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KLHJ2 03-11-2009 11:50 AM

Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn?
 
Response to the Pole.

Let bygones be bygones and let them all walk. I want to test this theory that AH can make anyone better. Resign Erasmus James, Draft another DE with our 3rd out of 4 picks. Invite some UFA's to camp and may the best man win. DL issue resolved.

Darrell_Green_28 03-11-2009 11:57 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;535951]Someone here must know who Juan Epstein is, I'm not the oldest person here[/quote]

Actually I would vote for [URL="http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0038214/"][COLOR=#003399]Arnold Horshack[/COLOR][/URL] or [URL="http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0038213/"][COLOR=#003399]Freddie 'Boom Boom' Washington[/COLOR][/URL]

SBXVII 03-11-2009 12:07 PM

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:)


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vallin21 03-11-2009 12:21 PM

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I'd chose Dainels because he has the potential (when healthy) to have the most impact. I still think he has a good 2 yrs left, and feel he can be a productive LDE going into the season.

SmootSmack 03-11-2009 12:37 PM

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[quote=GMScud;535960]I went with Pete Kendall. He's got arthritic knees, but he can still bring it at a high level, plus he's a good locker room guy. He'd be a very solid backup, especially with Randy Thomas coming off neck surgery.[/quote]

He'd be a very versatile backup across the interior, but I don't think he wants to do that. And didn't he throw a fit when asked to do something kind of similar in New York (isn't that how we got him?).

dall-assblows 03-11-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn?
 
i dont want none!!!!! (unless you got buns, hun) THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE.

SFREDSKIN 03-11-2009 03:53 PM

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[quote=GMScud;535943]Juan Epstein? Quien?[/quote]

I voted for Juan!!

GoSkins! 03-11-2009 06:08 PM

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Epstein... Welcome Back.

gibbsisgod 03-12-2009 03:44 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;535987]He'd be a very versatile backup across the interior, but I don't think he wants to do that. And didn't he throw a fit when asked to do something kind of similar in New York (isn't that how we got him?).[/quote]I thought it was over money. The jets needed him to rework his deal and promised him more money the next season and then they didn't follow through.

SmootSmack 03-12-2009 07:26 AM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;536187]I thought it was over money. The jets needed him to rework his deal and promised him more money the next season and then they didn't follow through.[/quote]

True, but I think part of it was also that they wanted to move him to Center

freddyg12 03-12-2009 10:52 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;535956]Gotta go with Daniels, he's the only potential starter on the list.[/quote]

I like PD a lot, but I disagree. I went w/Kendall. there are injury questions w/Daniels & Randy Thomas, we don't know how their recovery from injuries will impact their play. Kendall could be a better option at RG than Thomas, he had a solid 08.

GTripp0012 03-12-2009 11:01 AM

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Pete Kendall is my answer. What a difference it would make for us if Kendall was our first lineman off the bench at either LG or C. It would allow Rinehart to refine his skills at one position (RG), giving him a greater chance at developing into a replacement for Thomas. It would allow us to keep Jansen as a RT (either as a backup or a starter). And it would give us more unit leadership for a unit where the only certainty is that it will be getting a lot younger really fast.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-12-2009 01:15 PM

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Can Kendall even play center? I like Kendall and think he would do a fine job, but considering the age of our starting offensive line, id rather have most of our backups be young guys. Geisinger got abused at LT, but id like to give him a shot to be a backup C/G. There are some interesting OL prospects on our practice squad too. If we can resign kendall and not garauntee him anything, then fine - let him compete in camp with younger guys for a backup spot. If he vastly outperforms the young guys, then he's got a job. But if theres a younger guy even 80% as competent as Kendall, then i'd favor going with the younger guy. Our Practice squad was raided by other teams last year - we cant afford to let that keep happening. we've got to keep our promising, younger guys and if it means letting a slightly better veteran go to ensure the young guy doesnt get snatched off the practice squad, then thats the best long-term decision.

MTK 03-12-2009 01:39 PM

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Yes, Kendall has played center in the NFL

53Fan 03-12-2009 03:31 PM

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I voted for Daniels but the argument for Kendall is a very sound one. I almost voted for him and now I'm starting to think he would be the best choice. Hopefully we can sign them both.

The Goat 03-12-2009 04:15 PM

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I voted for Daniels... if healthy he's a bad-ass run stopper, which explains why Denver and Tenn are interested in him. Hopefully the docs and training staff have a good handle on his recovery and how healthy he can be for us this year.

... I feel like if we address RT the way we should then Kendell is unnecessary. Jansen really shouldn't be a backup at tackle any longer.

CRedskinsRule 03-12-2009 04:30 PM

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Has anybody heard any more information about this?

53Fan 03-12-2009 07:17 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;536408]Has anybody heard any more information about this?[/quote]

I have'nt heard anything since this came out. It's been eerily quiet.

Trample the Elderly 03-12-2009 08:12 PM

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If we can get Daniels and Wynn in a package deal that cost the same amount as Daniels old contract then I say go for it. They can buy us time until our draft pick is up to speed and then you can cut them in the future without a loss and knowing that you've got someone waiting there. Right now with Evans and Taylor gone we need people. Will Buzbee be able to fill that hole? Will Jackson. If they can prove that in camp then no don't sign them. If they can't, well we've got a two for.

mrreddman 03-12-2009 08:16 PM

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KENDALL hands down. He's a great backup and he would allow us more flexibility in the draft and the rest of free agency. We would then only really need a RT on offense, where, as of now we still need 2 lineman. Of course we still would need a DE and SLB. Hopefully we can trade down in the draft and address the remaining 3 needs with our first 3 picks. Even though im still down for signing Crowell and drafting a LB in the 3rd. I like Daniels too but his injury factor makes me pick Kendall. I dont want Wynn if he played for FREE! He brings NOTHING to this team . Hence...the Giants cut him and signed TWO lineman to an already stacked DL. And who the heck is Epstein? Does he come with Horseshack and Boom Boom Washington too?

mrreddman 03-12-2009 08:22 PM

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Of those guys..Kendall hands down! Daniels is coming off a major injury although id still like to have him too as a rotational guy. I just rather have Kendall more as he is still a very descent starter and a great backup who already knows the system. Wynn just absolutely sucks!..Hell no..why do you think the Giants cut him and signed TWO lineman to an already stacked DL? And who the hell is Epstein? Does he come with Horseshack and Boom Boom Washington too?

The Goat 03-12-2009 09:17 PM

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LOL... looks like both your personalities choose Kendall mrreddman :)

mrreddman 03-12-2009 10:15 PM

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sorry that was an accident, thought the first one didnt post. but i guess ya get the point...... WYNN SUCKS. I like Kendall..Daniels is ok at this point but Canty woulda been ideal. Epstein?.....uh no

CRedskinsRule 03-13-2009 06:52 AM

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What about Juan for Vinny's job, that guy could come up with ANYTHING (for a price)

MTK 03-13-2009 07:58 AM

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Negative points for the newb.

skinsfan69 03-16-2009 10:15 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;535355]PLEASE STOP!!! Daniels is finished, and wynn is 40!!! We must get a Pass rushing DE in the draft, it is critical if we want a GREAT D... Also what are we doing to help our Offense?[B] It was the worst part of our team last season (Passing Game), and we have done nothing to help it WTF!!![/quote][/B]

[B]I think the plan is for everyone ( JC, and the 3 young guys) to improve. [/B]

skinsfan69 03-16-2009 10:16 PM

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I say keep Kendall. Hell they should re-sign Kendall and put him at center and get rid of Rabach.

GridIron26 03-17-2009 07:04 PM

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/daniels_might_return_after_all.html]Daniels Might Return After All - Redskins Insider[/url]

53Fan 03-17-2009 08:10 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;537711][url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/daniels_might_return_after_all.html]Daniels Might Return After All - Redskins Insider[/url][/quote]

I'll be glad to have him back. He's upset with vet min. but he is 36 coming off major surgery. Come on back P.D.

