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Hog1 09-26-2008 10:53 AM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
While I generally enjoy your posts, and your presence here, if you will review your............facts, perhaps the phrase "spin doctor" would more honestly fit your information put forth in this thread?
HTTR

over the mountain 09-26-2008 11:46 AM

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heres a fact for ya sandtrapp . . . .4 of the last 6!!!

go skins!!

sandtrapjack 09-26-2008 11:53 AM

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[quote=over the mountain;481247]heres a fact for ya sandtrapp . . . .4 of the last 6!!!

go skins!![/quote]
And another fact for you 15 of the last 20!

over the mountain 09-26-2008 11:57 AM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
yeah i like my 3 year window better, alil more accurate in showcasing whose gonna win since alot of the players are the same but keep living in the past my friend . . . what was it '97 the last time you all won a playoff game? its been so long im kinda losing count now.

go skins!!!!

sandtrapjack 09-26-2008 12:02 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;481255]yeah i like my 3 year window better, alil more accurate in showcasing whose gonna win since alot of the players are the same but keep living in the past my friend . . . what was it '97 the last time you all won a playoff game? its been so long im kinda losing count now.

go skins!!!![/quote]
Ugh, back to THAT again. We've come full circle again bro! See ya' Sunday.

53Fan 09-26-2008 01:19 PM

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When confronted with the FACTS..........run?

sandtrapjack 09-26-2008 01:24 PM

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[quote=53Fan;481289]When confronted with the FACTS..........run?[/quote]
You tell me.
Every time you bring up a fact, I bring up another fact that contradicts yours.

Then you are the one that "runs" back to the play off losses by Dallas.

If you would like to continue our friendly little debate, please come up with something ORIGINAL. Other wise by repeating things that have already been said waste your time and mine.

53Fan 09-26-2008 03:38 PM

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I can honestly say without hesitation that your blind dedication to ignorance amazes me. I suppose that is a requirement to be a cowgirl fan. If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest man in the world sandtrap. As for running, when it is brought to your attention that the Skins have won 4 of the last 6 against the girls, which is relevant, you RUN back about 10 years with "15 of the last 20 ". How is that relevant to this Sundays game? I would think the RECENT games would be more of an indication of how this weeks game would turn out. Like someone said on another thread, if Cooley were on your team and witten were on ours, your argument on what stats are important would be completely different. Your bias clouds your arguments. I'm sure you don't agree and you'll come up with some reasons why what I'm saying is wrong. I suppose if Cooley had a smaller nose , maybe he would be as good as Witten. ( Cooley- Witten Thread ) Personally, this is getting boring. Sunday can't get here soon enough.

sandtrapjack 09-26-2008 03:50 PM

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[quote=53Fan;481367]I can honestly say without hesitation that your blind dedication to ignorance amazes me. I suppose that is a requirement to be a cowgirl fan. If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest man in the world sandtrap. As for running, when it is brought to your attention that the Skins have won 4 of the last 6 against the girls, which is relevant, you RUN back about 10 years with "15 of the last 20 ". How is that relevant to this Sundays game? I would think the RECENT games would be more of an indication of how this weeks game would turn out. Like someone said on another thread, if Cooley were on your team and witten were on ours, your argument on what stats are important would be completely different. Your bias clouds your arguments. I'm sure you don't agree and you'll come up with some reasons why what I'm saying is wrong. I suppose if Cooley had a smaller nose , maybe he would be as good as Witten. ( Cooley- Witten Thread ) Personally, this is getting boring. Sunday can't get here soon enough.[/quote]
Well with that post at least we cleared one thing up.

We now know who the "unarmed" one is. Thanks for clearing that up.

53Fan 09-26-2008 04:04 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
Since cowgirl fans never shut up. You may have the last word small one. Enjoy the game. I'm done.

pbhawks45 09-26-2008 05:10 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;481182]I'm not so sure about that... in the playoffs last year against NY he was pretty damn rattled.[/quote]

He really was. I love me some Romo, but when I was at that Giants game, he started yelling and getting mad at the O-Line and receivers. Granted, he was getting little protection, and Patrick Crayton dropped a pass that could have been a TD, and at least brought them deep into Giants territory, but you can't explode at your teammates like that.

