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[quote=GTripp0012;549325]Campbell is too old. There, I said it.

We talk a lot about defensive prospects being less likely to bust here because the environment is good for young defensive players. Well, we're actively working to create the opposite effect for a skill position on the offense. Kelly and Thomas are way more likely to bust when there is no stability at the QB position, and Sanchez simply isn't going to succeed where Campbell failed.

Here's the thing: whatever is good with Sanchez' developmental curve won't matter because it's not like we're all going to be patient with him all of a sudden. Matt Ryan was successful as a rookie because the Falcons spent years, and years trying to put an offense around Vick, and you got Chris Redman in there, and Redman enjoyed some success, and Ryan just happened to be a lot better than Redman.

But the pieces were already in place: two young receivers, a young-improving OL, and a new-refreshing coaching staff. I realize Kelly and Thomas could help with a guy like Sanchez, but they need all the help they can get right now themselves. Sorry, this move has like a 0% chance of success if we pull it off.[/quote]


Hell is freezing over. I agee with Gtripp!!!!!!!! I am with you here bud!!!!

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;549733]Next year will have A LOT more depth for QBs.[/quote]

You are right on. This year is a bad qb year and next year looks different.

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Apart from Sam Bradford, what other college QBs are coming in next year?

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[quote=Beemnseven;549747]Apart from Sam Bradford, what other college QBs are coming in next year?[/quote]McCoy, Tebow as well.

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Sorry, off topic question, but can someone tell me what time the draft starts tomorrow? Samoa is 7 hrs behind eastern time so I hope it does not start @ 12.00pm noon or I will have to get up at 5.00am to catch it live.

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[quote=Hamoskinz;549750]Sorry, off topic question, but can someone tell me what time the draft starts tomorrow? Samoa is 7 hrs behind eastern time so I hope it does not start @ 12.00pm noon or I will have to get up at 5.00am to catch it live.[/quote]

It starts at noon.

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[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4097260"]Staying Pat[/URL]

We'll see if the words hold truth in less than 24 hours.

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[quote=Hamoskinz;549750]Sorry, off topic question, but can someone tell me what time the draft starts tomorrow? Samoa is 7 hrs behind eastern time so I hope it does not start @ 12.00pm noon or I will have to get up at 5.00am to catch it live.[/quote]

The draft itself starts at 4 PM Eastern, 9 AM Samoa.

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[quote=Lotus;549758][B]The draft itself starts at 4 PM Eastern[/B], 9 AM Samoa.[/quote]

Wait What? Since when does the draft start at 4?

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[quote=WaldSkins;549764]Wait What? Since when does the draft start at 4?[/quote]
Its true 4pm eastern. I was thinking that it started later than usual this year.

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That's right. 4pm eastern.

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[quote=Lotus;549743]You are right on. This year is a bad qb year and next year looks different.[/quote]

Which is why Sanchez decided to come out this year instead of taking his coaches advice and playing his senior year.

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Don't worry, I'll be waking up at 5 am to catch the fireworks.

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[quote=itvnetop;549756][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4097260"]Staying Pat[/URL]

We'll see if the words hold truth in less than 24 hours.[/quote]

Notice he said he's not trading next year's [U]first round pick[/U]. He never said anything about next year's 2nd, 3rd, or a current player...

Also from the article:

[quote]He noted that the only time his club recently did swap the following year's No. 1 pick, it was to acquire quarterback Jason Campbell in 2005 -- "and it worked out quite well," Snyder said.[/quote]

So well in fact, that they can't wait to get rid of him.

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Thanks for the info. Its too early to drink beer at 9am, considering I need to get drunk by the time we trade up to get Sanchez. Cheers and don't get too disappointed if we trade our 1st pick this year, next year's and our 3rd to get Sanchez... Try to see the silver lining (if any).

HTTR

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[quote=Hamoskinz;549834]Thanks for the info. Its too early to drink beer at 9am, considering I need to get drunk by the time we trade up to get Sanchez. Cheers and don't get too disappointed if we trade our 1st pick this year, next year's and our 3rd to get Sanchez... Try to see the silver lining (if any).

