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[quote=Mr.Redskin;510337]

That is honestly the most disturbing comment I have ever read.

You think...lol...that b/c Snyder is making money.....lol....that somehow you or I but rather all of us should be happy during the season/after the season that the goal is to put money in his bank account other than stacking trophies by the podium for pressers than you have done your self in

....when the Giants held up that super bowl trophy were you boasting we are profitable ? or every team in our division has been to the SUper Bowl since us that its cool, we have a lucrative team???

B/c that is what your saying in your statement to me as you sit there with a smile like you dropped some knowledge.

I say your the one who needs to be educated or re-educated if you think you have already obtained this enlightenment and ask yourself....

Does the statement "Snyder is running this team into the ground" pertain only about money??

If you say it is all about money than you accept,forgive,and continue to serve/protect Snyder or any notion to exploit the fans hearts and dedication to simply become a football merchant at any costs.

Its not fair to call me out. I have points to make and I prefer to make those among our community and be challenged intelligently.[/quote]
No one is challenging your right to make a point. However when you make a post like you did in a "What's RIGHT with the Skins" thread, expect to hear from those who have an opposite opinion especially when all you're throwing out is doom-n-gloom with no reason, thought, or facts to back up your points.

To the "running the franchise into the ground comment", let me "Drop some knowledge" as much as many fans love to bash Snyder and the way he markets and makes money for this franchise, keep in mind without the level of profitability we have the FO would not be able to jump on high $$ FAs or re-sign our key players to big $$$ before they hit the FA market. Yes, it sucks as a fan to pay high ticket prices and merchandise prices, but to make sure the franchise only needs to make decisions based on yearly cap numbers rather than overall profitability (see Bills, Bengals and others), it's a necessary evil. So sorry if it was the "most disturbing comment you've read", but it's reality.

I couldn't care less how much money Snyder puts in his pocket or radio stations / amusement parks he buys, all I care about is that the Skins never have to worry about not spending or doing something to help the team get better because of a money issue.

And....if you look at the Giants, Patriots, Cowboys, Steelers they are all very profitable franchises.

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[quote=GMScud;510492]Well I'm gonna ignore the recent negativity on this thread and just throw my two cents in regarding the thread title.

When you look at two football teams lined up pre-snap, 11 on 11, what should be right with a team should start at the core- the front lines on both sides- and be built around that. Unfortunately we don't have that, at least as far as offense is concerned.

However, as SportsCurmudgeon points out, we have some very solid complimentary pieces. I don't think we're too far off from taking this pretty average team to pretty good. We need to build up the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, particularly offense.

But we've got pass catchers, all of whom are under 30 (thrash aside), a pair of very good backs, a solid young QB, a monster FB, and a damn good good defense.

[B]Fix the o-line up and get more comfortable in WCO, and we could contend[/B].[/quote]

Absolutely! We're not as bad as we sometimes look. Sometimes small, correctable things can make you look terrible when not executed properly. A couple of linemen, some more time in the WCO....we're closer than alot of people think. To hear some of our fellow posters you would think we'd be 0-13 since our personel and coaching supposedly "suck" so bad. It's a shame our rookies did'nt come in and tear up the league as some apparently thought they should, but given a little more time I think our rookies are going to turn out pretty good and our team as well. With growing, there are growing pains. No matter if we make the playoffs or not, I'm looking forward to next year because the WCO takes time and I believe we will get better.

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[quote=Mr.Redskin;510328]A lot of talk, but your saying nothing. Where do I start playoffs, do you think we advanced or play well in those ??? Thats comical. We won 1 game (TY ST)[/quote]
I'm not saying nothing....we made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years, most teams in the NFL can't say that.

[quote]Look, to call me out...are you standing by Snyder???[/quote]
You're damn right I stand by the guy. Is he perfect, No. Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he's a fan, like us. He grew up like many of us did watching the Skins in the 70s and the glory days of the 80s. The guy wants nothing more than to hoist multiple Super Bowl trophies. CRedskins made a great post (#72) that I agree with 100%.

[quote]No skins fan wants to see their team run into the ground. Do you not think they are the laughing stock?? Things are different out of the heart of Redskin land VA.[/quote]We weren't a laughingstock at 6-2. We weren't a laughingstock when we made the playoffs last year. The Redskins are definitely NOT a laughingstock. Detroit is a laughingstock, the Raiders are a laughingstock, the Bengals are a laughingstock.

[quote]Are you telling me this team is improving??? Thought not, missing the playoffs is SELF-DESTRUCTION.[/quote]
Over the last 5 weeks, of course not. But are we imploding to the point we need to call for Snyder to sell the team???? Of course not.