Saying this, the Giants D pretty much did the exact same thing to the Pats and Brady in the SB, so it's not like Romo was the only one getting flustered.

This is going to be a good game, hopefully. I still have painful memories from that 35-7 romping you guys gave us a couple years ago.

I can't exactly remember what song it was, but almost EVERY Redskin fan at the stadium was singing it. That sucked. Must've been freaking sweet though as a Redskin fan, though!

NM Redskin 09-26-2008 05:11 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;481251]And another fact for you 15 of the last 20![/quote]

Here's another, 2-0 in playoffs vs Cowboys.:tongue

D'BOYZ 09-26-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
OK let's settle this thread

FACT

Both Teams haven't even gone to a Superbowl in the past 12 years, heck they haven't play a NFC championship game so until one of us do it Both team suck

GMScud 09-26-2008 05:30 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;481251]And another fact for you 15 of the last 20![/quote]

It's a what have you done for me lately league. 4 outta the last 6 sounds good to me. Would have been 5 of 6 if we didn't get hosed on that INT in Dallas last year. You downplay the significance of your playoff drought. I say it's huge. And it's probably a big reason you've looked so tight and uncomfortable in your '06 and '07 playoff games. Can't take the heat.

Your secondary has ZERO ints this year, and Campbell had his best game of '07 in your house. It's gonna be a great one come Sunday.

pbhawks45 09-26-2008 05:56 PM

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[quote=GMScud;481403]It's a what have you done for me lately league. 4 outta the last 6 sounds good to me. Would have been 5 of 6 if we didn't get hosed on that INT in Dallas last year. You downplay the significance of your playoff drought. I say it's huge. And it's probably a big reason you've looked so tight and uncomfortable in your '06 and '07 playoff games. Can't take the heat.

Your secondary has ZERO ints this year, and Campbell had his best game of '07 in your house. It's gonna be a great one come Sunday.[/quote]

I want to disagree with you, but you're right. This team has many holes, but nobody seems to be talking about how Romo doesn't look as good as he did last year, and even though T.O. has changed (maybe I'm crazy), but I don't know how many games with only 2 catches he can live with.

And the playoffs are a huge monkey on their collective backs. Although I disagree with the comment about the INT (I think you're referring to the Newman pass interference, Washington's DB's had been very physical towards TO, I thought it was a good no-call), I pretty much agree with your premise.

Overall, the Skins have owned the Boys recently.

If they're a true SB contender, they should be able to beat a division rival (a very good team, shame one team from this division won't make the playoffs) on the road.

Skins838891 09-26-2008 06:19 PM

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This is not a reason why we will win or lose, but I love watching this video so much. I laugh my ass off every time.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNO6On7cK1M]YouTube - Terrell Owens crying!![/ame]

GMScud 09-26-2008 06:42 PM

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I see that in addition to Roy Williams being out for Dallas, they will also be without starting FB Deon Anderson. That could be a big deal. Also Tank Johnson is questionable.

On the flip side, Marcus Washington is once again questionable. This guy just can't get healthy. Love the man, love his motor, but I'd be a bit surprised if he's wearing burgundy and gold after this season.

pbhawks45 09-26-2008 06:58 PM

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[quote=GMScud;481414]I see that in addition to Roy Williams being out for Dallas, they will also be without starting FB Deon Anderson. That could be a big deal. Also Tank Johnson is questionable.

On the flip side, Marcus Washington is once again questionable. This guy just can't get healthy. Love the man, love his motor, but I'd be a bit surprised if he's wearing burgundy and gold after this season.[/quote]

Dude, if you remember when Santana Moss burned Roy deep in that 2006 game, you know it's a good thing he's not in the lineup. :)

holcknowsbest 09-26-2008 07:28 PM

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[quote=D'BOYZ;480682]Ok guys I haven't been able to post that much in this important week so here it is the reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose

[B]Why Will The Cowboys Win The Game[/B][LIST=1][*]The Cowboys will make it a shootout, like against philly one Campbell won't be able to catch up.[*]The Redskins won't be able to pressure Romo specially with Taylor out.[*]The Redskins will have to pick their poison between the running game (Barber,Felix) or the different WR (T.O.Witten,Crayton,Austin)and won't be able to stop them.[*]T.O will dominate the secondary he did it last year with 4tds and he always lights it up after a bad week[*]Dallas defense will be on Campbell face all day like NY was on week 1,what's the difference between N.O,Arizona and NY the defense and pressure you get Campbell time to throw with the fast WR he has he will find somebody open So Dallas will do what they do to GB and be in Campbell face all day.[*]Special Teams used to be a weakness for the Cowboys now a strength they will win the position battle which will make it hard for Was to score and easier for the cowboys offense.[/LIST][B]Why Will the Cowboys Lose[/B][LIST=1][*]For some reason they can't show up to the game[*]uhhmmm? can't thing of another one.[/LIST][/quote]

pick our poison??? why did you get so confident in your running game because you put up some numbers against the packers??? listen boss, barber had a f-ing yard against us last year, 1, uno. Its just like you saying the cowboys are gonna win the super bowl........you have to win a playoff game first. Its like you getting up in my face after you caught a 2 yard pass on 3rd and 10..... weak ass shit d'boys, weak ass shit.

holcknowsbest 09-26-2008 07:31 PM

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[quote=pbhawks45;481394]He really was. I love me some Romo, but when I was at that Giants game, he started yelling and getting mad at the O-Line and receivers. Granted, he was getting little protection, and Patrick Crayton dropped a pass that could have been a TD, and at least brought them deep into Giants territory, but you can't explode at your teammates like that.

Saying this, the Giants D pretty much did the exact same thing to the Pats and Brady in the SB, so it's not like Romo was the only one getting flustered.

This is going to be a good game, hopefully. I still have painful memories from that 35-7 romping you guys gave us a couple years ago.

I can't exactly remember what song it was, but almost EVERY Redskin fan at the stadium was singing it. That sucked. Must've been freaking sweet though as a Redskin fan, though![/quote]

thats song was either hail to the redskins or gravediggers by chris pauls which was a remix off of gold diggers.

holcknowsbest 09-26-2008 07:37 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
keys to winning for the skins......

1) make them one dimensional
2) get that skidish cowgirl chucking and ducking like he loves to do
3) run the ball and/or keep your playmakers in the game (portis/moss/cooley)

Zorn on the 4th of July 09-26-2008 08:24 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuzVvN8M188]YouTube - Washington Redskins vs. Dallas Cowboys Miracle Finishes[/url]

The End.

D'BOYZ 09-26-2008 10:22 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=GMScud;481414]I see that in addition to Roy Williams being out for Dallas, they will also be without starting FB Deon Anderson. That could be a big deal. Also Tank Johnson is questionable.

On the flip side, Marcus Washington is once again questionable. This guy just can't get healthy. Love the man, love his motor, but I'd be a bit surprised if he's wearing burgundy and gold after this season.[/quote]


This is so funny, can you guys stick to one storry please. If Roy is starting a SS then we're going to lose because he's such a big liability and now that he's injured it's a reason why we're going to lose because our secondary wil be affected by not having him there. C'mon

D'BOYZ 09-26-2008 10:35 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=holcknowsbest;481420]pick our poison??? why did you get so confident in your running game because you put up some numbers against the packers??? listen boss, barber had a f-ing yard against us last year, 1, uno. Its just like you saying the cowboys are gonna win the super bowl........you have to win a playoff game first. Its like you getting up in my face after you caught a 2 yard pass on 3rd and 10..... weak ass shit d'boys, weak ass shit.[/quote]


dude read the next post I was just making fun to start a rival debate don't take it personally... just because your team has a better chance to be the first team to win 3 Super Bowls in a row than beating us on Sunday. That doesn't mean I'm attacking you.

It isn't my fault Snyder sucks at picking Free Agents and it's one step above Matt Millen in his drafting skills but hey! who's judging you .....

MAN I LOVE RIVALRY WEEK.... some good old Smack talk

GMScud 09-26-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=D'BOYZ;481450]This is so funny, can you guys stick to one storry please. If Roy is starting a SS then we're going to lose because he's such a big liability and now that he's injured it's a reason why we're going to lose because our secondary wil be affected by not having him there. C'mon[/quote]

Excuse me? Did I say anything about Roy being a liability or a reason you would win or lose? All I said was he isn't playing. What I did say is a potentially big deal is your FB being out for the game.

