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I guess I should be lowering my expectations like some of the rest of you. I should just totally believe MV has lost everything and wonder why he's trying to make a comeback. or simply atleast believe he has lost atleast half of his ability and think his only way of coming back is for him to be moved to WR. Where all the teams who are interested must want to put him.

The man never played WR but that's the only place he will be able to come back to in the NFL. right. gotcha. I just hope he gets the routes right. Be honest with yourselves. If you guys said RB I would think it's a possibility. Give him the ball and let him run to day light. but basically that's similar to the Wild Cat. I wouldn't call Portis or ARE the best QB's in the world either and they were not drafted to be in that position but they have made decent passes in the past. You can't tell me MV could not make those types of plays? I guess I'm crazy. No different then you guys are thinking teams are looking to move him to WR. A position he never played. Your right about one thing. He would be a work in progress if moved to that position.

He would be an upgrade for Jacksonville at QB. Maybe even Houston. San Fran's questionable. Minn easily unless they pick up Favre.

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[quote=SBXVII;569924]He would be an upgrade for Jacksonville at QB. Maybe even Houston. San Fran's questionable. Minn easily unless they pick up Favre.[/quote]Jax - No way. Garrard has a hefty contract and he's better than Vick. 60, 64, 62% completion rate last three years. QB rating: 80.5, 102.2, 81.7
Houston - No way, Schaub was a better passing QB than Vick when he was in ATL. The only thing that forced Schaub out was Vick's contract.
SF - I don't know who'll be the starter there, but Shaun Hill's numbers from 2008 aren't terrible.
Minn - Right now, I'd definitely take T. Jackson over Vick. 59% comp %, 9TDs vs. 2INTs, 95.4 QB rating in 2008.

Right now Vick is a niche player in the Wildcat or a "change of pace" running QB at best. I agree with you about him moving to WR, I don't think he has the hands or route running skills to even make most rosters at WR.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;569856]I just like saying Romo never won a playoff game. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!![/quote]

Did someone say that Romo has never won a playoff game? :)

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;569925]Jax - No way. Garrard has a hefty contract and he's better than Vick. 60, 64, 62% completion rate last three years. QB rating: 80.5, 102.2, 81.7
Houston - No way, Schaub was a better passing QB than Vick when he was in ATL. The only thing that forced Schaub out was Vick's contract.
SF - I don't know who'll be the starter there, but Shaun Hill's numbers from 2008 aren't terrible.
Minn - Right now, I'd definitely take T. Jackson over Vick. 59% comp %, 9TDs vs. 2INTs, 95.4 QB rating in 2008.

Right now Vick is a niche player in the Wildcat or a "change of pace" running QB at best. I agree with you about him moving to WR, I don't think he has the hands or route running skills to even make most rosters at WR.[/quote]

I agree there's no way he's an upgrade in Jax or Houston. Not even close.

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[quote=SBXVII;569924]I guess I should be lowering my expectations like some of the rest of you. I should just totally believe MV has lost everything and wonder why he's trying to make a comeback.[/quote]

It's going to take him a while to get back up to speed. 2 years away from the game for a QB that was still in the process of developing his game when he left is a pretty big deal.

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Vick's value to the Jags wouldn't be so much as a starter as their backup QB situation is piss poor at best, and the franchise and the city needs a big boost in ticket sales in a huge way

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[quote=skinsfan69;569759][B]I don't think anyone is going to pick him up[/B]. I just don't see it. This time of year rosters are set. Outside of Oakland I don't see anyone who wants to put up with the drama. [B] He's going to have to go to the new league and try and knock off the rust, then try something next year.[/B][/quote]

For some reason I have a feeling you will be proven very wrong in believing that. Vick will be signed right away, in the NFL. Some team will take a chance, there is more than one dallas out there. There could even be a bidding war over his services.

Long as the SKINS don't have anything to do with this fool, could care less. But there will be a taker.

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Im not with it at all. But I could see Dan pullin the trigger on it just because he loves being mentioned in the media. He loves exposure. Wow are we really discussing this as an option?

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[quote=SeanTaGodsSafety;570143]Im not with it at all. But I could see Dan pullin the trigger on it just because he loves being mentioned in the media. He loves exposure. Wow are we really discussing this as an option?[/quote]

I believe JC is the better QB in that situation. He knows the offense, and he's a pocket passer who can scramble. MV is a roll out type of QB. He was not all that great at sitting in the pocket and some have speculated it's because of his height and seeing over the lineman.

MV at this point for most teams would only be a trick play QB. Especially for the Skins. I know DS gets what he wants but I still think Zorn has some say. Unless Zorn is looking for trick plays or looking into the Wild Cat I don't see MV signing with the Skins.

I agree MV has lost a step due to not training on the field or with WR's. I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just saying I think he would be up to speed faster then most of you think even if he's only half as good as he was.

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[quote=wilsowilso;569644]Please go to Dallas.[/quote]

This is both what I want...and what will likely happen.

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[quote=Buster;570351]This is both what I want...and what will likely happen.[/quote]

Dallas has said no, no, and no

I'm thinking Cincy.

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Sirius just announced, Vick is conditionally reinstated, can practice, and can be eligible to play in regular season games, beginning week 6.

No link yet.

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/07/27/vick.reinstated.ap/index.html?eref=BrkNews]Michael Vick has been conditionally reinstated by NFL - NFL - SI.com[/url]

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So he is essentially getting a 5 game suspension? I'm okay with that.

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edited: nevermind...

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Isn't this how it always goes?

"[I][U]Insert name here[/U][/I]" is available and therefore make sense for the Redskins

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;570361][B]and of course Sirius is saying Washington would make sense[/B]. Geez why people why?[/quote]

Because it is Washington. And stranger things have happened. And the fact of the matter is we will in my best guess be getting a new QB next year anyway, maybe sooner....they have tried pretty damn hard to dump JC.

Do I hope its Vick....NO!

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Vick's done. Like skinsfan said, the only way a team will pick him up is after playing in another league for at least a year (and then he'd be 30-31). Too much risk -- money and PR -- for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. Teams aren't going to want to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars for a potential PR nightmare on a guy who hasn't played recently, and is approaching 30. Even if they did, what would happen? He'd play next year, when he's 30-31 after learning a new offense? No way.

I'll bet he's still got the arm -- 29 isn't that old. However, I'd be worried about his legs. Plus, he was never very accurate. Don't see much benefit for anyone picking him up.

I guess the only way I wouldn't be totally surprised is if a team picked him up for ticket sales, as SS suggested.

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He belongs with the Raiders and that circus of A$$ clowns.

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Vick is still too talented and there is never enough QBs to go around, some team will be interested. He'll get another shot with a NFL team this year I believe.

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Perhaps Vick can be "The Last Boyscout" for Oakland?

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;570364]Vick's done. Like skinsfan said, the only way a team will pick him up is after playing in another league for at least a year (and then he'd be 30-31). Too much risk -- money and PR -- for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. Teams aren't going to want to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars for a potential PR nightmare on a guy who hasn't played recently, and is approaching 30. Even if they did, what would happen? He'd play next year, when he's 30-31 after learning a new offense? No way.

I'll bet he's still got the arm -- 29 isn't that old. However, I'd be worried about his legs. Plus, he was never very accurate. Don't see much benefit for anyone picking him up.

I guess the only way I wouldn't be totally surprised is if a team picked him up for ticket sales, as SS suggested.[/quote]

The NFL is a buisness, and selling jerseys and tickets keeps each team going....I guarantee someone will pick him up!!!!!!Why not the skins,Danny loves money

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;570369]The NFL is a buisness, and [B]selling jerseys[/B] and tickets keeps each team going....I guarantee someone will pick him up!!!!!!Why not the skins,Danny loves money[/quote]

I guess we can add this line to the Overused Phrase Hall of Fame, along with "Vet Minimum" and "Build through the Draft".

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[quote=Mattyk72;570362]Isn't this how it always goes?

"[I][U]Insert name here[/U][/I]" is available and therefore make sense for the Redskins[/quote]
"[I][U]Insert name here[/U][/I]" is available and therefore make sense for the Redskins....at Vet minimum. And Snyder/Cerrato are dumb-asses.

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Buffalo Bills.

TO was putting up a big stink to Goodell about Vick being reinstated. TO wants him to come to Buffalo so he can have another big name person to play with him...misery loves company.

Still doesn't matter because Vick's performances won't make a difference on the field for any team this year. What team would QB this guy???

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Top 5 destinations:
1. Buffalo
2. Oakland
3. Tampa Bay
4. Cleveland (Dawg Pound-HA!)
5. Washington-sorry, but it makes some football sense.

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If he were playing any other position other than QB then I think he'd be fine. But with all the mental preperation that an NFL QB has to do, there is no way a team is going to sign and invest in Vick this year. Perhaps he'll get signed and asked to play another position but I just don't see QB. I heard that the UFL would offer him a million plus. He needs to go there where he can earn some $ and knock some rust off.

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[quote=skinsfan69;570375]If he were playing any other position other than QB then I think he'd be fine. But with all the mental preperation that an NFL QB has to do, there is no way a team is going to sign and invest in Vick this year. Perhaps he'll get signed and asked to play another position but I just don't see QB. I heard that the UFL would offer him a million plus. He needs to go there where he can earn some $ and knock some rust off.[/quote]

No team is going to sign him to play QB. He's got Wildcat/Slash written all over him.

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i think denver would make for the best fit for vick.

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Here's a good article on where Vick may end up...

[url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcsouth/0-12-168/Vick-might-not-have-a-landing-spot.html]Vick might not have a landing spot - NFC South - ESPN[/url]

I particularly like this:

[quote][B]Not even a chance:[/B] Packers, Vikings, Steelers, Ravens, Browns, Chiefs, Chargers, Titans, Colts, Texans, Dolphins, Jets, Seahawks, Rams, 49ers, Cardinals, [B]Redskins[/B], Eagles, Giants, Panthers, Saints, Buccaneers and Falcons.[/quote]

They do mention the Pats as a possible place, and I wouldn't be surprise since Darth Hoody has always been trying to stick it to the league (why this, I have no idea). I think it is a stretch having Vick here, I think you'd be more likely to see Bret Favre in here than Vick.

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[quote=Paintrain;570376][B]No team is going to sign him to play QB[/B]. He's got Wildcat/Slash written all over him.[/quote]
wondering why you think this? i would start him over anyone on the Lions roster right now. same for Denver. he is better then Jackson/ Rosenfeld(sp?) of the Vikings. what about Tampa? better then those bunch of stiffs

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[quote=Ruhskins;570378]Here's a good article on where Vick may end up...

[URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcsouth/0-12-168/Vick-might-not-have-a-landing-spot.html"]Vick might not have a landing spot - NFC South - ESPN[/URL]

I particularly like this:



They do mention the Pats as a possible place, and I wouldn't be surprise since Darth Hoody has always been trying to stick it to the league (why this, I have no idea). I think it is a stretch having Vick here, I think you'd be more likely to see Bret Favre in here than Vick.[/quote]

Thank god someone out there in the media has some common sense.

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[quote=Paintrain;570374]Top 5 destinations:
1. Buffalo
2. Oakland
3. Tampa Bay
4. Cleveland (Dawg Pound-HA!)
[B]5. Washington-sorry, but it makes some football sense.[/quote[/B]]

Well he's played in this offense and our QB is in his last year of his contract. I really don't care if he came here. He did his time.

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[quote=dmek25;570379]wondering why you think this? i would start him over anyone on the Lions roster right now. same for Denver. he is better then Jackson/ Rosenfeld(sp?) of the Vikings. what about Tampa? better then those bunch of stiffs[/quote]

he's not better than anyone right now cause he's been sitting in a jail cell for two years. he's going to need a few months and when you get into the regular season the back up QB's don't get a lot of practice reps. he's going to need a full off season of mincamps, ota's and throwing to NFL WR's.

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[quote=skinsfan69;570392][quote=Paintrain;570374]Top 5 destinations:
1. Buffalo
2. Oakland
3. Tampa Bay
4. Cleveland (Dawg Pound-HA!)
[B]5. Washington-sorry, but it makes some football sense.[/quote[/B]]

[B]Well he's played in this offense[/B] and our QB is in his last year of his contract. I really don't care if he came here. He did his time.[/quote]

Yeah he played in the WCO but he didnt do anything worth mentioning. he made Roddy White look like a bust. thats all we need, a qb who hinders the development of our young wrs.Sorry man but we DO NOT need MV.

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Wherever he goes, if he makes a team, he better pick up the playbook fast or else he will embarass himself big time.

[quote]Dallas has said no, no, and no

I'm thinking Cincy.[/quote]Carson Palmer is the franchise qb there and he has the numbers to back up staying that way.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;570401]Wherever he goes, if he makes a team, he better pick up the playbook fast or else he will embarass himself big time.

Carson Palmer is the franchise qb there and he has the numbers to back up staying that way.[/quote]

I agree, but this would be the wild cat type option for Vick.

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My top 5 possible landing spots

Jaguars
Patriots
Bucs
Raiders
Rams

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The Wildcat is strong in this one.

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1) Texans
2) Cowboys
3) Patriots
4) Steelers
5) Saints