[quote]You feel insulted b/c someone spoke down about the SKINS. Newsflash, you came out of a coma, either from 1991 or when Snyder took over.

Accept it for what it is a family member with 35 + years of season ticket holding and tired of problems not being addressed and they never will iif the problems are being treated as a good thing. Thats not how things change.

Grow up.[/quote]
You appear to be very insulted because someone challenged your ridiculous post. If you're a 35+ year fan then you should know the history from when Snyder took over. Let me ask you a few questions, are the Skins better off now than they were in 2003? Is Snyder a better owner now than 5 years ago? Here's the most important....If Snyder did sell the team how many years do you think it would set the franchise back from being a playoff contender?

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What's right about the Redskins:

Greg Blache didn't blitz in the first half against Baltimore.

Joe Flacco completed two passes.

Hmmm. Never would have seen that one coming. If you take away the Portis fumble returned by Reed for a TD and rule him down via forward progress, we probably win the first half.

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o Talent at the skill positions JC, CC, SM, ARE, CP, MS, LB
o Young talent at the skill positions waiting in the wings DT, MK, FD
o Solid defense, above average secondary
o Great MLB
o Pro-bowl LT
o Good KR

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Good defense, even though our DL is mediocre.

Clinton Portis. Close to MVP candidate.

Landry and Chris Horton.

Chris Cooley.

We have a decent-to-good team.

If we have a good 2009 draft with emphasis on the trenches; if we pick up some good FA - including a veteran QB and a big vet WR - we could definitely improve next season.

Zorn needs to replace himself with a better OC; he needs to dump Danny Smith as the ST coach.

Doing these things will make this team better and we could do much better in 2009.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;510502]I'm not saying nothing....we made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years, most teams in the NFL can't say that.


You're damn right I stand by the guy. Is he perfect, No. Has he made mistakes, absolutely. But he's a fan, like us. He grew up like many of us did watching the Skins in the 70s and the glory days of the 80s. The guy wants nothing more than to hoist multiple Super Bowl trophies. CRedskins made a great post (#72) that I agree with 100%.

We weren't a laughingstock at 6-2. We weren't a laughingstock when we made the playoffs last year. The Redskins are definitely NOT a laughingstock. Detroit is a laughingstock, the Raiders are a laughingstock, the Bengals are a laughingstock.


Over the last 5 weeks, of course not. But are we imploding to the point we need to call for Snyder to sell the team???? Of course not.


You appear to be very insulted because someone challenged your ridiculous post. If you're a 35+ year fan then you should know the history from when Snyder took over. Let me ask you a few questions, are the Skins better off now than they were in 2003? Is Snyder a better owner now than 5 years ago? Here's the most important....If Snyder did sell the team how many years do you think it would set the franchise back from being a playoff contender?[/quote]

Wow, quote Mr.Redskin and use the forum to attack his views while wasting everyone's time and thread space over it.

Why don't you directly PM him or stop quoting people making your attacks public??? His statements aren't aimed at you! Thats not the way to handle disagreements. Grow up.

Too many of you girls are on the rag and catch feelings about statements not even directed at you. Grow up. Stop consoling and censoring your members viewpoint.

We can pop up anywhere at anytime.

Never has a Moderator NOT have stayed neutral but rather joined the resistance vs. the member w/o seniority.

Take your hands out of your neighbors pants fag's.

Spring bitches '09

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[quote=SmootSmack;513697]One post and gone. Banned[/quote]

Eleven minutes? You're slipping:spank:

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[quote=SmootSmack;513697]One post and gone. Banned[/quote]

HA. That was reminiscent of that Cowboys fan (I forget his original user name) who got banned and kept on re-joining under a different name to continue to argue his case via the 3rd person (i.e. "what HE means is this, what HE said is this, etc). Pretty lame.

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[quote=SmootSmack;513697]One post and gone. Banned[/quote]

was that mr. redskin under a different account? looked like the writing was in the same format, tone and thinking.

i/ve never actually seen someone do one of those "emotional personal attack" posts on here before and thats saying alot considering all the internet tough guys lurking around every corner. lol well his posts gave me a good laugh, thanks.

go skins!!