And even if I had commented on the impact of Roy being out, I was never one of the folks who said he was a "liability" when he got injured.

Bluezz DC 09-27-2008 10:31 PM

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[quote=GMScud;480683]You emulate your teams annoying arrogance. You guys were the "best team in the league" during the regular season last year and we played a damn good game in Dallas that was a bad call on an INT away from going our way. Hopefully Romo's little shit-eating smirk gets kicked in the dirt.[/quote] Uuumm, actually Dallas was not "the best team in the league" last regular season. The Pats were.

Bluezz DC 09-27-2008 10:36 PM

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[quote=horse;480709]Thats right they had some ref help also.[/quote]But your team never benefits from a bad call or non-call in a game? Mmmmkay.

Bluezz DC 09-27-2008 10:41 PM

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[quote=DirtyLandry;480692]I like our class act character guys assembled by a hall of fame coach over a bunch of rogue thugs thrown together by a meddling owner.[/quote] I agree. He meddled them to three SB wins. Maybe Danny Boy needs to do a little meddling. The correct way though.

Bluezz DC 09-27-2008 10:55 PM

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[quote=horse;480713]Well in this rivalry who was the last to get the snot beat out of them, Oh that's right it was the cowgirls 27-6. I also remember so fishy officiating in the one you guys sqeaked out. So far you guys look outstanding, But get ready for a fight.[/quote]Why is it when the Skins win, it's a hard fought win or a great victory. But..........when they lose, it was bad officiating or they gave the game away, or some other lame excuse. If that was Springs that intercepted Romo's pass at the end instead of T-New snatching JC's pass, you would have said "Springs made a helluva play". You wouldn't have brought up any fishy officiating. Come on man, keep it real.

The second game T.O. along with another 3 or 4 starters didn't play. IMO, that game didn't mean much to the Cowboys, but I think they played to win. As well as the Skins were playing at that point, I think they would have still beat Dallas with everybody playing. I can't sit back and honestly say that the Skins were lucky or make up some other BS excuses. They beat the hell out of Dallas. Point blank. The Skins lost the first game, because Dallas made more plays than they did. Period. When you lose games, it's not because of luck or refs, every game, the other teams get paid to win ballgames too.

memphisskin 09-28-2008 09:08 AM

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[quote=Bluezz DC;481612] Point blank. The Skins lost the first game, because Dallas made more plays than they did. Period. When you lose games, it's not because of luck or refs, every game, the other teams get paid to win ballgames too.[/quote]

When it comes down to it you're right. But there's always an exception, like Hochuli screwing the Chargers in the Bronco game this year.

Can't wait til 4:15, I'm hoping the Skins start lighting the Boys up around 4:20...

vaoutlaws2006 09-28-2008 09:47 AM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
reasons cowboys could win:

1- they score more than 30
2- we cant find a way to contain TO
3- our special teams dont show up today

reasons cowboys lose:

1- they simply overlook the redskins
2- Romo or TO get hurt
3- JC lights up that secondary

with all that said this game is simply all about who can execute in all three phases of the game and for 4 quarters. but if i a was in vegas i think ill take the 11 pts and take the redskins hands down. Hail skins.

Daseal 09-28-2008 10:16 AM

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I disagree vaoutlaws. I think the run game will determine the game. I like the Springs / TO matchup. It's always a hard fought and normally fairly even matchup. Marion Barber destroying us up the middle for 5 YPC is my concern. I think we need to take our chances with their pass game, don't let them run all day on us. Romo isn't exactly an error-free type QB. He's a gunslinger that will take chances, that could benefit us. It could also burn us terribly, but still.

vaoutlaws2006 09-28-2008 11:29 AM

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[quote=Daseal;481656]I disagree vaoutlaws. I think the run game will determine the game. I like the Springs / TO matchup. It's always a hard fought and normally fairly even matchup. Marion Barber destroying us up the middle for 5 YPC is my concern. I think we need to take our chances with their pass game, don't let them run all day on us. Romo isn't exactly an error-free type QB. He's a gunslinger that will take chances, that could benefit us. It could also burn us terribly, but still.[/quote]


You made a good point about Romo....but if you ask me I have them simply looking past us. It going to take a perfect storm by us in all phases of the game to win. But if we can contain the dallas offense and keep it relatively low scoring i like our chances.

