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[quote=sandtrapjack;477411]Ok, that anthem singer DESERVED that boo! It was a nauseating rendition.[/quote]

That was horrible. She butchered the song.

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[quote=Mattyk72;477439]That was horrible. She butchered the song.[/quote]


i missed it.was it as bad as roseanne and carl lewis a few years back???

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[quote=johnerotten;477447]i missed it.was it as bad as roseanne and carl lewis a few years back???[/quote]
No she just tried to do to much with her voice and hit a few flat notes and also butchered the national anthem.

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[quote=johnerotten;477447]i missed it.was it as bad as roseanne and carl lewis a few years back???[/quote]

Instead of just singing the damn song she tried to turn it into a top 40 pop song. Plus she was very flat on a few notes and at the end she had no range to try to go where she did. It was pretty bad. Granted that's a very hard song to do but I think her problem was she tried to bite off more than she could chew.

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[QUOTE] sucks to be an Eagle fan today. [/QUOTE]

dude,when DOESNT IT suck to be an eagles fan?most cowboy fans have sense and pride,eagle fans are a$$holes on their best days! remember the vet? i would have felt safer going into downtown baghdad before i returned there.

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Here was last night's:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPo4vKoPd8Y]YouTube - DeSean Jackson Rookie Mistake vs Dallas Cowboys (9-15-08) *HQ*[/url]

At 0:45 is a great angle is his boneheadedness.


I love the one comment "He's so lucky that the Cowboys were twice as stupid as he was to not jump on the ball."

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[quote=Buster;477464]Here was last night's:

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPo4vKoPd8Y"]YouTube - DeSean Jackson Rookie Mistake vs Dallas Cowboys (9-15-08) *HQ*[/URL]

At 0:45 is a great angle is his boneheadedness.


I love the one comment "He's so lucky that the Cowboys were twice as stupid as he was to not jump on the ball."[/quote]

Actually, if you watch the replay Adam Jones turned out of the end zone and was running to recover the "fumble" but the ref blew the whistle indicating the play was over and signaled touchdown. Jones was the one who pleaded with the coach to initiate the challenge.

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the nfl clearly is gonna have to revisit the blown whistle dead instances in the off season. when the ref screws up like that,there has to be a way to attempt to make it halfway fair,and that just does'nt.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;477470]Actually, if you watch the replay Adam Jones turned out of the end zone and was running to recover the "fumble" but the ref blew the whistle indicating the play was over and signaled touchdown. Jones was the one who pleaded with the coach to initiate the challenge.[/quote]

Absolutely correct. Only problem was the ref pulled an Ed Hochuli and blew the wistle prematurely.
Although in all fairness, no ref ever expects to see something that stupid. It was a knee jerk reaction probably.

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he's a really good ref too.he messes up 1 time,and he gets shit on forever.i saw those guys last night miss at least 2 holding calls,2 face mask calls,not to mention the guy spiking the ball early call.they blew that play dead too.ray charles can call better games than most of those refs,and he's been dead two years on top of being blind while hee was alive!!!!

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[quote=johnerotten;477596]he's a really good ref too.he messes up 1 time,and he gets shit on forever.i saw those guys last night miss at least 2 holding calls,2 face mask calls,not to mention the guy spiking the ball early call.they blew that play dead too.ray charles can call better games than most of those refs,and he's been dead two years on top of being blind while hee was alive!!!![/quote]

I agree...he is a good ref. I am getting a little annoyed about the talk (speculation) that he could be released at the end of the year. I understand the grading system, and the "possibility" of him not doing the playoffs this year, but don't get rid of the man due to one mistake. That's stupid. I hope the NFL is not that dumb.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;476650]
N.O vs Was offensive show like I said a lot of back and forward N.O dominated almost the whole game, lost the lead, took it back, lost it again to take it back and lost it and never took it back with 3 minutes left great exiting game.
[/quote]

what the hell u talking about willis,NO dominated the game? we almost doubled their yardage,led in time of posession by almost 10 minutes,and they had a punt return for a td,how is that dominating the whole game?

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LOL there was no domination by the Saints, we out gained them in yardage 455-250.

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reggie bush dominated on drawing stupid penalties!

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[quote=johnerotten;477596]he's a really good ref too.he messes up 1 time,and he gets shit on forever.i saw those guys last night miss at least 2 holding calls,2 face mask calls,not to mention the guy spiking the ball early call.they blew that play dead too.ray charles can call better games than most of those refs,and he's been dead two years on top of being blind while hee was alive!!!![/quote]

apparently this isnt the only time he's messed up

JERRY JONES SAY HOCHULI IS “HIGHLY CRITICIZED”
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2008, 9:36 p.m.
Although the general action in media and fan circles seems to be that referee Ed Hochuli deserves a break despite his badly blown call in Sunday’s game between the Chargers and the Broncos, our own MDS has pointed out that one of the league’s most influential owners is singing a different tune.

“That particular official gets a lot of criticism,” Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said.

Ouch.

“He’s a highly criticized official in the NFL.”

Double ouch.

If Hochuli has that reputation in league circles, that reputation has never made its way outside of league circles. Until now.

But don’t look for Jones to be fined for his comments. As NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us on Monday, fines are imposed only when criticizes the integrity of officiating. In this case, Jones is simply saying that Hochuli gets criticized a lot.

In other words, Jones isn’t questioning Hochuli’s integrity — he’s criticizing his ability.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;477470]Actually, if you watch the replay Adam Jones turned out of the end zone and was running to recover the "fumble" but the ref blew the whistle indicating the play was over and signaled touchdown. Jones was the one who pleaded with the coach to initiate the challenge.[/quote]

He better be careful, his parole officer is probably required to attend all games to keep an eye on him.

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;477395]and can westbrook stay healthy?....that team wins and loses with the health of mcnabb and westbrook.[/quote]


bith statements are true that team it's totally linked to the health of their QB and RB as good as they're as far as they'll go

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came on here to harp about the poor officiating weve been witnessing so far but you all are already on top of it.

Dboyz did you watch the game or are you just hatin? im starting to think you need to shove off to a cowboys forum . . take a lesson from sandtrap, as a fan poster of the boys you need to post intelligent and not biased against the skins just to try and bash us.

go skins!

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[quote=johnerotten;477596]he's a really good ref too.he messes up 1 time,and he gets shit on forever.i saw those guys last night miss at least 2 holding calls,2 face mask calls,not to mention the guy spiking the ball early call.they blew that play dead too.ray charles can call better games than most of those refs,and he's been dead two years on top of being blind while hee was alive!!!![/quote]

There were to many Blown calls in that game

Eagles
A face Mask on Westbrook early on the game huge facemask

Dallas
The Pass Int call was bull the eagles player hold henry Jersey and pulled him to him, Henry never touched the guy it was a great play by the Eagles player to confuse the Ref but still a blown call.

A holding call on Mike Jenkis in Westbrook TD the ref was Right there and he didn't call it the same ref had 2 blocks in the back one in a kick return and another in a big run by westbrook that he didn't call.

In the 2 facemask called on Westbrook he was also grabbing and pulling the defenders facemask they're supposed to call those now and still they don't do.

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[quote=over the mountain;477779]came on here to harp about the poor officiating weve been witnessing so far but you all are already on top of it.

Dboyz did you watch the game or are you just hatin? im starting to think you need to shove off to a cowboys forum . . take a lesson from sandtrap, as a fan poster of the boys you need to post intelligent and not biased against the skins just to try and bash us.

go skins![/quote]

man I'm not bashing and yes I watched the whole game always do yes Washington had more yards and had better plays but N.O controled the score for most of the game that's what I tried to say they had the lead for almost the whole second half.

It was a great game and I've giving your team it props in many threads since the game happened it was a very exiting game and like I said Moss showed the player he used to have and the offense look explosive like it should with so many offensive weapons.

The defense got better as the game passed and dominated the whole 4th quarter and it's the big reason you won that game they played top level when you needed.

I think I'm a very fair poster here and have proved it for many years

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^^ yeah im sorry Dboyz, again i put my foot in my mouth. you are a good poster, just over reacted to your assesment that the saints dominated us. its not my job to say who can and cant post or what their posts should say, its just hard to not let the rivalry cloud my posts sometimes. again sorry, i take skins football way to serious sometimes and am still alil heated from a verbal match with a boys fan that almost turned voilent last week. lol good thing off duty cops who wear boys gear from head to toe dont overreact and try to fight you when you give them the double thumbs down!! (sarcasm, off duty cop in all boys gear did try to fight me cuz i gave him thumbs down)

go skins!

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yeah don't worry man I think most of all blogger take football in general a little to serious we love the game, love our teams and love to defend our colors. I try to be unbiased in my post in general because I love football more than the Cowboys and I always want to see the great teams and great games.

For me this was one of the best weekends of football I've ever seen I usually see 6 games at once and this week you should had seen me screaming at all 6 TV's so many great games people in the sportsbook didn't knew who I was rooting for and I was man I'm just enjoying some freaking good games my team doesn't even play today and shit.(and making money of them at the same time)

Love football, love watching it, reading about it, study it, played my whole life can't stop now

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[quote=D'BOYZ;477889]yeah don't worry man I think most of all blogger take football in general a little to serious we love the game, love our teams and love to defend our colors. I try to be unbiased in my post in general because I love football more than the Cowboys and I always want to see the great teams and great games.

For me this was one of the best weekends of football I've ever seen I usually see 6 games at once and this week you should had seen me screaming at all 6 TV's so many great games people in the sportsbook didn't knew who I was rooting for and I was man I'm just enjoying some freaking good games my team doesn't even play today and shit.(and making money of them at the same time)

Love football, love watching it, reading about it, study it, played my whole life can't stop now[/quote]

you live in Vegas?

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[quote=htownskinfan;477707]apparently this isnt the only time he's messed up

JERRY JONES SAY HOCHULI IS “HIGHLY CRITICIZED”
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2008, 9:36 p.m.
Although the general action in media and fan circles seems to be that referee Ed Hochuli deserves a break despite his badly blown call in Sunday’s game between the Chargers and the Broncos, our own MDS has pointed out that one of the league’s most influential owners is singing a different tune.

“That particular official gets a lot of criticism,” Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said.

Ouch.

“He’s a highly criticized official in the NFL.”

Double ouch.

If Hochuli has that reputation in league circles, that reputation has never made its way outside of league circles. Until now.

But don’t look for Jones to be fined for his comments. As NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told us on Monday, fines are imposed only when criticizes the integrity of officiating. In this case, Jones is simply saying that Hochuli gets criticized a lot.

In other words, Jones isn’t questioning Hochuli’s integrity — he’s criticizing his ability.[/quote]

Funny how the owners don't criticize the rules. In situations like the one at the SD/Denver games, questionable calls (no matter what) should be subject to instant replay review.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;477786]man I'm not bashing and yes I watched the whole game always do yes Washington had more yards and had better plays but N.O controled the score for most of the game that's what I tried to say they had the lead for almost the whole second half.

It was a great game and I've giving your team it props in many threads since the game happened it was a very exiting game and like I said Moss showed the player he used to have and the offense look explosive like it should with so many offensive weapons.

The defense got better as the game passed and dominated the whole 4th quarter and it's the big reason you won that game they played top level when you needed.

I think I'm a very fair poster here and have proved it for many years[/quote]
The lead changed hands 7 times. THEIR coach said they were FORTUNATE to have the lead at halftime. We had 2 interceptions and a fumble recovery. We had a ton more yardage than they did. And yet you say they dominated. You said in another post that we did'nt have a good defense and we would lose. It's not that I dislike you because you're a cowgirl fan, I just don't think you know what the h*** you're talking about. You say you're not biased but then you say N.O. dominated the game when the facts don't back it up. You're a trip dude.

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[quote=htownskinfan;477944]you live in Vegas?[/quote]

No Htown I live in San Diego and go to tijuana each weekend to place bets and a Sportsbook called "Caliente" were they have 60 inch HD Tv's showing the game 6 at once it's heaven

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[quote=53Fan;477957]The lead changed hands 7 times. THEIR coach said they were FORTUNATE to have the lead at halftime. We had 2 interceptions and a fumble recovery. We had a ton more yardage than they did. And yet you say they dominated. You said in another post that we didn't have a good defense and we would lose. It's not that I dislike you because you're a cowgirl fan, I just don't think you know what the h*** you're talking about. You say you're not biased but then you say N.O. dominated the game when the facts don't back it up. You're a trip dude.[/quote]

ok here we go again

First it only changed 4 times (5 if you count the first score) if you go for facts, seconds I said that the controlled the score for almost the second half and had the game in their hand and gave it away in 1 play. I said both teams didn't had a good defense but that your team against NY showed good redzone defense not allowing them to score in multiple locations, and the reason I thought you would lose was that your team hadn't played well or showed anything in the 5 previous games ( 4 pre season 1 regular game) and I couldn't side with your team because of it.

My assessment was based more in offense then defense i said I trusted more N.O offense than Was and that was going to be the difference.

After the game and in that same paragraph you quoted i said that the offense showed the spark that we were waiting and hadn't seen and that the defense was the reason you guys won the game. But it was a good close game that was won in the final minutes for the whole 3rd and almost the 4th quarter N.O was winning the game that's what I was saying with domination because they lost the lead with 3 minutes had a chances to win it back and couldn't because your defense stood up in fact theyhad 3 drives in the 4th qt and couldn't do anything that's what won the game

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I guess your assessment was wrong.

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hey nobody is 100% in their predictions otherwise vegas would go broke

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Tom Brady goes down. Carson Palmer has a 37.1 passer rating, worst in the NFL. The Bills, sorry folks, are good. I Love it. It's almost week 3 and I am just as excited. If there is a God, however the Cowboys will self destruct. No one group of people could be this shameless and arrogant and still win it all. I dont know who I hate more, Tony Romo or his retarted girlfriend-turned-country singer Jessica Simpson.

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Man Arrogant the patriots are arreogant and that's why I hate them the most, The eagles are arrogant without even winning a SB

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you know i'm sick of all this shit about the ref missing that call in denver.it seems to me the reason that the chargers lost that game is because they played like shit most of the game.they should'nt blame the ref,ronald mcdonald,or jack the ripper,they need to blame themselves for all the other plays on both sides of the ball that they played crappy duringlast sunday,not anything else.find a way to win,not a way to whine when you lose.

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[quote=D'BOYZ;478242]Man Arrogant the patriots are arreogant and that's why I hate them the most, The eagles are arrogant without even winning a SB[/quote]

I would agree with your assesment of the pats, however they have some credentials. The Cowboys are everyones sexy pic every year to win the NFC. Why? because they look good on paper? T.O. is the worst though. He might be good but I think he's one of the most overrated players in the league today. He drops a lot of balls. I wouldnt single him out, but he begs for it. He has thrown his teammates under the bus repeatedly. Hell, he insulted the Cowboys on numerous occasions as an Eagle and now Dallas fans embrace him and cheer his name. It's really sad.

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i hate dallas too,but T.O is a great WR bar none.he's brass,arrogant,and he seems like a real asshole,but he is one hell of an athelete.he may be a shitty teammate,but the eagles would have loved to have kept him because he's a winner wherever he goes.

