Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

[quote=SmootSmack;489242]First and foremost, Brooks is the team's punter though. Holding is certainly important, but it's secondary to his job punting the ball.

I forget the rules, but could they practice squad Brooks for a while?[/quote]

I think so, but even if they did someone will scoop him up and that team may look like a genius when he gets a fresh start and starts hitting 50 yarders.
We can't risk that.

and sorry about not doing my homework on available punters.
I copied someone elses stuff.
bad on me.

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[quote=Jake2008;489234]I love how people claim that punting is the easiest job in the world. There are 32 teams and how many have great punters. There are 100s of punters coming out of college every year, so every team should have a great punter according to the 'easiest job in the NFL' theory. Yet many teams are always searching for a better punter.

Right now I don't see any option but to stick with Durant and see if he can work thru it. I think coaching is a big part of it also, so maybe they need to change what they are doing or get a new coach to work with him.[/quote]


It is the easiest position in the NFL. The NFL has some of the best atheletes and are the cream of the crop. The fact that there aren't a ton of good punters, doesn't change the fact that it is much easier to be a punter than a QB,WR, or even field goal kicker. Plus who the hell grows up wanting to be a punter? That could be a reason why there arent may quality punters, no one really wants to do it.

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

[quote=Stacks42;489253]It is the easiest position in the NFL. The NFL has some of the best atheletes and are the cream of the crop. The fact that there aren't a ton of good punters, doesn't change the fact that it is much easier to be a punter than a QB,WR, or even field goal kicker. Plus who the hell grows up wanting to be a punter? That could be a reason why there arent may quality punters, no one really wants to do it.[/quote]

Ok then according to your theory, why even waste a position on a punter. Heck just let one of the best athletes go punt the ball. It is so easy and they only have to do it a handful of times in a game so just let your best athlete go out there and punt it. You save a position on the team for something else and you now have a guaranteed great punter. Problem solved. :)

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

He had 1 good punt- but really...is there an EASIER position in football from the college to pro level?

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Well, somebody has to get fired after to losing to one of the worst teams in football.

Can't fire Chris Cooley for not putting the ball away after a nice catch and run.

Can't fire Casey Rabach for a muffed snap that caused Jason Campbell to fumble the ball.

Can't fire Jason Campbell for mishandling the muffed snap from Rabach or the pass that got tipped in the air that Pete Kendall attempted to run.

Can't fire Pete Kendall for catching the tip pass, trying his best Barry Sanders impression, coughed up the ball trying to put a move on a linebacker.

Can't fire Chris Horton for failing to blitz the quarterback on the big pass play near the end of the game when his assignment was to blitz the quarterback.

Can't fire Leigh Torrence for not making a play on the ball on the big pass play.

Can't fire LaRon Landry or London Fletcher for dropping interceptions.

But you can fire the punter. Because we all know, it was the punter that lost this game.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/12/AR2008101202118.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

vinnie cerato agrees.follow the link.
[URL="http://http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/cerrato_there_will_be_a_new_pu.html"]http://http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/cerrato_there_will_be_a_new_pu.html[/URL]

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/New_Punter_Coming_After_Brooks__Sub_Par_Outing_25123.jsp]New Punter Coming After Brooks' Sub-Par Outing[/url]

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[quote=skinsnut;489248]I think so, but even if they did someone will scoop him up and that team may look like a genius when he gets a fresh start and starts hitting 50 yarders.
We can't risk that.

and sorry about not doing my homework on available punters.
I copied someone elses stuff.
bad on me.[/quote]

There's also the possibility some team will scoop him up and he will struggle with them as well. It's a chance you take.

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I honestly don't think anyone out there will be falling over themselves to pick up Brooks right now. We could probably cut him and pick him up again next summer to give him another shot. I guess the writing is on the wall for Brooks... too bad but he didn't do much to save himself. It's only a matter of time before he really does cost us a game all by himself.

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[quote=Jake2008;489266]Ok then according to your theory, why even waste a position on a punter. Heck just let one of the best athletes go punt the ball. It is so easy and they only have to do it a handful of times in a game so just let your best athlete go out there and punt it. You save a position on the team for something else and you now have a guaranteed great punter. Problem solved. :)[/quote]

Well im guessing that you are/or were a punter. The question isnt why waste a position on a punter, its why waste a draft pick on a punter?

