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[quote=SUNRA;479824]Redskins will win this game by out coaching the Pillsbury Doe Boy.[/quote]
I love that part! Zorn, the LEAST experienced coach in the league who has not even worked as a coordinator.

Okay, if that is what you think.

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Wade isn't even the coach anyway. Garrett is.

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479852]Zorn will not last 2 seasons.... little boy Dan will get impatient

Zorns clock management is a site to behold though[/quote]

What are you smoking? Must be some of that goody good

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I don't care what stats are thrown in our faces nor do I care that other teams' fans or even a few of our own fans don't fear Zorn and his play calling. You can take all of that crap and throw it out the window.

Sasquatchreath: Shut your freakin' mouth about Zorn and Daniel Snyder.

Dallas Fans: Win, lose, or draw, be ready for a long, tough battle Sunday afternoon. Dallas may come out with a W. But, they will have to earn it and keep earning it until the final gun. This is going to be a tough game for both teams.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;479843]Wade isn't even the coach anyway. Garrett is.[/quote]
I don't care if Aunt Jemima is the coach, as long as they keep winning.

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[quote=skins6;479838]prior to the 4 out of 6 we did not fair very well the last 4 out of 6 don't matter-controlling their running game does-I show my REDSKINS TATS with HONOR[/quote]

I know this. This is another good thing that Joe Gibbs did for us. He emphasized the importance of this rivalry to the team. Spurrier and the clowns before him did not understand this. I think our team now knows that they need to beat the cowboys if not for anything else. You can talk X's and O's and talent on paper all you want, fact is our guys want it more.

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479873]but I am sure some expensive free agents will be available in the offseason and next year will be different.[/quote]

Who are you talking to and what the heck are you talking about?

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The music in that clip was sooo cheesy I loved it hahaha. All I want is to see Romo or T.O. cry. Again. Is that too much to ask for!?

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Sasquatchreath only has 8 posts and just registered on the forum, probably today. I would question his avatar, and his loyalty.

Might have a "troll" in "Redskins clothing"

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479873]but I am sure some expensive free agents will be available in the offseason and next year will be different.[/quote]


Uhh, this is 2008 not '01. Chill buddy, your ignorance is showing

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479873]but I am sure some expensive free agents will be available in the offseason and next year will be different.[/quote]

I understand your pessimism. But I think that Dannyboy has learned a lot. This year we had 20 of our top 22 starters returning, 10 draft picks and with the exception of Jason Taylor (a neccesity) we didn't overpay for any free agents like many other teams did. Zorn is an experiment, but we have a potent, innovative offense and we're 2-1 against 3 very good teams...If this is any indication we are looking good for the future. I'm not expecting to make the playoffs this year, but things are looking up.

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479883]I appreciate the up attitude, but when do you say enough. What is Dan's total record since taking over the ship?[/quote]

I don't say "enough" when we've gone the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years in the toughest division in football and are off to a 2-1 start.

Also, FYI, we welcome you if you want to engage in thoughtful discussion. If, however, you came here to troll, expect not to last too long.

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479883]I appreciate the up attitude, but when do you say enough. What is Dan's total record since taking over the ship?[/quote]

Dan's not a coach, just so you know

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479886]I have done nothing but discuss my view on the team in a civil way, nothing out of line whatsoever......

for a football forum we sure have some thin skin. it appears as if rah rah is all you want. I think this team has some serious issues starting at ownership and coaching staff, thats all I am saying. Seems constructive to me.... unless anything other than how great they are is trolling.

geez[/quote]

I think its hard to see your thoughtful discussion when all you drop is one liners, that just seem to come off the top of your head. You have no supporting information.

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479886]I have done nothing but discuss my view on the team in a civil way, nothing out of line whatsoever......

for a football forum we sure have some thin skin. it appears as if rah rah is all you want. I think this team has some serious issues starting at ownership and coaching staff, thats all I am saying. Seems constructive to me.... unless anything other than how great they are is trolling.

geez[/quote]

There are a lot of objective fans on this site. You aren't the first and certainly wont be the last. I think you just need to acknowledge that maybe Dan has learned from his mistakes and is trying to right the ship. Zorn was not a sexy hire...it was a smart one. Joe Gibbs was a practical nobody when he was given the head coaching job.