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[quote=johnerotten;478266]i hate dallas too,but T.O is a great WR bar none.he's brass,arrogant,and he seems like a real asshole,but he is one hell of an athelete.he may be a shitty teammate,but the eagles would have loved to have kept him because he's a winner wherever he goes.[/quote]

I never argued that he wasnt good. I said he was overrated. I have seen this guy drop so many passes. He is probably the best at his posistion at route running and getting open, but his hands are not that of an elite wideout. Also last I checked a good wide reciever needs a good quaterback to throw him the ball. T.O. has had this luxury throughout his entire career.

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[quote=johnerotten;478263]you know i'm sick of all this shit about the ref missing that call in denver.it seems to me the reason that the chargers lost that game is because they played like shit most of the game.they should'nt blame the ref,ronald mcdonald,or jack the ripper,they need to blame themselves for all the other plays on both sides of the ball that they played crappy duringlast sunday,not anything else.find a way to win,not a way to whine when you lose.[/quote]

While I see your point, you need to remember a couple things. 1- it was a good game, and San Diego played well...obviously they did since it came down to one play for the game. 2- Had the call been called correctly, they would have won. You can't slice that any other way. The refs should not lose you a game, and in this unfortunate case, it did. The chargers have my sympathy for that one cause if this happened to my skins, I'd be f-ing irrate!

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[quote=jsarno;478272]While I see your point, you need to remember a couple things. 1- it was a good game, and San Diego played well...obviously they did since it came down to one play for the game. 2- Had the call been called correctly, they would have won. You can't slice that any other way. The refs should not lose you a game, and in this unfortunate case, it did. The chargers have my sympathy for that one cause if this happened to my skins, I'd be f-ing irrate![/quote]


To add to that there was a call in the beginning of that game where it was ruled that a san diego player fumbled. The call was wrong, but it was not overturned because the replay equipment was not working at the time. Normally I would say suck it up after one bad call, but the chargers really took it in the shorts on this one.

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[quote=DirtyLandry;478264]I would agree with your assesment of the pats, however they have some credentials. The Cowboys are everyones sexy pic every year to win the NFC. Why? because they look good on paper? T.O. is the worst though. He might be good but I think he's one of the most overrated players in the league today. He drops a lot of balls. I wouldnt single him out, but he begs for it. He has thrown his teammates under the bus repeatedly. Hell, he insulted the Cowboys on numerous occasions as an Eagle and now Dallas fans embrace him and cheer his name. It's really sad.[/quote]


I'm sorry but this statement it's wrong but after troy went down and Dallas was in their 5 -11 season they never were picked to win the NFC specially since it was the Eagles glory days back then there's only been 2 years Dallas has been picked to win the NFC this one and the last one and heck they had 13-3 record last year so the media wasn't that wrong Nobody had NY to win the NFC, Dallas lost but it wasn't over hyped it's not like when they pick Arizona each year as their surprise team or Minnesota to win the SB just because the got Jarred Allen don't mind they don't have a qb.

Now to say T.O it's overrated it's dumb the guy it's second all time in td's behind Rice only and Rice had to HOF at QB, talk about luck. I have to say because of the media I also hated T.O before he got to Dallas and I for 1 didn't want him here because of the perception I had off him I didn't want to disrupt the team.

But since he came and the more I've seen read and heard off him (complete interviews not the edit version everyone gets), the guy it's a huge competitor an excellent teammate heck players in philly took his side over McNabb and are still great friends of him. The guy works and plays hard each week always gives it his all and wants to win. I want a guy like that on my team always.

The guy isn't a punk he doesn't get in trouble with the law, he's show business he sell his product which is T.O the media want to talk to him because every week they know they will get something print and everyone will read it sad but true some of the things are just lame but still people read it.

He's one of the greatest WR all time and that's a fact he might drop balls yeah but he scores 10+ td's each year how many WR do that.

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He's one of the greatest receivers of all time............he might drop balls yeah...... I think I see an oxyMORON.