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[quote=Mattyk72;520165]Housh would command top dollar especially in a pretty thin WR free agent market.[/quote]

I think every team in the NFC East is going to go hard after Housh, starting with the Giants

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[quote=GTripp0012;520115]For what it's worth, I wrote that yesterday.

Horton is just me speculating, based on what I know of the Redskins desires and historical trends. I've heard nothing on him. The others are simply players who we know they are shopping, but in the case of Golston and Betts, what I believe they could reasonably get for them.[/quote]

it was an excellent writeup! i actually speculated on Horton for a first or 2nd rounder in extremeskins and was ostracized. personally, i think its a good idea for the same reasons you mentioned. id much rather trade Horton than Rogers. If we can flip a 7th rounder into a 2nd rounder, we would be fools not to do it, especially considering the depth we have at safety and the fact that Landry should be playing SS, not FS, to maximize his talents. Horton is worth more to us in a trade than he is on the field, because of our depth there.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;520202]it was an excellent writeup! i actually speculated on Horton for a first or 2nd rounder in extremeskins and was ostracized. personally, i think its a good idea for the same reasons you mentioned. id much rather trade Horton than Rogers. If we can flip a 7th rounder into a 2nd rounder, we would be fools not to do it, especially considering the [B]depth we have at safety and the fact that Landry should be playing SS, not FS, to maximize his talents. Horton is worth more to us in a trade than he is on the field, because of our depth there.[/B][/quote]

What depth at safety are you talking about?
We finally have two safety that [B]do not have any glaring weakness' [/B]Landry and Horton. That is it. Nobody else. No depth...nothing. Please do not say Doughty, he is not the answer. Kareem Moore is not there yet. Micheal Green no.
I disagree that Landry is better suited for SS. He has been a FS his entire career except his rookie year when we had Sean Taylor at FS, so Landry was played at SS. Horton is the big hitting SS every team wants.
Why him trade away for a draft pick. That would leave a hole at safety.

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[quote=Defensewins;520166]This is a really bad idea.
1) Springs is more than skilled enough to be a FS, but the problems is he has problems staying healthy at CB. He will never stay healthy at the very physical/high contact FS position. FS is a very high contact position compared to CB.
2) Why trade a young, cheap and proven player for a draft pick that given our drafting ability, will end up being a bench player.[/quote]

because horton will be a bench player next year. blache is moving landry back to strong safety. we might as well get some value for him. hes more valuable to us in a trade for a 2nd round pick than he is to us sitting on the bench or playing in cobra formations.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;520205][B]because horton will be a bench player next year. blache is moving landry back to strong safety.[/B] we might as well get some value for him. hes more valuable to us in a trade for a 2nd round pick than he is to us sitting on the bench or playing in cobra formations.[/quote]

Where are you getting this info?? Who is going to play FS?

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[quote=Mattyk72;520214]Where are you getting this info?? Who is going to play FS?[/quote]

Earlier in the year, Blache said his goal was for Landry to play SS. If Reed Doughty had been healthy, Horton never would have started SS and Landry could have stayed there. If you watch the games near the end of the year... Springs played alot of FS, Landry at SS, with Rogers and Hall at CB. Seemed to me to be a template for what we will do next year. We maximize our big play potential with LL at SS. I even remember Vinny C downplaying Hortons importance on his radio show.

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I don't recall hearing Blache saying anything about wanting to move Landry back. He could have moved him back in camp but didn't and when asked about it he said:

[QUOTE]When asked if he likes Landry at free safety, Blache responded: "I just think he brings so much to the table for us at the free safety spot. He's such a force back there, being able to play the ball from sideline to sideline that I like...to have him back there, and until I can come up with something better or different, we're not fooling with it."

link: [url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39870-washington-redskins-laron-landry-will-stay-at-free-safety]Washington Redskins' LaRon Landry Will Stay at Free Safety | Bleacher Report[/url][/QUOTE]

And during the season he always referred to him as his "angel" in the middle of the field.

I think with the way Horton played it would be awful tough to keep him off the field.

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Carlos Rogers - 2nd Round Pick
Santana Moss - 2nd Round Pick
Kedrick Golston - 3rd Round Pick
Ladell Betts - 4th/5th Round Pick

I could see that.

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[quote=Mattyk72;520217]I don't recall hearing Blache saying anything about wanting to move Landry back. He could have moved him back in camp but didn't and when asked about it he said:



And during the season he always referred to him as his "angel" in the middle of the field.

I think with the way Horton played it would be awful tough to keep him off the field.[/quote]


good quote, but i have heard other things. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I am very interested to see what a Kareem Moore/Landry tandem looks like.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;520220]Carlos Rogers - 2nd Round Pick
Santana Moss - 2nd Round Pick
Kedrick Golston - 3rd Round Pick
Ladell Betts - 4th/5th Round Pick

I could see that.[/quote]

This is nuts. Not to crap on you GTripp, because I know you wrote this and are just passing on some rumors. But trade rumors are just that, rumors. And most the time there's either nothing to them, or they never get anywhere because nobody's willing to meet the ask price.

I might make all of the above moves if I were totally dismantling my team and starting from scratch. But for God sakes people, ask yourselves, are the Redskins THAT bad? Is the team as currently comprised THAT incapable of winning? Hell, it was only like 10 weeks ago that this team as currently comprised was 6-2. There's no logic in tearing this team down at this time.

The rumors get out of hand because Vinny says the team is looking to acquire draft picks, and so all of a sudden every player is being shopped (even the affordable ones like Betts and Golston). I don't buy it for a minute, the money talks a lot louder than any rumor.

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[quote=Schneed10;520225] But for God sakes people, ask yourselves, are the Redskins THAT bad? [/quote]


in a word, yes

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[quote=Schneed10;520225]This is nuts. Not to crap on you GTripp, because I know you wrote this and are just passing on some rumors. But trade rumors are just that, rumors. And most the time there's either nothing to them, or they never get anywhere because nobody's willing to meet the ask price.

I might make all of the above moves if I were totally dismantling my team and starting from scratch. But for God sakes people, ask yourselves, [B]are the Redskins THAT bad[/B]? Is the team as currently comprised THAT incapable of winning? Hell, it was only like 10 weeks ago that this team as currently comprised was 6-2. There's no logic in tearing this team down at this time.

The rumors get out of hand because Vinny says the team is looking to acquire draft picks, and so all of a sudden every player is being shopped (even the affordable ones like Betts and Golston). I don't buy it for a minute, the money talks a lot louder than any rumor.[/quote]

No they're definitely not. Just your typical fan overreactions at play here. Everyone wants to play GM this time of year. Some would want you think we are the Raiders or Lions. Not even close.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;520221]good quote, but i have heard other things. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. I am very interested to see what a Kareem Moore/Landry tandem looks like.[/quote]

You would bet your future on a player kareem moore that has never started an NFL game at any position? Are you Vinny Ceratto?

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[quote=Schneed10;520225]This is nuts. Not to crap on you GTripp, because I know you wrote this and are just passing on some rumors. But trade rumors are just that, rumors. And most the time there's either nothing to them, or they never get anywhere because nobody's willing to meet the ask price.

I might make all of the above moves if I were totally dismantling my team and starting from scratch. But for God sakes people, ask yourselves, are the Redskins THAT bad? Is the team as currently comprised THAT incapable of winning? Hell, it was only like 10 weeks ago that this team as currently comprised was 6-2. There's no logic in tearing this team down at this time.

The rumors get out of hand because Vinny says the team is looking to acquire draft picks, and so all of a sudden every player is being shopped (even the affordable ones like Betts and Golston). I don't buy it for a minute, the money talks a lot louder than any rumor.[/quote]

I definitely don't think all those guys would or should be traded. But offseason rumors are always hard to really judge, primarily because nearly every team is doing their due diligence and floating names out there amongst their peers to gauge interest. I think the Redskins have at least entertained the idea of trading some of the names mentioned simply because those are the names that are probably getting the most interest in return. Betts, Rogers, and Moss that is.

If I were to guess, I'd say...

Rogers: Not a serious candidate to be traded unless they are blown away by a ridiculous offer. I think this is more a case of "how valuable is this guy?"