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mello- dramatic

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Behold the face of a true hatter my children:

[IMG]http://i34.tinypic.com/24d0eh5.png[/IMG]

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[quote=sasquatchbreath;479892]but I also know where I am not welcome and will not force the issue.

enjoy each other....[/quote]

I meant it when I said that you are welcome here, provided you have a genuine interest in thoughtfully discussing issues related to the Redskins. You are not the only person on this board who dislikes Snyder. Moreover, it's fine to criticize the team and/or Snyder if you do it in an intelligent and thoughtful way.

I merely cautioned you against trolling because we get a lot of trolls on this board and your previous posts were one-liners with little substance (i.e., classic troll posts). I could be wrong and maybe you are not trolling. If that's the case, I apologize for sounding a little harsh.

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Don't you guys get the feeling that the Skins are not intimidated by playing the Cowboys and the Giants under Zorn than they were with Gibbs II?

This team seems to be comfortable taking advantage of their breaks and cashing in on the other teams turn-overs. Just wondering what the Jason Taylor lost will do for our pass rush.

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As much as I hate Dallas I doubt if we'll be able to contain them for the simple reason that we don't have anyone in our secondary that can match up with TO. Sean was the guy that kinda allways kept TOs head on a swivel and the fear that he instilled in him showed on the field. We all "hate to love" TO but he is indeed the best reciever in the game. Had TO played in that week 17 game at FedEx last year the outcome would have been different. Sean missed the first game in Dallas and TO showed off with 3TDs and didn't even care about anyone on our defense. Count on TO being Springs' responsibility next week...which doesn't sound too good considering that TO has always had Springs number (going back to his days in Seattle, ie. Sharpie). Unless we find out what Green Bay did to stop him, look forward to our secondary getting man handled. This one could very well be a shootout

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[quote=sandtrapjack;479868]I don't care if Aunt Jemima is the coach, as long as they keep winning.[/quote]

Hey sandtrapjack you're really a class act Cowboy fan and you got my respect man. Sorry I can't say the same for some Skins fans here. We should be better than just angry,crude and pointless comments.
Come game time it will be clear which team is the better for now

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When were we ever intimidated playing the Cowboys? Not since I have been alive( I am 38). They might have had a nice streak going on us from late Norv through Spurrier, but I can't ever say we were initmidated by them. Even with the games we lost, most were decent and were fairly close. Shit, in '95 even good ole Gus gave us a sweep of them Boys and that was in their last years of their last dynasty. Put simply, bring them bitches on!!!!!!

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*Sigh*

And now this week is upon us....

Dallas Week.

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Let us not forget the Skins are 4-2 vs Dallas in the last 6 games. Dallas looks amazing right now, but you can throw that out the window when we play.

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haha you can say that again. Hey if we beat the #1 ranked Dallas Cowboys, doesn't that automatically makes us #1 ?!. Big IF I know. Just throwing that out there.

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[quote=jsarno;479458]I NEVER think we will lose, and I stay positive all the way until the final whistle blows...that's just who I am. That being said, there are only two teams that I feel are elite teams right now, that's Dallas and Denver. Can we beat them? Certainly! But we need to be better in all facets of the game to do so.[/quote]Would you add San Diego to this if they thrash the Jets tonight?

I assume that would be the next step, seeing as how they played your #1 team to a virtual tie in Denver.

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[quote=HAILItsGAMEDAY;479928]haha you can say that again. Hey if we beat the #1 ranked Dallas Cowboys, doesn't that automatically makes us #1 ?!. Big IF I know. Just throwing that out there.[/quote]Well, no. But it would make them not #1, most likely.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;479841]I love that part! Zorn, the LEAST experienced coach in the league who has not even worked as a coordinator.

Okay, if that is what you think.[/quote]

Even with his inexperience, Zorn has one more win over Jimmy "Mr. Do" Johnson who started his first year coaching 1-15. Remember? How bout them Cowboys!