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Zorn's Reaction:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/zorn_on_the_punting_situation.html]Zorn on the Punting Situation - Redskins Insider[/url]

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Sounds like Cerrato is starting the ole BS injury story so they can possibly put him on IR.
Cerrato has invested in him and does want to lose him.
The kid is young and is feeling the pressure. If he is good they need to hang on to him until he works his way out of it.

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[quote=Defensewins;489345]Sounds like Cerrato is starting the ole BS injury story so they can possibly put him on IR.
Cerrato has invested in him and does want to lose him.
The kid is young and is feeling the pressure. If he is good they need to hang on to him until he works his way out of it.[/quote]

Maybe IR is'nt a bad idea. That way we don't lose him.

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I absolutely hated wasting a 6th round pick on Brooks, I thought he was outperformed by Frost in preseason and he shouldn't have even made the final 53. I am glad that Cerrato is realizing what a horrible mistake this was and cutting ties now.

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Cut the SOB, a high school punter can punt 39 yards avg and 32 yards net. Cut your losses and try someone else out because this Brooks kid is god awful.

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Can Jason campbell punt? Maybe he can be another Danny White/Tom Tupa

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

[quote=Defensewins;489345]Sounds like Cerrato is starting the ole BS injury story so they can possibly put him on IR.
Cerrato has invested in him and does want to lose him.
The kid is young and is feeling the pressure. If he is good they need to hang on to him until he works his way out of it.[/quote]

I think it's more likely the following will happen

* Injury Settlement:
occasionally a team has a player on IR but agrees with that player to a cash settlement in exchange for releasing that player. The team benefits by limiting further financial responsibility and player carrying costs while the player benefits both by receiving cash and by becoming eligible to sign with another team and begin playing as soon as physically capable (perhaps even during the same season)

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

A quote from Zorn from the Above article:

"Here's the deal, I would say his position's in jeopardy because of performance, not because of injury, because of performance," Zorn said. "


At last, some honesty.

Brooks' gotta go.

He's hurting us every game.

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

A Good Punt Now And Then Does Not Make Up For All The Extremely Poor Ones-send Him Down The Road

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I've heard the Redskins have been looking at Brooks having some kind of injury which will result in his being put on injured reserve. So another punter for the rest of the year is probably a given for this year. If he is indeed injured, then he'll get another chance next year.

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[quote=Stacks42;489328]Well im guessing that you are/or were a punter. The question isnt why waste a position on a punter, its why waste a draft pick on a punter?[/quote]

No I just find it funny how all the arm chair quarterbacks we have can make this conclusion from their lazy boy as they lay back watching football while drinking their beer and eating their snacks. :)

I am sure being a consistent punter is not nearly as easy as all of us experts think it is. That is all I am pointing out.

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Bad move in the off season.

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call in Sammy Baugh... cant we put him on IR? so no one else can touch him? until atleast this heals completely and have competition next season?

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Keep the kid! No props for the punt that landed inside the 5?

What the hell are we doing punting anyway? Geez, its not like our coverage would stop anybody half the time anyway.

Plus, I like the drama.

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well if were going to try out punters we need to hurry,the cowboys punter broke his foot and will be out 6-8 weeks

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[quote=CA_Redskins;489467]Keep the kid! No props for the punt that landed inside the 5?

What the hell are we doing punting anyway? Geez, its not like our coverage would stop anybody half the time anyway.

Plus, I like the drama.[/quote]

Great, he landed one inside the 5. He's still got the worst net avg and distance, etc in the league. He's finished.

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[quote=RFKRat;489686]Great, he landed one inside the 5. He's still got the worst net avg and distance, etc in the league. He's finished.[/quote]

they are'nt cutting him,they are gonna place him on IR according to the redskins website.

Re: The Official Cut Durant Brooks Thread
 

[quote=CA_Redskins;489467]Keep the kid! No props for the punt that landed inside the 5?

What the hell are we doing punting anyway? Geez, its not like our coverage would stop anybody half the time anyway.

Plus, I like the drama.[/quote]

If I'm correct the one inside the 5 was not a very good kick but had a very good bounce. There is no way to really judge the coverage when he is not even giving them a fair chance to get the coverage going down field.

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but you have try and not hit a 26 yard punt every third time.

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[quote=RMSkins;489347]I absolutely hated wasting a 6th round pick on Brooks, I thought he was outperformed by Frost in preseason and he shouldn't have even made the final 53. I am glad that Cerrato is realizing what a horrible mistake this was and cutting ties now.[/quote]

Agreed. Looks like he's officially been "released".

