lions no doubt, how ever the Dallas game was good too i think Rogers showed how more dangerous he could be.[/QUOTE]

I admire your resilience, especially considering English is not your first language. I don't even know if it's your second language actually.

Still, wait you dreamt we'd beat Dallas 14-13 on MNF??

Ok anyway, you do know that Campbell played in the WCO in college right? Granted, I know it's not exactly the same but it's not an extreme difference from college to the pros.

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wow... this thread dived down the twathole pretty quick :/

oh well.

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I was going to start this thread but figured I'd be ridiculed for it{and get neg rep points,lol}I'm not sold on J.C. but i dont think Favre is the right fit for us,we've got to give Jason his chance.If this was 2 yrs ago,maybe even a yr ago I would say go for it.Favre is being accused of being selfish,which he kind of is,but I dont blame him one bit.I'm sure its hard when you reach his age and the things he's accomplished to try and decide what to do.I think he was feeling pressure from the Pack to retire and after thinking about he did,we do it all the time,so what.The Pack look to me like theyre ready to move on,they need to cut him loose or welcome him back with open arms and give him the starting job till he proves he cant cut it anymore.He had a great yr last yr,he's better than 90 percent of the qb's in the league,IMO

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[QUOTE=smoot27;456512]I know but how many times JC got sack an game?. Plus i don't blaim Rogers when you have that guy Dware and Ellis to pressure the hell out of you. And not to mention Cowboys had the [B]3nd[/B] best sack stats in the NFL.

Plus i saw JC against the Lions and Eagles he did good how ever this is going to be an new scheme. He did good against the Lions cause the Lions sucked . He did good against the Eagles because Eagles didn't have an pass rush at all (intill the end when we did the Redskins classic*collapsed*).


I like JC too but i had an nightmare that he'll be gone in two years. I had the same dream when Chad could be coming and the dream when we won 13-14 against Dallas. Now that dream is back i think somethings not right here.


PS: He did great against the Lions no doubt, how ever the Dallas game was good too i think Rogers showed how more dangerous he could be.[/QUOTE]

Come on, this guy is obviously a troll.

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[quote=SmootSmack;456504]You're making a comparison based on one game?

No offense, but while I don't agree with the notion of bringing Favre here, [B]I've heard some mildly convincing arguments[/B]. Your argument of Favre will make JC a better QB because look what he did with Rodgers is really, really....um, odd.[/quote]

You have?? I'd like to hear them.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;456531]You have?? I'd like to hear them.[/QUOTE]

Damn you and your need for evidence!!

I don't know, I kind of just threw that line in there

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[quote=SmootSmack;456549]Damn you and your need for evidence!!

I don't know, I kind of just threw that line in there[/quote]

LOL!

By the way, I like the tag line right under your username. It's an important distinction to make!

Luckily your record of posting great stuff precedes you.

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I'm not going to even bother trying to address the last few pages of garbage. God bless those of you that tried to play along.

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[quote=smoot27;456476]Amen.

Thats the thing i'm trying to say also, Zorn likes JC but also likes Brennan 2 X's better. However Zorn does wan't to find JC to stay here and Favre make JC that ultamate weapon. If not JC than Favre and Zorn can work on Brennan for sure.

I don't want to sound like an peice of crap but JC is 26 now and Brannan could probably out play JC and Brannan is 24 years younger.

Back to my point have JC benched for one year and maybe actully have an pro-bowl year cause again Zorn said he is gonna run the ball"Alot" which means the passing is still not close to being great. While we get Favre it could speed things up and teach JC alot i mean alot say this would ruin JC progress but how? JC would be 27 while Romo was on bench for 2 years and ended up an pro-bowler.

