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vaoutlaws2006 09-18-2008 08:01 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions
 
Portis and Betts all day long. Im looking to see alot of production out of the run game.


skins 27
cards 13

GMScud 09-18-2008 09:23 PM

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;478278]Portis and Betts all day long. [B]Im looking to see alot of production out of the run game.
[/B]

skins 27
cards 13[/quote]

I agree. Arizona hasn't allowed a passing TD yet this year. Gotta run to set up the pass this week for sure.

53Fan 09-18-2008 09:52 PM

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If we can get in Warners face, which I believe we will, it will be interception city. We need to make even more progress this week with dallas and philly coming up. The coaches know that and after the success we had last week our guys should be fired up! The offense is starting to see what we can do for real. Not just talking about it, but actually going out and putting some points on the board. I think they are really starting to believe in this system and Coach Zorn and thats why practice is getting better. It works, and now everybody wants in on it. Everybodys tough, but damnit so are the REDSKINS!!!

rypper11 09-18-2008 10:22 PM

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I'm expecting problems in the red zone offensively but I think the D will limit the Cards.

Skins - 22 (Suisham goes 5 of 6 but makes a long one at the end to win it)
Cards - 21

skins6 09-18-2008 11:05 PM

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Skins 30 Cards17

CRedskinsRule 09-18-2008 11:17 PM

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It's one thing when we get no respect from national media outlets, you kind of expect that, but for the few Skins fans here that are saying how the Cardinals are going to give us a run, (of course anything can happen, but we are talking expectations based on reality not fluky events) I can't understand it. I think when the season gets where teams really can be evaluated for this season's play, the loss to the Giants is going to be looked at in the same light the Eagles/Cowboys game is already...
A battle of NFC EAST power. Eagles Cowboys was an offensive show, and the Skins/Giants a defensive one.

I just won't believe that any team outside our division will come close to the Skins(maybe Pittsburgh we will see on that one) . We held the Saints vaunted offense to a pitiful first half, yes our offense didn't capitalize right away but we all have said this year that the D has to hold the fort first so the offense can find a rhythm and that is what happened. My one concern is that we weren't playing against there first string D in the 4th qtr, and so this Arizona game holds alot of interest to see how the offense can carry it's lessons forward. The team answered the call last week, and they will do it again this week, and this time there won't be a doubt of which was the better team. My prediction was 24-17 Skins which is close, but i dont think the statistics will be close, the Cards will just hit one or two lucky strikes.

i guess this rambled a bit, point is Skins are going to demonstrate they are for real this week!

GTripp0012 09-18-2008 11:19 PM

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73-2. Wow.

If the Redskins lose this game to a team that's just as good if not better than the Skins, it's going to be fire Zorn, fire Campbell, cut Moss, demote Portis threads galore.

dall-assblows 09-18-2008 11:28 PM

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ive said it before an ill say it a again.

3-2 redskins

GMScud 09-18-2008 11:33 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;478302]73-2. Wow.

If the Redskins lose this game [B]to a team that's just as good if not better than the Skins[/B], it's going to be fire Zorn, fire Campbell, cut Moss, demote Portis threads galore.[/quote]

Could you PLEASE elaborate to help assuage the annoyance I'm dealing with from some of the blind homers on this thread? I tried, but only BDBohnzie wants to listen.

4thGenRedskin21 09-19-2008 01:00 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;478300]It's one thing when we get no respect from national media outlets, you kind of expect that, but for the few Skins fans here that are saying how the Cardinals are going to give us a run, (of course anything can happen, but we are talking expectations based on reality not fluky events) I can't understand it. I think when the season gets where teams really can be evaluated for this season's play, the loss to the Giants is going to be looked at in the same light the Eagles/Cowboys game is already...
A battle of NFC EAST power. Eagles Cowboys was an offensive show, and the Skins/Giants a defensive one.

I just won't believe that any team outside our division will come close to the Skins(maybe Pittsburgh we will see on that one) . We held the Saints vaunted offense to a pitiful first half, yes our offense didn't capitalize right away but we all have said this year that the D has to hold the fort first so the offense can find a rhythm and that is what happened. My one concern is that we weren't playing against there first string D in the 4th qtr, and so this Arizona game holds alot of interest to see how the offense can carry it's lessons forward. The team answered the call last week, and they will do it again this week, and this time there won't be a doubt of which was the better team. My prediction was 24-17 Skins which is close, but i dont think the statistics will be close, the Cards will just hit one or two lucky strikes.

i guess this rambled a bit, point is Skins are going to demonstrate they are for real this week![/quote]


THANK YOU!!!!! but is seems some people in here think we are just any team, like the browns or something like that, and we AREN"T. WE have a top 10 defense and everyone can see our offense has improved. I guess anyone who thinks the skins are gonna dominate the cards because we have in the past and we have beat them the last 6 times we have played, and we play at home. BUT that doesnt matter, cus we're homers and those other few just know how good the cards are and they will beat us...