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;479919]We all "hate to love" TO but he is indeed the best reciever in the game. [/quote]

Gotta disagree with you. T.O. is great I'll admit, But I gotta give it to Randy Moss. I have seen T.O. drop way too many passes over the years to crown him the best.

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[quote=GTripp0012;479939]Would you add San Diego to this if they thrash the Jets tonight?

I assume that would be the next step, seeing as how they played your #1 team to a virtual tie in Denver.[/quote]

They are 0-2. Granted they had a blown call that lost them a game, but it should have never came down to that. They are not elite right now...IF they crush the Jets, and that would depend on how they crush the Jets they still won't be elite, but they would be hovering around 10-13 on the power poll. The Jets are average (between 13-18 on the power poll), so beating them isn't exactly a huge thing.

San Diego certainly has the talent to be an elite team, but they are not playing like one at all. Is it coaching? Maybe. Who knows at this point. Could they be elite in 2 or 3 games, absolutely. So tonight is not the deciding factor.

ps- it's 17-14 SD right now.

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[quote=DirtyLandry;479955]Gotta disagree with you. T.O. is great I'll admit, But I gotta give it to Randy Moss. I have seen T.O. drop way too many passes over the years to crown him the best.[/quote]
Randy Moss only knows how to run one route...his age is starting to catch up with him and when his speed is gone you will see how great he REALLY is...Owens is a balanced WR while he's both fast and is a possesion reciever which he will have to rely on when his speed is gone...mark my word TO will outlast Moss in this league...and Moss is insignificant without a QB just as he was in Oakland...I don't care what team you put TO on he will still distinguish himself from the rest

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[quote=DirtyLandry;479955]Gotta disagree with you. T.O. is great I'll admit, But I gotta give it to Randy Moss. I have seen T.O. drop way too many passes over the years to crown him the best.[/quote]

I gotta agree with you. TO is certainly an elite WR, but his dropsies are holding him back from being the best. Even this week he dropped a perfect pass right in his hands vs GB. Missed another that was "catchable" but I doubt they called it a drop. Throw in his emotions and his ability to kill chemistry, and he drops on my list even farther.
Really is a shame he's bipolar (or at least seems like it), the man is physically a beast. Ever since David Boston left the league, Owens is the unquestioned leader in amazing physical fitness among WR's.

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[quote=jsarno;479962]I gotta agree with you. TO is certainly an elite WR, but his dropsies are holding him back from being the best. Even this week he dropped a perfect pass right in his hands vs GB. Missed another that was "catchable" but I doubt they called it a drop. Throw in his emotions and his ability to kill chemistry, and he drops on my list even farther.
[B]Really is a shame he's bipolar (or at least seems like it), [/B]the man is physically a beast. Ever since David Boston left the league, Owens is the unquestioned leader in amazing physical fitness among WR's.[/quote]

Do you think it's bipolar or just amazingly selfish? Have you ever seen someone look so miserable during a big win as TO did last night? He wasn't smiling once, and I'll bet every penny I have it's because his stat line was 2 rec, 17yds. Straight up SELFISH. Why do you think Romo took that unnecessary shot at the endzone to TO when the game was well in hand? Guaranteed TO asked for that. I hate the dude.

But yeah, he's a physical freak.

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;479960]I don't care what team you put TO on he will still distinguish himself from the rest[/quote]

What evidence do you have to support this? Randy Moss went to a HORRIBLE Raiders team that didn't even want to throw his way. And he only knows how to run one route?! Come on, man you dont break the single season touchdown record running only one route.

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[quote=SUNRA;479945]Even with his inexperience, Zorn has one more win over Jimmy "Mr. Do" Johnson who started his first year coaching 1-15. Remember? How bout them Cowboys![/quote]
I appreciate your "homerism" where Zorn is concerned, but now you are drawing comparisons between him and a former head coach that had back to back Super Bowl victories, and is a probable hall of famer. And you draw this comparison after only 3 regular season games in Zorns coaching career.

Maybe it's me, but do you not think that may be just a smidgin premature?