Moss: Most likely to be traded

Golston: If someone else offers him a better deal in the RFA market, they won't work too hard to keep him

Horton: Not going anywhere

Betts: His value is continuing to decline, so the Redskins need to decide if they are truly committed to making him part of the team or are there teams out there (Colts, Chargers?) that may be interested.

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Oh, and we're definitely not that bad

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[quote=SmootSmack;520237]Oh, and we're definitely not that bad[/quote]

I agree.
But we are not that good either. The teams results on the field regressed in 2008.

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[quote=Defensewins;520235]You would bet your future on a player kareem moore that has never started an NFL game at any position? Are you Vinny Ceratto?[/quote]

No, i wouldnt bet my future on him - i'd have springs back there as well. However Landry is being "wasted" at FS and i dont beleive Horton or Landry will ever realize their full potential as long as both of them are on the team. If the skins did trade Horton for a 2nd rounder, they could use that second rounder on a DT who would hopefully start from day 1. If we have a front 4 that can put pressure on the QB, we would be more than fine with Rogers and Hall at CB, Landry at SS, and Springs/Moore/Green at FS.

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[quote=Defensewins;520242]I agree.
But we are not that good either. The teams results on the field regressed in 2008.[/quote]

We definitely over-achieved in our first 8 games. The skins were never as good as some fans thought they were. They were then what they are now - a mediocre team. Unfortunately, we are a mediocre team that, as you pointed out, is regressing. To turn the team around we need to forget about the present (to an extent) and make some sacrifices that will help this team in the long-term.

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It's a good thing that we have all of these good players in the secondary. Just remember that one of these guys is just an injury away from being a starter regardless. I say keep the dept there if we can. If we can keep Springs and Smoot on the cheap keep them too.

I wish we could say that abou the lines. Nobody is going to give us anything for our O or D line guys. I'm for trading Moss and Betts as long as it's a damn good deal. If not we've not really lost anything. If they hadn't signed CP to such a big deal then he'd be trade material too.

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I think the main point that some are missing is that, while I believe all of those trades are possibilities, there is a [B]zero[/B] percent chance that every one of those five players gets traded. It's not a fire sale here. One, maybe two trades at most. There's got to be a player market, and just because the Skins are shopping them does not at all mean that they'll get what their asking for. In fact, you usually ask for something that no one plans to give you, so that in the case a desperate team bites, you win the trade easily.

Horton played really, really poorly against the pass down the stretch. He's almost as bad as Doughty against it. Unlike Doughty, he's a poor pass rusher. Where Horton makes up for that all is his unbelievable closing speed against the run. Teams really started taking advantage of him in the play action game, because he bites so badly on run fakes, and his guy tends to be wide open.

I mean, let's face it, a second rounder for one of the last picks in the draft last year is a HUGE steal. You don't even think about it. Is anyone that desperate to get a safety who cannot cover? Highly doubt it. Horton will be back, and likely in the starting lineup next year, but he's got a lot to work on in the off-season.

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[quote=GTripp0012;520375]I think the main point that some are missing is that, while I believe all of those trades are possibilities, there is a [B]zero[/B] percent chance that every one of those five players gets traded. It's not a fire sale here. One, maybe two trades at most. There's got to be a player market, and just because the Skins are shopping them does not at all mean that they'll get what their asking for. In fact, you usually ask for something that no one plans to give you, so that in the case a desperate team bites, you win the trade easily.

Horton played really, really poorly against the pass down the stretch. He's almost as bad as Doughty against it. Unlike Doughty, he's a poor pass rusher. Where Horton makes up for that all is his unbelievable closing speed against the run. Teams really started taking advantage of him in the play action game, because he bites so badly on run fakes, and his guy tends to be wide open.

I mean, let's face it, a second rounder for one of the last picks in the draft last year is a HUGE steal. You don't even think about it. Is anyone that desperate to get a safety who cannot cover? Highly doubt it. Horton will be back, and likely in the starting lineup next year, but he's got a lot to work on in the off-season.[/quote]

Really good post. I think Moss is the most likely to be traded - and hopefully for a 2nd and 5th or 3rd and 4th or something like that. I would say if we got a 3rd/4th for Golston it would be a good deal too. Other than that, I don't see us realistically trading anyone... even though I think moving Horton or Campbell for a 2nd or higher would be a no-brainer.