(pshhtt, yeah right) All real redskins fans know the deal. Ive been a fan for too long and have been a fan through alll thew crappy teams and we finally have a solid, real good group of players and im not supposed to be happy when our young guys step up and show they can be called on and I think we are gonna build on last week and beat the cards.. But hey, im just a "homer" for thinking that... LOL
You would think we are facing the Colts or the Patriots wiht Tom brady the way some of these guys act. ITs the CARDINALS!!!! OHHHH NOOOOO!! and they are 2-0!!!!! THEY BEAT THE REally good dolphins and the superbowl contender 49ers!!!! WATCH OUT NOWWWWWW!!!!


hahaha

4thGenRedskin21 09-19-2008 01:01 AM

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GM, How much do you want to bet that i turn out right, and you turn out wrong?? I would think im talking to a undercover dallas or cardinals fans if I didnt know anybetter..

let me know!

4thGenRedskin21 09-19-2008 01:05 AM

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portis is averaging 90 yards a game and at least a TD a game. Jason Campbell is only behind Eli Manning i nthe NFC east for qbs in 4th quarter and that is saying alot, becaue thats where we lost a few crucial games in the 4th that Campbell could have won us.. He will win those games this year.. We need to get our new young WR's healthy so they are able to help us in the redzone. Malcolm Kelly is going to be a tremendous target for us in the redzone. There's no excuse why they arent on the field more than they are.. I realize alot of 1st year WR's dont show up their first year but if little ass desean jackson can get two conesutive 100 yard games, I know our rookies can do something to help us out. Zorn is just going to have to trust them.. When Zorn put him and Devin thomas out on the field in a package, they got a 1st down, and Zorn never went back to that formation again.

GTripp0012 09-19-2008 01:06 AM

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[quote=GMScud;478305]Could you PLEASE elaborate to help assuage the annoyance I'm dealing with from some of the blind homers on this thread? I tried, but only BDBohnzie wants to listen.[/quote]I don't have much else to say. This is a "pick-em" game. You definately expect a Skins bias here, as there rightfully should be, but only 70% of us thought we would beat the Giants.

Remember all the threads here when we lost by nine points?

If we win this game, people will think they know something. If we lose it, we'll all start scapegoating people for losing to the Cardinals when we should be looking ourselves in the mirror for underestimating the opponent.

I'm optimistic that we'll come out on top, but I'm not particularly confident in that. If we don't continue to improve over last week, we lose, plain and simple.

SkinzzFan 09-19-2008 06:28 AM

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Warner could hurt us if he has time. With that said, I don't think he'll have much time at all with Taylor and Carter. I keep hearing how "improved" the Cards D is this year. My reaction to that is 1.) look at who they've played so far and 2.) of course their D is improved. They haven't exactly been a powerhouse over the last say...80+ years (or however old they are). ANYTHING is an improvement!

My prediction? PAIN! (Clubber Lang, Rocky III).

Skins 31
Cards 21

djnemo65 09-19-2008 06:57 AM

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30-21 Skins

rypper11 09-19-2008 08:49 AM

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Reality check:

We are 3 point favorites at home. Traditionally home field advantage is 3 points so the oddsmakers expect this to be a pick 'em.

Kurt Warner is one of the most accurate passers of all time (a 7-time offensive player of the week including last week and 2-time MVP). Fitzgerald and Boldin are two of the best wr's in the league right now (both have scored from over 75 yards). Not to mention they also have very inventive playcalling and a good O-Line.They have a young but very talented defense (Alan Branch, Calais Campbell who I still wish we would have drafted, Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, Travis LaBoy, Darnell Dockett, etc..) They took huge strides last year and they will probably win the West this season (for what that's worth, it's a pretty week division).
This is not the Cardinals of old and they will not be an easy win. I think the Skins will win but not by much. This is one of those weeks we need a Gibbs speech about how "this is a tough opponent and we need to really play our guts out."
BTW, did anybody else notice that not only are Russ Grimm and Ken Wisenhut on the Cards staff, but their QB coach is Jeff Rutledge?

hesscl34 09-19-2008 09:39 AM

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I really don't know how this game is going to go. What I want is for the Skins to ride on that last bomb to Moss and keep that going right into this game, but I have a feeling we might be back to the hell rollercoaster ride we all call "A Skins Game"…. get your zoloft ready.

skinsguy 09-19-2008 09:57 AM

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Redskins --- 465
Cards ------ 17

The 17 points for the cards comes in garbage time. ;)

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-19-2008 09:59 AM

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Redskins 41 Cards 0

CRedskinsRule 09-19-2008 10:10 AM

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[quote=rypper11;478345]Reality check:
[B]
We are 3 point favorites at home[/B]. Traditionally home field advantage is 3 points so the [B]oddsmakers expect this to be a pick 'em[/B].