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;479960]Randy Moss only knows how to run one route...his age is starting to catch up with him and when his speed is gone you will see how great he REALLY is...Owens is a balanced WR while he's both fast and is a possesion reciever which he will have to rely on when his speed is gone...mark my word TO will outlast Moss in this league...and Moss is insignificant without a QB just as he was in Oakland...I don't care what team you put TO on he will still distinguish himself from the rest[/quote]

I call BS.
Put Owens on the Rams, or Miami, and he will disappear. Well minus the crying and bitching to get him the ball, or trade him to a good team. Moss had to suffer on one of the worst teams in the NFL in oakland.

Here is who Owens had throwing the majority of the passes to him over the years.

Steve Young (hall of famer)
Elvis Grbac (pro bowler without TO fyi)
Jeff Garcia (4 time pro bowler)
Donovan McNabb (5 time pro bowler, possible HOFer when career is over)
Drew Bledsoe (4 time pro bowler and possible HOFer)
Tony Romo

Here is who Moss had throwing to him:

Randall Cunningham
Brad Johnson
Jeff George
Dante Culpepper
Kerry Collins
Andrew Walter
Aaron Brooks
Tom Brady (only 1 season mind you)
Matt Cassel

Which list would you rather have to this point? Keep in mind you'd only get Brady for 1 season.

ps- there have been several comments about Moss's polished route running. He is a complete WR. Also, Moss has 126 TD's and Owens has 134 tds...only 8 different, yet Owens is 4 years older.
[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/all_td_active.htm]Active Touchdowns Leaders - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;479967]Do you think it's bipolar or just amazingly selfish? Have you ever seen someone look so miserable during a big win as TO did last night? He wasn't smiling once, and I'll bet every penny I have it's because his stat line was 2 rec, 17yds. Straight up SELFISH. Why do you think Romo took that unnecessary shot at the endzone to TO when the game was well in hand? Guaranteed TO asked for that. I hate the dude.

But yeah, he's a physical freak.[/quote]

He acts bipolar to me, but it could be an unparalleled selfishness. Either way, you're right.

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[quote=jsarno;479984]I call BS.
Put Owens on the Rams, or Miami, and he will disappear. Well minus the crying and bitching to get him the ball, or trade him to a good team. Moss had to suffer on one of the worst teams in the NFL in oakland.

Here is who Owens had throwing the majority of the passes to him over the years.

Steve Young (hall of famer)
Elvis Grbac (pro bowler without TO fyi)
Jeff Garcia (4 time pro bowler)
Donovan McNabb (5 time pro bowler, possible HOFer when career is over)
Drew Bledsoe (4 time pro bowler and possible HOFer)
Tony Romo

Here is who Moss had throwing to him:

Randall Cunningham
Brad Johnson
Jeff George
Dante Culpepper
Kerry Collins
Andrew Walter
Aaron Brooks
Tom Brady (only 1 season mind you)
Matt Cassel

Which list would you rather have to this point? Keep in mind you'd only get Brady for 1 season.

ps- there have been several comments about Moss's polished route running. He is a complete WR. Also, Moss has 126 TD's and Owens has 134 tds...only 8 different, yet Owens is 4 years older.
[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/all_td_active.htm]Active Touchdowns Leaders - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/quote]

Great post jsarno! My friend and I had this same conversation the other day and I brought up qb's respectively.

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[quote=jsarno;479988]He acts bipolar to me, but it could be an unparalleled selfishness. Either way, you're right.[/quote]

Completely selfish... I remember seeing him on Cribs. He drives a custom VW Bug (one of the new girly ones)...on the same show he admited to being single for a very long time. Hmm wonder why.

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[quote=DirtyLandry;479998]Completely selfish... I remember seeing him on Cribs. He drives a custom VW Bug (one of the new girly ones)...on the same show he admited to being single for a very long time. Hmm wonder why.[/quote]

:rofl:
A BUG??????? What a joke.

It doesn't surprise me he's single, woman don't like to be with high maintenance men with attitude problems, and selfish tendancies. They already called those traits! :joke: