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[quote=44ever;533981]Welp, I guess we go after Suggs[/quote]

i would be in favor of that

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;533984]i would be in favor of that[/quote]

Start the thread:)

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If it's true that Evans signed with SF, then this the kind of shit that makes me say that the Giants FO is better than ours. Why the **** didn't we sign him earlier?

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[quote=44ever;533985]Start the thread:)[/quote]

on second thought, not so sure i would be

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CONFIRMED!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533986]If it's true that Evans signed with SF, then this the kind of shit that makes me say that the Giants FO is better than ours. Why the **** didn't we sign him earlier?[/quote]

Well think about it. We bring in AH to get up the middle to help out the ends. Then we cut JT and don't sign Evans. Brilliant

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Not too surprising. I know we're all disappointing the overachiever isn't returning (and it probably only further confirms that Blache's personal fave, Phillip Daniels, is returning) but a) you had to figure after we let him test the market we weren't going to make a big push for him, if he wanted to return he would and b) no one is the least bit concerned/curious that only team made a true bid for him?

I'm happy for him though. Good luck in Frisco with Damon Huard manning the other side.

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[quote=44ever;533989]Well think about it. We bring in AH to get up the middle to help out the ends. Then we cut JT and don't sign Evans. Brilliant[/quote]

Yeah, brilliant bring back a 36 yo end in Daniels. I hope Jackson, Buzbee, Wilson come up big. This smells like Orakpo being drafted.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533986]If it's true that Evans signed with SF, then this the kind of shit that makes me say that the Giants FO is better than ours. Why the **** didn't we sign him earlier?[/quote]

I think the more frustrating aspect is that we'll never really get any idea what the strategy or thinking was. Like others have said on here we haven't heard the FO talk about any FA DE so the two likelihoods are 1) we grab Daniels on the cheap and try to get through the season w/ him our underwhelming backups or 2) we use a draft pick to get a starter and it would probably have to be our first pick of the draft 13 or maybe 20 in a trade scenario, which means we're passing on starters for OT and LB.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533986]If it's true that Evans signed with SF, then this the kind of shit that makes me say that the Giants FO is better than ours. Why the **** didn't we sign him earlier?[/quote]For the same reason the Giants weren't interested in him?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533991]Yeah, brilliant bring back a 36 yo end in Daniels. I hope [B]Jackson, Buzbee, Wilson come up big[/B]. This smells like Orakpo being drafted.[/quote]

I hope that is the case; they have been on the roster list for a while and they never even had a chance to show off what they can do, except for Wilson.. It's time for us to give them a chance.. That is unless if we decide to go after a DE in free agency..

I don't think I like the idea of drafting a DE at #13, right when we need a RT most..

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533991]Yeah, brilliant bring back a 36 yo end in Daniels. I hope Jackson, Buzbee, Wilson come up big. This smells like Orakpo being drafted.[/quote]

Yes I think you're right. As far as Daniels goes, we are crazy to bring him back. I love him but it's time to go.

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Over/under on the number of days until SmootSmack's User Title reads "Alex Buzbee": 4.5

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533991]Yeah, brilliant bring back a 36 yo end in Daniels. I hope Jackson, Buzbee, Wilson come up big. This smells like Orakpo being drafted.[/quote]

If the Vinny and the FO is betting/hoping/praying Orakpo falls all the way to 13 I think they've gone full retard. I doubt he falls beyond 8th overall.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533991]Yeah, brilliant bring back a 36 yo end in Daniels. I hope Jackson, Buzbee, Wilson come up big. This smells like Orakpo being drafted.[/quote]

i agree. Looks like Orakpo will be in the B&G next year. I cant say im disappointed about that, but what the hell are we going to do at right tackle and lb?!

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[quote=GTripp0012;533993]For the same reason the Giants weren't interested in him?[/quote]

We could have signed Canty, maybe Vinnie will surprise us w/ Olchansky? Yeah, right keep dreaming.

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[quote=GTripp0012;533997]Over/under on the number of days until SmootSmack's User Title reads "Alex Buzbee": 4.5[/quote]

I had Alex Buzbee, and Sting Like a Buzbee off and on for several weeks last summer, went on vacation, came back and he tore his ACL...so he's asked me not to do that again

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[quote=SmootSmack;534003]I had Alex Buzbee, and Sting Like a Buzbee off and on for several weeks last summer, went on vacation, came back and he tore his ACL...so he's asked me not to do that again[/quote]...[SIZE=1]I've got the over.[/SIZE]

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[quote=SmootSmack;534003]I had Alex Buzbee, and Sting Like a Buzbee off and on for several weeks last summer, went on vacation, came back and he tore his ACL...so he's asked me not to do that again[/quote]

Wasn't an achilles injury?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;534001]We could have signed Canty, maybe Vinnie will surprise us w/ Olchansky? Yeah, right keep dreaming.[/quote]Olshansky isn't good, and I'm guessing he's looking for multiple years plus guaranteed cash. No reason to chase for him, in my opinion.

