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[quote=Paintrain;622975]I already posted this once but [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/11/inside_the_sideline_melee.html?wprss=dcsportsbog"]D.C. Sports Bog - Inside the DeAngelo Hall sideline melee[/URL] here it is again. I hadn't seen anything resembling this level of a breakdown in an article, have you? If so, can you post it? If anyone will side AGAINST the Skins it's Steinberg and the Post and they clearly didn't.[/quote]

That's the best breakdown of the action and I agree it's probably 50/50 blame.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Smith gets a fine. He was only adding fuel to the fire.

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What is the strenght trainer grabbing Halls pads for, the Falcons clearly hate Hall. The way the team jumped on him proves it so, they just showed how low they are from top to bottom.

Im am not a Hall superfan, but come on every game played every week when an opposing player is on the sidline there are words being exchanged or something. No team ever jumps on a player like that.

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[quote=Ruhskins;622993]Hey, you're the one that's making yourself look bad.

When I saw the whole D. Hall thing, I was pissed off initially b/c I thought he had gone to the sideline to cause trouble (well initially I was pissed off more about Landry). But it wasn't all him, the ATL bench and their coaches did their part. Now you will never care about that nor any of the facts, you just have your blind opinion about the guy. So be it, but don't be upset when people call you out. Need I remind you that you were the person that bitched about Hall because (if memory serves me right) he tried to make a play and "would not just fall on the ball" after he picked off a pass.[/quote]

All this writers must be wrong on Hall's assessment, by the way on the thread "what do you expect at the Atlanta game" I posted I expect Hall to get a personal foul somehow. Guess what? Is that a coincidence?

[quote=FalconsFan;622846]MIKE SILVER, YAHOO! SPORTS:

“Is [Hall] experiencing problems with the imaginary friend who lives in his helmet? That’s my theory after he capped a ridiculous week by starting a bunch of drama on the Falcons’ sidelines in his team’s 31-17 defeat at the Georgia Dome on Sunday, then had the gall to whine that Atlanta coach Mike Smith had “put his hands on me in a harmful way.” Cue the violins. I’ve repeatedly watched the video of the incident, which began after Redskins safety LaRon Landry put a late hit on Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan on the Atlanta sideline, and I’m having a really hard time believing that Hall’s planned complaint to the NFL about Smith will be met by anything but laughter. … The opposing sideline is off-limits; even Landry had the good sense to leave after his cheap shot on Ryan. Hall made a point of coming over and getting involved, and then he acted surprised that former teammates and others wanted him gone.”

DON BANKS, SPORTS ILLUSTRATED:

“And speaking of brainless, how transparent was it of Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall to go over and mix it up on the Atlanta sideline after Washington safety LaRon Landry got flagged for a late out of bounds hit on Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan? … Hall, the ex-Falcon who left Atlanta for Oakland in 2008 with bruised feelings intact, wound up pretty much tussling with Falcons head coach Mike Smith, who’s never afraid to mix it up. And here I thought it was Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff that Hall had a grudge against, given his pointed comments of last week.”

CHRIS NEEDHAM: NBCWASHINGTON.COM

“[B]How low was yesterday’s loss? We found out that even the Falcons’ coach is tougher than the Redskins[/B]. … DeAngelo Hall, the Skins cornerback, is afraid of the Falcons’ 50-year-old silver-haired head coach, Mike Smith. Smith, Hall alleges, roughed him up on the sideline during a skirmish and said a bad word to him. A bad word!”

BARRY SVRLUGA, WASHINGTON POST

“[Hall] has a penchant for drama, and though there were more costly plays in the Redskins’ 31-17 loss to the Falcons, none better typified Washington’s utter loss of self-control than Hall’s mix-up with the Atlanta coaching staff and players.”



Seems like very few are still in denial about who Hall really is.[/quote]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;623023]All this writers must be wrong on Hall's assessment, by the way on the thread "what do you expect at the Atlanta game" I posted I expect [B]Hall to get a personal foul[/B] somehow. Guess what? Is that a coincidence?[/quote]

Dude just give up...

[quote]From [URL="http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=291108001&period=0"]ESPN's Play-by-Play[/URL]: 3rd and 3 at ATL 40 (Shotgun) M.Ryan scrambles right end ran ob at ATL 44 for 4 yards (L.Landry). PENALTY on WAS-[B]L.Landry[/B], Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at ATL 44. Penalty on WAS-[B]A.Haynesworth[/B], Unnecessary Roughness, declined.[/quote]

I think the funniest think is that I'm not absolving Hall whatsoever, because I'm sure he played his part in this scuffle. It's just that I find the ATL bench just as guilty, and Landry for causing this whole thing in the first place. I'm sure the NFL will side with you and punish just Hall.

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[quote=Ruhskins;623029]Dude just give up...[/quote]

You too cause it's gonna worse as the season progresses. Can't wait till Oakland.

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All the writers...I see 3. And for the most part, I'm willing to bet they are writing without getting both sides of the story and going with what they think happened.

There are 3 sides to every story. In the case, we have Hall's side, the Falcons' side, and the truth. Obviously Hall has his demons from the past, and obviously the writers above see who was involved and immediately link it to Hall's Past as opposed to getting all the facts before writing.

Quite frankly I imagine Hall followed up on the play in efforts to get Landry out of the melee. Ensuing actions led to either Hall or a Falcons' player talking trash, and then further melee commenced, knowing that they'd either get a rise out of Hall.

I'm not trying to discredit Hall, but I'm not going to place 100% of the blame on him either. Yeah he's a punk, but that doesn't mean that he's going to cause a strength coach to hold him against his will every single time he's on the opposite sideline either.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;623030]You too cause it's gonna worse as the season progresses. Can't wait till Oakland.[/quote]

Well you expected a personal foul and it didn't happen, so what do you have to say about that?

You better hope that Hall drop kicks someone at the Oakland game. Actually, I do too, because I'm sick of being logical with you Hall haters.

I'm sure whatever wrong or right Hall does, you'll be complaining about it.

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[quote=Ruhskins;623032]Well you expected a personal foul and it didn't happen, so what do you have to say about that?

You better hope that Hall drop kicks someone at the Oakland game. Actually, I do too, because I'm sick of being logical with you Hall haters.

I'm sure whatever wrong or right Hall does, you'll be complaining about it.[/quote]

I hope he picks on Cable. We'll be talking, till then.

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I think that you guys are way to harsh on Hall. In fact this should be locked or at least the title changed. Players get into fights. Coaches dont. Hall has done better than I thought. He is not supposed to be a run stopper. Thats what Landry is for. Deon Sanders, one of the best corners of all time, never was able to tackle anyone. At least Hall is not afraid to try. He does the best he can. As far as him giving up big pass plays he seems to me to be doing pretty good. I think if you want to complain keep it to Landry.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;623037]I hope he picks on Cable. We'll be talking, till then.[/quote]

I'm still waiting for you to admit that you were wrong about the personal foul.

Funny that you mention Cable, I'm sure Al Davis is going to want the same thing. I can see Cable pulling a Artest-like melee. LOL.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;623023]All this writers must be wrong on Hall's assessment, by the way on the thread "what do you expect at the Atlanta game" I posted I expect Hall to get a personal foul somehow. Guess what? Is that a coincidence?[/quote]

I see you conveniently avoided the article that actually breaks down the play rather than writers making commentary based on what they saw on highlight shows (which most "journalists" do these days since they can only be at one game). Care to weigh in on that article/breakdown?

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anyone hear lavar today? when he goes on thoose rants he gets me fired up, i would love to see him have some part in consulting with the team, or just be the teams official hype man, that said i read the breakdown on dcsportsbog and i just watched it a couple of times and hall was over there when the play ended and granted he probably said something, he isn't really know for being quite, it looks like the atl strength coach might have been a huge instigator in the fight and mike smith should be fined ALOT he is a hc and he should have been calming everything down instead of starting more s, and seriously tryon is the first guy to help d hall, tryon? c'mon man, and while i do hate on fat albert a lot when he showed up he pushed that one guy and the whole atl team and staff took three steps back, he is on big mother f-er he was about a fott taller than everyone else in the skirmish

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[quote=Mattyk72;622652]I think Hall might have a legit gripe about what went on there. Smith and the strength coach had no business getting involved like that.[/quote]
Indeed -- should be fines on both sides.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;622658]if you watch that video, at the 1:07 mark, the ATL coach has his hands holding DHalls jersey and he pulls DHall into the mob of Falcons players. I have no idea what was said, but that coach clearly should be fined. And it looked like the ATL head coach took an elbow shot at DHall's helmet too(1:14-1:16).[/quote]
Yep... I was ranting on and on about that

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[quote=BDBohnzie;622821]

Mike Smith's beef should have been with Landry, who got up after the hit and trotted back to the huddle. Instead, he lost his cool and took it out on the completely wrong person.[/quote]
Landry and Ryan even "made up" you see some quick pats and talking.

Mike Smith is a damn liar too.. saying he didn't know it was Hall. He could def see the back of Hall's jersey and I'm sure he knows what he looks like face to face as well. If nothing else, from watching tape on the Skins he'd recognize the number. If he didn't know it was Hall, he wouldn't have been up in his face since Hall wasn't involved.

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Hall should spend more time concentrating about things happening on the field. He should have NEVER been on that sideline. As others have said he seeks drama and feeds his own agenda above the team. Fire him.

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I dont think anything will happen to the atl coaches,were getting no respect and no calls this yr.Did the league ever say what the rule is on that fair catch ARE dropped? this game and the last game there were 2 very late 5 yrds out of bounds tackles on our guys with no call

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Although after seeing the game and the replay of the event, it appears that Mike Smith was way out of line. He should have never been involved to begin with. Wasn't it Roger Goodell who said he would hold "coaches and executives to a higher standard." I am curious to see how serious he was with that statement. Smith should be held accountable to a certain degree.

But the devils advocate in me also thinks that the incident would never have gotten that much out of hand if Hall would have stayed away from the sideline. He really had no business running in there like that.

Yes, you can argue that Hall was "watching out for his team mate", trying to pull him out of there. But at the end of the day, if anything would have happened to Landry after that hit, it would be the leagues repsonsibility, not Halls.

When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.

Keep those 2 apart, there is no fire.

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Hall was chasing down the play and ended up on the sideline, it's not like he just ran over there at some random time in the game.

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[quote=Luxorreb;623257]Hall should spend more time concentrating about things happening on the field. He should have NEVER been on that sideline. As others have said he seeks drama and feeds his own agenda above the team. Fire him.[/quote]

Really? So he shouldn't have been running towards the QB with the ball? :doh:

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[quote=Ruhskins;622914]Dude you're siding with another team's fan against your own team? Turn in your card.[/quote]

oh please. so we can't call out our own guys when they act like little bitches? i don't blame smith cause he was defending his own guy. if that happened to jc and zorn grabbed another teams player and talked some shit everyone would be on zorn's jock.

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[quote=skinsfan69;623333]oh please. so we can't call out our own guys when they act like little bitches? i don't blame smith cause he was defending his own guy. if that happened to jc and zorn grabbed another teams player and talked some shit everyone would be on zorn's jock.[/quote]

If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?

I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.

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[quote=Redskins_P;622938]Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.[/quote]
I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.

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[quote=Ruhskins;623335]If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?

I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.[/quote]

It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.

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[quote=firstdown;623344]I'm sure when they all started pushing most players thought it would be done as fast as it started. When it continued the team came to help him out and then the D line came running in to help Hall. This has nothing to do with our locker room.[/quote]

Once the incident starting getting ugly our guys went over. I agree this whole idea that our guys "didn't care" is garbage.

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[quote=Mattyk72;623347]It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.[/quote]Agreed.

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[quote=Mattyk72;623347]It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.[/quote]

Yes. D.Hall deserves some blame but Smith was way over the top of what is acceptable for coaches. Smith came close to a Woody Hayes moment.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;623313]
When Hall charged into that sideline, that was the match, Landrys hit was the kerosene.

[/quote]

you have to watch the replay and keep your eye on hall before the hit. hall was chasing down the play, running hard. he was already on the sideline before the ish hit the fan. he never ran over or onto the falcons sideline.

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Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM

[quote=SI.COM]I see how the scuffle between Atlanta and Washington started. Matt Ryan got hit a little late on the sideline, and when you see that happen to the leader of your team you start thinking all of the worst things. No other single player has a bigger part in whether you win or lose. I know how much it scares you as a player, and so you want to retaliate. I get that. It's going to happen. Coaches understand that.

[B]But you're entering a danger zone when you get involved as a coach, Mike Smith. Think about this in terms of war. When you see your general go to the line, all hands are on deck. Smith got into the fray and every single Falcon was there in a heartbeat. Fine. But what happens next time?[/B] All of a sudden, it's in the head of every one of those Atlanta players: When someone crosses our sideline or touches our quarterback late, it's on. And it can't be that simple. I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.[/quote]

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/11/09/week.9/index.html]Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com[/url]

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[quote=sandtrapjack;623409]Heres an interesting observation from Jerome Bettis off SI.COM



[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/11/09/week.9/index.html]Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com[/url][/quote]

I agree with Bettis, however I think the NFL should punish Smith. When he was asked about the situation, he flat out lied and made excuse for what happened. He should follow Bettis advice:

[quote]I don't think Smith should be punished, per se, but he needs to come out and say he went too far before his own players get the wrong idea.

Read more: [url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jerome_bettis/11/09/week.9/index.html#ixzz0WTcKVSLy]Larry Johnson can still play, but will new NFL team step up? - Jerome Bettis - SI.com[/url]
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[quote=Ruhskins;623335]If Mike Smith was "defending" Matt Ryan then why did he go after Hall? Your way of thinking is just like Goodell, hold the coaches to a different standard than you hold players. I think Zorn would know better than not to act the way Mike Smith did. Do you think Joe Gibbs would do what Mike Smith did?

I am by no means defending Hall, and I'm sure he is to be blame with what happened as well. What upsets me is that everyone, including Redskins fans, like to pretend that the ATL bench was completely innocent. For all I care, the league can fine and/or suspend Hall, but Mike Smith and the other coach that was involved in the incident should be fined and/or suspended.[/quote]

If you watch the tape Hall WALKED TOWARDS the Atl. bench talking smack with #51 AFTER Landry hit Ryan.....then the fight began. If Hall would've just done what Landry did then nothing would've happened.
I'm over it but when you're getting your ass beat and you're on a 2-6 team that can't tackle then shut up and play ball. Now Hall is talking about fighting the coach in the off season and talking about calling Goddell. Don't try and fight their team or the coach in the off season, get an INT, or knock the crap out of Michael Turner. Instead you cry like a baby w/out it's milk bottle.

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[quote=skinsfan69;623415]If you watch the tape Hall WALKED TOWARDS the Atl. bench talking smack with #51 AFTER Landry hit Ryan.....then the fight began. If Hall would've just done what Landry did then nothing would've happened.
I'm over it but when you're getting your ass beat and you're on a 2-6 team that can't tackle then shut up and play ball. Now Hall is talking about fighting the coach in the off season and talking about calling Goddell. Don't try and fight their team or the coach in the off season, get an INT, or knock the crap out of Michael Turner. Instead you cry like a baby w/out it's milk bottle.[/quote]

If Mike Smith would have acted like a coach then none of this would have happened, or D. Hall would have been solely to blame for this.

In Goodell's league, the players get heavily punished when they mess up, and if this is the case then coaches should be punished too. Hell at least Hall is talking about this, Smith is playing dumb and not owning up to his mistake.

Once again, D. Hall screwed up too, but I find it ridiculous that fans of this team are ok with Mike Smith (a coach) being aggressive and fuel up a sideline altercation, while they want D. Hall to shut up about and let his teammate get harassed by the opponent's sideline.

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[quote=Mattyk72;623347]It's baffling really how some seem to only be blaming Hall and are ok with Mike Smith as a coach who did nothing but add fuel to the fire. Amazing.[/quote]
That was my point as I watched the game. I lost all respect for Smith. Landry was wrong because he hit a player out of bounds. Even more wrong because it was a franchise QB. We got penalized for pushing him down in bounds. If Hall hadn't tried to defend Landry people would have called him a punk for leaving his teammate. The players on the Falcons that started fighting were wrong, but I understand their defense of a teammate. The coach elbowing and instigating is the worst though.
Initially, when they said two personal fouls I assumed one on Smith and one for Landry.
If Goodell doesn't fine and/or suspend Smith then he is proving himself a liar. Why should the NFLPA want to negotiate with him when he shows that he views players as a commodity coaches as above the rules?

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[quote=Ruhskins;623417]If Mike Smith would have acted like a coach then none of this would have happened, or D. Hall would have been solely to blame for this.

In Goodell's league, the players get heavily punished when they mess up, and if this is the case then coaches should be punished too. Hell at least Hall is talking about this, Smith is playing dumb and not owning up to his mistake.

Once again, D. Hall screwed up too[B], but I find it ridiculous that fans of this team are ok with Mike Smith (a coach) being aggressive and fuel up a sideline altercation, while they want D. Hall to shut up about and let his teammate get harassed by the opponent's sideline.[/quote][/B]

[B]Yep I'm 100% ok w/ what Smith did cause Hall started fighting and talking shit with one of his players. Hall is everything that's wrong with this team and Snyder should give him the ax when the season is over. Over paid pussy ass corner who doesn't want to hit anyone then says mgt should've gotten better players. How can you root for guys like him???? Again watch the tape. Andre Carter is right there too and you didn't see him getting involved with that shit. Landry is WALKING AWAY yet Hall still stayed behind being the instagator. [/B]

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skinsfan69 . . . i guess your watching a different video clip than everybody else.

d hall was not innocent but he didnt go over to the sideline to start ish, he was already there as a result of chasing down the play. if you cant atleast see that and concede that point your just being bias to serve your own personal observation.

i dont like d hall, i think he does some stupid PF things on the field that reflect poorly on the type of player i want in a skins uni and isnt that great of a corner but in this specific instance he wasnt all that culpable compared to mike smith and others.

go skins!!

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[quote=skinsfan69;623431]Yep I'm 100% ok w/ what Smith did cause Hall started fighting and talking shit with one of his players. Hall is everything that's wrong with this team and Snyder should give him the ax when the season is over. Over paid pussy ass corner who doesn't want to hit anyone then says mgt should've gotten better players. How can you root for guys like him???? Again watch the tape. Andre Carter is right there too and you didn't see him getting involved with that shit. Landry is WALKING AWAY yet Hall still stayed behind being the instagator.[/quote]

I'm sorry but the offensive line is everything what's wrong with this team. And well I'll root for him because he's in a Redskins uniform. I'm just sick of all of you people that like to point the blame at one single person. Or fans with agendas.

You don't like D. Hall, well then get on Carlos Rogers' case for not being a better corner. Is Hall overpaid? Yes, but that's on management. Does D. Hall sucks at tackling? Of course, and so does the entire team. People need to stop being so overdramatic about players like Hall.

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[quote=Ruhskins;623439]I'm sorry but the offensive line is everything what's wrong with this team. And well I'll root for him because he's in a Redskins uniform. I'm just sick of all of you people that like to point the blame at one single person. Or fans with agendas.

You don't like D. Hall, well then get on Carlos Rogers' case for not being a better corner. Is Hall overpaid? Yes, but that's on management. Does D. Hall sucks at tackling? Of course, and so does the entire team. People need to stop being so overdramatic about players like Hall.[/quote]

I don't like Hall for several reasons. He's been there 10 minutes yet he has already called out MGT that signed his sorry ass to a nice contract. Then he's called out teammates when he can't even tackle my mother. WTF??? Why say that shit to the media? Do it behind closed doors. So that shows me what kind of guy he is. Rogers AT LEAST has the courage to hit someone. When he does get beat he seems to be in position most of the time. The line is a mess but those guys just don't have the talent to play at this level. Hall does.

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[quote=skinsfan69;623415]If you watch the tape Hall WALKED TOWARDS the Atl. bench talking smack with #51 AFTER Landry hit Ryan.....then the fight began. [B]If Hall would've just done what Landry did then nothing would've happened.[/B]
I'm over it but when you're getting your ass beat and you're on a 2-6 team that can't tackle then shut up and play ball. Now Hall is talking about fighting the coach in the off season and talking about calling Goddell. Don't try and fight their team or the coach in the off season, get an INT, or knock the crap out of Michael Turner. Instead you cry like a baby w/out it's milk bottle.[/quote]

If Landry didn't hit Ryan after he was a meter out of bounds this never would've happened

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[quote=over the mountain;623436]skinsfan69 . . . i guess your watching a different video clip than everybody else.

d hall was not innocent but [B]he didnt go over to the sideline to start ish, he was already there as a result of chasing down the play.[/B] if you cant atleast see that and concede that point your just being bias to serve your own personal observation.

i dont like d hall, i think he does some stupid PF things on the field that reflect poorly on the type of player i want in a skins uni and isnt that great of a corner but in this specific instance he wasnt all that culpable compared to mike smith and others.

go skins!![/quote]

so was carter and landry yet they walked away. hall didn't.

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[quote=skinsfan69;623445]so was carter and landry yet they walked away. hall didn't.[/quote]

So how come you're not complaining about Haynesworth walking over and joining the altercation?

And you're so full of it...watch the tape again Hall got Landry out of there, that's why "Landry walked away". Hall was running towards both Landry and Ryan, and you clearly see the ATL sideline get on Landry.