HTTR[/quote]

Dude, I'll bet we trade down. I really don't see a trade up. So it should be 11 o'clock your time before we pick if we stand pat and it may be mid-afternoon for you before we actually make a pick. I'd go ahead and chill that beer now. :)

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[quote=53Fan;549773]Which is why Sanchez decided to come out this year instead of taking his coaches advice and playing his senior year.[/quote]

Totally agree...he would have been just one among several (better) prospects next year. Smart kid...doesn't mean there's good football to be had there.

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[B][quote]Partly due to the Skins themselves, Campbell has had to learn something like 7 offensive systems in the past 9 years. I don't know whats going on in Campbells head, but on some level, thats had to have some sort of affect on him.[/quote][/B]

BHA, I'm not trying to be a dirt ball but I'm kinda tired of all the excuses. I'm not blaming you I used them also and it all started with Ramsey. Poor guy had his bell rung too many time he got gun shy. QB's always took hits through out their careers. Ramsey still sucks and he's been to many different teams. I honestly like JC's personality. I like that he's calm but he seems way too calm. If given a decent 2 min. drill he would need 4. He's just one of those people that is never in a hurry. The friend who you complain about taking his time getting ready to go out. I like JC but even last yr felt change was needed, but who do we use? Collins, I don't think so. Colt was a Rookie and probably still has things he needs to learn.

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[quote=Hamoskinz;549834]Thanks for the info. Its too early to drink beer at 9am, considering I need to get drunk by the time we trade up to get Sanchez. Cheers and don't get too disappointed if we trade our 1st pick this year, next year's and our 3rd to get Sanchez... Try to see the silver lining (if any).

HTTR[/quote]

To early to drink at 9AM? What kind of beer drinker are you?

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[quote=SBXVII;549849][B][/B]

BHA, I'm not trying to be a dirt ball but [B]I'm kinda tired of all the excuses.[/B] I'm not blaming you I used them also and it all started with Ramsey. Poor guy had his bell rung too many time he got gun shy. QB's always took hits through out their careers. Ramsey still sucks and he's been to many different teams. I honestly like JC's personality. I like that he's calm but he seems way too calm. If given a decent 2 min. drill he would need 4. He's just one of those people that is never in a hurry. The friend who you complain about taking his time getting ready to go out. I like JC but even last yr felt change was needed, but who do we use? Collins, I don't think so. Colt was a Rookie and probably still has things he needs to learn.[/quote]

Amen. I said this in another thread, but on some level I'm really trying to convince myself that drafting Sanchez might not be such a bad idea after all.

And you make a good point about Jason's demeanor. I think we all have to ask ourselves this question: What are the actual chances that Jason is destined to be an absolute superstar headed for Super Bowl MVP awards and a spot in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't someone like that have to show us more than what we've seen? Even when things around him aren't perfect, like the best O-line in the league and Pro Bowl wideouts? The truly great quarterbacks have something that makes everyone around them better.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Jason Campbell isn't that quarterback, and that he may never be?

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[quote=Lotus;549841]Dude, I'll bet we trade down. I really don't see a trade up. So it should be 11 o'clock your time before we pick if we stand pat and it may be mid-afternoon for you before we actually make a pick. I'd go ahead and chill that beer now. :)[/quote]

I agree Lotus. It's either stand pat or trade down. In fact I'm probably going to Nagshead again tomorrow and enjoy the beach. That is if I don't stay up too late. Should be home around 6 when the Redskins are making up there mind whether to trade down or make the pick. :)

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[quote=53Fan;549886]I agree Lotus. It's either stand pat or trade down. In fact I'm probably going to Nagshead again tomorrow and enjoy the beach. That is if I don't stay up too late. Should be home around 6 when the Redskins are making up there mind whether to trade down or make the pick. :)[/quote]

That sounds like an excellent plan and I'll bet you don't miss a thing Redskin-wise. Enjoy!

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[quote=53Fan;549886]I agree Lotus. It's either stand pat or trade down. In fact I'm probably going to Nagshead again tomorrow and enjoy the beach. That is if I don't stay up too late. Should be home around 6 when the Redskins are making up there mind whether to trade down or make the pick. :)[/quote]

That sounds fun...can't say I'm gonna be able to stay away from the tv. I like to predict who we take after each pick and see how it changes.

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On a funny side note another reason to move up and draft him would be from Wiki.....

[B][QUOTE]In April 2006, Sanchez was arrested after a female USC student accused him of sexual assault.[12][13] He was released from jail the following day, after posting $200,000 bail, but USC placed him on interim suspension that suspended him from the football team yet permitted him to take his semester finals, albeit separate from the general student body and under the supervision of campus security.[14] On June 3, 2006, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office announced no charges would be filed against Sanchez due to a "lack of sufficient evidence beyond a reasonable doubt", noting the case was "essentially a 'one-on-one' allegation."[15][16] The District Attorney's office released the charge evaluation worksheet that said the alleged victim in the case said she consented to kissing and petting on Sanchez's bed, and that she repeatedly refused Sanchez's advances to have intercourse with her but continued the other activities with him when he complied; the woman later spent time with other students without mentioning an incident and later told her mother who reportedly called police later in the morning.[12][13] The woman involved left the university.[17] Sanchez was required to take a rape awareness class at USC.[18] USC reinstated Sanchez but he remained subject to team-related discipline for underage drinking and using fake identification on the night he was arrested.[15] Sanchez had been previously detained but not arrested by USC's Department of Public Safety for allegedly breaking a window at a fraternity party. Prosecuters were not allowed to use Sanchez's record of high school activities of a similar nature in pursuing cases against him.[14]

[/QUOTE][/B]

I know you guys are gunna blast me saying it's not funny, but to have two, not one, but two QB's on the team with similar issues in college. funny.

Colt Brennan from Wiki.....

[B][QUOTE]On January 28, 2004, Brennan entered the dorm room of a female UC student, uninvited, and, according to the victim, "exposed himself and fondled her',"[5] a charge which Brennan denied.[6] Brennan, who was intoxicated at the time of the incident, was arrested and eventually convicted of charges of felony burglary and trespassing[7] (serving one week in jail along with probation until he graduated from college), but a guilty verdict for unlawful sexual contact was vacated by the court for lack of evidence.[1] After the incident, which was caught up in the middle of the time when UC was flooded with other accusations of sex crimes and revelations of wild recruiting parties involving Colorado football players, he was kicked off the team[/QUOTE][/B]

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No, I don't think that shit is funny. Saw athletes get away w/ all kinds of terrible stuff in college when the athletic director/staff got involved...

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[quote=The Goat;549888]That sounds fun...can't say I'm gonna be able to stay away from the tv. I like to predict who we take after each pick and see how it changes.[/quote]

Me too. For me the first day of the draft is the greatest day of football between February and September. I don't want to miss anything. After this weekend it is a football desert until fall.

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[quote=Lotus;549894]Me too. For me the first day of the draft is the greatest day of football between February and September. I don't want to miss anything. [B]After this weekend it is a football desert until fall.[/B][/quote]

Truer words...after the draft I always get into spring/summer mode, waiting on football to usher in the next season.

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[quote=Beemnseven;549883]Amen. I said this in another thread, but on some level I'm really trying to convince myself that drafting Sanchez might not be such a bad idea after all.

And you make a good point about Jason's demeanor. I think we all have to ask ourselves this question: What are the actual chances that Jason is destined to be an absolute superstar headed for Super Bowl MVP awards and a spot in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't someone like that have to show us more than what we've seen? Even when things around him aren't perfect, like the best O-line in the league and Pro Bowl wideouts? The truly great quarterbacks have something that makes everyone around them better.

[B]Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Jason Campbell isn't that quarterback, and that he may never be[/B]?[/quote]

While we are applying that absurd standard to our quarterbacks, running them out of town for not being generationally elite when, really, maybe three guys per generation actually are, teams are winning superbowls with guys like Brad Johnson, or Eli Manning, or Dilfer, or Brady and Roethlesberger in their first go rounds, or getting there with reclamation projects like Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon.