I'd look to add any older guy who will take a two year contract with less than 30% guaranteed. Look at Kevin Carter, Bertrand Berry, Paul Spicer, Marques Douglas, or Anthony Weaver.

Or Daniels at the vet min for a single year is fine.

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It sort of feels like after Dock everyone at Redskins Park went on vaca... i'm not advocating another spending spree w/o purpose but for f sake we have some serious needs. Why spend $63 guaranteed money @ DT and the secondary in one fell swoop but fail to shore up a proven, healthy run-stopping LDE and also keep the LB corp shallow on depth and talent?

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I'm telling y'all this was intentional. They know what they want to do. This wasn't a f-up by the FO.

Like I said earlier this means they'll probably fo after Orakpo if he falls to us. You guys want a youth movement? Well. . . . Orakpo would be that.

Daniels would be a back up along with Buzbee. That gives us one year with a stub DE, an undrafted guy, and Daniels for one more year or two as a back up. Seems to me like that's that until next year's draft and FA.

If Blanche wanted Evans then we'd have him. They tendered the guys they want, at least for a price.

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But if Buzbee was waiting for an opening...this is pretty much as wide open a race as the Redskins have for a starting position.

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[quote=SmootSmack;534003]I had Alex Buzbee, and Sting Like a Buzbee off and on for several weeks last summer, went on vacation, came back and he tore his ACL...so he's asked me not to do that again[/quote]

Jeez the only DE still on the roster w/ any size couldn't make it through warm-ups w/o a serious injury... fantastic.

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Guys, I've decided that I'm going to start for us at LE this year. I just have to put on 60 pounds, and then the gridiron is the only place I wouldn't look ridiculous.

Plus I could use about $700,000 in my bank account right about now.

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[quote=GTripp0012;534012]Guys, I've decided that I'm going to start for us at LE this year. I just have to put on 60 pounds, and then the gridiron is the only place I wouldn't look ridiculous.[/quote]

Bring back Charles Mann and Dexter Manley!!

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Maybe there's something they really like about rob Jackson or they think Lawrence sidbury will fall to them in the 5th round...bring daniels back post draft if he's still needed

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;534006]Wasn't an achilles injury?[/quote]

Exactly what I said AChiLles :)

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[quote=Nflnick11;534015]Maybe there's something they really like about rob Jackson or they think Lawrence sidbury will fall to them in the 5th round...bring daniels back post draft if he's still needed[/quote]

I think you might be right, there's something about those Kansas State players. Look at the Rock, Terence Newman, Darren Sproles and our own beloved Larry Brown. I hope Jackson is next.

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[quote=GTripp0012;534010]But if Buzbee was waiting for an opening...this is pretty much as wide open a race as the Redskins have for a starting position.[/quote]

The team loves Buzbee (at least they did last year), but I don't know if they see him as a full time starter.

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Here we go again, the sky is falling. We released JT, we didn't resign a journeyman DE who's 30 yrs. old. The FO is retarded, Vinny sucks, Snyder only cares about money, etc. etc. :blah:

If my figures are correct we have $ 12.2M in cap room, after we were supposed to be in "cap hell" again for the 50th season in a row. There are still the following decent UFAs out there at DE, LB and OT:

OL: Khalif Barnes, Gandy, Runyan, Marvel Smith, St. Clair, Tauscher, Tra Thomas, Ray Willis

DE: Berry, Daniels, a bunch of no names

LB: Derrick Brooks, Donnie Edwards, Mike Peterson

There will also be June 1 cuts.

In the draft we aren't locked in to a specific position or player so we have flexibility to get an immediate impact starter or trade down and get starters in two positions. If Orakpo is available at # 13 we take him, if one of the two top OTs (Monroe or Smith) falls, we take him. Otherwise we drop back into the bottom third of the 1st round and pick up a 2nd rounder. There we should still be able to target either Smith, Britton or Oher at OT, Tyson Jackson or Robert Ayers at DE, or one of the USC OLBs. We may get real lucky and get one of these players in the second if we manage a trade-down well.

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[quote=GTripp0012;534007][B]Olshansky isn't good, and I'm guessing he's looking for multiple years plus guaranteed cash[/B]. No reason to chase for him, in my opinion.