I think Frost got a bit of a bad rap here. I was fine with him as our punter. I feel like he got better as the year went on last year and was especially good in the Bears game. Hester ripped through every team last year and he did zero against us. Frost was a big reason for that.

Then we spend a 6th round pick on a new punter which I do think was a waste. Look what we got with Horton in the 7th round! Then from all accounts Frost outperforms in the preseason but we still cut him loose to save some face and back up Vinny's prized draft pick.

The whole thing was a mess. Glad it's over. Time to move on...

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Frost is currently 26th in the league in net average.

Brooks was a bust, but it's not like we lost a gem in Frost. He's a dime a dozen type of punter.

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[quote=Mattyk72;490338]Brooks was a bust, but it's not like we lost a gem in Frost. He's a dime a dozen type of punter.[/quote]

Can't argue with this, I just hate wasting a draft pick on a punter.

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I hear ya, but the draft is such a crapshoot especially in the later rounds. You win some, you lose some.

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[quote=Mattyk72;490338]Frost is currently 26th in the league in net average.

Brooks was a bust, but it's not like we lost a gem in Frost. He's a dime a dozen type of punter.[/quote]

How can you say someone is a bust when they've only played a few games? I could understand if he'd been around for a few years and had constantly been inconsistent but rookie inconsistency can be (or at least should be) ironed out before the end of the season.

Should we continue to waste time on him instead of bringing in at least a proven consistent punter? No. But I think it's a bit rash to throw a bust sign around his neck so soon.

But I don't really care whether or not we release him. Hell he's just a punter, he doesn't make or break games (unless you kick a 26 yard punt...)

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Did anyone see who Dallas brought in to punt now that McBriar is done for the year? It would be galling if Brooks landed there and FINALLY learned to be consistent. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on their short list since the best performance of his brief Redskins career was the game at Dallas.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;490348]How can you say someone is a bust when they've only played a few games? I could understand if he'd been around for a few years and had constantly been inconsistent but rookie inconsistency can be (or at least should be) ironed out before the end of the season.

Should we continue to waste time on him instead of bringing in at least a proven consistent punter? No. But I think it's a bit rash to throw a bust sign around his neck so soon.

But I don't really care whether or not we release him. Hell he's just a punter, he doesn't make or break games (unless you kick a 26 yard punt...)[/quote]

Let me clarify, he was a bust to this point.

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[quote=SouperMeister;490879]Did anyone see who Dallas brought in to punt now that McBriar is done for the year? It would be galling if Brooks landed there and FINALLY learned to be consistent. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on their short list since the best performance of his brief Redskins career was the game at Dallas.[/quote]

We placed him on injured/waivers which means if he clears waivers(he might have already) then we can IR him. Effectively tying him up. But seriously no one is going to want this guy mid-season anyways. He'll certainly get a shot in training camp next year but no one is going bring him in now and expect him to be magically better at punting in the NFL. Hell dallas can have him. I'll take the risk that he ends up figuring it out since there's a far better chance he'll just stink for them like he did for us.

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[quote=SouperMeister;490879]Did anyone see who Dallas brought in to punt now that McBriar is done for the year? [B]It would be galling if Brooks landed there and FINALLY learned to be consistent[/B]. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on their short list since the best performance of his brief Redskins career was the game at Dallas.[/quote]

After 6 games the light is going to suddenly turn on for him? I doubt it. I think he'll get some looks next year in camp, but for this year he's probably going to be sitting home.

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The new punter was no better than Brooks. Hopefully he'll improve from the performance in the Browns game. I was ready the blame the missed field goal on his hold, but somebody said the snap was high, the holder got it down and in position, but it was just a bad kick.

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You must not have watched the game. Plackemeier's punts looked a TON better than Brooks'. They had height and distance, two things that Brooks seemed to have left in college. Also, 2 punts inside the 20 and a touchback too. No 26-yard shanks that go out at mid-field. He kicked one 48 yards. His career average is 42.1 yards, a very respectable stat. Brooks' average so far was 39 per.

He may have had a role in that bad FG with his hold, but that was something that Brooks was consistently horrible at. Any improvement will help and I'm sure Plack will get comfortable with the new center he's working with.

BIG improvement so far, but then again it was tough to be as bad as Brooks was.