I say Yes to Favre for one year, i mean to be honest our O sounds bad (besides Portis) every time an interview with Zorn he always saids" the D stop the skins all the time in the goal line and int alot of passes. I mean is our O gonna be good? or is the D just ruthless.[/quote]
Man, your all over the place in this thread and I'm not sure where your getting all this information. The only thing I have heard Zorn say about the running game is that they would keep allot of our current plays and also keep the terms the same (I believe its a number system for the call on running scheme to be used which will not change). I also don't thank that he has commented on our performance last year like you stated on goal line play because that would be seen as attacking Gibbs as a coach. He might have said something like "we are working on some different looks on the goal line" but not pin pointing it out as you stat.

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I don't have much to add to this thread, but there's a bunch of great videos of the Redskins cheerleader tryouts on comcastsportsnet.com. They're a good break for those of you who are sick of the Favre talk. Check it out.

Go Skins!

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[quote=dcsportsfan1;456567]I don't have much to add to this thread, but there's a bunch of great videos of the Redskins cheerleader tryouts on comcastsportsnet.com. They're a good break for those of you who are sick of the Favre talk. Check it out.

Go Skins![/quote]

I just read through all the posts, cheerleader tryouts are sounding very refreshing about now!

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This was a good thread to start given the lack of skins news & the fact that there are some internet media/bloggers throwing out the idea that the danny will go after Farve. Like Matty said, R. Tandler presents a decent case in that article, but my gut tells me the Skins will leave this one alone. I certainly hope they do.

Farve, despite a great year in 07, still ended w/one of his ill advised int's. Of course JC ended a few games last year w/picks, but he's learning. Farve still plays w/the gun slinging mentality. At some point in time he will revert to his form of a few years back (not sure which years) when he was throwing picks left and right.

He surprised me, and a lot of people, w/how well he played last year, but let's not assume he's going to be able to match that again. I think Rodgers could probably beat him out in camp.

Let JC develop & be our qb of the future!

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HELL NO! Brett Farve is like an over aged punch drunk boxer that doesn't know when to quit. He has to be totally humiliated in the ring, or on the field in Farve's case, to hang up the gloves. It's embarrassing to watch an old fighter get beat up by a younger, less talented foe. There is an age limit on professional sports and Farve has reached it for a quarterback.

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Based on last year I don't see how Favre is over the hill. Bottom line is the guy can still play.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;456577]HELL NO! Brett Farve is like an [B]over aged punch drunk boxer[/B] that doesn't know when to quit. He has to be totally humiliated in the ring, or on the field in Farve's case, to hang up the gloves. It's embarrassing to watch an old fighter get beat up by a younger, less talented foe. There is an age limit on professional sports and Farve has reached it for a quarterback.[/quote]

good analogy, only he's got his health. That's reason enough to quit at 38. One hit can change your life.

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[quote=Mattyk72;456588]Based on last year I don't see how Favre is over the hill. Bottom line is the guy can still play.[/quote]

Over the hill isn't accurate, but a lot of athletes, if not most, have the opposite of the break out year when things start to diminish. He looked older a few years ago to me, and I'm amazed at his durability, but at any point he could slide quickly.

My dad always said that some qb's decline in their 30s because their eyesight changes. I think that happened to Farve in his mid 30s & his poor depth perception made a lot of throws late. He appears to have played through that & adjusted, but on any given day he's prone to thinking his arm strength can get the ball into places it can't. When we start to see more of that, A. Rodgers deserves a chance to play.

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Let's not kid ourselves, Favre would give the Packers a shot at the Super Bowl, Rodgers probably won't give them that same shot. Just saying. I'm glad I'm not a Packers fan because I would be very torn on this issue.

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[quote=Mattyk72;456608]Let's not kid ourselves, Favre would give the Packers a shot at the Super Bowl, Rodgers probably won't give them that same shot. Just saying. I'm glad I'm not a Packers fan because I would be very torn on this issue.[/quote]

Good point, guess I've been focused on what the pack needs to do for its long term future more than just this year, considering the team made it to the nfc championship last year.

