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[quote=That Guy;580325]every year has its locks. i knew orakpo was a top 5 player (talent wise) in feb... just like i knew calvin johnson or adrian peterson or patrick willis or sean taylor were going to be locks... sometimes guys are just that good.

looking back i don't think we'll have much to regret this year. if we took him with the #4 pick, we'd have still been good value wise from what i've seen so far. let's hope he keeps it up (and playing next to AH with AC/CG etc is just going to make him look even better).[/quote]Add Raji and Curry as well to the locks.

As strong as this tackle class was, I wouldn't throw my support behind any one guy as a can't miss prospect (perhaps Oher, especially as a RT). I think you're bound to get one bust of the group, though I'm not confident which one it will be.

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Maybin ahead of Orakpo is a crime against humanity, but it does show you that there are worse organizations than the Redskins.

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[quote=Lotus;580315]According to a report today, it is Crabtree, not his agent, who is making irrational demands.
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/49ers-holdout-Crabtree-s-agent-blaming-player-fo?urn=nfl,185191]49ers holdout Crabtree's agent blaming player for cash demands - Sports Rumors - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

Everyone should know there worth, but that's the problem with some of these athletes/celebrities they have to many YOUR THE MAN people that hang with them.

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Just watching the replay of the Skins-Steelers and man, Orakpo really is a beast rushing the passer. I saw him light into Heath Miller and shoved him back a good 2-3 steps nearly into the QB. A back or TE simply cannot block him.

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[quote=GTripp0012;580333]Maybin ahead of Orakpo is a crime against humanity, but it does show you that there are worse organizations than the Redskins.[/quote]

Yes sir. I'm happy but puzzled about the choice of Maybin rather than Orakpo as well as the Maybin contract troubles that followed. We got lucky.

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[quote=Lotus;580341]Yes sir. I'm happy but puzzled about the choice of Maybin rather than Orakpo as well as the Maybin contract troubles that followed. We got lucky.[/quote]

No we got a guy that always wanted to be a Redskin. HTTR.

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^ Yes but I think he meant that we are very lucky for Orakpo to fall down to us, especially right after Bills picked Maybin (who plays same position as Orakpo)..

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[quote=GridIron26;580355]^ Yes but I think he meant that we are very lucky for Orakpo to fall down to us, especially right after Bills picked Maybin (who plays same position as Orakpo)..[/quote]

Oh we are lucky or is it finally the FOOTBALL GOD'S smileing down on us. I was more taking about the quick contract i beleive he only missed one day.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;580357]Oh we are lucky or is it finally the FOOTBALL GOD'S smileing down on us. [B]I was more taking about the quick contract i beleive he only missed one day.[/B][/quote]

Oh yes, u re right..

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[quote=GTripp0012;580332]Add Raji and Curry as well to the locks.

As strong as this tackle class was, I wouldn't throw my support behind any one guy as a can't miss prospect (perhaps Oher, especially as a RT). I think you're bound to get one bust of the group, though I'm not confident which one it will be.[/quote]

yeah, almost any DT taken in the top 15 is a lock for a good career (not always, but it's generally even safer than top 10 LTs, which are definitely on the safe side as far as bust %). and curry's a beast, but between him and orakpo, right now i'm happy with what we've got.

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This will be an interesting case study: 3rd year this year for both Landry and Amobi Okoye. Both guys seem primed for a breakout year, and this is the year we could look back and decide whether we made the right call there.

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So, did the Patriots gameplan for Orakpo? He was pretty quiet last night.

Maybe someone can correct me on this, but I hadn't noticed him lined up on the left side as much as he was last night. Usually he's been on the right side.

I was hoping to see way more pressure on Brady. NE did a great job of protecting him.

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[quote=Beemnseven;581680]So, did the Patriots gameplan for Orakpo? He was pretty quiet last night.

Maybe someone can correct me on this, but I hadn't noticed him lined up on the left side as much as he was last night. Usually he's been on the right side.

I was hoping to see way more pressure on Brady. NE did a great job of protecting him.[/quote]

Generally speaking Tom Brady is just hard to sack. It's the protection on some plays and his quick release on others. It's just tough getting pressure on the dude. I wouldn't take last night's game as anything other than the Pats are probably one of the best when it comes to protecting the QB.

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[quote=12thMan;581793]Generally speaking Tom Brady is just hard to sack. It's the protection on some plays and his quick release on others. It's just tough getting pressure on the dude. I wouldn't take last night's game as anything other than the Pats are probably one of the best when it comes to protecting the QB.[/quote]

Exactly plus we are not always going to knock OF out some we will have to wear down, as you saw last nite.

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Defensive end was always weak after Dexter left. Smith really didn't look that good and he was somebody else's reject. Orakpo and Jarmon were Redskins selections from the draft. We got Jarmom really cheap in the supplemental draft.

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I think both will be solid,and don't forget about wilson.these three should be around for while.home grown is always better.

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[quote=Beemnseven;581680]So, did the Patriots gameplan for Orakpo? He was pretty quiet last night.

Maybe someone can correct me on this, but I hadn't noticed him lined up on the left side as much as he was last night. Usually he's been on the right side.

I was hoping to see way more pressure on Brady. NE did a great job of protecting him.[/quote]

The Pats have a top tier offense and a QB that doesn't take sacks. I was hoping for more pressure, but I didn't really expect a jail break. With Moss on the field, you better not blitz your safety. Still, in one half of work, Haynesworth was able to get in there and knock Brady out of the game. I'll take that as a small victory! :)

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Hey, how did Orakpo do last preseason game? Couldn't watch it & didn't hear much about him -- I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Guess he had 5 tackles..

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Cincy did a better job of bringing pressure on the Pats then we did.

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I like the fact that the Redskins drafted Rak and we didn't sign somebody else's throwaways. Same with Jarmon. If we don't have a winning season (some of the pundits are predicting 6-10), it won't be because of Orakpo and Jarmon.

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If you don't want to be excited, or get that "h*** yeah" feeling in your gut then DON'T read this article:
[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/11/redskins-orakpo-no-regular-rookie/]Redskins' Orakpo no regular rookie - Washington Times[/url]

Warning: you may come away feeling like you want to see Orakpo kick a little ...

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Man, I almost cried. Is it Sunday yet?

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"Humble kid," defensive end Phillip Daniels said. "He listens and he's coachable - he's always asking questions. He looks the part and plays the part. He's going to do a lot for us this year. [B]He can be a dominating player[/B]."

Man. Bring on Sunday!!

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RAK! Kid is going to be a god Defender for us for a long time to come.

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"The Giants might be surprised by what they see from him." Greg Blache.
I love it! Bring it on!

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;586897]RAK! Kid is going to be a god Defender for us for a long time to come.[/quote]

Is a God defender better than just a good defender?...I can see more on field miracles perhaps.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;586931]Is a God defender better than just a good defender?...I can see more on field miracles perhaps.[/quote]

Book of Zorn, Chapter 2, Verse 13.
And yea, a player will come who will part offensive lines, stop footballs mid-flight, turn solid QB's into water, and raise a moribund franchise from the dead.

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^^ Lol... yes a god defender is better than a good one... typos inject good conversation... and some good posts like Joe's response

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and another good one:
[URL=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Orakpo_Has_a_Need_For_Speed_50050.jsp]Orakpo_Has_a_Need_For_Speed[/URL]

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2 days 1 hour and 30 mins til kickoff!

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We need a "playmaker." Orakpo could be that guy.

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[quote=redsk1;586993]We need a "playmaker." Orakpo could be that guy.[/quote]

if blache uses him right and exploits orakpos strengths and hides his weaknesses..kinda like what lebeau does with james harrison of the steelers or polamalu..then ya orakpo can be that playmaker guy

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;586978]and another good one:
[URL=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Orakpo_Has_a_Need_For_Speed_50050.jsp]Orakpo_Has_a_Need_For_Speed[/URL][/quote]

In one on ones he was at the QB before the coach finished blowing his whistle. Damn. You gotta love it!!!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;586871]If you don't want to be excited, or get that "h*** yeah" feeling in your gut then DON'T read this article:
[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/11/redskins-orakpo-no-regular-rookie/]Redskins' Orakpo no regular rookie - Washington Times[/url]

Warning: you may come away feeling like you want to see Orakpo kick a little ...[/quote]

Cool story within the story. Jeez it's impossible to not get stoked about the season reading stuff like that.

...I really, really hope that Blache has kept the schemes very vanilla for preseason, in fact i hope he's been holding everything back to a degree, and come sunday we see a firestorm against the G-men. Our defense has not been terribly impressive in preseason and it's got me a bit worried...i want to see us flip the switch on the opposing line!

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In yesterday's Redskins-Giants game, I didn't hear Orakpo's name called but just a couple of times. Did I miss something, or rather, didn the sports announcers miss something?

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[quote=JLee9718;588920]In yesterday's Redskins-Giants game, I didn't hear Orakpo's name called but just a couple of times. Did I miss something, or rather, didn the sports announcers miss something?[/quote]

I didnt notice him at all, except 1 play early in the game when he kinda "rushed" Manning.

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Not really. Rak wasn't that effective. He didn't make any real plas other than a QB presssure. Maybe he is better suited playing end than SLB.

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Orakpo Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 260 lb (118 kg) a future OLB not DE ... Rumor has been he can not stop the RUN!!! Maybe he will be better in a 3-4 later in his carrear....

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[quote=Njall;589064]Orakpo Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) Weight: 260 lb (118 kg) a future OLB not DE ... Rumor has been he can not stop the RUN!!! Maybe he will be better in a 3-4 later in his carrear....[/quote]Someone who can't stop the run is better off as a 4-3 DE than a 4-3 OLB. 4-3 OLBs are chiefly responsible for the run. 4-3 DE's are far enough away from the play that you can compensate with a physical corner or safety.

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Is it too early to say bust?

I kid, I kid