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I think Dan and Vinny both need to buy a "Guide to Financial Independence" book. lol.

Man, we might release one or two guys, but don't expect too much b/c we still need the depth. I could see Springs being the high priced guy to get released and we'd resign hall. We might also cut one of the DL since we survived w/o 2 of them being injured last year. But if we really need draft picks...cause even though CP is a beast, he is WAY over paid as a RB, especially on a team that is trying to go to a WCO, so we will need to start looking at RBs next year

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PS, we need to [B]STOP[/B] restructuring old head's contracts...that's part of the reason we're in cap hell right now!

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We're not in cap hell, we're over by just $2M for 2009 but we can easily clean that up quite quickly. The problem with restructuring is we're marrying ourselves to older players who are no longer as productive as their cap figures would indicate.

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[quote=Mattyk72;521906]We're not in cap hell, we're over by just $2M for 2009 but we can easily clean that up quite quickly. [B]The problem with restructuring is we're marrying ourselves to older players who are no longer as productive as their cap figures would indicate[/B].[/quote]

They had a lengthy segment on the "Locker Room" on 980am earlier about this exact topic. We need to stop the restructuring madness and part ways with older, declining guys.

This is a good read:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/20/AR2009012003850.html]In Offseason, Redskins Could Follow Example of Ravens, Falcons and Dolphins - washingtonpost.com[/url]

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An example would be cutting Springs, Griffin, and Marcus W. That would save us $13M in cap space this coming season, which could easily turn into 4 or 5 moderately priced younger players who could add depth to both sides of the line and the LB position....

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[quote=GMScud;521948]An example would be cutting Springs, Griffin, and Marcus W. That would save us $13M in cap space this coming season, which could easily turn into 4 or 5 moderately priced younger players who could add depth to both sides of the line and the LB position....[/quote]

Though to be accurate, if you're going to cut a DT like Griffin, you'd have to add 2 DTs in order to build depth.

If we're going to take 1 step back by cutting still-starting quality players, we'll have to find a way to replace them without breaking the bank, or we'll get worse.

Maybe that's what needs to happen, maybe we have to shed the old guys and get worse before we get better. But I've got to emphasize that, if we get rid of all our older players chances are we'll get worse this season, because we don't have the picks to fill the holes through the draft like the Ravens did (as mentioned in the post article), and it's not that easy to fit that many quality players under the cap via free agency.

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[quote=Schneed10;522044]Though to be accurate, if you're going to cut a DT like Griffin, you'd have to add 2 DTs in order to build depth.

If we're going to take 1 step back by cutting still-starting quality players, we'll have to find a way to replace them without breaking the bank, or we'll get worse.

Maybe that's what needs to happen, maybe we have to shed the old guys and get worse before we get better. But I've got to emphasize that, if we get rid of all our older players chances are we'll get worse this season, because we don't have the picks to fill the holes through the draft like the Ravens did (as mentioned in the post article), and it's not that easy to fit that many quality players under the cap via free agency.[/quote]

Is Griffin still a quality player? Seems like he's always injured.

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[quote=Schneed10;522044]Though to be accurate,[B] if you're going to cut a DT like Griffin, you'd have to add 2 DTs in order to build depth.
[/B]
If we're going to take 1 step back by cutting still-starting quality players, we'll have to find a way to replace them without breaking the bank, or we'll get worse.

[B]Maybe that's what needs to happen, maybe we have to shed the old guys and get worse before we get better.[/B] But I've got to emphasize that, if we get rid of all our older players chances are we'll get worse this season, because we don't have the picks to fill the holes through the draft like the Ravens did (as mentioned in the post article), and it's not that easy to fit that many quality players under the cap via free agency.[/quote]

I don't think we should get rid of ALL of our older players, but we should be selective and not be so damn worried about keeping together a core group for a "one last run at it" kind of thing. The Ravens, Flacons, and Dolphins all proved that if you build the lines, you can succeed (overnight) in spite of other weaknesses. IMO, we should adopt that strategy and move forward.