Apparently though (at least for now), the Packers & T. Thompson don't agree, since they've told him he's the backup.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;456624][B]Good point, guess I've been focused on what the pack needs to do for its long term future more than just this year, considering the team made it to the nfc championship last year.[/B]

Apparently though (at least for now), the Packers & T. Thompson don't agree, since they've told him he's the backup.[/QUOTE]

That's the rub. Who gives you your best chance to win now? IMO, it's Brett Favre. I don't think the Skins should pursue him, but I think that he should be the Packers starter if he decides he's going to play for them.

A Packer fan called into Sirius and made a good analogy: "If you have a winning ticket and another one that looks like a winner, which one do you play?" I think that pretty much tells the tale in the Favre vs. Rogers debate.

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[quote=freddyg12;456624]Good point, guess I've been focused on what the pack needs to do for its long term future more than just this year, considering the team made it to the nfc championship last year.

[B]Apparently though (at least for now), the Packers & T. Thompson don't agree, since they've told him he's the backup[/B].[/quote]

They can say that all they want, I think the Packers are hoping that Favre will stay retire and won't show for camp. There is NO WAY they want him showing up to camp even as the backup. Can you imagine the pressure on Rodgers with Favre looking over his shoulder, the potential divide in the locker room and amongst the fans?? If push comes to shove Favre is going to win this battle.

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personally i think that green bay is stupid if they DON'T start favre.they were 1 pick (interception)away last year from being in the superbowl.if he's(favre)in camp,he's my starter no matter what.it's not gonna do anything but make rodgers a better player to watch favre work his magic for another season.

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;456655]personally i think that green bay is stupid if they DON'T start favre.they were 1 pick (interception)away last year from being in the superbowl.if he's(favre)in camp,he's my starter no matter what.it's not gonna do anything but make rodgers a better player to watch favre work his magic for another season.[/quote]

It's definitely a tough decision to have to make, but in the end I also feel that if they want to make a serious run at the Super Bowl, they have to start Favre. Rodgers can either deal with it and wait some more, or they have Brohm to develop if Rodgers jets next year.

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rodgers would be an idiot if he leaves.do'nt you think so matty?he knows the offense,and unless he wants to end up a career backup like todd collins has 90%of his
career,he'll stay.he has a great future ahead of him if he is patient and man enough to wait.

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I still can't believe people are talking about this. What team wants to deal with Farve and all his damn drama?? GB has had no trade offers. If someone wanted him that bad then there would be at least one offer. Yes he played well last year but the chances of him playing that well again after sitting on his ass all off season and not working with any NFL wr's is slim. We're not talking about Manning or Brady.

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;456663]rodgers would be an idiot if he leaves.do'nt you think so matty?he knows the offense,and unless he wants to end up a career backup like todd collins has 90%of his
career,he'll stay.he has a great future ahead of him if he is patient and man enough to wait.[/quote]

What if Favre tears it up and decides he wants to play out his contract which would be another two years beyond this year. Rodgers would be facing the possibility of not starting until his 7th year... he would be crazy to stay in GB if that was the case.

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Let's trade Derrick Frost for him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;456667]What if Favre tears it up and decides he wants to play out his contract which would be another two years behind this year. Rodgers would be facing the possibility of not starting until his 7th year... he would be crazy to stay in GB if that was the case.[/quote]

you are 100%correct.he'd be sol if that happens.if favre stays and rodgers leaves,seattle would be a great place to go since holmgren is gone after next year.would'nt you be surprised now if favre did'nt come back after all the fuss he's made?can you imagine the scene if the gods of football are willing,and favre signs with the vikings?on the day he is supposed to have his number retired,he's the starting qb for the MINNESOTA VIKINGS?????
why can't shit like this happen in dallas,ny,or philly?

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[quote=skinsfan69;456665]I still can't believe people are talking about this. What team wants to deal with Farve and all his damn drama?? GB has had no trade offers. If someone wanted him that bad then there would be at least one offer. Yes he played well last year but the chances of him playing that well again after sitting on his ass all off season and not working with any NFL wr's is slim. We're not talking about Manning or Brady.[/quote]

Who says he was sitting on his ass all offseason? Somehow I doubt that he didn't keep himself in good shape. A few weeks of camp and he would be ready to go.