Does anyone here think Jason is going to the hall of fame? That he'll ever even be top 10 yet alone elite? That his well-discussed flaws can be coached away or overcome through perserverence? I don't, but if there's any team that should have the historical perspective to recognize that you don't necessarily need elite quarterback talent to be successful, it's us right?

In my opinion, Sanchez, like Cutler, would be an upgrade over Campbell. But that's an irrelevant standard as well. The question is not is there some theoretical quarterback better than the one we have? Instead, we have to ask is someone like Sanchez better than Campbell and the 2 or 3 other critical players you forego the right to acquire.

I just think when you invest as much as we already have in Campbell, both in terms of time and draft picks, you have to see things to their conclusion.

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[quote=djnemo65;549905]While we are applying that absurd standard to our quarterbacks, running them out of town for not being generationally elite when, really, maybe three guys per generation actually are, teams are winning superbowls with guys like Brad Johnson, or Eli Manning, or Dilfer, or Brady and Roethlesberger in their first go rounds, or getting there with reclamation projects like Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon.

Does anyone here think Jason is going to the hall of fame? That he'll ever even be top 10 yet alone elite? That his well-discussed flaws can be coached away or overcome through perserverence? I don't, but if there's any team that should have the historical perspective to recognize that you don't necessarily need elite quarterback talent to be successful, it's us right?

In my opinion, Sanchez, like Cutler, would be an upgrade over Campbell. But that's an irrelevant standard as well. The question is not is there some theoretical quarterback better than the one we have? Instead, we have to ask is someone like Sanchez better than Campbell and the 2 or 3 other critical players you forego the right to acquire.

I just think when you invest as much as we already have in Campbell, both in terms of time and draft picks, you have to see things to their conclusion.[/quote]

Nice post...I said some similar things about the true scarcity of elite QBs some time ago but the discussion just got minced up into semantics and whatnot.

...I still hope JC is our QB for the future and Danny is forced to eat humble pie. And just the same I'm very curious to see all the reaction when Jason has a better season than both Cutler (on his new team w/o all the talent around him and in his new division that has some serious defenses) and Sanchez, wherever he might land.

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[quote=The Goat;549892]No, I don't think that shit is funny. Saw athletes get away w/ all kinds of terrible stuff in college when the athletic director/staff got involved...[/quote]

I didn't go to college so I can't say I have seen anything. but at the high school level it's sad to see kids get into trouble and get either suspended or kicked out while the let one of the kids that play on a team get into trouble and it's brushed under the carpet. So I guess I agree.

but I have also seen the bad side of these types of crimes where the girl was totally a willing participant in the activities then later had second thoughts and called the police. Or her parents found out some how, usually when they find out they are pregnant, then the girl being scared tells her parents she was not a willing participant and did not want it to happen.

In Colts situation where he supposedly broke into the females room, if true, I hope he was drunk and had no idea what he was doing. Only the police know what the real story may have been. Did she wake up to him fondling her and scream and call the police or is it more like she helped him sneak into her dorm window, later the school found out and she was afraid she would get kicked out so the elaberate story?

In Sanchez's situation it could be date rap but why go to the dorm room? To eliminate any chance you might go to far with something or something might happen that you don't want to happen simply say no I can't go to your dorm room I'll see you tomorrow. but instead they both were alone in a dorm room. Then second thoughts hit the next day and she talks to her mother about what happened and as a parent I know I would be pissed and call the police.

I don't want to sound like I'm blaming the ladies. The true a-hole that rapes a lady needs to be locked up. I just have issues with the situations where the guys thinks all is well and the girl wants to do it also then finds himself being the suspect in an investigation.

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[quote=SBXVII;549909]I didn't go to college so I can't say I have seen anything. but at the high school level it's sad to see kids get into trouble and get either suspended or kicked out while the let one of the kids that play on a team get into trouble and it's brushed under the carpet. So I guess I agree.

but I have also seen the bad side of these types of crimes where the girl was totally a willing participant in the activities then later had second thoughts and called the police. Or her parents found out some how, usually when they find out they are pregnant, then the girl being scared tells her parents she was not a willing participant and did not want it to happen.

