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redskins411 11-04-2008 11:57 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497711]Because, as a die hard Skins fan, the opportunity for season tix was too good to pass up. The first season I had them I was in the LAST ROW of the upper bowl. The seats were less expensive then, I didn't have kids and my disposable income was greater. Each year our seats have crept forward (and become more expensive) as better seats became available. After several years, the seats are now in the 15th Row of the lower bowl. I am trying to hold onto them through these lean years until I can, again, actually afford to go to the games. If I skip a year, not only do I lose the lower bowl seats, I go to the back of the waiting list.

I don't buy them them to sell them - I buy them them now and so that I can enjoy them in the future when I can take my kids to games. When I could afford them, I went to every home game - usually I would invite a friend for whom I would eat the cost of their ticket. Hopefully, in the future, I again will be ablle to do that.

So - can I put you down for the $2,200 due next year? How about you 411? You guys gonna pony up the dough so that I can hold onto these seats I have invested time and money into? No? Shocking. Guess I'll have to find some other way to do that.[/quote]

I already have tickets and I make an effort to go to all of the games. I don't need your tickets. You have nice seats. Give me rights to your lower bowl seats and I will gladly give you rights to my upper deck seats.

irish 11-04-2008 11:57 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497711]Because, as a die hard Skins fan, the opportunity for season tix was too good to pass up. The first season I had them I was in the LAST ROW of the upper bowl. The seats were less expensive then, I didn't have kids and my disposable income was greater. Each year our seats have crept forward (and become more expensive) as better seats became available. After several years, the seats are now in the 15th Row of the lower bowl. I am trying to hold onto them through these lean years until I can, again, actually afford to go to the games. If I skip a year, not only do I lose the lower bowl seats, I go to the back of the waiting list.

I don't buy them them to sell them - I buy them them now and so that I can enjoy them in the future when I can take my kids to games. When I could afford them, I went to every home game - usually I would invite a friend for whom I would eat the cost of their ticket. Hopefully, in the future, I again will be ablle to do that.

So - can I put you down for the $2,200 due next year? How about you 411? You guys gonna pony up the dough so that I can hold onto these seats I have invested time and money into? No? Shocking. Guess I'll have to find some other way to do that.[/quote]

I think something else people dont realize is that depending where the seats are in the level means they can cost more. For example club level seats at the 50 cost more than club level seats at the 10.

BleedBurgundy 11-04-2008 12:07 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497711]Because, as a die hard Skins fan, the opportunity for season tix was too good to pass up. The first season I had them I was in the LAST ROW of the upper bowl. The seats were less expensive then, I didn't have kids and my disposable income was greater. Each year our seats have crept forward (and become more expensive) as better seats became available. After several years, the seats are now in the 15th Row of the lower bowl. I am trying to hold onto them through these lean years until I can, again, actually afford to go to the games. If I skip a year, not only do I lose the lower bowl seats, I go to the back of the waiting list.

I don't buy them them to sell them - I buy them them now and so that I can enjoy them in the future when I can take my kids to games. When I could afford them, I went to every home game - usually I would invite a friend for whom I would eat the cost of their ticket. Hopefully, in the future, I again will be ablle to do that.

[B]So - can I put you down for the $2,200 due next year? [/B] How about you 411? You guys gonna pony up the dough so that I can hold onto these seats I have invested time and money into? No? Shocking. Guess I'll have to find some other way to do that.[/quote]

I've never made the commitment to buy a full seasons' worth of tickets for all of the reasons you stated. I know that I can't afford either the time or the money to make all/most home games. So I don't, I just pick them up on Stub or Craigslist when I get the chance. And, by the way, I must have missed you offering them on here as I would have been more than happy to take them off of your hands for this game. I actually had a post up for the past month and a half looking for tickets to this game that weren't jacked up beyond reason.

Gmanc711 11-04-2008 12:13 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497711]Because, as a die hard Skins fan, the opportunity for season tix was too good to pass up. The first season I had them I was in the LAST ROW of the upper bowl. The seats were less expensive then, I didn't have kids and my disposable income was greater. Each year our seats have crept forward (and become more expensive) as better seats became available. After several years, the seats are now in the 15th Row of the lower bowl. I am trying to hold onto them through these lean years until I can, again, actually afford to go to the games. If I skip a year, not only do I lose the lower bowl seats, I go to the back of the waiting list.