GTripp0012 03-17-2009 10:37 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;537463]I say keep Kendall. Hell they should re-sign Kendall and put him at center and get rid of Rabach.[/quote]We would upgrade our line a ton doing that, but Kendall really doesn't like playing Center, and since he's not contractually obligated to play here next year, I wouldn't want to get on his bad side.

Of course, seeing as it might be the difference between him starting and backing up somewhere next year, that might be plausible by May/June.

The Goat 03-17-2009 11:09 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;537832]We would upgrade our line a ton doing that, but Kendall really doesn't like playing Center, and since he's not contractually obligated to play here next year, I wouldn't want to get on his bad side.

Of course, seeing as it might be the difference between him starting and backing up somewhere next year, that might be plausible by May/June.[/quote]

Some clarification on the Kendall over Rabach theme would be much appreciated GTripp. I think Rabach's biggest downfall is his smallish size and lack of power to handle bigger, strong NTs and DTs. Aside from his stupid mental errors last year he's been a fairly smart player. Kendall is even smaller than Rabach and arguably less mobile... is he really a better fit at center? Just to throw another wrench in there do you think Jansen would be an upgrade over Rabach? Jansen vs Rabach @ center?

GTripp0012 03-17-2009 11:24 PM

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[quote=The Goat;537853]Some clarification on the Kendall over Rabach theme would be much appreciated GTripp. I think Rabach's biggest downfall is his smallish size and lack of power to handle bigger, strong NTs and DTs. Aside from his stupid mental errors last year he's been a fairly smart player. Kendall is even smaller than Rabach and arguably less mobile... is he really a better fit at center? Just to throw another wrench in there do you think Jansen would be an upgrade over Rabach? Jansen vs Rabach @ center?[/quote]I don't put a lot of stock into OL size, like, I don't even look at player's weights before I recommend drafting one over another (my process on defensive players is different). Rabach is bad for a plethora of reasons ranging from poor football smarts to communication skills to being dominated by very average talent.

Kendall has been a better guard than a center in his career, and I still think the best solution at center is a relatively high draft pick, 1st or 3rd round. But if Pete would play the position for us, there's really no reason to have Rabach on the team. He's not much of a backup center either.

The Goat 03-17-2009 11:34 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;537861]I don't put a lot of stock into OL size, like, I don't even look at player's weights before I recommend drafting one over another (my process on defensive players is different). Rabach is bad for a plethora of reasons ranging from poor football smarts to communication skills to being dominated by very average talent.

Kendall has been a better guard than a center in his career, and I still think the best solution at center is a relatively high draft pick, 1st or 3rd round. But if Pete would play the position for us, there's really no reason to have Rabach on the team. He's not much of a backup center either.[/quote]

Going off ESPN's scouting page Rabach is a bit undersized at center... lists @ 288 though I believe I've seen him listed at a lighter weight. I have a hard time not believing his relative lack of mass has nothing to do w/ the way he gets thrown around at center. Can't help either that @ 6-4 he's not quite as "squat" as many of the other guys listed high in the scouting.

... i really doubt Rabach is going anywhere so my hope is playing next to Dock and a resurgent RT helps Casey suck less this year. Obviously he's got to fix the mental errors freakin [I]yesterday[/I].

70Chip 03-17-2009 11:47 PM

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Daniels went to Georgia which is good enough for me. Seriuosly,the guy is huge and he is solid against the run and he can move inside on pass rushing downs to spell the bigs. Plus, he should be hungry coming off the dissapointment of last year. SHOULD. You never know if these guys take a year off and find out football wasn't really that big of a deal.

Wynn, yeah who cares.

If Kendall doesn't mind backing up, he's okay with me. I can't imagine that somebody wouldn't be willling to pay him slightly more than we would though. To me Kendall is a little better than people ever gave him credit for. Really good on zone plays. In terms of him at center, didn't he part ways with the Jets because they wanted him to play center? Or was it money? I just remember it reminded me of those Matthau/Lemon movies where they pull shenanigans on each other. Mangini actually stuck Kendall in the rookie dorm at one point.


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