In Colts situation where he supposedly broke into the females room, if true, I hope he was drunk and had no idea what he was doing. Only the police know what the real story may have been. Did she wake up to him fondling her and scream and call the police or is it more like she helped him sneak into her dorm window, later the school found out and she was afraid she would get kicked out so the elaberate story?

In Sanchez's situation it could be date rap but why go to the dorm room? To eliminate any chance you might go to far with something or something might happen that you don't want to happen simply say no I can't go to your dorm room I'll see you tomorrow. but instead they both were alone in a dorm room. Then second thoughts hit the next day and she talks to her mother about what happened and as a parent I know I would be pissed and call the police.

I don't want to sound like I'm blaming the ladies. The true a-hole that rapes a lady needs to be locked up. I just have issues with the situations where the guys thinks all is well and the girl wants to do it also then finds himself being the suspect in an investigation.[/quote]

I hear you...there are injustices from both situations no doubt.

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[quote=The Goat;549908]Nice post...I said some similar things about the true scarcity of elite QBs some time ago but the discussion just got minced up into semantics and whatnot.

...I still hope JC is our QB for the future and Danny is forced to eat humble pie. [B]And just the same I'm very curious to see all the reaction when Jason has a better season than both Cutler (on his new team w/o all the talent around him and in his new division that has some serious defenses) and Sanchez, wherever he might land.[/B][/quote]

Heck yes! :food-smil

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[quote=djnemo65;549905]While we are applying that absurd standard to our quarterbacks, running them out of town for not being generationally elite when, really, maybe three guys per generation actually are, teams are winning superbowls with guys like Brad Johnson, or Eli Manning, or Dilfer, or Brady and Roethlesberger in their first go rounds, or getting there with reclamation projects like Kurt Warner or Rich Gannon.

Does anyone here think Jason is going to the hall of fame? That he'll ever even be top 10 yet alone elite? That his well-discussed flaws can be coached away or overcome through perserverence? I don't, but if there's any team that should have the historical perspective to recognize that you don't necessarily need elite quarterback talent to be successful, it's us right?

In my opinion, Sanchez, like Cutler, would be an upgrade over Campbell. But that's an irrelevant standard as well. The question is not is there some theoretical quarterback better than the one we have? Instead, we have to ask is someone like Sanchez better than Campbell and the 2 or 3 other critical players you forego the right to acquire.

[B]I just think when you invest as much as we already have in Campbell, both in terms of time and draft picks, you have to see things to their conclusion.[/B][/quote]

I think the conclusion has come and gone. Prior to last yr people were complaining about his slow throwing motion, that he can't read defenses, and does not throw the ball prior to the WR making his cut. He's had what 5 yrs and started 4. Didn't Eli come out the same yr? I understand Eli has had the same offense for several yrs running but JC should be showing some improvement in his ability to read defenses. Improvement in the speed at which he releases the ball. Improvement in his abiblity to get the ball out prior to the WR making his cut so the ball will be where it needs to be when the WR gets there with out having to reach behind to get it or stop. I don't care what system he was in each one he needed to be able to go through all his reads and he's still slow at doing that. 5 yrs. How much longer do you want? 1 more yr? Maybe resign him and see what he has after 3 yrs in the same system?

The things I have mentioned we should have seen improvement from yr to yr. 5yrs later and he still has the same issues. Oh wait he did cut down on his interceptions. He's basically a decent QB not a great QB. or at the least a great backup.

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[quote=SBXVII;549917]I think the conclusion has come and gone. Prior to last yr people were complaining about his slow throwing motion, that he can't read defenses, and does not throw the ball prior to the WR making his cut. He's had what 5 yrs and [B]started 4.[/B] Didn't Eli come out the same yr? I understand Eli has had the same offense for several yrs running but JC should be showing some improvement in his ability to read defenses. Improvement in the speed at which he releases the ball. Improvement in his abiblity to get the ball out prior to the WR making his cut so the ball will be where it needs to be when the WR gets there with out having to reach behind to get it or stop. I don't care what system he was in each one he needed to be able to go through all his reads and he's still slow at doing that. 5 yrs. How much longer do you want? 1 more yr? Maybe resign him and see what he has after 3 yrs in the same system?