I don't buy them them to sell them - I buy them them now and so that I can enjoy them in the future when I can take my kids to games. When I could afford them, I went to every home game - usually I would invite a friend for whom I would eat the cost of their ticket. Hopefully, in the future, I again will be ablle to do that.

So - can I put you down for the $2,200 due next year? How about you 411? You guys gonna pony up the dough so that I can hold onto these seats I have invested time and money into? No? Shocking. Guess I'll have to find some other way to do that.[/quote]

I'm currently in the last row of the upper bowl, and if we decide to renew, I want to stay there. Those seats are money. We are right in the shade for the early games, I can stand up the whole time without anyone bothering me...unless I'm going down to another level, I wanna stay put.

bigmarley4 11-04-2008 12:26 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;497705]If you wanted to attend every home game, then you wouldn't be selling the tickets. What is this whole "taking a loss" thing anyway? If you buy the tickets for x amount of dollars, then you are getting that commodity in return, you're not "taking a loss." I hate the whole "tickets as an investment" thing. [B]What you really mean is that you want the OPTION of attending any or all of the home games for only face value but then you want to be able to sell any tickets you don't use to any one, skins fan or not.[/B] Personally I disagree with that because it lends itself to situations like that crap we all had to sit through last night. Obviously that's not an issue for you, it's a free country, do what you want. I just think it sucks.[/quote]

Bingo. I'd like to attend every home game. This year I've only missed the Cards game, and I am hopeful *fingers crossed* I can make it to every other home game. What I would never do is go on to craigslist or stubhub for every single home game I am able to go to, go through the hassle of finding and buying tickets in random seats at varying prices, then having to secure a parking pass. I don't understand why you think it is such a bad thing to own season tickets and sell them when you cannot attend? Again, this whole issue is mitigated if Skins fans WANT to go to the game, and do what it takes to do so.

53Fan 11-04-2008 12:30 PM

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If I offended anyone last night, I apologize. The sight of all those Steeler fans in our house combined with the frustration of seeing the offense, once again, failing to try to go deep, at least until the end of the game, was more than I could handle at that moment. Just like BleedBurgundy, I don't understand why people buy tickets and then justify selling them to the other team because they can't afford them. I don't have season tickets and never have because....I can't afford them and the way I understand it, there's a long, long waiting list. I go to StubHub for a particular game I want, and can afford to see. Maybe the problem is I don't understand the deal with season tickets because I've never had one. But to imply that I, or any other fan, should buy your ticket because you bought it but can't afford it seems silly to me. Anyway, just like the election today, we all have differences of opinion, but what brings us all together is our love for the Redskins and I would rather concentrate on what brings us together instead of what separates us. Hail To The Redskins!! Dallas you better Watch The F**k Out.

Gmanc711 11-04-2008 12:30 PM

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[quote=bigmarley4;497729]Bingo. I'd like to attend every home game. This year I've only missed the Cards game, and I am hopeful *fingers crossed* I can make it to every other home game. What I would never do is go on to craigslist or stubhub for every single home game I am able to go to, go through the hassle of finding and buying tickets in random seats at varying prices, then having to secure a parking pass. I don't understand why you think it is such a bad thing to own season tickets and sell them when you cannot attend? Again, this whole issue is mitigated if Skins fans WANT to go to the game, and do what it takes to do so.[/quote]

Exactly. I mean I understand peoples point if people are buying season tickets soley based on the reasons of selling them for a huge profit. But if a fan can't make it, I dont understand what the issue is. Its not like its a 5 dollar ticket, you're just going to give away a bunch of 70.00 tickets?

firstdown 11-04-2008 12:46 PM

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[quote=firstdown;497714]So your telling people to give up their season tickets so they can buy them from someone else who has season tickets? There will always be tickets to buy no matter who has the season tickets so that does not solve anything. You think all season ticket holders are going to go to all home games and eat any game they don't attend? If that was the case then places like Stubhud and these travle companies would be ot of business.
Here look how many tickets are for sale in Pitsburg's criagslist Hine's field.
[URL="http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/tix/"]pittsburgh tickets classifieds - craigslist[/URL]

Try clicking any games tones of tickets for sale at Hine's field.
[URL="http://www.stubhub.com/pittsburgh-steelers-tickets/?osid=nfl_home-page_sp"]Pittsburgh Steelers Tickets - Steelers Tickets at StubHub![/URL]

Maybe it just that Stealer fans are not so cheap and actually buy the tickets.[/quote]
Like I stated here its an issue that all stadiums have and last night more Stealer fans wanted the tickets more than the Redskins fans.