Bluezz DC 09-28-2008 12:13 PM

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[quote=memphisskin;481647]When it comes down to it you're right. But there's always an exception, like Hochuli screwing the Chargers in the Bronco game this year.

Can't wait til 4:15, I'm hoping the Skins start lighting the Boys up around 4:20...[/quote] I definetly can't argue with you there!!!!

JGisLordOfTheRings 09-28-2008 12:14 PM

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[quote=memphisskin;481647]When it comes down to it you're right. But there's always an exception, like Hochuli screwing the Chargers in the Bronco game this year.

[B]Can't wait til 4:15, I'm hoping the Skins start lighting the Boys up around 4:20...[/B][/quote]

Thats about the time I hope to be lighting up too. lol:Smoker:

:dallas::dallas::dallas:

Bluezz DC 09-28-2008 12:27 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=vaoutlaws2006;481665]You made a good point about Romo....but if you ask me I have them simply looking past us. It going to take a perfect storm by us in all phases of the game to win. But if we can contain the dallas offense and keep it relatively low scoring i like our chances.[/quote] Why would they be looking past the Skins? Two reasons that won't happen. First, Dallas will still remember the beating they took at FedEx Field. Second, most teams overlook a team when they are playing a tough team the following week. I could see if Dallas was playing the Pats, Broncos, Giants, or somebody like that next week, but they are playing the Bengals.

Do you think they would really overlook the Redskins for the Bengals? I doubt it.

53Fan 09-28-2008 01:19 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=vaoutlaws2006;481665]You made a good point about Romo....but if you ask me I have them simply looking past us. It going to take a perfect storm by us in all phases of the game to win. But if we can contain the dallas offense and keep it relatively low scoring i like our chances.[/quote]

That would be like us overlooking Dallas at our place. Ain't gonna happen.

vaoutlaws2006 09-28-2008 02:26 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=Bluezz DC;481685]Why would they be looking past the Skins? Two reasons that won't happen. First, Dallas will still remember the beating they took at FedEx Field. Second, most teams overlook a team when they are playing a tough team the following week. I could see if Dallas was playing the Pats, Broncos, Giants, or somebody like that next week, but they are playing the Bengals.

Do you think they would really overlook the Redskins for the Bengals? I doubt it.[/quote]


i guess i should have used a better way to describe the point i was trying to make. Its not that they are overlooking us with the thought of playing the bengals next weekend...but the fact that everyone left us for dead after facing the gmen opening week. As i said in my last post if we can keep it low scoring i like our chances.

Duffman003 09-28-2008 07:25 PM

Re: Reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose
 
[quote=D'BOYZ;480682]Ok guys I haven't been able to post that much in this important week so here it is the reason Why the Cowboys will Win or Lose

[B]Why Will The Cowboys Win The Game[/B][LIST=1][*]The Cowboys will make it a shootout, like against philly one Campbell won't be able to catch up.[*]The Redskins won't be able to pressure Romo specially with Taylor out.[*]The Redskins will have to pick their poison between the running game (Barber,Felix) or the different WR (T.O.Witten,Crayton,Austin)and won't be able to stop them.[*]T.O will dominate the secondary he did it last year with 4tds and he always lights it up after a bad week[*]Dallas defense will be on Campbell face all day like NY was on week 1,what's the difference between N.O,Arizona and NY the defense and pressure you get Campbell time to throw with the fast WR he has he will find somebody open So Dallas will do what they do to GB and be in Campbell face all day.[*]Special Teams used to be a weakness for the Cowboys now a strength they will win the position battle which will make it hard for Was to score and easier for the cowboys offense.[/LIST][B]Why Will the Cowboys Lose[/B][LIST=1][*]For some reason they can't show up to the game[*]uhhmmm? can't thing of another one.[/LIST][/quote]

I guess they didn't show up

MTK 09-28-2008 07:27 PM

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Retarded thread LOL

How bout dem Cowgirls!?


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