The things I have mentioned we should have seen improvement from yr to yr. 5yrs later and he still has the same issues. Oh wait he did cut down on his interceptions. He's basically a decent QB not a great QB. or at the least a great backup.[/quote]

He's started 2 and a half years with one year cut short by injury.

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[quote=SBXVII;549917][/B]

I think the conclusion has come and gone. Prior to last yr people were complaining about his slow throwing motion, that he can't read defenses, and does not throw the ball prior to the WR making his cut. He's had what 5 yrs and started 4. Didn't Eli come out the same yr? I understand Eli has had the same offense for several yrs running but JC should be showing some improvement in his ability to read defenses. Improvement in the speed at which he releases the ball. Improvement in his abiblity to get the ball out prior to the WR making his cut so the ball will be where it needs to be when the WR gets there with out having to reach behind to get it or stop. I don't care what system he was in each one he needed to be able to go through all his reads and he's still slow at doing that. 5 yrs. How much longer do you want? 1 more yr? Maybe resign him and see what he has after 3 yrs in the same system?

The things I have mentioned we should have seen improvement from yr to yr. 5yrs later and he still has the same issues. Oh wait he did cut down on his interceptions. He's basically a decent QB not a great QB or a great backup.[/quote]

With all respect, you've got things scrambled. Eli came out in 2004, JC came out in 2005. You talk about 5 years but 5 years ago JC was a junior at Auburn. He sat behind Brunell for some time. Last year was his first full year as a starter. JC has seriously improved when given the chance. His improvement is better than you credit and his NFL time line is shorter than you suggest.

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[quote=mredskins;549301]Wasn't Matt Lienart more celebrated coming out USC and he sucks. I just don't want t have to start all over at QB and have gaping holes in other areas. This is a mess.[/quote]

Ok why dont we just trade for the other USC QB in Arizona then. LOL

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[quote=Beemnseven;549883]Amen. I said this in another thread, but on some level I'm really trying to convince myself that drafting Sanchez might not be such a bad idea after all.

And you make a good point about Jason's demeanor. I think we all have to ask ourselves this question: What are the actual chances that Jason is destined to be an absolute superstar headed for Super Bowl MVP awards and a spot in the Hall of Fame? Doesn't someone like that have to show us more than what we've seen? Even when things around him aren't perfect, like the best O-line in the league and Pro Bowl wideouts? The truly great quarterbacks have something that makes everyone around them better.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Jason Campbell isn't that quarterback, and that he may never be?[/quote]

Hang on now we need a super star QB to win a Super Bowl? Well Warren Moon was is a HOF QB and he never played in a Super Bowl.

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[quote=Beemnseven;549883]Amen. I said this in another thread, but on some level I'm really trying to convince myself that drafting Sanchez might not be such a bad idea after all.

And you make a good point about Jason's demeanor. I think we all have to ask ourselves this question: [B]What are the actual chances that Jason is destined to be an absolute superstar headed for Super Bowl MVP awards and a spot in the Hall of Fame?[/B] Doesn't someone like that have to show us more than what we've seen? Even when things around him aren't perfect, like the best O-line in the league and Pro Bowl wideouts? The truly great quarterbacks have something that makes everyone around them better.

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, Jason Campbell isn't that quarterback, and that he may never be?[/quote]

We do not need JC to be that. Peyton Mannings are few and far between. We just need JC to be a solid starter that we can build a winner around. As far as I am concerned, signs are favorable that JC can fill this more realistic role.

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The hope that he will be able to do what Campbell has failed at, being a leader, and Super bowl rings.

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[quote=Superman13732;549925]The hope that he will be able to do what Campbell has failed at, being a leader, and Super bowl rings.[/quote]Mark Sanchez? Please, keep dreaming.