Kurt Warner is one of the most accurate passers of all time (a 7-time offensive player of the week including last week and 2-time MVP). Fitzgerald and Boldin are two of the best wr's in the league right now (both have scored from over 75 yards). Not to mention they also have very inventive playcalling and a good O-Line.They have a young but very talented defense (Alan Branch, Calais Campbell who I still wish we would have drafted, Karlos Dansby, Bertrand Berry, Travis LaBoy, Darnell Dockett, etc..) They took huge strides last year and they will probably win the West this season (for what that's worth, it's a pretty week division).
This is not the Cardinals of old and they will not be an easy win. I think the Skins will win but not by much. This is one of those weeks we need a Gibbs speech about how "this is a tough opponent and we need to really play our guts out."
BTW, did anybody else notice that not only are Russ Grimm and Ken Wisenhut on the Cards staff, but their QB coach is Jeff Rutledge?[/quote]

HUH???? IF the oddsmakers expected this to be a PICK' em, they would have put the odds at ....... PICK' EM

Are you saying that every home favorite that is at less then 3pts is the underdog???? I must have missed the new math lesson that day.

Further, I believe Fedex to be a better than average home field, so from now on, I guess if we are favored by 5 at home, it is really a pick' em game. and in the playoff home games, when the stadium is rocking, we must be underdogs if we aren't favored by 10.

bigSkinsfan61 09-19-2008 10:26 AM

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skins 31-cardinals 24 curt warner will def not have the luxury he's had the last 2 games of having all day to pick apart our defense...will be close till late 3rd quarter...

BDBohnzie 09-19-2008 10:33 AM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;478326]I'm optimistic that we'll come out on top, but I'm not particularly confident in that. If we don't continue to improve over last week, we lose, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
A very simple concept. I hate the fact that I have to sit here and defend my thoughts and decisions merely because I'm not being a homer. The Cardinals are not as bad as some would like to think, and I also think the Redskins aren't as good as some would like to think. My heart wants to say that the Skins will roll on all cylinders, and that they'll stomp a big old mudhole in the Cards. But my head knows that the Cards are a good football team, and there are several factors they have in their favor.

I'd also like to point out that I did pick the Redskins to win...[url=http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/25321-redskins-vs-cardinals-predictions.html#post478046]see Post #16[/url]...something I haven't done the last 2 weeks.

If I'm wrong, so be it...but I'm going to be honest before I'm a homer, plain and simple. So call me what you want, but I've bled burgundy and gold for almost 30 years of my existence, have been through the ups and downs, and will continue to do so for the next 30, 40, 50+ years. But I'm not going to be dishonest with myself either.

BDBohnzie 09-19-2008 10:35 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;478359]HUH???? IF the oddsmakers expected this to be a PICK' em, they would have put the odds at ....... PICK' EM

Are you saying that every home favorite that is at less then 3pts is the underdog???? I must have missed the new math lesson that day.

Further, I believe Fedex to be a better than average home field, so from now on, I guess if we are favored by 5 at home, it is really a pick' em game. and in the playoff home games, when the stadium is rocking, we must be underdogs if we aren't favored by 10.[/quote]
It's pretty well-known that when the oddsmakers are setting the odds for each game, one of the things they automatically do is give the home team -3 off the bat for the home field advantage. -3 isn't necessarily a PICK EM game, but what it means is that besides the home field, the oddsmakers are looking at this game as very even keeled game. No distinct advantage for either team, besides the home field.

CRedskinsRule 09-19-2008 10:50 AM

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I do understand the concept of home teams getting a bump, but to turn around and say that therefore it is a pick'em game is wrong. and as for defending not being a homer, we have all watched the past 17 years of Skins not living up to hopes and expectations, but homerism is picking the 1-10 dolphins to beat the 11 -0 patriots because you are a dolphin fan (i might have the stats wrong but just an example) but saying that a team that really outplayed a vaunted offense and played the superbowl champs close, if ugly, will soundly beat a team that beat 2 teams likely to have losing records, is not, in my opinion the same type of homerism. but hey, i am a homer so i guess my opinion is null and void.

SmootSmack 09-19-2008 10:56 AM

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Skins 4
Cardinals 3

Hey, it could happen

Seriously though, I think this game could come down to OT. After that...it all depends

birdz4gibbs 09-19-2008 11:10 AM

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this game is hard to figure out but i,m seeing this game with highs and lows but with the highs at the end to carry us thru to the end of the game in a high scoring affair 27-24 skins win with a FG.....alot is going to depend on our effect and energy level in the second half..

so again skins win 27-24...