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[quote=GTripp0012;520375]I think the main point that some are missing is that, while I believe all of those trades are possibilities, there is a [B]zero[/B] percent chance that every one of those five players gets traded. It's not a fire sale here. One, maybe two trades at most. There's got to be a player market, and just because the Skins are shopping them does not at all mean that they'll get what their asking for. In fact, you usually ask for something that no one plans to give you, so that in the case a desperate team bites, you win the trade easily.

Horton played really, really poorly against the pass down the stretch. He's almost as bad as Doughty against it. Unlike Doughty, he's a poor pass rusher. Where Horton makes up for that all is his unbelievable closing speed against the run. Teams really started taking advantage of him in the play action game, because he bites so badly on run fakes, and his guy tends to be wide open.

I mean, let's face it, a second rounder for one of the last picks in the draft last year is a HUGE steal. You don't even think about it. Is anyone that desperate to get a safety who cannot cover? Highly doubt it. Horton will be back, and likely in the starting lineup next year, but he's got a lot to work on in the off-season.[/quote]

Consistently rush the passer and everyone in the secondary will look good in pass defense. I don't care who's back there. When the opposing QB, even Ryan Fitzpatrick of the Bengals, has all day to throw the DBs are going to get gouged. Biting on run fakes is coachable. Horton hits hard , has a nose for the ball and can catch. He's also inexpensive.

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[quote=GMScud;522074]I don't think we should get rid of ALL of our older players, but we should be selective and not be so damn worried about keeping together a core group for a "one last run at it" kind of thing. The Ravens, Flacons, and Dolphins all proved that if you build the lines, you can succeed (overnight) in spite of other weaknesses. IMO, we should adopt that strategy and move forward.[/quote]

The Ravens, Falcons and Dolphins had losing seasons before they got better. I wonder if the fan base and to some extent, the ownership/front office has the patience to go through a losing season of rebuilding. These losing seasons allowed these teams to make good acquisitions with high draft picks (Ravens got Flacco, Falcons got Matt Ryan, and the Dolphins got Jake Long).

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[quote=Ruhskins;522095]The Ravens, Falcons and Dolphins had losing seasons before they got better. I wonder if the fan base and to some extent, the ownership/front office has the patience to go through a losing season of rebuilding. These losing seasons allowed these teams to make good acquisitions with high draft picks (Ravens got Flacco, Falcons got Matt Ryan, and the Dolphins got Jake Long).[/quote]

I was just going to say this exact thing. The Ravens come to mind, they built their lines over the course of several drafts. They didn't suddenly draft 12 new linemen in one draft. They got Grubbs a few years ago, just as one example.

Besides, changing ourselves overnight is not an option for us, at least not through the draft (which is the right way to do it). We have 4 (or 5? I can't remember) draft picks. That's not going to make a difference overnight.

If you want an overnight impact you'd have to go to free agency. But again, with the cap situation, as much room as we could clear by cutting older guys, it would still take up significant space to replace them (because of the last-capped-year rules). It's just not feasible from a cap standpoint to replace Griffin, Springs, Taylor and Washington with a replacement AND build depth on top of their replacements.

What we're talking about here is a potential commitment to a youth movement. If we're going the route of cutting old expensive guys, then we have to find moderately priced free agents to replace them with now (ie no impact players) and draft well over the course of two or three seasons. I don't see how it can happen overnight for the Redskins. We're not the Dolphins with the luxury of picking Jake Long, we're not the Ravens sitting here with 10 draft picks.

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[quote=Schneed10;522116]

What we're talking about here is a potential commitment to a youth movement. If we're going the route of cutting old expensive guys, then we have to find moderately priced free agents to replace them with now (ie no impact players) and draft well over the course of two or three seasons. I don't see how it can happen overnight for the Redskins. We're not the Dolphins with the luxury of picking Jake Long, we're not the Ravens sitting here with 10 draft picks.[/quote]

I understand the Ravens built their current team through a few drafts. What I meant by changing overnight was with regard to record. Baltimore and Miami were shitty teams in '07, and they both made the playoffs this year.