I'd look to add any older guy who will take a two year contract with less than 30% guaranteed. Look at Kevin Carter, Bertrand Berry, Paul Spicer, Marques Douglas, or Anthony Weaver.

Or Daniels at the vet min for a single year is fine.[/quote]

Wasn't he a high draft pick and a starter on a pretty good SD defense for the last few years?? I know he played end in a 3-4 but if he's out there we should take a look at him. I'd be willing to say he's way better than any of our current options.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;533991]Yeah, brilliant bring back a 36 yo end in Daniels. I hope Jackson, Buzbee, Wilson come up big. This smells like Orakpo being drafted.[/quote]
Orakpo will most likely be gone by the time we pick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;534020]Wasn't he a high draft pick and a starter on a pretty good SD defense for the last few years?? I know he played end in a 3-4 but if he's out there we should take a look at him. I'd be willing to say he's way better than any of our current options.[/quote]He was a second rounder in 2005. He did enjoy a good season in 2006, but he's been hurt, and SD never made a half-ass effort to retain him.

He's young, but does not appear to be explosive enough to be worth a lot of guaranteed money.

For a short two-year "show me" deal, we could absolutely do worse though.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;534019]Here we go again, the sky is falling. We released JT, we didn't resign a journeyman DE who's 30 yrs. old. The FO is retarded, Vinny sucks, Snyder only cares about money, etc. etc. :blah:

If my figures are correct we have $ 12.2M in cap room, after we were supposed to be in "cap hell" again for the 50th season in a row. There are still the following decent UFAs out there at DE, LB and OT:

OL: Khalif Barnes, Gandy, Runyan, Marvel Smith, St. Clair, Tauscher, Tra Thomas, Ray Willis

DE: Berry, Daniels, a bunch of no names

LB: Derrick Brooks, Donnie Edwards, Mike Peterson

[B]There will also be June 1 cuts.[/B]

In the draft we aren't locked in to a specific position or player so we have flexibility to get an immediate impact starter or trade down and get starters in two positions. If Orakpo is available at # 13 we take him, if one of the two top OTs (Monroe or Smith) falls, we take him. Otherwise we drop back into the bottom third of the 1st round and pick up a 2nd rounder. There we should still be able to target either Smith, Britton or Oher at OT, Tyson Jackson or Robert Ayers at DE, or one of the USC OLBs. We may get real lucky and get one of these players in the second if we manage a trade-down well.[/quote]No June 1 cuts this year. Last capped year means that there's no added cap relief for waiting until June first to cut.

I suppose there [I]could[/I] be a flurry of activity then, but it would be purely coincidental.

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I wonder if Evans was upset with Washington. From my understanding both teams had similar offers on the table for 2yrs and around $4M. Evans said he wanted to be back with the Skins and wanted a chance to start. So Jason Taylor gets released, therefore as soon as Evans signs a new deal with us, it's his job to lose.

So if we assume the Skins were offering him ~$2M/yr (almost 2.5x what he made last year), and he had his chance to start, why would he relocate 3000 miles to play for a worse defense?

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Not too happy with this. I know that Daniels has a horrific injury history but I do not want to go into the draft with Chris Wilson as the projected starter.

I never thought Evans was really good but I would think he was worth $1.9 per year. Hello Renaldo Wynn and Daniels. It is 2005 all over again...

Is there any chance the Johnson kid out of Tech makes it to our 3rd pick? Although he isn't big enough to be a full time D-end for us. He is basically another Wilson.

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[quote=GMScud;534029]I wonder if Evans was upset with Washington. From my understanding both teams had similar offers on the table for 2yrs and around $4M. Evans said he wanted to be back with the Skins and wanted a chance to start. So Jason Taylor gets released, therefore as soon as Evans signs a new deal with us, it's his job to lose.

So if we assume the Skins were offering him ~$2M/yr (almost 2.5x what he made last year), and he had his chance to start, why would he relocate 3000 miles to play for a worse defense?[/quote]
maybe he was guaranteed to start there?

anyways thought that he was going to decide friday, maybe it was by friday

either way, some people made this guy out to be an awesome player, he's replaceable, just up to us to do it

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[quote=vallin21;533881]I hope this isn't true. Renaldo Wynn is washed up and I'm surprised he hasn't retired.[/quote]

Thank you!!

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[quote=Mattyk72;533968]Seems to me there wasn't much interest in Evans right from the start.[/quote]
Appears to be the most likely scenario. Well since we haven't picked up anyone in FA does this mean that we are looking to draft or just got caught off-guard? I'm sure this has been hypothesized several times over though, will read through.