JoeRedskin 11-04-2008 12:57 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;497719]I've never made the commitment to buy a full seasons' worth of tickets for all of the reasons you stated. I know that I can't afford either the time or the money to make all/most home games. So I don't, I just pick them up on Stub or Craigslist when I get the chance. And, by the way, I must have missed you offering them on here as I would have been more than happy to take them off of your hands for this game. I actually had a post up for the past month and a half looking for tickets to this game that weren't jacked up beyond reason.[/quote]

I didn't post them for this game, I sold them as a block. I can't afford to carry the debt for that period of time. Plus, being strapped economically, I had no idea whether the Skins what the demand for Skins tix would be in April and couldn't take the economic risk.

"Jacked up beyond reason"? Sorry - in your opinion, season tix holders trying to hold onto their seats from year to year should absorb the market losses for games where there is no interest AND THEN sell at below market value for those not willing to make the commitment early. Why do I owe this to you or anyone else? I made my choices by balancing my family's needs, my desire to supporrt the team and the economics of the situation. I would suggest many season tix holders are faced with the same dilemmas.

This is part and parcel of why I am trying to hold onto my seats now and not take too much of loss on them. At some point, I will be able to afford them.
When I can, my losses on the tix through these years will be rewarded by having the abiltiy to afford going to games in great seats at a reasonable cost. I am buying early so that in the future I can pay a lower cost. THAT's why I am making the commitment. If you have a better plan, I would love to hear it. If the economics of the situation upset you, sorry. Reality bites sometimes.

Prior to the season you could have had these seats or seats to the Dallas game at cost or slightly above. You chose to wait, you chose to leave the seats available to others. It's all part of the deal. It's a market and you made your choices, and I made mine, by balancing our differet interests. Sorry if you can't understand mine.

Do I wish I had the time and money to go to every game? Yup. Is that ever going to be a reality again? Probably not. Should I just let go of my season tix b/c I can't conform to desires of others? I don't think so. Does this make me less of a fan or a D-bag? Again, I don't think so. I am doing the best I can in situation I am in.

redsk1 11-04-2008 01:06 PM

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Ouch...the players didn't really like it much either.

[url]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/11/redskins_on_the_fan_turnout_di.html[/url]

BleedBurgundy 11-04-2008 01:07 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497741]I didn't post them for this game, I sold them as a block. I can't afford to carry the debt for that period of time. Plus, being strapped economically, I had no idea whether the Skins what the demand for Skins tix would be in April and couldn't take the economic risk.

"Jacked up beyond reason"? Sorry - in your opinion, season tix holders trying to hold onto their seats from year to year should absorb the market losses for games where there is no interest AND THEN sell at below market value for those not willing to make the commitment early. Why do I owe this to you or anyone else? I made my choices by balancing my family's needs, my desire to supporrt the team and the economics of the situation. I would suggest many season tix holders are faced with the same dilemmas.

This is part and parcel of why I am trying to hold onto my seats now and not take too much of loss on them. At some point, I will be able to afford them.
When I can, my losses on the tix through these years will be rewarded by having the abiltiy to afford going to games in great seats at a reasonable cost. I am buying early so that in the future I can pay a lower cost. THAT's why I am making the commitment. If you have a better plan, I would love to hear it. If the economics of the situation upset you, sorry. Reality bites sometimes.

Prior to the season you could have had these seats or seats to the Dallas game at cost or slightly above. You chose to wait, you chose to leave the seats available to others. It's all part of the deal. It's a market and you made your choices, and I made mine, by balancing our differet interests. Sorry if you can't understand mine.

Do I wish I had the time and money to go to every game? Yup. Is that ever going to be a reality again? Probably not. Should I just let go of my season tix b/c I can't conform to desires of others? I don't think so. [B]Does this make me less of a fan or a D-bag? Again, I don't think so. I am doing the best I can in situation I am in.[/B][/quote]

To be clear, I meant no insult to you personally, and if you took it that way, I apologize. merely expressing frustration that so many steelers fans literally took away our home field advantage. I think this topic has been exhausted.

