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Brian Orakpo 05-14-2009 02:53 PM

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[quote=Sonny9TD;557322]Well that's interesting. We still need a QB but it's still interesting. Brian O. is the real deal I think.[/quote]

Thats the 2nd part to why this could really work out for us. Since the Skins didnt have the ammo to trade up for Sanchez and Orakpo fell in our laps it now sets up the Skins to get a QB in the insane class of 2010.

Its pretty crazy to think that just because we didnt have that 2nd rounder we got a steal in Orakpo and since we didnt reach for Sanchez we can get a QB in 2010 if Campbell doesnt pan out. Id rather have Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, or Snead over Sanchez.

MTK 05-14-2009 02:54 PM

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Well we also have to consider if they wanted Sanchez bad enough they could have coughed up multiple picks next year, nothing was stopping them from doing that. (Except for a little common sense, maybe they have some after all?)

BigHairedAristocrat 05-14-2009 02:59 PM

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Several weeks ago I remember reading part of an article where the writer said there was some clause in NFL rules that said if a team traded a player, then the player was back on the same by the time the next season started, the players original team had to give the draft pick back.

This was an article on extremeskins.com/breaking news. I'm assuming that since no one else is talking about this, then it means that article must have come out on april fools, so it was just a joke. Anyone ever hear of anything like that?

Also, techinically, we "released" Mark Brunell, but the way we did it, we were still able to get a 7th round Compensatory pick for him, as if he were a FA - is there any way the same could apply to how we handled Taylors contract?

I realize both those thoughts represent nothing more than grasping at straws, but it would be nice if we got some sort of compensation for that loser.

Brian Orakpo 05-14-2009 03:02 PM

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[quote=dmek25;557337]if Taylor had 10+ sacks last year, would any of you guys sing the praises of a job well done by Cerrato? i kind of doubt it. we needed a defensive end, and they brought in the best player available( at least in their eyes)[/quote]

I liked the move and if Taylor wasnt hurt he would of had a pretty good year imo. The game he had week 16 vs the Eagles was the main reason why we won that game imo.

I give Cerrato credit for making a move like that when we needed help at the position badly. I also give him credit for drafting Orakpo and not screwing that pick up. Cerrato's track record is against him but he has done some nice things in DC over the last 2 years.

SmootSmack 05-14-2009 04:04 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;557498]Several weeks ago I remember reading part of an article where the writer said there was some clause in NFL rules that said if a team traded a player, then the player was back on the same by the time the next season started, the players original team had to give the draft pick back.

This was an article on extremeskins.com/breaking news. I'm assuming that since no one else is talking about this, then it means that article must have come out on april fools, so it was just a joke. Anyone ever hear of anything like that?[/quote]

LOL. You're thinking of this

[url]http://phinphanatic.com/2009/04/01/signing-jason-taylor-will-cost-2nd-round-pick/[/url]

I guess ES linked to it, you gotta stop taking ES so seriously.

[quote]Also, techinically, we "released" Mark Brunell, but the way we did it, we were still able to get a 7th round Compensatory pick for him, as if he were a FA - is there any way the same could apply to how we handled Taylors contract?

I realize both those thoughts represent nothing more than grasping at straws, but it would be nice if we got some sort of compensation for that loser.[/quote]

I don't believe we released Brunell

skinsfan69 05-14-2009 05:40 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;557323]So none of our FA's have been smart moves?

How about Fletcher for starters?[/quote]

They do hit on some but to be honest Fletcher was a Greg Williams move all the way. It's not like bringing in Fletch. was this brillant find. He wanted to play with his old defensive coordinator. Actually if they would've just paid Pierce then we wouldn't have the need to sign Fletcher in the first place.

I think the FO actually does a decent job of drafting guys. I just wish they'd do it more often and then reward the guys that deserve it.

SBXVII 05-14-2009 05:46 PM

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To be honest, someone joking said something about JT coming to us then leaving after 1 yr. Unfortunatly that was a chance we had to take. No one knew we would have a DE go down in training camp and need a replacement, but....people have been clamoring about needing back up lineman.

I sucks that we only had him one yr and got very little production, lost 2 picks (wasn't it a 2nd and a 6th), and came up empty in the end. One would only hope the league would look at it and say "somethings not right, lets give the Skins a pick to compensate." but that won't happen.

We got schooled....yet again by the Tuna. now I can only hope whatever picks he got out of it suck and he has to let them go. lol.