The Redskins are not a shitty team, but we are old. I don't think we should blow it up, but we have to get younger. It doesn't have to happen all at once, but I'd like to see us to do a few things moving forward (not just this offseason, every offseason):

1) Focus more on improving the lines
2) Put more of a premium on draft picks
3) Stop constantly restructuring the contracts of aging players with declining skills

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Trying to look at this from another slant.....maybe, and there's the Vinnie. IMO there are many ways to creatively build a team and not isolated to soley the draft, FA only, Divine intervention, etc.
That having been said, much has been said of late regarding the Skins trouble in [B]fielding[/B] the team they are "paying for". Additionally, it has been suggested (by several people that should know) that VC is not a bad FO guy. NOT a good one either......average. If you have ever heard him speak for any length of time it is apparent, he has an ego. I think in his mind he is the second coming of Bobby Beatherd, and delivering inspired work through brilliant thought process, in creative ways and means. I disagree. I think as has been stated that he is hovering somewhere around average.
I think if you are not succesfully breaking new ground, and developing great success through previously unthought of means.............you should stick to ways that most "plodders" can also have prosperity.
Stick with the draft, and keep your nose in the wind for the occasional FA bargain, and undrafted UM grad/soon to be star.

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[quote=GMScud;522164]I understand the Ravens built their current team through a few drafts. What I meant by changing overnight was with regard to record. Baltimore and Miami were shitty teams in '07, and they both made the playoffs this year.

The Redskins are not a shitty team, but we are old. I don't think we should blow it up, but we have to get younger. It doesn't have to happen all at once, but I'd like to see us to do a few things moving forward (not just this offseason, every offseason):

1) Focus more on improving the lines
2) Put more of a premium on draft picks
3) Stop constantly restructuring the contracts of aging players with declining skills[/quote]

Our hand will be forced on point #3. The last-capped-year rules prevent us from restructuring contracts drastically this year. And then if 2010 is uncapped the contract structure won't matter.

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Nice post by JLC here, giving some source info on potential player personnel decisions. The numbers never lie; much of what he says here jives with the top post in this thread.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/01/skins_first_set_of_personnel_m.html#more]Initial Personnel Ratings Completed - Redskins Insider[/url]

Griffin is likely to stay, Washington is almost surely gone, Jason Taylor and Shawn Springs are up in the air - the team intends to approach them with paycuts/restructuring possibilities, but JLC believes they're not likely to be receptive.

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[quote=Schneed10;523310]Nice post by JLC here, giving some source info on potential player personnel decisions. The numbers never lie; much of what he says here jives with the top post in this thread.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/01/skins_first_set_of_personnel_m.html#more]Initial Personnel Ratings Completed - Redskins Insider[/url]

Griffin is likely to stay, Washington is almost surely gone, Jason Taylor and Shawn Springs are up in the air - the team intends to approach them with paycuts/restructuring possibilities, but JLC believes they're not likely to be receptive.[/quote]

Disappointing to hear that they don't think Rinehart is at least ready to compete for significant playing time in 2009. Maybe I was actually wrong about him. Wouldn't that be something?!

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[quote=SmootSmack;523322]Disappointing to hear that they don't think Rinehart is at least ready to compete for significant playing time in 2009. Maybe I was actually wrong about him. Wouldn't that be something?![/quote]
I am much like Desert Storm I.........Shocked and Awed!

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[quote=Schneed10;523310]Nice post by JLC here, giving some source info on potential player personnel decisions. The numbers never lie; much of what he says here jives with the top post in this thread.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/01/skins_first_set_of_personnel_m.html#more]Initial Personnel Ratings Completed - Redskins Insider[/url]

Griffin is likely to stay, Washington is almost surely gone, Jason Taylor and Shawn Springs are up in the air - the team intends to approach them with paycuts/restructuring possibilities, but JLC believes they're not likely to be receptive.[/quote]

This process that JLC is referring to by the way is basically what I was explaining here.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/523135-post23.html[/url]

Though it seems I forgot to include the part where they review their own players before the meeting to discuss free agents

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PLLLLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEE

Cut Springs!