JoeRedskin 11-04-2008 01:08 PM

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[quote=redskins411;497716]I already have tickets and I make an effort to go to all of the games. I don't need your tickets. You have nice seats. [B]Give me rights [/B]to your lower bowl seats and I will gladly give you rights to my upper deck seats.[/quote]

"GIVE YOU"?? I have paid out a lot of coin and eaten a lot of tix to have the opportunity to use these seats. I have weathered many a rainy day, sat through crappy games and crappy teams in order to evenatually have these seats. If you are willing to re-imburse me for my investment, I will let have that advantage. But please tell me why you should benefit from my work/losses/investment.

Have you got kids? a mortgage? limited disposable income? Like it or not, the cost of tix requires a balancing of lots of factors. When I was in my 30's making relatively good coiin, my fandom ruled. Nowadays, it has to take a bit of a back seat. Again, I imagine I am not the only season tix going through these machinations.

JoeRedskin 11-04-2008 01:11 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;497746]To be clear, I meant no insult to you personally, and if you took it that way, I apologize. merely expressing frustration that so many steelers fans literally took away our home field advantage. I think this topic has been exhausted.[/quote]

Fair enough. I'll let it go. I too was frustrated at the amount of Steeler fans. It was, however, equally frustrating to listen to many people implicitly accusing other fans of being traitors when, in fact, the economics of the real world make the ideal practically impossible.

53Fan 11-04-2008 01:13 PM

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If you want to hear Tana talk about it , go to the Santana video. Around the 5:14 mark.[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/index.jsp]Washington Redskins[/url]

firstdown 11-04-2008 01:14 PM

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You know if we just win the game we could have watched all those Stealer fans leaving with their heads hung low.

redskins411 11-04-2008 01:20 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497747]"GIVE YOU"?? I have paid out a lot of coin and eaten a lot of tix to have the opportunity to use these seats. I have weathered many a rainy day, sat through crappy games and crappy teams in order to evenatually have these seats. If you are willing to re-imburse me for my investment, I will let have that advantage. But please tell me why you should benefit from my work/losses/investment.

Have you got kids? a mortgage? limited disposable income? Like it or not, the cost of tix requires a balancing of lots of factors. When I was in my 30's making relatively good coiin, my fandom ruled. Nowadays, it has to take a bit of a back seat. Again, I imagine I am not the only season tix going through these machinations.[/quote]

Calm down! If someone is going to PAY $2200 for your tickets. They might as well have the rights. I didn't say for you to give me the tickets. I do have a heavy mortgage, kids, and bills that are out of control. Why would you assume that I didn't? But I called your bluff. End of discussion.

over the mountain 11-04-2008 01:31 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;497506]It was astonishing to see 30,000 terrible towels waving in our own stadium. It was like watching my fiance get defiled on national television. Sorry, but a great many Redskins fans are verified d-bags.[/quote]

The cost of season tickets is out of reach for most die hard fans. Being around DC alot of season tickets are held by corporations, lobbyists, etc and not your average die hard fan who makes 50k a year.

My ex's family/company has 5 front row season tickets and they never go to games or even follow the skins. they sell them for face value to whoever calls them first or dont even use the tickets at all. sadly they probaly represent 10-20% of the season ticket holders down in the lower level.

It is embarrassing but it is what it is, but i cant fault anyone because i didnt sacrifice the little bit of money i have to go to the game.

go skins!!

celts32 11-04-2008 01:43 PM

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Perhaps what everyone is overlooking is that many of the season tickets are infact owned by ticket agencies. I sit in section 419 and I have yet to meet the actual owner of any of the seats in my row and for many of this years home games they have been empty. Last night all those seats throughout the stadium that had been empty every week were probably filled and mostly with Steelers fans. What I am saying is that most of the tickets steeler fans were sitting in were probably not even owned by real redskins fans.

over the mountain 11-04-2008 01:48 PM

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^^^^ ding ding ding ding, alot of season tickets are not even held by fans.

skinsfan_nn 11-04-2008 01:54 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;497768]^^^^ ding ding ding ding,[B] alot of season tickets are not even held by fans[/B].[/quote]


And your basing your 'alot' assumption on just what?

BleedBurgundy 11-04-2008 02:04 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;497758]The cost of season tickets is out of reach for most die hard fans. Being around DC alot of season tickets are held by corporations, lobbyists, etc and not your average die hard fan who makes 50k a year.