Monkeydad 09-19-2008 11:20 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;478373]Skins 4
Cardinals 3

Hey, it could happen

Seriously though, I think this game could come down to OT. After that...it all depends[/quote]

Auburn beat Mississippi State 3-2 last week. :D

over the mountain 09-19-2008 11:27 AM

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24 - 17 . . .



. . .skins win again! last year i didnt get one game dead on so this year ill get lucky one game and get the exact score.

yahoooo for me!

go skins!

EternalEnigma21 09-19-2008 11:33 AM

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Enough of the bickering. Hug it out bitches.

hail_2_da_skins 09-19-2008 11:42 AM

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Redskins 27 Cardinals 17

I look in my crystal ball and I see Kurt Warner getting sack and I see Kurt Warner fumbling the ball and I see someone in a white jersey running it back for a touchdown.

CRedskinsRule 09-19-2008 11:43 AM

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;478384]Enough of the bickering. Hug it out bitches.[/quote]

Hugs all around, Love our Skins man:headbange

Gmanc711 09-19-2008 11:51 AM

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This is a tough game to call, I dont know how good the Cardinals are, and I think we'll find out this week. Not saying were an "Elite" NFL team or anything, but were are much better that Miami or San Fransisco....

I think it will be close, just like last year...they have a lot of weapons on both sides of the ball. I think they will give us some trouble defensivley...but I love how our defense has played really for the last 7 quarters. I think the Skins' win this game, say 24-14....but I wouldnt be shocked in the slightest if Arizona pulls one out either. Maybe its the year they actually are a little good. Really tough call.

I will say though, I think this is a must win....with trips to Dallas and Philly...even if we come out of the first five game stretch at 2-3, thats not terrible. If we can win this week than steal one of the next two, I'm happier than a pig in shit.

gibbsisgod 09-19-2008 12:43 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Cardinals predictions
 
[quote=BDBohnzie;478369]It's pretty well-known that when the oddsmakers are setting the odds for each game, one of the things they automatically do is give the home team -3 off the bat for the home field advantage. -3 isn't necessarily a PICK EM game, but what it means is that besides the home field, the oddsmakers are looking at this game as very even keeled game. No distinct advantage for either team, besides the home field.[/quote]I might add that the odds makers make a line to ensure maximum betting action not on who they believe will win. The line could actually change right up until kickoff if they believe it could draw more betting action. Last week I think the odds were at Pick 'em until gameday when it went to skins -1. They did this only for betting purposes, not because they thought the Skins were less likely to win.

Monkeydad 09-19-2008 01:00 PM

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92-4 :)

GMScud 09-19-2008 01:09 PM

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;478387]Redskins 27 Cardinals 17

I look in my crystal ball and I see Kurt Warner getting sack and I see Kurt Warner fumbling the ball and I see someone in a white jersey running it back for a touchdown.[/quote]

I was actually thinking that last night. I smell a defensive TD coming soon...

over the mountain 09-19-2008 01:16 PM

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just got a glimpse of the back of that white jersey as he was walking it in and it had TAYLOR on the back . . . yeah my crystal ball comes with HD!!!

go skins!!

horse 09-19-2008 01:18 PM

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[quote=Angry;478018]Skins 21
Cards 24

The Cardinals owe us after that close loss last season. In the end they have too much fire power to go with veteran QB play. Our offense will look sluggish at first, but still manage 3 TD's. It will not be enough though.[/quote]

They have the same fire power and same qb as when we beat them last year, And I believe we've improved more than they have. Besides the EA simulation has us winning 37-6 so we must win.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-19-2008 01:20 PM

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[quote=SkinzzFan;478335]Warner could hurt us if he has time. With that said, I don't think he'll have much time at all with Taylor and Carter. I keep hearing how "improved" the Cards D is this year. My reaction to that is 1.) look at who they've played so far and 2.) of course their D is improved. They haven't exactly been a powerhouse over the last say...80+ years (or however old they are). ANYTHING is an improvement!

[I][B]My prediction? PAIN![/B][/I] (Clubber Lang, Rocky III).

Skins 31
Cards 21[/quote]

That's MY line!

SkinzzFan 09-19-2008 01:26 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;478416]That's MY line![/quote]

LOL...my bad, I had no idea. I'll be more careful with movie quotes in the future!

HAIL!!

Lotus 09-19-2008 01:47 PM

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Skins 27, Cards 21

Cards offense has a few big plays. But the Skins defense gets to Warner, causes mistakes, and scores a touchdown. The Skins running game does the rest.


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