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So, what's right with the Redskins:

Safeties:
LL and Horton... solid

CB's
Hall, Smoot, Rogers, Springs...again solid

Linebackers

Fetcher is da man and Rocky is a keeper... Marcus Washington was a beast in his younger days but has lost a step... Blades is no starter... need to upgrade OLB

D Line
Needs lots of help... Carter and Griffith are average at best, their best years behind him... Montgomery and Glolston are not starter quality but are good backups.. If Taylor gets over his injury, he and Evans are solid, Jason's clock is ticking however

O Line

Samuels is legit... Thomas, Rabach and Kendall are ok... Jansen has lost it and Heyer is raw but looking good... PLEASE DRAFT SOME LINEMEN (D and O) THIS YEAR GM!!

WR's
Moss is a threat deep but drops too many passes, must stay consistant... Randle El is ok...the rookies need lots of improvement, pray for them

TE's
Thank God for Chris Cooley... give Fred Davis some time

RB..
Portis, Sellers and Betts get the job done when o-line is right

QB
Give Campbell one more year in this system and if no improvement I will put throw him under the bus myself

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Qb: Campbell is still a question mark. He was great in the first half of the season, but after continously being sacked and hit he reverted back to scared campbell. Todd Collins is a solid back up and Brennan if developed correctly can be a star. If we keep Zorn this group will grow

Rb: Portis is Elite, Betts is good in spot duty. Rock is a decent special teams player but I hope that they draft a player with elite speed to run back punts and kickoffs

Fb: Sellers is a pro bowler and can become a short yardage back.

Wr: This is where we have the most potiential Moss is a player with elite speed, Randle El was at one time the best slot reciever in the game. Devin Thomas has the size and the speed to be a Anquan Boldin type if taught correctly, He has learn to become violent to cb. Malcolm Kelly has trendous size and can be a Plaxico type player. The younger guys need a new coach someone who has a history of producing stars

TE: This is the deepest position. If we develop the position it can be one of the best in the league. We have Cooley and the best tightend in college football last year (Davis). The coaches need to get their heads out their asses and coaches these guys.

T: Samuels is on the cusp of being a HOF caliber Tackle, Heyer has talent. Fabini and Jansen at this stage of their career are backups. If I'm Vinny I will do all in my power to pry Jordan Gross from the Panthers in the off season

G: This position is solid and we have the future in Rinehart but we have to let him get playing time.

C:Rabach is ok, but we need some youth behind him UDFA talent that can develop

We have one of the best line coaches to ever teach at the position. If he decides to stay and if he can rebound from the trajedy in his life the line will be elite again.

Defense: We do need a new coordinator, Blanche is not innovative and the fact that we are the 5th ranked defense is sad because I believe we can be so much different

DE: This position is severly aged. I believe we should not have cut James we paid him to get heal his knee and play else where, that was stupid. Hopefully we can keep Taylor at a discount. Daniels back will make us better against the run. We better keep Evans and grab a guy like Shaun Cody in the offseason from the Lions who can play both DE and DT

DT: Griffin was our best tackle and he is now past his prime. We need someone to fill that void. Alexander Golston and Montgomery are good but are trully utilized effectively with a elite player beside them. We have to replace Griffin with a star.

OLB: This is our weakest area Rocky is good, Washington is injured to often. Blades is out of position. I dream that we draft an Aaron Curry, or a Clint Sintim this year in the first round.

MLB: Fletcher is great hopefully he stay that way. if we can get linebacker depth Blades can go back to being the back up here

CB: The best position we have. Keep Hall, if Springs can't take a pay cut let him go and develop the backups. we shouldn't have let leigh go, it should have been tyron but o well.

FS: Landry is good here, but he is out of position and needs to be put back where we drafted him. I hope the Raiders let Michael Huff go so we could get him. It would be a steal with our coaching staff teaching him and getting him back to form.

SS: We have a surplus at this position Landry, and horton are both elite type players hopefully we can play more of that cobra formation with both of them in the box

K Sucks ass, but what can we do score more points so he is less of a factor

P: terrible hopefully we go after Lechler in the off season.

KR/PR: We need some one who can be a specialist in the B mitch form who can make something happen. what we got now isn't working and whole special teams unit need to play better.

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Offense: Portis and the running game, Moss, Cooley, Sellars, Campbell is very careful with the the ball and running, he's actually to risk averse.

Defense: Everything but the pass rush.

Special teams: Cartwright, tackling on returns.

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Portis, Cooley, young draft pick wr and te, Samuels, SELLERS!, Laron, C Horton, Hall?, Rodgers, Rock on st. Everybody else, YOU ARE ON NOTICE: YOU ARE AVERAGE OR LESS, AND NEED TO BE REPLACED!

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Bringing in Hall for cheap was very much worth it. He was on a pretty TERRIBLE oakland team and he has exceeded expectations.