Paintrain 05-14-2009 06:46 PM

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[quote=Brian Orakpo;557499]I liked the move and if Taylor wasnt hurt he would of had a pretty good year imo. The game he had week 16 vs the Eagles was the main reason why we won that game imo.

I give Cerrato credit for making a move like that when we needed help at the position badly. I also give him credit for drafting Orakpo and not screwing that pick up. Cerrato's track record is against him but he has done some nice things in DC over the last 2 years.[/quote]
Yeah, a lot of Redskins fans get convenient memories after the fact. There was a high level of anticipation and excitement once we made the deal last summer. Nothing in Taylor's history would have predicted 2 leg injuries in the first 6 weeks of him being a Redskin.

tryfuhl 05-14-2009 07:22 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;557161]Not if his number one reason is to retire after this year as a Miami Dolphin.[/quote]

He could've done that anyways.

tryfuhl 05-14-2009 07:25 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;557179]Seriously, who cares.

I guess the Skins are the only team in the league that have moves that don't work out.[/quote]

We have some of the most glaringly obvious. This one by itself, no big deal; but then we're missing the forest for the trees if that's all that we're looking at. This one did seem like the most "sure" out of our gaffs though.

Brian Orakpo 05-14-2009 08:22 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;557615]He could've done that anyways.[/quote]

Yeah he could have. Honestly im shocked he didnt sign with the Patriots. Even before he was released I had a feeling he would be and sign with New England. I guess he really likes Miami because you would think he would take a shot at getting a championship. Then when he did retire he could sign a 1 day contract and retire a Dolphin.

Pocket$ $traight 05-14-2009 10:06 PM

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I am not sure that I understand the animosity towards Taylor. Being upset with the front office makes sense because it turned out that they grossly overpaid for the guy. In their defense, they never expected to only have him for one injury plagued year.

For the people who are mad at Taylor. What did he ever do to us besides play through two potential season ending injuries? Are you the same people who criticized his lack of production even though he was hurt and not a true 4-3 end? Moving him to Strongside backer wouldn't have worked either. It was obvious that he was not going to live up to his contract here.

For the people who wonder why he would go back and play for a lower salary you have underestimated his pride. We aren't talking about Dana Stubblefield. This guy is a warrior and doesn't want the last memory of him being hurt and misused.

It was best for all parties that he moved on. I wish him luck. Personally, I think he took a lot of unfair criticism.

MTK 05-14-2009 11:54 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;557598]They do hit on some but to be honest Fletcher was a Greg Williams move all the way. It's not like bringing in Fletch. was this brillant find. He wanted to play with his old defensive coordinator. Actually if they would've just paid Pierce then we wouldn't have the need to sign Fletcher in the first place.

I think the FO actually does a decent job of drafting guys. I just wish they'd do it more often and then reward the guys that deserve it.[/quote]

Was Fletcher a good move or not? That's all it boils down to. If he didn't work out I doubt you would be so ho-hum about it.

tryfuhl 05-15-2009 12:29 AM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;557639]I am not sure that I understand the animosity towards Taylor. Being upset with the front office makes sense because it turned out that they grossly overpaid for the guy. In their defense, they never expected to only have him for one injury plagued year.

For the people who are mad at Taylor. What did he ever do to us besides play through two potential season ending injuries? Are you the same people who criticized his lack of production even though he was hurt and not a true 4-3 end? Moving him to Strongside backer wouldn't have worked either. It was obvious that he was not going to live up to his contract here.

For the people who wonder why he would go back and play for a lower salary you have underestimated his pride. We aren't talking about Dana Stubblefield. This guy is a warrior and doesn't want the last memory of him being hurt and misused.

It was best for all parties that he moved on. I wish him luck. Personally, I think he took a lot of unfair criticism.[/quote]

Seemed like he just didn't care, didn't wanna be here, and hell maybe he didn't, but he wanted a trade too. I commend him on playing where he wants for lesser money though, he's gotten what he needs money-wise from the game. His interviews and stuff just made it seem like he didn't care and had a sour attitude towards playing here.

Ruhskins 05-15-2009 01:00 AM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;557639]I am not sure that I understand the animosity towards Taylor. Being upset with the front office makes sense because it turned out that they grossly overpaid for the guy. In their defense, they never expected to only have him for one injury plagued year.[/quote]

My problem with Taylor is that since the beginning (as it appears now) he didn't want to come here. If he was so "loyal" to the Dolphins, he should've sucked it up and stay with the Dolphins. The Redskins didn't want to re-structure his salary and were willing to pay him 8 mil, even after the terrible season he had due to injuries, yet he still cried b/c the team wanted him to show up for camp.

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;557639]For the people who are mad at Taylor. What did he ever do to us besides play through two potential season ending injuries? Are you the same people who criticized his lack of production even though he was hurt and not a true 4-3 end? Moving him to Strongside backer wouldn't have worked either. It was obvious that he was not going to live up to his contract here.[/quote]

I never criticized his lack of production. Like I said, if he was loyal to Miami he should've stayed there. If not, he should've sucked it up, (get paid 8 mil, poor guy), and make it to training camp (which he was being paid for!)

[quote=Pocket$ $traight;557639]For the people who wonder why he would go back and play for a lower salary you have underestimated his pride. We aren't talking about Dana Stubblefield. This guy is a warrior and doesn't want the last memory of him being hurt and misused.[/quote]

If he was such a warrior, he should've handled Parcells ignoring him. And if was such a "character" guy, maybe he should've done what people always criticize players for not doing, which is to fulfill his contract.

People here complaint SO much about the FO, yet in my eyes, here's a player that the front office paid a lot of for, had the misfortune of having a plagued-riden year, and he didn't work out because [U]he wasn't happy[/U]. Please, complain about getting a bust like Archuleta or a nut-case like Brandon Lloyd. I wanted Jason Taylor here this year, because I thought he had it in him to have a rebound this year when healthy. Well turns out he wasn't happy and he was cut. So screw him.

Oh yeah, and the next person that mentions the overused line "the Redskins got schooled by Parcells", don't forget to add that Parcells also schooled Jason Taylor.

skins89moss 05-15-2009 02:10 AM

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I read every post on Jason Taylor to the Dolphins. Look we signed him because we needed a pass rusher and we had the training camp injuries to our DE's. The thing is JT is not big enough to line up in a 4-3 DE position. I'm sure his preseason injury did not help his cause since he did little off season training due to his apperance on Dancing with the Stars. Will watching Taylor during the season he was getting blocked by a TE at times and he still could not get pressure. He played hurt and tried his best but it just wasn't a productive season for him. He did us a favor by refusing to show up at off season work-outs cause he even said he wasn't worth 8million dollars.

Let hope we learn not to panic when a player is lost for the season lets have confidence that his backup can get the job done. Thats why they have backups right?

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 06:32 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;557332]You mean the Redskins? How?[/quote]

Obvious to me. But hey maybe this is the year. But that has already been said for the past 2-3 years. But if Colt Brennan or Todd Collins were playing you probably would want to keep them too since it would be difficult to have less skills than JC. But we will see this season. I'll be here to eat crow if needed. At least we would be in the playoffs if i did have to.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 06:38 AM

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Brian O. taking Jason Taylor's place is going to be a good move.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 07:29 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;557338]Don't bother, he's anti-JC all the way[/quote]

So if people don't agree with your opinion you say don't bother. Pretty arrogant. Not surprising from a TK. I really don't want to rehash JC again. I'm just hoping we win. Even with JC.

SmootSmack 05-15-2009 07:38 AM

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[quote=Sonny9TD;557733]So if people don't agree with your opinion you say don't bother. Pretty arrogant. Not surprising from a TK. I really don't want to rehash JC again. I'm just hoping we win. Even with JC.[/quote]

What's a TK?

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 08:03 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;557735]What's a TK?[/quote]

Hey SmootSmack. What's happening. He knows what I mean. But I'm here for discussion purposes. As you know we can agree to disagree with some respect at least. Hope you're doing well Smootsmack. I enjoyed our discussion when we disagreed on a topic but debated with some respect. I forgot what it was now. Ha. Hope to chat with you some more unless the other administrator
wants to kick me off for stating how I feel.

Hogs!

MTK 05-15-2009 08:32 AM

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[quote=Sonny9TD;557733]So if people don't agree with your opinion you say don't bother. Pretty arrogant. Not surprising from a TK. [B]I really don't want to rehash JC again. I'm just hoping we win. Even with JC[/B].[/quote]

Neither do I, that's why I said don't bother.

Not sure what TK means, just spell it out. No need to be obtuse.

CRedskinsRule 05-15-2009 08:54 AM

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TK
Toon Killer
Top Kat
Tool Kid
Time Kadet
Thrifty knickle

Man, I can't even think of anything to fit with it...

Coff 05-15-2009 09:09 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;557354]I am tired of the FA bashing...

Look around the league. Percentage-wise we are as good as anybody at hitting on these guys. Gross gain we are the best in the league by a wide margin because of our overall volume. Complain about our trading of draft picks. At least that holds water.[/quote]

I assume you meant FO bashing, not FA bashing?

You're absolutely right about the trading of draft picks, and that's what bothers a lot of fans who are critical of the FO. Yes, the Skins make some great free agent moves and when they actually use their draft picks, they do quite well. We are constantly drawing impact players out of the draft, which is what makes the flippant trading of draft picks so painful. I'm not suggesting I'm absolutely against trading draft picks; they're a commodity like anything else, and if handled properly any commodity can be effectively traded. The problem is that twice in 3 seasons the Skins, in a virtual panic, traded away draft picks for players who did absolutely nothing (TJ Duckett and Jason Taylor). That's not a mistake that should be made twice, especially not in 3 years. Draft picks, even 3rd and 4th rounders, are exceptionally valuable in a league in which, because of injuries, depth is a necessity, and because of the Cap, the draft is the resource for depth.

This discussion is about Jason Taylor and the Jason Talor trade was a collossally stupid one. Regardless, anyone who criticizes the Redskins for making the move will face an instantaneous avalanche of blowhards censuring the individual as nothing more than a reactionary who always condemns the front office, and that's what [I]I'm sick of. [/I]Just because one criticizes this trade, as well as the FO's proclivity for making such trades, does not mean one lacks objectivity. If there is a thread about a player whose tenure in Washington was less than successful, than of course there will be criticism and the such criticism is proper and acceptable. On the other hand, if a thread is about the a player's positive affect on the team, then accolades will be awarded to the FO. That's how it is and that's how it [I]should[/I] be.

What I fail to understand is why poeple on this thread are referring to effective moves the FO has made in the past, when that has nothing to do with the Jason Taylor debacle. They're simply anticipating an argument that is not being made.

Pocket$ $traight 05-15-2009 09:10 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;557692]My problem with Taylor is that since the beginning (as it appears now) he didn't want to come here. If he was so "loyal" to the Dolphins, he should've sucked it up and stay with the Dolphins. The Redskins didn't want to re-structure his salary and were willing to pay him 8 mil, even after the terrible season he had due to injuries, yet he still cried b/c the team wanted him to show up for camp.



I never criticized his lack of production. Like I said, if he was loyal to Miami he should've stayed there. If not, he should've sucked it up, (get paid 8 mil, poor guy), and make it to training camp (which he was being paid for!)



If he was such a warrior, he should've handled Parcells ignoring him. And if was such a "character" guy, maybe he should've done what people always criticize players for not doing, which is to fulfill his contract.

People here complaint SO much about the FO, yet in my eyes, here's a player that the front office paid a lot of for, had the misfortune of having a plagued-riden year, and he didn't work out because [U]he wasn't happy[/U]. Please, complain about getting a bust like Archuleta or a nut-case like Brandon Lloyd. I wanted Jason Taylor here this year, because I thought he had it in him to have a rebound this year when healthy. Well turns out he wasn't happy and he was cut. So screw him.

Oh yeah, and the next person that mentions the overused line "the Redskins got schooled by Parcells", don't forget to add that Parcells also schooled Jason Taylor.[/quote]


Well it was obvious that he didn't want to be here and they weren't using him correctly. So he should have stayed for another year? He did us a favor for leaving. You can't criticize him for coming here and then leaving when the situation was obviously a bad one. I think that both sides realized this. Washington added this crap about a workout bonus to make themselves look better. If anyone truly believes that was the reason he left then I have a great deal on some "partial view" seats for you...

The FO tried to put a round peg in a square hole. They also paid 8 million to do it. Shame on them for not researching further and for giving up so much for a guy who probably was going to be dropped.

I cannot blame anyone for trying any work environment for 1 year for 8 million. It isn't Taylor's fault the FO pissed away two more draft picks to sign him.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 09:15 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;557747]Neither do I, that's why I said don't bother.

Not sure what TK means, just spell it out. No need to be obtuse.[/quote]

Well I was thinking you were TK on another board. If not, my upmost apologies for that and for being obtuse. But if you are we both know obtuse is the last thing I've been towards you. But arrogant is still not an obtuse word.

"Neither do I, that's why I said don't bother".

You're the one making the big deal out of it with your Don't bother statement. If he wants to talk about it let him decide whether to bother or not. Especially since I was talking to him. Not you. Get it.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 09:23 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;557750]TK
Toon Killer
Top Kat
Tool Kid
Time Kadet
Thrifty knickle

Man, I can't even think of anything to fit with it...[/quote]

Thrifty knickle?

MTK 05-15-2009 09:24 AM

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I'm not TK, no idea who that is. This is my only site.

I'm not making a big deal outta anything. Carry on.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 09:26 AM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;557750]TK
Toon Killer
Top Kat
Tool Kid
Time Kadet
Thrifty knickle

Tool Kid is not bad.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 09:28 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;557759]I'm not TK, no idea who that is. This is my only site.

I'm not making a big deal outta anything. Carry on.[/quote]

So how do you know I don't like JC so much you had to respond? It sounded personal. Usually people don't say things like you did unless they don't like the messenger. Not the message.

Ruhskins 05-15-2009 09:35 AM

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[quote=Sonny9TD;557761]So [B]how do you know I don't like JC[/B] so much you had to respond?[/quote]

Well this pretty much says it...

[quote=Sonny9TD;557322]Well that's interesting. [B]We still need a QB[/B] but it's still interesting. Brian O. is the real deal I think.[/quote]

Look in regards to the QB issue, this has been discussed to death, and a great majority of those discussions typically include some person who makes a mindless anti-Campbell rant with no type of explanation. Personally I think it is annoying and people should really drop it until the season begins.

As far as Matty, well this is his website, so I'm sure he has seen these tired arguments a 1000 times more than I have.

Ruhskins 05-15-2009 09:37 AM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;557754]Well it was obvious that he didn't want to be here and they weren't using him correctly. So he should have stayed for another year? He did us a favor for leaving. You can't criticize him for coming here and then leaving when the situation was obviously a bad one. I think that both sides realized this. Washington added this crap about a workout bonus to make themselves look better. If anyone truly believes that was the reason he left then I have a great deal on some "partial view" seats for you...

The FO tried to put a round peg in a square hole. They also paid 8 million to do it. Shame on them for not researching further and for giving up so much for a guy who probably was going to be dropped.

I cannot blame anyone for trying any work environment for 1 year for 8 million. It isn't Taylor's fault the FO pissed away two more draft picks to sign him.[/quote]

Fine fine, f the FO, shame on them for pissing away 2 draft picks on a player who in the end wasn't "happy" and gave up 8 mil to go back to Miami. Very noble, blah blah blah.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 09:40 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;557766]Well this pretty much says it...



Look in regards to the QB issue, this has been discussed to death, and a great majority of those discussions typically include some person who makes a mindless anti-Campbell rant with no type of explanation. Personally I think it is annoying and people should really drop it until the season begins.

As far as Matty, well this is his website, so I'm sure he has seen these tired arguments a 1000 times more than I have.[/quote]

Look. He said I was anti JC all the way. How does my comment deserve that response? He knows me apparently and was trying to dig on me for just stating my opinion.. Read the entire quote before trying to defend the administrator for brownie points. Plus I wasn't arguing anything about JC. Go argue with someone else.

SBXVII 05-15-2009 09:43 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;557692]My problem with Taylor is that since the beginning (as it appears now) he didn't want to come here. If he was so "loyal" to the Dolphins, he should've sucked it up and stay with the Dolphins. The Redskins didn't want to re-structure his salary and were willing to pay him 8 mil, even after the terrible season he had due to injuries, yet he still cried b/c the team wanted him to show up for camp.



I never criticized his lack of production. Like I said, if he was loyal to Miami he should've stayed there. If not, he should've sucked it up, (get paid 8 mil, poor guy), and make it to training camp (which he was being paid for!)



If he was such a warrior, he should've handled Parcells ignoring him. And if was such a "character" guy, maybe he should've done what people always criticize players for not doing, which is to fulfill his contract.

People here complaint SO much about the FO, yet in my eyes, here's a player that the front office paid a lot of for, had the misfortune of having a plagued-riden year, and he didn't work out because [U]he wasn't happy[/U]. Please, complain about getting a bust like Archuleta or a nut-case like Brandon Lloyd. I wanted Jason Taylor here this year, because I thought he had it in him to have a rebound this year when healthy. Well turns out he wasn't happy and he was cut. So screw him.

[B]Oh yeah, and the next person that mentions the overused line "the Redskins got schooled by Parcells", don't forget to add that Parcells also schooled Jason Taylor.[/quote][/B]

I figure you were not refering to me in the first part since I was actually defending the FO for actually attempting to fill a spot with talent that was left vacant by injuries. I presume the high lighted part did and probably not soley to me, but you can't deny it and I could use a different term if that one is irritating to you. See the Tuna did not see the need to pay someone 8.5 mill when he didn't produce the yr before and refused to partake in camp. So he trades them away. Then when JT saw the grass was not greener in DC he decides he wants out for warmer climate. Which baffles me that he would be looking into N.E. Why would JT make a comment that he wanted to go back to FL to warmer climate (which I thought maybe he means he will try to get on with Tampa or Jacksonville) then entertain offers from N.E.?

In the end the Tuna got rid of the high cost, got 1 or 2 picks out of the deal, and in the end got the same player for less money and he fits their scheme. To me that's being schooled. A lesson the front office could learn from.

Ruhskins 05-15-2009 09:57 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;557772][/B]

I figure you were not refering to me in the first part since I was actually defending the FO for actually attempting to fill a spot with talent that was left vacant by injuries. I presume the high lighted part did and probably not soley to me, but you can't deny it and I could use a different term if that one is irritating to you. See the Tuna did not see the need to pay someone 8.5 mill when he didn't produce the yr before and refused to partake in camp. So he trades them away. Then when JT saw the grass was not greener in DC he decides he wants out for warmer climate. Which baffles me that he would be looking into N.E. Why would JT make a comment that he wanted to go back to FL to warmer climate (which I thought maybe he means he will try to get on with Tampa or Jacksonville) then entertain offers from N.E.?

In the end the Tuna got rid of the high cost, got 1 or 2 picks out of the deal, and in the end got the same player for less money and he fits their scheme. To me that's being schooled. A lesson the front office could learn from.[/quote]

Actually, a lot of people have been saying that we got schooled by Parcells, and well I feel that Jason Taylor got schooled by Parcells as well. He complained about the treatment he got from Parcells, got shipped to Washington where he had an injury-ridden season and was not happy. And now he returns with his tail between his legs for less money. So in the end, Parcells showed him up.

SmootSmack 05-15-2009 10:02 AM

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[quote=Sonny9TD;557769]Look. He said I was anti JC all the way. How does my comment deserve that response? He knows me apparently and was trying to dig on me for just stating my opinion.. Read the entire quote before trying to defend the administrator. Plus I wasn't arguing anything about JC. Go argue with someone else.[/quote]

Maybe he said it because of

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Ruhskins 05-15-2009 10:03 AM

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 
[quote=Sonny9TD;557769]Look. He said I was anti JC all the way. How does my comment deserve that response? He knows me apparently and was trying to dig on me for just stating my opinion.. [B]Read the entire quote before trying to defend the administrator.[/B] Plus I wasn't arguing anything about JC. Go argue with someone else.[/quote]

Oh come on, don't take out the brownie points part, I was going to respond by saying that with 5 more brownie points, Matty was going to give me free VIP status.

Now, say something about Smootsmack, so I can defend him too (more brownie points!)

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 10:04 AM

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 
[quote=Ruhskins;557796]Oh come on, don't take out the brownie points part, I was going to respond by saying that with 5 more brownie points, Matty was going to give me free VIP status.[/quote]


Well I was going to try and be somewhat civil. But OK.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 10:06 AM

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 
[quote=SmootSmack;557795]Maybe he said it because of

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OK then. I guess he did a check like you did before his response. Yea right. That is amazing. Plus I was just stating my opinion. He was still arrogant even if he did do a check like you did which I know he didn't. Let's use some common sense here. You didn't know before you looked it up after the fact and neither did he. Nobody else knows what I think about JC until today. Except him of course. Sure did. But if he isn't who I think he is then I guess I was wrong about that. Or maybe not.

dmek25 05-15-2009 10:23 AM

Re: Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins
 
[quote=Mattyk72;557759]I'm not TK, no idea who that is. This is my only site.

I'm not making a big deal outta anything. Carry on.[/quote]
hahaha. do you get paid to baby sit?


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