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The Packers should definitely trade Favre, they can't let him back.

Two words...Madden Curse

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;456655]personally i think that green bay is stupid if they DON'T start favre.they were 1 pick (interception)away last year from being in the superbowl.if he's(favre)in camp,he's my starter no matter what.it's not gonna do anything but make rodgers a better player to watch favre work his magic for another season.[/quote]
I thought that at first but after I heard he decided to play again back in Feb or March (not sure of what month) then decided to stay retired again is not helping his cause. What happens if he gets into camp and then decides to retire again? With the way he has been going back and forth I think the coaches have made the right decision.

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Yeah he's gone back and forth but I really doubt he would show up for camp and then decide to retire again.

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[quote=Mattyk72;456677]Who says he was sitting on his ass all offseason? Somehow I doubt that he didn't keep himself in good shape. A few weeks of camp and he would be ready to go.[/quote]

Even if he is in shape this back and forth crap wears thin on everyone and it's worn thin on the Packers. Plus what team wants to deal with all this? NFL teams want a QB that they can depend on and you can't depend on Farve. Classic case of a guy that didn't prepare for life after football. He just doesn't know what to do with himself.

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You can count on Favre where it counts and that's on the field. If I'm a GM with a playoff team and I need a QB, I'm looking at Favre no doubt.

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[quote=skinsfan69;456721]Even if he is in shape this back and forth crap wears thin on everyone and it's worn thin on the Packers. Plus what team wants to deal with all this? NFL teams want a QB that they can depend on and you can't depend on Farve. Classic case of a guy that didn't prepare for life after football. He just doesn't know what to do with himself.[/quote]

I get the same impression. He'd even said in interviews this spring that he was doing nothing. He also asked mccarthy if he could be an asst. coach.

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[B]and you can't depend on Farve.[/B]

here is a man who has never missed a start since he's been a starting qb in the league,and you say he is not dependable?i think there are 4 certain things in life,death,
taxes,sleep,and bret favre starting at qb no matter what his physical condition is.

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;456732][B]and you can't depend on Farve.[/B]

here is a man who has never missed a start since he's been a starting qb in the league,and you say he is not dependable?i think there are 4 certain things in life,death,
taxes,sleep,and bret favre starting at qb no matter what his physical condition is.[/quote]

You're missing my point. What team in the NFL is going to want to do a one year or bust type of deal when they've already put all the work towards getting the current starter ready? So far no one. And that includes us. That's one of the reasons GB doesn't want him back. Rogers has been there all off season busting his ass and they think he's ready to become an NFL starter.

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[quote=Mattyk72;456722]You can count on Favre where it counts and that's on the field. If I'm a GM with a playoff team and I need a QB, I'm looking at Favre no doubt.[/quote]

What playoff team would want him? TB? He's not going to push them over the top cause they're not good enough to begin with. So what other playoff team would want him?

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All Farve would do is set us back one more year. I feel this is the year we find out if JC has what it takes to start in the NFL. If he does then we can extend his contract if not then we need to start looking for that guy. Farve is a one year deal and if JC was just picked in the draft and we needed someone to fill in for a year or two then I'd be real happy to see us go after him but its just not the case.

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No. I like the fact that our #1 and #3 QBs are young, and Zorn will be teaching them how to play the WCO from the ground up. I can't imagine Zorn teaching Favre anything at this point.

I'm really excited about this offense after having suffered through numerous losses when we stopped trying to score with a lead in the 2nd half. If Zorn is anything, I expect him to be aggressive.

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No,no....no! Anyone remember how Johnny U. or Willie Joe finished their careers?That was a sin...Brett needs to go and coach a high school team and move on with his life.:soapbox: