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Its a start, but as others said I could care less.Fire Vinny and start drafting more from the trenches. That would show that the FO realizes they were wrong and they are now changing due to that.

This "apology" isn't that. I haven't changed my opinion and I wont till I see real change.

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I Can't beleive that people think that this guy doesnt want to win. nothings more profitable than a winning franchise.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;620234]How do you know Snyder wants to win? Just because he pays out money to big FA names? Guy is smart, he has maximized his profit with a losing product year in year out in a NFL market that is rather small anymore. He could maximze jersey, sweatshirt, and cap sales, etc, with a SB run, but that is it. With a 5 year waiting period for season tickets they guy is already at maximum capacity with regards to filling the stadium. Have the Skins had a game blacked out yet due to poor attendance like the Lions always do? Snyder knows his "market" rather well. Keep em hooked with new coaches, schemes, hot FA signings and they will come and buy crap. Thing is you are in DC, the place where all the tax loot comes in to feed ungodly large bureacracies along with lobbyists, etc. My point is Detroiters and folks in SE Michigan and the rest of the rust belt do not have the time or money to waste on overpriced circuses in the form of crappy football. Snyder chose his market well. It is small, yet loaded with dough. Couple that with the fact that we are a bread and circuses society anymore and you have a no lose situation for Snyder unless Skins fans show some balls and quit caring.[/quote]

For your sake do not go into business because its clear you do not undstand how to maximize a profit.

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[quote=Rodskin;620335]I Can't beleive that people think that this guy doesnt want to win. nothings more profitable than a winning franchise.[/quote]

he wants to win just has no idea how to do it and refuses to give up control

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[quote=mlmdub130;620342]he wants to win just has no idea how to do it and refuses to give up control[/quote]

He gave up the bulk of control, no owner will give up all control, you just don't like who he gave it up to (I don't blame you).

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[quote=SBXVII;620333]If he was smart he would follow the Presidents Rule of Thumb.....as I do...

[I][B]1) Nixon:[/B] "I'm not a Cooke."[/I]

[I][B]2) Clinton:[/B] Flat out deny, "I did not hire Vinny Cerrato."[/I]

When the public starts clammering...

[I][B]3) Bush SR:[/B] "Read my lips, I did not hire Vinny Cerrato."[/I]

When evidence is mounting that you are lying....

[I][B]4) Reagan:[/B] "I don't recall hiring Vinny Cerrato."[/I]

When it's blatently obvious...

[I][B]5) Clinton:[/B] "Mistakes were made in hiring Cerrato."[/I]

[I][B]6) Bush JR:[/B] "I'm going to fixidate this here clusterphobia."[/I]

I hope this helps all of you....I know I apply these tried and true Presidental statements to everything if it's a disaster. I hope it helps you as well.....;)

Edit: I'm sorry I forgot the last one, offer food cause everyone likes food..

[I][B]7) Carter:[/B] "Would you like a peanut?"[/I][/quote]

Excellent

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[quote=Rodskin;620335]I Can't beleive that people think that this guy doesnt want to win. nothings more profitable than a winning franchise.[/quote]

I think he does want to win, but got to disagree with your last part of the statement. Snyder has kept the Redskins at the top of all NFL franchises since he's been there in terms of value, despite a subpar record over the last ten years. Why aren't the Giants or Eagles more valuable then?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;620605]I think he does want to win, but got to disagree with your last part of the statement. Snyder has kept the Redskins at the top of all NFL franchises since he's been there in terms of value, despite a subpar record over the last ten years. Why aren't the [B]Giants[/B] or Eagles more valuable then?[/quote]

The Giants are not that valuable because New York is a baseball town. The Iggles....well I dunno. And winning is profitable, since the Pats have been up there in the profit top 5 during their winning steak (even though Boston is a baseball town first and basketball town second).

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[quote=Rodskin;620335]I Can't beleive that people think that this guy doesnt want to win. nothings more profitable than a winning franchise.[/quote]

I would tend to agree with that but conversely I guess you could say that losing is not profitable.

What Snyder has done with offseason free agent frenzys of players AND coaches is make a losing franchise profitable. New season tickets are sold and locked up during these spring and summer months when the Skins are making big splashes...great from a marketing perspective.

Within the last 2-3 months the Redskins were listed as the highest revenued NFL team pulling in $345 million dollars on the year.


Now ask yourself...Does Dan Snyder want to win?

...in the illustrious words of Dan Snyder himself: "If it ain't broke don't fix it"

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/snyder-and-gibbs-press-confere.html"]Redskins Insider - Snyder and Gibbs Press Conference[/URL]

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[quote=Ruhskins;620610]The Giants are not that valuable because New York is a baseball town. The Iggles....well I dunno. And winning is profitable, since the Pats have been up there in the profit top 5 during their winning steak (even though Boston is a baseball town first and basketball town second).[/quote]




Nope, the Giants Igglets and other don't own their own stadium like the SKins(Thanks to JKC)...the Giants will solve that next year,also the Giants don't over sell the team like Snyder does.

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[quote=Giantone;620622]Nope, the Giants Igglets and other don't own their own stadium like the SKins(Thanks to JKC)...the Giants will solve that next year,also the Giants don't over sell the team like Snyder does.[/quote]

What do you mean by overselling? Also, wouldn't you say that having to share NY with many professional sports team (that people actually follow) affect the Giants' ability to make as much profit as other teams?

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Riggins just did some more Snyder bashing. This time it's personal. Riggo is going to be on some sports show w/JB on Showtime and he just kills Snyder. Maybe someone can pull up the link. The article is on CBS Sports.

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We already have a thread going on it.

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[quote=mlmdub130;620192]don't you mean that's what zorn is for[/quote]
Zorn's not taking that role

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[quote=mlmdub130;620201]i would kill some one to see marko mitchell on the feild although he would be miss used, like the eagles game when we threw a fade to randle el, i really hope we keep and use marko he has the potential to be a game breaker just gotta get him on the field[/quote]
Man when I saw that I literally facepalm'd as soon as the pass was thrown

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^^ Let's see, we have a 6-4 WR who caught everything tossed his way in preseason and who got good reviews from the CB's in practice, we could try throwing a fade to him OR we could throw the fade to the 5'10 guy who can only get separation between the 20's.

Let's throw it to the little guy.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;620750]^^ Let's see, we have a 6-4 WR who caught everything tossed his way in preseason and who got good reviews from the CB's in practice, we could try throwing a fade to him OR we could throw the fade to the 5'10 guy who can only get separation between the 20's.

Let's throw it to the little guy.[/quote]

Stop writing your FO resume!

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Snyder actually owns the team. I don't get why he'd apologize. He probably wants you guys to buy more of his tickets, let's boycott this joker.

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[quote=Ruhskins;620666]What do you mean by overselling? Also, wouldn't you say that having to share NY with many professional sports team (that people actually follow) affect the Giants' ability to make as much profit as other teams?[/quote]

As for the over selling(marketing)...someone else said it better then I can...."Snyder sells the Skins as If they were the New Kids on the Block.."
As for the Giants "sharing" the NY area ....my answer would be no, there is enough of a populous in the tri state area to go around and they like the Skins have a major wait list for seats,or did before PSL's.

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[quote=skinsfan69;620694]Riggins just did some more Snyder bashing. This time it's personal. [B]Riggo is going to be on [U]some sports show w/JB on Showtime[/U] and he just kills Snyder[/B]. Maybe someone can pull up the link. The article is on CBS Sports.[/quote]

i just noticed that, do you perhaps mean the longest running sports show on television? it's called inside the nfl

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When I was a kid people used to say that they were sorry all the time for things that they were caught for or were embarrassed publicly for, but they ultimately had their fingers behind their back. Does Dan Snyder think that this empty apology will fix the problems that he is responsible for?

Let's go down the list of things that he did.

1.) He hired Zorn. He said that he thought that this guy would be a great head coach. What does he do to back up the HC when the Star player spouts off in public about his benching of that player? He chastises the Head Coach and tells him that we don't do that to Portis.

2.) He hired Cerrato after he was fired by Schottenheimer. Marty must have known something because he got rid of a guy who was all for bring in name brand players who were past their production. There are some fans who want to say that these past two years were Cerrato's to be in charge. Well, that is not true. He was involved in the Gibbs years and he was there as a yes man for Snyder to give him leverage in personnel decisions.

3.) Snyder's handling of the media and his image is terrible. Snyder could have gotten out in front of this whole problem. Instead there is so much dissension in the organization that people are afraid to say anything because it can come back to haunt them. Because Snyder is such a control freak, he makes it hard to have an organization that is functional.

Snyder' apology is an empty one. Actions speak louder than words.