My ex's family/company has 5 front row season tickets and they never go to games or even follow the skins. they sell them for face value to whoever calls them first or dont even use the tickets at all. sadly they probaly represent 10-20% of the season ticket holders down in the lower level.

It is embarrassing but it is what it is, but i cant fault anyone because i didnt sacrifice the little bit of money i have to go to the game.

go skins!![/quote]

So that's why you didn't offer me tickets this year. Those were great seats! You need to call that girl back and patch things up. :laughing2

redskins411 11-04-2008 02:05 PM

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[quote=celts32;497764]Perhaps what everyone is overlooking is that many of the season tickets are infact owned by ticket agencies. I sit in section 419 and I have yet to meet the actual owner of any of the seats in my row and for many of this years home games they have been empty. Last night all those seats throughout the stadium that had been empty every week were probably filled and mostly with Steelers fans. What I am saying is that most of the tickets steeler fans were sitting in were probably not even owned by real redskins fans.[/quote]

Good Point. I agree with you. The same thing happens in my section.

over the mountain 11-04-2008 02:25 PM

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;497773]And your basing your 'alot' assumption on just what?[/quote]

my experience from going to a ton of games over the years, what people have told me, what has been said here . . . but your right, my use of "alot" may be overexagerating it but we can agree (given the number of pages this thread has recieved and the ones just like this the past years) that our house gets flooded with opposing fans to a disturbingly noticeable degree.

did we really have to go to a silent count on offense last night?

go skins!!

ps -danny did add those 2-3 rows infront of row 1 a few years ago just for corporate sponsors and the like, not availbale to individual fans.

over the mountain 11-04-2008 02:27 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;497775]So that's why you didn't offer me tickets this year. Those were great seats! You need to call that girl back and patch things up. :laughing2[/quote]

shes all yours if you want her!!!

JoeRedskin 11-04-2008 02:28 PM

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[quote=redskins411;497755]Calm down! If someone is going to PAY $2200 for your tickets. They might as well have the rights. I didn't say for you to give me the tickets. I do have a heavy mortgage, kids, and bills that are out of control. Why would you assume that I didn't? But I called your bluff. End of discussion.[/quote]

You're right. I made an assumption that, like me when I had similar seats, you didn't have kids, mortgages, etc. For that I apologize.

Your post, however, said "give me rights to your seats, and I'll give you rights to mine." To me that indicated you were ignoring everything I had posted before about the financial and time sacrifices I had made to move from seats like yours to my current seats. That was why I was pissed.

CRedskinsRule 11-04-2008 02:45 PM

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[quote=redsk1;497745]Ouch...the players didn't really like it much either.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/11/redskins_on_the_fan_turnout_di.html]Redskins on the Fan Turnout: "Disappointed" - D.C. Sports Bog[/url][/quote]

Maybe the players forgot how many fans went to see the Skins legends at the HOF. I wish Pitt fans hadn't shown up, they do it at Ravens games too, but if the Skins had scored 2 TDS on those first two possesions, the towels would have been gone. Simple as that.

MTK 11-04-2008 02:52 PM

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[quote=redsk1;497745]Ouch...the players didn't really like it much either.

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/11/redskins_on_the_fan_turnout_di.html"]Redskins on the Fan Turnout: "Disappointed" - D.C. Sports Bog[/URL][/quote]

Can't blame them.

And as Wilbon points out this isn't the first time either. Fans of other teams always seem to have a significant presence at FedEx.

firstdown 11-04-2008 03:11 PM

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[quote=celts32;497764]Perhaps what everyone is overlooking is that many of the season tickets are infact owned by ticket agencies. I sit in section 419 and I have yet to meet the actual owner of any of the seats in my row and for many of this years home games they have been empty. Last night all those seats throughout the stadium that had been empty every week were probably filled and mostly with Steelers fans. What I am saying is that most of the tickets steeler fans were sitting in were probably not even owned by real redskins fans.[/quote]
Redskins do not knownly allow ticket agencies to own the tickets from what I understand. What happens is that ticket holders sell their tickets on their own or they sell them as a package to theses ticket agencies. I read last year or maybe the year before that the Skins try to track who is using their tickets and who is just selling them off each year. they are not going after the guy who uses his tickets but sells off a few games rather they want to go after the person who never attends the games and just sells their tickets. Its hard for them to track but the article did say they were slowly finding these people and revoking their tickets.

redsk1 11-04-2008 03:31 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;497796]Can't blame them.

And as Wilbon points out this isn't the first time either. Fans of other teams always seem to have a significant presence at FedEx.[/quote]

Yea, he's right. My 2 cents below:

DC is a transplant town for the most part so your going to have fans of different teams that go to the game. Conversely, the "niche" towns, GB, Pitts, Phili, TB, KC, etc don't have the transplants we do.

The Steelers have been winners for a good 15-20yr stretch and the 70's before that. We really haven't been winners consistently for 16 years or so. That's alot of lost fans. Who do kids generally start rooting for on their own?

Add in the size of our stadium the largest in the nfl. More tickets, more seasons ticket holders that wouldn't have been ticket holders which gives way to the highest bidder for those tix. Corporate America owns a bunch too, I imagine.

It's not easy to go to a game much less 8 homes games a year for seasons ticket holders. Many drive from Richmond, Fredricksburg. I live in Richmond: To go to a Sunday 1pm game, I would usually leave by 8 and get home by 8. A night game, i might not get home til 3 or 4am. Fans of other teams might be willing to do this to get to go see their team once during the year.

Add it all up...lots of Steelers fans at the game.

53Fan 11-04-2008 04:08 PM

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[quote=firstdown;497801]Redskins do not knownly allow ticket agencies to own the tickets from what I understand. What happens is that ticket holders sell their tickets on their own or they sell them as a package to theses ticket agencies. I read last year or maybe the year before that the Skins try to track who is using their tickets and who is just selling them off each year. they are not going after the guy who uses his tickets but sells off a few games rather they want to go after the person who never attends the games and just sells their tickets. [B]It's hard for them to track but the article did say they were slowly finding these people and revoking their tickets.[/B][/quote]

I did'nt know that. Thats good to know. You just brought some light into this dark depression I've been in since the game.

skinsfan_nn 11-04-2008 04:51 PM

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[quote=53Fan;497824]I did'nt know that. Thats good to know. You just brought some light into this dark depression I've been in since the game.[/quote]

This article I believe came out three years ago (In the Post or Times, maybe both). This is very old news.

However, it doesn't appear they have made much if any progress from my stand point.

It's like looking for a needle in a haystack!

Lip service to try to make the ticket holders do the right thing or use the SKINS preferred selling method STUBHUB which is a rip. Or turn your tickets in which would be great so someone that actually wants to use them thats been on the list forever, not flip them can. But then this year with the economy the ticket sales where way down. Thats how so many people I know personally that where on the list for many years were finally able to get there contract thru the Skins ticket office.

T.O.Killa 11-04-2008 06:18 PM

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I have been to most home games over the last three years and I have to say that Fed Ex, always has more fans from other teams than I think is normal. There are so many companies, like the one I work for, that own seats, that are not even Redskins fans. The owner of my company is a Dallas fan, so he puts out contests for the tickets. Well needless to say, this was one of the few times that I did not win the tickets. I was disgusted and embarresed to see all the Pittsburg fans. It was flat out treason. I blame Snyder in some ways for it. The fact is that the average person cant afford to go to the games and that is why you have so many people that dont care about the Redskins that own tickets. I have always said that Snyder may not get the best results from his management style, but at least he tries. With that said, something needs to be done so that we never look like this again. If nothing else, lets take a page from the eagle, and for that matter the Steelers. Lets kick some ones ass, next time we see them wearing an apponents jersey. We have to do something, because I even heard the players saying that the punt block was caused by the noise. Come on, we need to take back our stadium.

Hog1 11-04-2008 06:55 PM

Re: F... Selling Tickets to the Visiting Team
 
AS is well known, DC and the surrounding area's are transient like no other.........

holcknowsbest 11-04-2008 07:13 PM

Re: F... Selling Tickets to the Visiting Team
 
seriously f those people who sold the tickets, seriously there should be a raffle every year for season tickets anyways.......that would solve all the problems with opposing team fans........god knows there are enough of us out there that i am sure the skins would have no problem selling out every year with a raffle......plus if you only had one season of tickets then you would probably attend as many of those games as possible instead of selling them........who cares if it pisses off the ol people who have been going for so long, there time is up, and they are the ones telling you to sit down anyways........i cant stand it, you pay for a ticket then everyone gets mad because you are cheering on you team. i love fed ex and our fans but we do need to make our stadium a little more hostile to opposing teams in stead of being wine and cheese.

firstdown 11-04-2008 07:31 PM

Re: F... Selling Tickets to the Visiting Team
 
[quote=T.O.Killa;497858]I have been to most home games over the last three years and I have to say that Fed Ex, always has more fans from other teams than I think is normal. There are so many companies, like the one I work for, that own seats, that are not even Redskins fans. The owner of my company is a Dallas fan, so he puts out contests for the tickets. Well needless to say, this was one of the few times that I did not win the tickets. I was disgusted and embarresed to see all the Pittsburg fans. It was flat out treason. I blame Snyder in some ways for it. The fact is that the average person cant afford to go to the games and that is why you have so many people that dont care about the Redskins that own tickets. I have always said that Snyder may not get the best results from his management style, but at least he tries. With that said, something needs to be done so that we never look like this again. If nothing else, lets take a page from the eagle, and for that matter the Steelers. Lets kick some ones ass, next time we see them wearing an apponents jersey. We have to do something, because I even heard the players saying that the punt block was caused by the noise. Come on, we need to take back our stadium.[/quote]
First off Steeler fans do not act like Philly fans and they do not attack fans from other teams when they vist Hines field. Talking about price I could not sell my tickets here for $65 dollars on a skins site. Pit fans have been purchasing Skins tickets sense the day the tickets hit the market and have been grabbing them for months now. To say we should attack other fans is pure horse shit and is uncalled for.

Defensewins 11-04-2008 07:42 PM

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If we won this would not matter.

tryfuhl 11-04-2008 08:11 PM

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nvm double

Giantone 11-04-2008 08:15 PM

Re: F... Selling Tickets to the Visiting Team
 
[quote=holcknowsbest;497866]seriously f those people who sold the tickets, seriously there should be a raffle every year for season tickets anyways.......that would solve all the problems with opposing team fans........god knows there are enough of us out there that i am sure the skins would have no problem selling out every year with a raffle......plus if you only had one season of tickets then you would probably attend as many of those games as possible instead of selling them........who cares if it pisses off the ol people who have been going for so long, there time is up, and they are the ones telling you to sit down anyways........i cant stand it, you pay for a ticket then everyone gets mad because you are cheering on you team. i love fed ex and our fans but we do need to make our stadium a little more hostile to opposing teams in stead of being wine and cheese.[/quote]


Spoken like someone who does'nt have season tickets .

tryfuhl 11-04-2008 08:25 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;497711]

So - can I put you down for the $2,200 due next year? How about you 411? You guys gonna pony up the dough so that I can hold onto these seats I have invested time and money into? No? Shocking. Guess I'll have to find some other way to do that.[/quote]

don't get so butthurt man..

[quote=bigmarley4;497729]Bingo. I'd like to attend every home game. This year I've only missed the Cards game, and I am hopeful *fingers crossed* I can make it to every other home game. What I would never do is go on to craigslist or stubhub for every single home game I am able to go to, go through the hassle of finding and buying tickets in random seats at varying prices, then having to secure a parking pass. I don't understand why you think it is such a bad thing to own season tickets and sell them when you cannot attend? Again, this whole issue is mitigated if Skins fans WANT to go to the game, and do what it takes to do so.[/quote]

I think that the issue is, is that people are complaining about not being able to recoup losses.. that's not my responsibility if you're not attending the game. If you want to get in at face value, accept that other people may as well, even if only for a game or two. If I really want to attend a game, I'll pay a bit more because of the market/demand, but not because you (figuratively) feel ripped off by preseason game costs, etc. I don't see how ST holders can complain about that, they chose the tickets and I understand the want to hold onto them for when you can more easily afford it, but how is that my fault? I'm sitting on the waiting list in hopes that I'll be back in the DC area within a handful of years, if you lose a few hundred a year, that's the risk you took accepting ST's that you couldn't afford, right? So keep your tickets, but don't complain about how much people are willing to pay for them.

53Fan 11-04-2008 11:04 PM

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I buy tickets to see the game and support my team. Everyone seems concerned about losing money. Whoever told you buying tickets to sporting events was a good investment lied to you.


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